Goldilocks Pliers? The Fluke INCP8 Combination pliers has either a feature or a bug. Which is it? 

If these are NWS then these are the same as the 3 for $30 kobalt or Irwin pliers sets

@@mumbles1justin probably...NWS makes pliers for a ton of different brands... but they make them to that company specifications they don't just make them to their own specification and having them all be exactly the same I'm sure there are slight differences from a standard patent if the company wants an exclusive set but other than that they are probably mostly all like the patent and then all these other companies are allowed to use that design and put their name on them

I Honestly dont think these are nws. I have alot of nws pliers and none of them cut or look like that.

@@IMPACTRATED I concur. My first impression was NWS but then when I started looking at knurling under the hinge/ pivot it doesn’t look like the other NWS rebrands.

Witte 31503

Thanks for the insights Brett. I would hope that companies would make effort to educate potential buyers about all the design elements and nuances in their products. Seems half of the tools have features we have to watch videos to learn about. Not that I would read the manual of my pliers anyway, but at least it would be available.

I heard they're made by NWS (or whoever that outfit is), but you might very well be right about Orbis. I also suspect they might vary a lot from individual specimen to specimen. Fluke is also starting to get tough competition in the DVOM market from Brymen out of Taiwan... who are now producing reasonably priced world class meters! Only problem is they're difficult to source under the Brymen name in the US. I've had & hard used one of their meters for a few years now; it's stellar! Colleagues have started acquiring them as well. (Most of them in these parts, including mine, are the 'BM869S' model.)

@@hogwashsentinel I'll take your work for it! :)

The Kleins are bulky, but sometimes you need a big pair of pliers. I’m an industrial electrician I don’t use my lineman’s that often (2-3 times a month). But when I need them I need them, and I’ve found no substitute for a good set of kleins.

We often use our Klien lineman's pliers as hammers and actually like the additional weight. The most common situation would be breaking out knockouts on electrical boxes/panels or tightening locknuts on EMT connectors, in combination with a flat head screwdriver. Of course, there are other ways to do this. Still, I'm also moving away from heavy lineman's pliers, but just to try it out.

Yeah, you can purchase almost the exact same model in Europe under the "Orbis" brand.

Could be but this was demonstrated to me on a pair of Snap On lineman’s and the cutting knives shattered.

When I started wiring houses back in the 90s I bought my first real tools. My Klein linesman pliers were so stiff I could barely open them one handed. An old timer (he was probably 25) told me to dunk them in mirror oil and keep working them until they loosened. So after work while drinking beer with the boss I did just that. They were my favorite pliers for years until they were stolen.

Designed for the purpose of not having a lot of debris falling in your working area, or so that you can cut a piece of wire and not lose it, especially if working aloft or one handed.

Wrong side of Germany ig 😂

Standard so as not to lose the tip/cut piece.

@@jmackinjersey1 as you can see in Doc's new video it's not remotely a standard

NWS says that it stands for "Nöthen Werkzeuge Solingen", which I'd translate as Nöthen Tools, Solingen. It was named after Willibald Nöthen who founded the company in 1973, and their HQ is in Solingen, Germany.

@@Ken-Muir Hello and thank you very much for explaining.

They were in a tool bag outside my shop. Good call. I’ll revisit them in an upcoming video.

Untrue. You *can* have both, with precision machining and good design. You hear this all the time regarding lineman but nobody can ever reconcile that statement with other pliers like needle nose that can have the same style cutter and still close the tips and have the cutters work just fine. It's a design choice not to close the tips completely. If the top gap were absolutely necessary to make the cutters close properly, you would only need the tips to just barely not touch. I'm looking at my Channellock 368s right now that have a very deliberate gap of about 60 thou and cut just fine. Channellock 317 needle nose with cutter, tips touch and it still cuts just fine. Cheapo Husky lineman's that came in a home DIY kit was super cheap, tips touch and it still cuts fine. Tsunoda RB-125 mini bent nose, tips touch and cuts just fine even with tiny cutters and a lot less leverage. I know Knipex's literature makes the "we do it like this because it's the only way to make the cutters touch" claim but it's just not true. For the price they charge if they make this claim because they seriously can't figure it out even with all the other clever things they've come up with, then I wouldn't even know what to say.

No, Witte 31503

@@hogwashsentinel Nice, thanks

However not as high quality I add

They are Orbis Will Pliers, Knipex Group. Check the catalog on their website, page 131.