You know, as someone who tried to kill herself, when I saw this scene it made me tear up a bit, because it was my favourite character and actor telling me in the cutest and still most real way possible that dying is not worth it. Everytime I'm feeling down from now on I'll come back to the scene and let Crowley remind me that I need to keep on living.
I'm glad you're here. Keep going, keep living your life the way you want. And listen to Scottish Crowley. He may be drunk and high on laudanum but he makes a lot of sense❤
@@nicolegallegos9145 Good. Word to the wise, if he's trying to tempt you, best listen to Azeraphiel, he's nice. You're very welcome, take great care of yourself xx ❤️🌹🥰
Oh I love "Crowley on drugs"; it has something so heartwarming about him drinking the poison to save the girl. At the same time, he appears so frustrated as he implores Aziraphale to convince the girl that life is worth living, after all the misery they've witnessed in their existence. He's high, probably frustrated because he sees the world's suffering (unlike Aziraphale) in its entirety, yet he still saves the girl and provides her with a good life that she would have never had without miracles. Crowley probably didn't even know for sure what the poison would do to him, yet he drank it anyway! I have so much love for this scene!
i appreciate that crowley finally realised that he and aziraphale kind of treated elspeth's life like a game up until she lost wee morag, and tried to do a little bit of good to at least let her have a better life without them in it. and he still made sure to rub it in aziraphale's face a little, so that the angel might maybe shut up about the virtues of poverty. i love this scene so dang much too.
This is actually true, the part where he grew to the size of a Big Ben really caught the rest of the cast of guard, what you see is their genuine reaction.
Okay despite everything else being perfect in this scene , what makes it even more hilarious to me is Aziraphale's reaction. Hes totally calm because this isn't his first drunken rodeo
If anyone's interested, I did some research and 90 guineas in 1820s currency is roughly equivalent to $35,000 in today's currency. So this was a HUGE donation. Even a shilling (12 pence in the UK's old money system) would have been a large donation to a beggar.
Ok! Yes, I was wondering how much that would be today. So, Elspeth really could buy a farm. Well, I hope she does so! And that she was "Properly Good" for the rest of her life. Considering what Crowley probably went through for helping her, I really hope she did.
Every time I'm feeling suicidal, I come back to this scene. It works for a few reasons. One is that Crowley makes such a compelling argument. The other is that I know I have to wait and see what happens with the rest of the story.
I’ve only ever seen a couple of thing where they let him actually be Scottish and it always throws me for a loop for a second. One of those thing was an animate show and it took me and a friend a few mins to place the voice actor; because they never let Tennant actually use his own accent
While Aziraphale is strongly dedicated to helping humanity in general, I see some instances where he really doesn't show much empathy for individual people. In this whole "minisode", it takes him a long time to really show compassion for Elspeth's suffering; for most of it, he only talks about her "sins" without considering her context and circumstances, as Crowley did. If she's to survive, what else can she do? Easy to judge someone when you're immortal with no need for worldly goods. Then with Maggie in the first episode, he did help her with rent, but it seemed like it was more for his own convenience. In S1, he really was going to kill Adam. And in the closing scene in S2E6, he doesn't seem able to empathize with Crowley's emotions or understand at all why he wouldn't want to back to heaven (having been rejected there).
I see a lot of fans forget these aspects of the character. Even ignoring the fact the series keeps showing that Heaven’s angels are indifferent and un-epathetic, Aziraphale is not a paragon of goodness he’s an unrepentant hedonist who’s first priority is always what he wants and is often oblivious to his own hypocrisy. The fact that he was carrying around that much money while preaching the virtues of poverty and trying to stop her from grave robbing speaks to the way Aziraphale and the other angels but into the idea of goodness without backing it up with action. The reason Aziraphale and Crowley work so well together is because one is Hell’s most angelic demon and the other Heaven’s most demonic angel
@@Halfbad-bf1lt I don't know that I would go that far--he's just still learning empathy. He does show kindness and empathy to some people, like Job and his children.
@@letolethe5878 it’s something they did more in the show; in the book Aziraphale is much more of a bastard for lack of a better way of phrasing it. In the book he’s always the first to suggest murdering the anti christ and he is much more put out about loosing the pleasures he likes than saving humanity. He’s been made more empathetic in the show but I think it does show him to believe more in the idea of goodness rather than how it works in reality. I think it’s to highlight the almost indoctrination that the angels seem to have with the idea of something being good because they are angels from Heaven so they can only do good, no matter the harm that is actually caused but I don’t think I explained that very well in my original comment
Aziraphale puts heavens order first automatically, there are flashes of that pesky empathy that peek through innthis episode, like when hes hugging the tumor in a jar, the finality of it really hits him. He gets lost in the "rules" but i do believe he has the ability to be empathetic, even if its a bit less so than Crowley
I'd love to know what they did to Crowley for that "quite some time" that he wasn't on earth. Presumably being punished for doing a good deed, even if off his head on laudanum!
Well, sense he wasn't replaced then, I guess he was just given a strict warning and probably was sent to work in shitty places Remember, up until then he was taking credit for all the terrible things humans did That could have been the punishment. Seeing all the bad amongst the worst of the worst
@@6Darkest6Angel6 Yeah - I recently watched a supercut of the Az&Crowley historical scenes in chronological order. And that's when I realized that the next time shown (at least that we see -- he might have popped up earlier but we haven't seen it yet) is when he starts asking for Holy Water. So I came to the exact same conclusion -- after being caught and punished for doing good deeds, he realized he was going to be in REAL danger if he kept up his friendship with Az and his quasi-rebellion against Hell. So that's when he started wanting some backup protection. It's actually quite cleverly written, how that all fits together.
This assumes anyone in hell noticed. Crowley has been doing stuff like this for millennia and neither side ever noticed any of it. And even the one or two times someone might have caught wise, he and Aziraphale always managed to cover their tracks. He benefits from Hell being overtaxed as much as Az benefits from Heaven's utter ambivalence.
@bdpickett I'm pretty sure it's meant to imply that they did notice this one, as a Particularly Nice Thing. Az asked if he was worried he'd get in trouble, Crowley said he wasn't worried at all, and then the ground swallowed him up. Why did the ground swallow him up just then if it wasn't Hell collecting him for punishment?
Thanks to Mr. Gaiman and the lovelies in this scene for basically giving out mental healthcare. It's been getting bad again, and this has genuinely, somehow, helped.
David Tennent getting to use his Scottish accent for this scene (and sing Flower of Scotland at that) was just so perfect and I wish they just let Crowley have a Scottish accent throughout the whole show
This show made me realize that David Tennant is a hilarious person. Sure he was sometimes funny in Doctor Who especially in season 4, but god damn how he acts in this show is amazing and shows much more range.
The next time Az sees Crowley after this, he asks for holy water "just in case". It's highly implied that Hell tortured Crowley for saving that girls life
I don't know how God didn't see this when Upstairs and Downstairs were both notified and reconsider Crowley's position. It begs the question if Aziraphale and Crowley got away with their hijinks throughout history because God wanted an Angel and a Demon with human hearts and sensibilities.
my personal take is that crowley was like 'oh I feel for you' and drank the laudanum *specifically* so he could be 'nice' to her and have a perfectly reasonable excuse. 'what? I did WHAT? Man... indulge in some hedonism and this happens now?'
not me vibrating with the implications of flower of scotland only having been written in 1967.. i hope roy williamson paid for whatever crowley was drinking at the time in exchange for the tune
Every time I get mentally ill (especially after the second season finale :_)) I go back and watch this moment.Why do we need a psychiatrist? There is also a wonderful Crowley and his motivating speeches!
As a person who lost friends to suicide..I really loved Crowley in this scene. He was so compassionate in a funny way to that little girl. Till this moment , I had loved Crowley but he earned my respect here. And as much as I love Crowley, I really give a hats off to David for playing and conveying such deep message so beautifully. Crowley, sweetheart, if anybody deserves salvation..its you ❤
What I love about this scene is that most likely David Tennant just being David Tennant. I'm convinced he imporvised a majority of these lines, they feel too good to be scripted Also the line "GI'EEERRR THE MONEY ANGEL" has become a vocal stim for me because I've watched this scene so many times
"Not just pretendy good, but actually properly good!" I will never get over Crowley making that distinction and making sure she knows what he means. The big bad demon daddy just couldn't sit back and let he go to hell. The big softy 😂
Aziraphale's talk about "the virtues of poverty--" were really hurtful to me. Almost ruined the humor for me, because right now I'm so poor I cannot pay my rent, and I'm being evicted, with nowhere to go. Plus powerful and rich religious people have used that kind of crap to oppress people for centuries.
@letolethe3344 Really sorry to hear you're in that tough a corner at present!! 😢 Do hope you are able to find a friend to stay with, or somewhere to go? Things are very difficult at present for us people living at the edge of solvency - I'm still hanging onto my rental so far, but it's gone up by $200 a month whilst medical disability support has not, so most weeks are a rolling budget crisis? Hate that saying "Money is the root of all evil". 😠 No, it's GREED that's the problem. Having enough money to survive on is just a vital necessity in our capitalist society, & not reliably having that means everything in life is constantly stressful, taking time and energy away from more important things like helping others and spending our finite time with friends & loved ones.
I feel your pain. I was homeless for 5yrs. Have you sought assistance? Section 8, food stamps? I don't know what steps you've taken, or if you're currently on assistance. I do know the people who should lose everything are the politicians/elites.
Crowley obviously still has some of his soul or angelic nature because I noticed he saw the cross on Gabriel's statue. Whereas Bee couldn't when Gabriel showed them the statue.
A cross between Janet from Dr Finlay's casebook (on acid) and the White Heather Club. And what about Gaiman slipping in 'Bigly' as a word used by drunk demons?
@@claireburton2701 He used a miracle to censor ANYTHING related to sex during the ball in episode 5. The sex worker was miraculously forced into discussing being a seamstress because of it.
@@roryqpotter8242 Well, he miracled the ball/meeting to be like (his idea of) a Jane Austen ball, and that concept did not have space for sex work, I imagine. That said Aziraphale is pretty ace coded in a lot of ways. I do doubt it after some mildly Thirsty Elevator Eyes in S2, though, but (a celestial version of) ace would still totally track. Angels and demons are sexless, after all, unless they really make an effort.
As much as season 2 was just meh to me, this is *hands down* the best scene of the entire show so far. Absolutely amazing acting on David's part. And I know, you guys all love the 1941 Crowley look, but honestly, his victorian outfit is my favourite one. This scene never fails to lift my mood. "Trying to kill yourself is not on" so inspiring....!
