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God of War: Ragnarok Rant 

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About 8 Months ago I finished God of War: Ragnarok front to back, Platinum Trophy included. The game is fun to play, but the story is a disaster.

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@KingdomKeyJT
@KingdomKeyJT 11 месяцев назад
16:20 did you just not feel like paying attention to the dialogue? They started Ragnarok because they wanted to get revenge for Brok. Kratos literally says “it’s not justice we’re fighting for, but vengeance. Every path I walk leads to vengeance” which he then decides to fight for justice in the end during Ragnarok. They had a very explicit reason to start Ragnarok and yet you act like they had none
@abovewater6918
@abovewater6918 11 месяцев назад
His point still stands. They could have gotten revenge on Odin and killed Odin without starting Ragnarok. They forced the Ragnarok narrative, there was other alternatives for vengeance
@KingdomKeyJT
@KingdomKeyJT 11 месяцев назад
@@abovewater6918 Dawg you realize that the ONLY way for them to get into Asgard without Odin's permission WAS Heimdall's horn right? 💀bro's acting like they could just sneak in without blowing the horn. It is stated multiple times that they would only be able to enter Asgard by blowing Heimdall's horn which would in turn start Ragnarok.
@TheHeymore
@TheHeymore 11 месяцев назад
Ok but why go wreck the world and risk everything for Brok? And even if I believed they would, why does Kratos act like there's no choice. Every path I walk leads to vengeance. But it's a choice he's making and a bad one at that. And the game doesn't make him suffer any consequences for that. Instead, it glorifies him for acting like his greek days self? So what exactly is the message the game is trying to say here? Make your own destiny, don't make your own destiny, you can change, you cannot change. Were the writers just very high while making this?
@KingdomKeyJT
@KingdomKeyJT 11 месяцев назад
@@TheHeymore You do realize that the story DID NOT glorify him going down the vengeance path right? During the Ragnarok event, if you were paying attention (I honestly don't know how the fuck you missed this but whatever) Atreus sees the horrors of war, and Kratos then decides that it is not vengeance they should be fighting for, but justice. Instead of having everyone attack Asgard, he called everyone over and asked them to stay out of Asgard while Kratos and Atreus went inside alone to face Odin themselves. Kratos realized that their vengeance what getting innocents killed, and the story acknowledges this as well, this is WHY Kratos pivots and instead starts to fight for justice. Did you just not pay attention at all to the story? And to answer your question about Brok, They had very little choice in the matter, Odin would have used the mask and declared war on Kratos and his group. I know it's a lot for me to expect you to remember story details from the way you describe it, but you DO realize that Odin LITERALLY says "too bad son, looks like war after all". HE WAS GONNA START A WAR SO THEY HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO START RAGNAROK. Please just pay attention next time before spouting stupid bullshit like this.
@TheHeymore
@TheHeymore 11 месяцев назад
@@KingdomKeyJT yes all good points and I will say I actually forgot about those details you pointed out (although it does hint at how forgetable it all was). However, it doesn't really matter if it's for vengeance or justice, we still do the thing Kratos was trying to avoid all this game. And the game literally spits "we will make our own destiny" at you. Furthermore, my point still stands, even if the reasons are valid, he gets pushed into doing the Ragnarok, but does not get punished, as was hinted would happen, by the completely useless mural at the end of 2018? Regarding the mask, I just hate this whole Mcguffin thing really. It's not any interesting plot element that makes us go and take action, but a stupid mask, that's just lazy. Throw in a dead Brok so we're onboard with it? Nothing in this game had any consequence. Bottomline is, game tells you people can change and you always have a choice, no matter how tough things are. And then the characters do roughly what was in the prophecy, but just somehow Kratos doesn't die?? Please explain this if I'm in the wrong or I'm misremembering, but they basically followed the prophecy right? I admit though, that you're right, the events do make more sense now that you've reminded me, even if it feels it was all patched and twisted so it fits a narrative they wanted to tell.
@ItsGoatSeason
@ItsGoatSeason 11 месяцев назад
Your sleeping on the impact of brocks death. It changed everything. Although good point about getting stabbed with a kitchen knife while in full armor.
@TheStraightestWhitest
@TheStraightestWhitest 11 месяцев назад
I thought the whole point was maturity, not being emotional manchildren anymore because that's ''toxic masculinity'' that Barlog wanted to move away from? And yet all people do in this game, is be emotional manchildren. Or in Freya's and Faye's case, emotional womanchildren.
@Manberg900
@Manberg900 11 месяцев назад
Damn although I wanted to disagree with you initially, the point about Kratos letting Odin take the mask was a good one. If anything Freya and Freyr would have gone after him along with Sindri. If Kratos wanted to protect Atreus he maybe would have taken him to the world tree. But what could have led to Ragnarok was Atreus sneaking off to help Sindri and Freya and Kratos follows
@KingdomKeyJT
@KingdomKeyJT 11 месяцев назад
Don't agree at all. The point about Kratos letting Odin take the mask was dumb as shit. Kratos knows that shortcuts to knowledge WILL exact a price, however, he also knows that specific price can cause danger to those around him and innocents as well. Giving Odin the mask would be just like putting his loved ones in danger, it would just be straight up stupid to give him the mask ESPECIALLY after Brok's death.
@KingdomKeyJT
@KingdomKeyJT 11 месяцев назад
11:51 Odin did have a plan? They got derailed when Brok started figuring him out. It was also interesting to see how he acted when his plans didn’t go as he thought they would, you can see how reckless he becomes and how angry he gets when having his plans figured out. I don’t understand how that scene is bad in any way
@abovewater6918
@abovewater6918 11 месяцев назад
Because they wrote Odin so smart at the beginning, wrote him like someone who would have a dozen back up plans in case something goes wrong. And then all of a sudden he's not the same level of intelligence when he gets figured out, and stops using his intellect. That's the problem, he would have had multiple back up plans, but they dumbed him down to move the plot forward
@KingdomKeyJT
@KingdomKeyJT 11 месяцев назад
@@abovewater6918 It's completely in character for him to lose his cool to his own rage. Odin is somebody who's plans always come to fruition, someone who never needed back up plans due to his intelligence. NOBODY has ever figured him out up to this very point, when he gets figured out, he loses it because it has NEVER happened before within his countless years of life, OF COURSE he would lose his cool and go for the hostage situation next, there was nothing else he could've done. Odin losing his cool here was IN character and if Brok figuring him out and making lose his cool sounds dumb to you, then it sounds like to me that you wanted Odin to be some emotionless robotic type character who has the answer to every little thing (which is literally what his whole character is about, wanting answers).
@TheStraightestWhitest
@TheStraightestWhitest 11 месяцев назад
It got derailed by a dwarf yelling at him that his soup is weird and Atreus shouldn't be called Loki, which is completely normal for Tyr to call him that as he has known him as Loki as much as he has known him as Atreus? Really? This is how pathetic GOWR fanboys defend their game's dogshit narrative? Odin, the All-Father, the man with nearly infinite knowledge who has lived ages before time itself existed, the man who has ravens in every realm, seven of which he made himself, got his plans derailed by an angry dwarf insulting his soup? LMFAO!
@KingdomKeyJT
@KingdomKeyJT 11 месяцев назад
@@TheStraightestWhitest Your oversimplification of that scene just shows how fucking stupid your arguments are. Truly just saying anything to just hate on the game when all you can do is oversimplify the scenes and call the game woke 💀that's literally your only reason for hating the game and it's pathetic. What I'm hearing here is that you wanted Odin to be an unbeatable mastermind who had a plan for literally EVERY outcome, even though his whole reason for existence is him trying to figure out what happens to him next. Odin got figured out due to his desperation for knowing what happens next, it was completely in character for him to act the way he did in the Brok scene. But hey, funny dwarf man make fun of soup and game bad cause woke right? 💀
@simonalvarado8451
@simonalvarado8451 11 месяцев назад
Lovely breakdown and rant. Still wanting the two spoons story, though 🙃
@yashnigam6
@yashnigam6 4 дня назад
Thank you! I felt like I was the only one who saw how disjointed the story of this game was. It felt like 10 different people, each with their own different perspectives on the characters wrote different segments of the story. So many new characters I just didn’t care for. Storylines that felt like they were trying to make a commentary on modern family dynamics. The whole storyline of Thrud being sad that Thor was an alcoholic seemed ripped from a 90s sitcom “very special episode”. Not a Norse myth.
@bullsmoothtime
@bullsmoothtime 11 месяцев назад
i think they gave what people wanted or expected so it subverted their expectations of the characters with seratonin, not gonna lie it worked on me at the time. I think the title was a mistake, cos its not like God of War wasnt gonna sell.
@mrSingh009
@mrSingh009 9 месяцев назад
I love this rant. This is exactly what I felt when I played the game lol
@msa6662
@msa6662 8 месяцев назад
19:31 wait a minute... was he referring to Nikocado Avocado? xD
@Huda88754
@Huda88754 6 месяцев назад
Funny I said the same thing when the game came out everyone was still on the high from release and got abused 😂, Odin makes dumb mistakes, decides to destroy realm towers during Ragnarok, gives Heimdall and gallahorn on a silver platter for what the moon? Skill and hati get pushed out of the Ragnarok story and become a day night cycle thing anyway lol, Odin only plan was de guise himself as tyr, Thor was meant to be a destroyer he moaned about the whole game should of been fking everyone up like the stories we were told . The first game hyped up Odin and Thor so much , the only cool thing Odin did was use that dragon thing against Freya with her entrapment spell when she was trying destroy the roots. Why did the mask react in hel? Just to get Atreus there to free the dog ? Odin should of got the mask after his reveal and upped the stakes and used it , it led to nothing, fire giant was wasted I wanted some mythical mission getting the eternal flame but it was just a cut scene, but they put 2 hours into picking fruit ..
@fury4197
@fury4197 11 месяцев назад
Bro, you literally make no sense. I didn't even bother watching your entire video because you make so many inaccurate statements in the beginning. If you overall enjoy something, that means it is good. if the general consensus says that they liked the game, that means the game is objectively good. You said you like the game but the game is very bad. What logic is that? How do you enjoy something that is bad? I didn't like the story overall TBH because the pacing was off and the characters were dummed down. But the gameplay and graphics were amazing. And this game has some great over the top moments in the story like Kratos' speech before Ragnarök. You make it sound like the story is terrible and therefore the game is terrible. The game is good but not amazing because of lack of story. It is far from bad.
@abovewater6918
@abovewater6918 11 месяцев назад
You can definitely enjoy things and know they aren't objectively good. I have guilty pleasure tv shows that I know aren't actually good shows. There are cheesy action movies from the 80s that are fun action movies that you turn your brain off and enjoy, but objectively they aren't good movies
@TheRoyalRelease
@TheRoyalRelease 10 месяцев назад
Anyone coming here saying he didnt get it or some shit does not get this exact point...a point that he lays out at the beginning before going hard on this abject failure of narrative and character.
@Sebster85
@Sebster85 11 месяцев назад
4:12 -- People get away with being mediocre because they get rewarded for their mediocrity. In a perfectly meritocratic world, the Witcher's showrunner would never work on a serious project again. However, she definitely will at some point in the future after destroying the Witcher's IP with CW-level writing.
@TheRoyalRelease
@TheRoyalRelease 10 месяцев назад
Even the cw is offended by this.
@AllHailScienceYT
@AllHailScienceYT 11 месяцев назад
Ragnarock is such a dissapointment in terms of a narrative. Thank you. I'm glad there are people who see it too.
@erikwilliams8692
@erikwilliams8692 7 месяцев назад
So based my friend
@cee_art8910
@cee_art8910 11 месяцев назад
The reason this game for me pearsonally is bad is because there are like you said allot of out of character things that happened in it and allot of off screen things which should've happen with us present and also the fact that they opted to make this series a 2 part was a shit idea You have the 2018 version of the game which established so much and built a world of curiosity example the valkyries you had this quest that had an emotional attachment to one of the npc you are with "mimir" and you hunt these valkyries and when your done you think to yourself that in the second game theyle have some quest to show how what was built up in the first game happens but noo it never does this game takes everything the first game did and says no we not doing that characters are underdeveloped it should've been a trilogy I also wanna mention ragnarok the event was just meh like you'd think for a game like God of war there'd be more epic shit happening in ragnarok not that lazy stuff we got people were high on copium with this game calling it a masterpiece for it's story
@user-bj8jw5wk1t
@user-bj8jw5wk1t 10 месяцев назад
Story was a disaster and a huge disappointment for me. But Cory wasnt the one writing this like he did the first one so it makes sense.
@casawi1986
@casawi1986 11 месяцев назад
I think two games is not enough to cover the whole Norse mythology and especially Ragnarök, the Game was rushed in terms of Narrative, I was surprised when Santa Monica studio announced that the GOWR is a wrap for the Norse Saga, we needed More of Thor/Odin, FFS we saw more of Frya than the those two, the fight with Thor was not great, it was Cinematic, even the fight with Gna was more fun, in all his years of fighting he only knows how to clap the air and threw Mjölnir ?, and let's not speak of Odin XD.
@BulldogFromHell
@BulldogFromHell 11 месяцев назад
Well the original script had two games planned. Kratos would die to Thor at the start of the second game, and the game would end with an adult Atreus pulling him out of Helheim 20+ years later to start Ragnarok. Ragnarok would then be the entire third game. We really needed that. But Eric Williams and Cory Barlog didn't wanna invest another 4-5 years into it. Fucking pathetic. Their incompetence killed the series.
@user-bj8jw5wk1t
@user-bj8jw5wk1t 10 месяцев назад
@@BulldogFromHell was this confirmed?
@BulldogFromHell
@BulldogFromHell 10 месяцев назад
@@user-bj8jw5wk1t Yes. I watched it in a podcast from the devs. LazerzZ also has that section in his critique on GOWR video.
@user-bj8jw5wk1t
@user-bj8jw5wk1t 10 месяцев назад
@@BulldogFromHell well thats a shame then. couldve been great but instead came out as mediocre.
@BulldogFromHell
@BulldogFromHell 10 месяцев назад
@@user-bj8jw5wk1t Exactly. There's rumors of a DLC. I'm praying it can redeem the game. Vidar has SOOO much potential since he's basically Kratos' parallel but even cooler. He has a literal gimmick where he's unbeatable depending purely on how angry he gets. When he's calm, most Norse gods deem him weaker than Thor. When he's enraged, he's vastly more powerful than even Odin. Basically unkillable and infinite in power and strength. But considering the writing for this game, they'll probably fuck his character up as well.
@SomeUnkindledAsh
@SomeUnkindledAsh 11 месяцев назад
I was pretty disappointed in Ragnarok, myself. I really expected them to innovate a bit more on the combat and world design. The story was just "meh" as well. The Atreus sections really killed any replay value. They were way too long, and i dint enjoy his combat. I dunno man, i just expected so much more. I think Cory Barlog's absence as director us definitely felt.
@TheGodofweak
@TheGodofweak 11 месяцев назад
This is probably your worst take yet. This comes off as purposely being obtuse to attract the contrarians. Is this just bait for ad revenue? You didn't levy a single criticism or begin to explain anything until you were 9 minutes into the video. When you do finally get to a point, you insist Odin wouldn't kill Brok with a Kitchen knife, because Brok wears armor. This could be a fine nitpick if we didn't consider Odin was a God. Gods are pretty strong, I don't know if you know this, but this franchise features gods doing some cool stuff, and they're pretty strong, even if they're skinny, like Baldur. Odin is THE god of this pantheon too. This scene where Odin kills Brok perfectly aligns with his character throughout the game: He's so sure of himself and so used to being in control at all times, that he thinks he can improv his way out of that situation, as he had been doing since we met him as Tyr. Brok figures something is up because as we've seen many times, he IS particularly clever. The next bit is just rambling, not really commenting on anything, no real points about the narrative structure, small nitpicks through. I would argue we can assume Odin is preparing for war in Asgard, as we later see that Asgard was indeed prepped for Ragnarok. Once you get to your point about why are they waging war against Odin? I don't know if you played the game, but Odin enslaves the realms, he kills for control, and now he wants the mask- an allegory for ultimate knowledge, which in Odin's hands could be the key to giving him even more power. If they didn't bring Ragnarok to Odin, Odin would have pushed for the mask as he had been doing the entire game. Ragnarok happens, but it makes complete sense if you played the game and especially if you payed attention to the lore on Odin in 2018. Odin should be brought to justice, and Kratos, Atreus, and Freya are right to wage war against a dictator who will stop at nothing to attain ultimate power. The Freyr nitpick about him not dying offscreen is dumb, why would that improve anything? Silly shit. Kratos, a war general doing a speech before waging war is apparently out of character even though we've seen him do it before in the first god of war. You're not just wrong about Kratos' characterization, but you fundamentally misunderstand him. Kratos has been very vocal and opening up more throughout the game to people but its "not in character" for him to do a speech? Its "MCU" dialogue because the game is trying to hype the player up before the portion of the game its named after happens? We have entered brain-dead mode with these arguments that don't make any points. Superman comparison to to illustrate how Kratos doing a speech is a "reach". Why did you keep this is the video lol? Wait and that's your entire basis for why the story is supposedly "bad"? I get criticisms with freyr, I understand people not liking the Loki bits, and the teen cutesy dialogue, saying Fenrir and freyr are useless despite both of them being integral to their survival, I think says everything about what you value in a narrative, and its not depth. Ragnarok by no means a perfect story, but its still excellent, and these criticisms are incredibly shallow and you lack any intelligent analysis of the characters and this video is downright embarrassing.
@editname7450
@editname7450 11 месяцев назад
Completely agree and clickbaiting 4 views bc his channel is dead
@TheStraightestWhitest
@TheStraightestWhitest 11 месяцев назад
''When you do finally get to a point, you insist Odin wouldn't kill Brok with a Kitchen knife, because Brok wears armor. This could be a fine nitpick if we didn't consider Odin was a God. Gods are pretty strong, I don't know if you know this, but this franchise features gods doing some cool stuff, and they're pretty strong, even if they're skinny, like Baldur.'' Non argument. A kitchen knife would still not penetrate godlike armor, no matter how strong the wielder. ''Odin is THE god of this pantheon too. This scene where Odin kills Brok perfectly aligns with his character throughout the game: He's so sure of himself and so used to being in control at all times, that he thinks he can improv his way out of that situation, as he had been doing since we met him as Tyr.'' What??? He literally PLANNED to become Tyr. He went into Atreus and Kratos' house to talk as though he ''accidentally'' gave away that Tyr was alive. ''Tyr's way is dead. HE is dead! Y'understand?'' That was him sowing the seed of doubt that Tyr might be alive, which he did specifically to get Kratos and Atreus to search for him, leaving breadcrumbs to make sure they'd find Odin disguised as Tyr. That was insanely intricate planning. What the fuck do you mean improv is in character? It's anti-character! ''Brok figures something is up because as we've seen many times, he IS particularly clever.'' He doesn't figure out anything. He just gets mad over his soup and him calling Atreus Loki, which for Tyr, a man who might as well have been a Giant, calling him the name the Giants gave him, isn't weird one fucking bit. It's dumb writing, and still not half as dumb as Odin losing his shit and stabbing him with a kitchen knife over it. ''The next bit is just rambling, not really commenting on anything, no real points about the narrative structure, small nitpicks through. I would argue we can assume Odin is preparing for war in Asgard, as we later see that Asgard was indeed prepped for Ragnarok.'' Odin knew you cannot prep for Ragnarok, only avoid it. So this doesn't make sense. Why was he so lax about this? Wtf was he doing while a wounded and poisoned Thor was fighting the harbingers of Ragnarok alone? I get that he doesn't care about Thor, but he DOES acknowledge Thor as a useful servant. And together, they'd have crushed Kratos and Atreus and Freya with immense ease. ''Once you get to your point about why are they waging war against Odin? I don't know if you played the game, but Odin enslaves the realms, he kills for control, and now he wants the mask- an allegory for ultimate knowledge, which in Odin's hands could be the key to giving him even more power. If they didn't bring Ragnarok to Odin, Odin would have pushed for the mask as he had been doing the entire game. Ragnarok happens, but it makes complete sense if you played the game and especially if you payed attention to the lore on Odin in 2018. Odin should be brought to justice, and Kratos, Atreus, and Freya are right to wage war against a dictator who will stop at nothing to attain ultimate power.'' Untrue. Odin only subjugates people insofar as it gets him what he wants. He's not after power. He's after knowledge. His last words were literally: ''I have to know what comes next.'' Nobody said Ragnarok shouldn't happen. The reason was just rushed and idiotic. Vengeance was no good cause. ''The Freyr nitpick about him not dying offscreen is dumb, why would that improve anything? Silly shit.'' And you criticizing him criticizing that isn't a nitpick? LOL! Pot, here's kettle. ''Kratos, a war general doing a speech before waging war is apparently out of character even though we've seen him do it before in the first god of war. You're not just wrong about Kratos' characterization, but you fundamentally misunderstand him. Kratos has been very vocal and opening up more throughout the game to people but its "not in character" for him to do a speech? Its "MCU" dialogue because the game is trying to hype the player up before the portion of the game its named after happens? We have entered brain-dead mode with these arguments that don't make any points.'' As a fan of the series since the first game, yes it was out of character. He hasn't been a leader of men in 1150+ years. It literally was just their Avengers Assemble moment. It was cringe. ''Wait and that's your entire basis for why the story is supposedly "bad"?'' And all of it is valid and does destroy the story at its fundamental core. GOWR isn't a fantastic story. It's the worst story I've ever played in a game along with Dying Light 1. The most incoherent, trashly written, horrible outcome garbage I've ever had the displeasure of slogging through. It had a SINGLE good storytelling moment, which was Kratos finally admitting he had been in his ego (highly contradicting to his character) the entire time and had been an idiot, apologizing to Atreus, who then reflects his own quote back at him: ''Do not be sorry. Be better.'' That was the only moment I felt SOMETHING in this game. It was fifty seconds of goodness in 25 hours of literally forcing myself to play so I wouldn't feel like I wasted almost 100 bucks.
@xxxs8309
@xxxs8309 11 месяцев назад
Indeed the story was mediocre and doesn't make any sense.
@Alex-oj8po
@Alex-oj8po 8 месяцев назад
The thing that bothers me the most about this game is the awful level design, the entire game is just a pretty looking corridor. None of the areas ever feel like real places. No parts of the game are enjoyable to explore. GoW 2018 obviously suffers from the same problem but they did a much better job slowly opening up the Midgard area over the course of the game. I was expecting that Ragnarok would at least try to improve this aspect but it's so much worse. Same goes for the RPG-lite progression, it's just the same with slightly more stuff, absolutely mind-numbing. The story is definitely not good but I just couldn't wait for it to end so I really didn't care about anything that was happening
@sanfordgray5699
@sanfordgray5699 8 месяцев назад
I agree. What was with that speech at the end? You're going to hype up people who are already hyped-up and gung-ho? Pointless. Waste of time. I hate that in movies, too: the whole "preaching to the congregation" trope. They're already with you. There's no need to speak. Not to mention I felt empty and depressed while I was playing this game. I didn't want to admit that before when I first started playing it. Maybe I was just unsure of how I felt because of spoilers I had already seen and I had did not feel this way about the 2018 game. I think I felt good about that one because Kratos was back after a hiatus with new fighting mechanics and a badass story, not to mention better, lifelike graphics.
@Zahrlavi
@Zahrlavi 11 месяцев назад
Slog of War/God of Bore
@youngdroz
@youngdroz 10 месяцев назад
You’re still not canceled for being anti trans?
@primarchlogarius
@primarchlogarius 11 месяцев назад
The first GoW story was amazing. Ragnarok was meh. Too much of extra stuff and the ending just breaks down. I felt even the gameplay was ok, not amazing. There were moments where the multiple enemy crowd control fell through.
@BulldogFromHell
@BulldogFromHell 11 месяцев назад
You raise an excellent point at 12:45, and it's something fanboys will never acknowledge. Kratos is in danger. He SHOULD have been in danger. The original script for when Ragnarok was planned as two games literally had him die to Thor right at the start of the sequel to GOW 2018 and be unable to escape Helheim for 20+ years until an adult Atreus came to pull him out to start Ragnarok, which would then make up the third game. How fucking amazing would that have been? You can tell that was the original plan, because what we ended up with didn't make sense. And the fanboys aren't helping. Ever since Barlog said Kratos only hit Baldur with 30% of his power the first time he punched him, fanboys have gone off the rails saying Kratos is only ever using 0,000000003% of his powers and could just blink the entire pantheon out of existence. That is a massive problem, because it means they'll never acknowledge the dogshit writing you're pointing out since they can just excuse it by saying ''Well actually Odin and Thor don't come to their house because they know Kratos would one tap them the moment he actually starts trying''. Half of the issues this game got away with are purely a result of its incessantly annoying and obnoxious fandom. They fill in every black hole sized gap of these games with their own headcanon, and I think they actually like it that way because it allows them to prop up Kratos to an insane degree since he's basically like a father to all the fatherless manchildren that worship these games. Look at how many of those ''sigma'' masculine AI advice channels have Kratos as their profile pic and use his voice. It's disturbing the way people idolize the character. And as any good psychologist would say; the second someone becomes emotionally invested in something or someone else, the danger of their ability to remain objective going out the window skyrockets to an almost certainty. And both the devs and the fandom seem obsessed with Kratos. Barlog basically turned him into a self-insert, and the fandom view him as their literal daddy. It's concerning.
@KingdomKeyJT
@KingdomKeyJT 11 месяцев назад
I don't agree with your opinion about the writing but that's not what I'm gonna talk about here. I want to talk about your view on how Barlog somehow turned Kratos into a "self-insert" Sigma. That isn't his fault if a bunch of 12 year old losers who see the word sigma and go crazy over it want to obsess over Kratos. I want you to realize that all of those 12 year old's are completely misinterpreting Kratos's character as a "sigma". Kratos LITERALLY portrays somebody who believes that welcoming in your emotions is an okay thing. A big thing about Kratos's development in this game is him LEARNING positive masculinity, not this Sigma bullshit that 12 year old's want to associate with Kratos. At the end of the game, Atreus sees the horrors of war and repeats the words "in order to win wars, we must be willing to sacrifice everything". Kratos then stops Atreus and tells him not to sacrifice who he is for anyone, he tells him to let the emotions in, these 12 year old's would never agree with his words here so they just ignore them. So my point is, don't blame it on Barlog or the writers if children on the internet want to view him as a self-insert sigma type character, blame it on the children doing it.
@BulldogFromHell
@BulldogFromHell 11 месяцев назад
@@KingdomKeyJT But that is the entire community. They viewed Kratos talking like a dumb shit in his ego about how he didn't need Draupnir because he's "killed Gods greater than him" about Heimdall before ever having met the guy as some ultra badass sigma shit too when it was no doubt intended to showcase that his pride and arrogance was going to get him and Atreus killed. But the thing is, the fandom is part of the games. If this is the kind of fandom your games attract, that's 100% the writing's fault. It's the same as every fanboy still claiming Kratos could curbstomp the likes of Freya with ease if he actually tries because they're too sexist to acknowledge that he got destroyed in the game, refused a rematch, and that the canon digital artbook literally states that Freya is his equal in every metric, meaning she's superior to him as she also has insanely powerful magic that he does not. The games were too scared to just go with the narrative you could tell they wanted to go for. They tried to play both sides, and it ended up feeling shallow. They are incredibly exposition heavy and on the nose in their storytelling, so they should've had the balls to go all the way and just make it clear that without Draupnir, Kratos loses to Heimdall, and that Freya is his superior, as are Thor and Odin 1v1 under equal circumstances. It would've tremendously helped the writing of the game because all of these plot holes Faraaz pointed out would've no longer been able to be excused by the fandom the way they're being excused now, namely by the fandom stating: "My daddy can beat them all!"
@champion1772
@champion1772 6 месяцев назад
That would have been stupid, Kratos would absolutely not lose or die to any god that would betray his character and not make any sense you sound like a weird fan fic boy wanting that story. Kratos can absolutely never lose to a god or that shits on the entire series
@MrOmegaSG1
@MrOmegaSG1 11 месяцев назад
I was not as impressed with Rag. Story was good,game around it felt rushed. Also disappointed in portrayal of Norse gods.
@TheRoyalRelease
@TheRoyalRelease 10 месяцев назад
Instant thumbs up. Only just got to ng+ because I hated the game when it came out and I still cannot begin to fathom how marvel movie this thing feels. Archetypical drivel up and down, left right and center. "Like, seriously" and "Ain't nobody got time for that" are lines that someone fucking okayed for something allegedly high fantasy??? ???
@TheHeymore
@TheHeymore 11 месяцев назад
First game, deep, real, mature story. This game? Complete shit. I never felt a reason to do Ragnarok. The game forces "we will make our own destiny" down your throat many many times. Then without any sound reason, Kratos and Atreus actually follow their prophesized destiny, but surprise, it doesn't have any real consequences, which were ominously hinted at. Like, why didn't Kratos fucking die if they are "forced" to do Ragnarok for some reason. Instead, they kill of Brok, side character, just so someone dies. Big deal. Whole ragnarok sequence forced, very marvel-ish stuff, bad dialogue. Ending - I'm sorry but, why did Atreus need to leave at the end? Discover some stupid giant mystery as a pretext for having sex with his new exotic girlfriend? Or just so we can have a very sad farewell moment? Loki goes atreus remains hahahahaha. Okay marvel. And nobody cares, game got 10s from everyone.
@user-bj8jw5wk1t
@user-bj8jw5wk1t 10 месяцев назад
End game got 10s from everyone too and that wasnt every good. People just want a spectacle. 2018 god of war is 10 times better than Ragnarok in terms of story and progression.
@notch76
@notch76 11 месяцев назад
The game lost me when Fraya told Kratos that she could kick his ass if she wanted and Kratos agreed. I shut it off and haven't played it since.
@TheStraightestWhitest
@TheStraightestWhitest 11 месяцев назад
The digital artbook also confirms it, saying she's his equal in every metric, meaning she's stronger since she has magic and Kratos does not.
@MrSingh1150
@MrSingh1150 8 месяцев назад
Can we just have original game god of war 1 style where its about God Of War!! Im tired of these last of us rip off of adult and a fucking child.
@ErgysUra
@ErgysUra 11 месяцев назад
I know it's a rant however, I truly think, you are runing something good in pursuit of perfection. I've seen too many people do this. I dont think that the world is messed up because things are acceptable, comprimising, agreeing where a line is. It does not mean it is a bad thing, but when it comes to the characters, I think people keep hyping characters in their head and having them as an absolute in their head, but when it's shown that the character has evolved or is human, well then the show/book/game sucks. I think in your analysis of Odin, you have gravely misunderstood him, in one case you claim he could easily fuck up Atreus and Ktraos with Thor by his side but at the same time leave them alone if they give him the mask. They go to war because Odin is that slimey bitch that won't leave anybody alone if they are considered a potential threat. When you say things don't fit, remember it does not fit YOUR narrative. It can be easy to get lost in your own dream narrative and don't forget, Kratos has existed for hundreds of years. People can change, especially when they have a child and are faced with 'certain' death. If you want Grunting, there are 6 games already that do that. Regarding accesbility, those features are reallllly helpful to many. I personally used some of them. I do agree Freyr could have been handled or presented a little better but it's not gonna change my life, even if he was a better character. I know it's a rant, this is just my two cents. On a sidenote, I feel like people have become so binary in enjoying things, they either LOVE it or HATE it, and I genuinly mean disgusted by something. Be it TV shows, comic books or films. You can still play a game even if the story is not that interesting Because the gameplay in this game is phenomenal, but because people have become so tribal, if it doesnt fit their tribes liking, then said game or show must be an outcast and exiled from the tribe. It's sad. It's entertainment, try to enjoy things otherwise, you what's the point. I would recommed trying to see the positive side of things instead of giving up. It's easy to get filled with anger and judgement because, shit, by the standards everyone has today, not everything released is going to satisfy everybody. Awesome game (GOWR). Fantastic gamer (Faraaz). I really love your 0 hit longplay videos. Huge fan.
@TheRoyalRelease
@TheRoyalRelease 10 месяцев назад
Ruing something in pursuit of perfection means that that thing ought not to be at all than be something this fucking terrible.
@Abyssalll
@Abyssalll 11 месяцев назад
Video game writers are generally not...good. And the result is especially bad when, like in this case, they take their writing too seriously.
@TheStraightestWhitest
@TheStraightestWhitest 11 месяцев назад
Woke of War: Trashnarok might actually be the worst game I've ever played. It's interesting to see how many people are beginning to admit its flaws now that the hype is gone.
@redz5523
@redz5523 11 месяцев назад
Disagree with you about GoW 5's story dude The story is great, it ain't perfect but it is still great and it's one of the best of all time man
@TheStraightestWhitest
@TheStraightestWhitest 11 месяцев назад
It's complete fucking dogshit. What an ungodly disaster.
@TheRoyalRelease
@TheRoyalRelease 10 месяцев назад
Ghost of Sparta was awesome, I agree, but that is not this game. This game is, unequivocally, teen schlock and mainstream drivel if you can keep something as simple as the number of games straight in your brain.
@redz5523
@redz5523 10 месяцев назад
@@TheRoyalRelease ghost of sparta's story was awesome yes but so is god of war ragnarok story too so
@muresanandrei7565
@muresanandrei7565 11 месяцев назад
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