@@DavidManningvlog Gotta say, they do look nice, but also comfy. One thing I do need to know, are the materials ethically sourced and the production sweatshop-free?
Thank you for taking the time to put HERO10 Black through the paces. We watch every review like yours from start to finish and we read every comment so we can better understand how people are using their GoPros and what they want improved. We’re committed to releasing firmware updates that will continue to improve HERO10 Black, so know that when you or your audience make recommendations- we are listening!
Hopefully you can address this overheating issue with a firmware update because its really not looking good for the hero 10. Is this issue caused by the battery?
@@FishingWithWilso it's caused by the fact that 5.3k is an insane level of processing and he explained that they are small cameras and it's hard to jam enough heat sinks in.
@@jonathannumer5415 I'd totally agree, however, it makes no sense for the newer model to overheat sooner than the previous when recording at the lower resolutions also. If this were just at 5.3k or 4k120, yeah, overheating would be understandable... but to last less at 4k60??
Hey David - we have an exciting update for you! Thanks to customer feedback, we’ve learned many HERO10 users want the ability to record longer video clips in static situations without motion or airflow to cool the camera. Many have also had questions about how to get the longest possible recording times while maximizing battery life. We’re excited to share that we’re releasing a HER010 firmware update to deliver on these requests by end of October. This update will introduce three new “Video Performance Modes” to help maximize HERO10’s performance depending on your use case: 1. Maximum Video Performance - Maximum video resolution and frame rates for the very best image quality and ultra slow motion. 2. Extended Battery - Optimal video resolutions and frame rates for maximizing recording times and extending battery life. 3. Tripod / Stationary Video - Optimized for recording long video clips at the highest resolutions and frame rates when the camera is stationary without motion or airflow to cool the camera. GPS and HyperSmooth video stabilization are turned OFF in this mode. The following is what users can expect to achieve, on average, in Tripod / Stationary Video mode recording a single continuous clip at a temperature of 77F / 25C in static situations without movement or airflow to cool the camera: 5.3K60 - 47% more runtime than previous for an average of 29 minute-long clips 5.3K30 - 11% more runtime than previous for an average of 44 minute-long clips 4K120 - 52% more runtime than previous for an average of 26 minute-long clips 4K60 - 154% more runtime than previous for an average of 63 minute-long clips 4K30 - 35% more runtime than previous for an average of 50 minute-long clips A future firmware update will enable even longer clip lengths in 5.3K30 and 4K30. And if important for your use case, 2.7K and 1080p will enable significantly longer single clip recording times in either Extended Battery or Maximum Video Performance modes. We’re also excited to share that in late November we’re releasing a new battery, named Enduro, for HERO10 and HERO9 cameras. Enduro will be available as a $24.99 spare battery upgrade and features revolutionary technology that dramatically improves your GoPro’s performance in cold temperatures (snow sports, for example) while also significantly extending recording times in moderate temperatures. At a battery temperature of 14F / -10C (note: this is the battery’s temperature, it can be even colder outside), with HERO10 Black the Enduro battery enables, on average, 56 minutes of 5.3K60 video, 50 minutes of 4K120 video, 76 minutes of 4K60 video and 115 minutes of 1080p30 video recording. Enduro also significantly increases video recording time in moderate temperatures. For example, with HERO10 Black during typical outdoor activities at a temperature of 77F / 25C, the Enduro battery enables, on average, 60 minutes of 5.3K60 video (a 28% improvement over the standard battery), 51 minutes of 4K120 video (a 40% improvement over the standard battery), 71 minutes of 4K60 video (a 13% improvement over the standard battery) and 120 minutes of 1080p30 video recording. Stay tuned for more information on the November launch of the new Enduro battery and end of October release of the updated HERO10 firmware featuring the new Performance Video Modes. And please keep your feedback and requests coming - as you can see, we’re excited to develop additional HERO10 performance enhancements based on your input!
This was actually the last thing that kept me from upgrading :)) I am not talented enough to record the perfect shorts, but I have a 512GB MicroSD to compensate.
@@kevintofts1945 hey Kevin , do yoU face the overheating problem in Gopro hero 10 after the new update version ? Please guide me I’m looking for buying the Gopro hero 10 for vlogging ,
I can't believe people can record at 4k 60fps with no issues. I just returned mine today because I cant record longer than 15 mins at 4k 60fps IN 40 mph wind strapped to my helmet.
GP1 vs GP2. Hero 9 vs Hero 10 touchscreen and performance. If you had either of these cameras, you wouldn't need to make this statement. But I bet you do have an iPhone... :: baa ::
11:39 Real world situation? 75 degrees inside a home, no heat from the sun which a go pro is made for outdoors, and a fan blowing on it constantly. No camera should overheat in that scenario.
Yeah it made no sense how he keeps acting like being out in the sun is the wrong way to use it. It is an action outdoor camera, overheating in 10 minutes is a joke
There are more comprehensive (and scientific) tests on youtube that show the overheating claims are blown way out of proportion. People love to hate gopro for some reason. I've used it in the southern US in direct sunlight and I still haven't seen it overeat.
Yes, you testes it "wrong", but you tested them all the same way so GoPro's argument is completely irrelevant, and your tests still show the accurate results.
You didn't test anything wrong. If you put all the cameras in a cool vented environment the 10 will still cook first. It has a overheating issue, full stop.
I repair GoPro’s. After watching this, I was truly impressed. The Hero 3’s and 4’s can run over one hour. Granted, they are not 4 or 5k cameras. The 7’s can yield respectable recording times, especially if the frame rates are not maxed out. The general testing criteria that I use is 1080P, 60FPS. All LED’s turned off, beep volume set to medium and screen auto off after 1 minute. Not yet digging into a 9 or 10, I’d have to say from a reliability standpoint, the 3’s were the most reliable. The 7 black runs a close 2nd place and is my favorite. It is GoPro’s flagship camera for video quality and reliability, IMHO. The 4’s are decent if you get a good one. They seemed to have the most image sensor failures. The video quality is good on all of them, if you dial in the settings properly for what you are going record. Seriously, I am not a GoPro junkie.🤪
I can't believe people can record at 4k 60fps with no issues. I just returned mine today because I cant record longer than 15 mins at 4k 60fps IN 40 mph wind strapped to my helmet. Help? I need to motovlog asap.
@@dnegel9546 right. Because his tests aren’t “real world”. I’m tired of fake RU-vidrs. That’s why I don’t have the subs and such like others, because I’m not making Micheal bane Videos, I show my mistakes and I have a life outside of the RU-vid world
I called GoPro about that. I'm a diver. They said in a case underwater filming at 2.7k or less it won't overheat but video 4k and up you can have as little as 16 minutes before overheating.
I can confirm that too. I used the hero 9 black in the dive housing at 4k60fps and in 29 degrees water, it shuts down after a long video, if you are filming the whole dive. But if I turn it on then switch to 2.7k60fps, it does not overheat at all. Probably in colder water it could last longer before shutting down. Anyway, for me it lasts long enough. I also got the Hero 10 black and look forward to try it out scubadiving. so far so good.
the go-pro would still record better under water than on a desk because the water would most likely act as a cooling system for the go-pro like for most desktops
Sorry, but EVERY GoPro I've ever owned was unreliable and would freeze and overheat. My 7 resets constantly and that affects the recording date and time. I went with a DJI Osmo Action because it's reliable.
I use my DJI osmo action in a very hot truck during offroading and traveling. so far it did not stop recording, and i'm making long clips up to over one hour. It looks like i bought the right cam, that is more than 2 years old and somehow still beats the go-pro in terms of heat and usability for long times.
I've had my fair share of action cameras over the past few years. Recently bought the DJI Action and have been super impressed with it so far. All the latest and greatest resolutions sound nice but realistically I'm still only using 1080p 60fps and Maybe 2.7k at most, so anything beyond that I don't even bother with since it uses so much memory space and takes forever to render. I just wish I had gotten the DJI long ago
This is great. I didn’t know there were overheating issues because, like you said, I rarely record for that long all at once, but it’s a good thing to be aware of. Curious if the Media Mod changes things or traps heat 🤔
Shut up and stop trying to downplay this horrible situation. You rarely record for 20 mins? 😂😂😂 ok so super overheating isn’t a problem. Just don’t use the GoPro for longer than 15 mins. Stupid af
That's why I love my osmo action it gets hot but it never shuts off and you write that screen do turn off when it gets too hot but it still keeps recording. Next time you're in Ohio look me up
Well for a 400-500$ Camera, you should expect to be able to shot a sunset without getting your camera overheated… They need to write that important notice on the Package.. Be aware this piece of technology will suffer from overheating by using it longer than 20 min. Or maybe Gopro should not release every year a new version.. what about getting this overheating thing solved and than come back into the light before selling useless crab..
I think the first part of your comment is the right move. Be more transparent about the camera's capabilities and what it's designed to do. I think if GoPro had done that, they would have received a whole lot less backlash on the whole overheating issue. But their research tells them that the vast majority of people film short clips on their GoPros. So clearly they're designing their cameras for that. That's cool and all, they just need to be more upfront👍
Let's say I'll take off the Gopro battery and run it connected to an external power battery, the heat source from the Gopro(the battery) will disappear, also the heating problem. Did someone test it already?
So happy I got to hold on buying the "Hot Pro", I almost lost faith on DJI releasing Osmo Action V2. Don´t need 5K, up to 4K and amazing features and reliability for long shooting times is what my real life scenario wants. Can´t wait for DJI releasing the kraken.
DJI action 2 is even worst LOL it lasted 10 minutes filming 4k/60FPS and 18 minutes with the screen battery , i did the test in a room with an AC and the heating limit turned off. ill do outside testing later.
I can't believe people can record at 4k 60fps with no issues. I just returned mine today because I cant record longer than 15 mins at 4k 60fps IN 40 mph wind strapped to my helmet.
So that's sort of the question of the video. How long do you need your action camera to record? GoPro says that 75% of clips are 1:10 or under and for me, I film 3-5 minute clips at the most. But for people that are looking to film for 15-20 minutes+, it sounds like they have to trade the benefits of the Hero 10 for a camera that can film longer👍
I did a heat test on the hero 10 with hypersmooth off at 4K 30fps and I got 55 minutes recording time until it cut the clip. Didn’t shut off or show overheating message just cut the clip at 55 minutes. Camera was hot . So it might be that the frame rates drain more battery than the resolution . I also think the hypersmooth also drains a lot of battery usage and forces the camera to get even hotter thus shorter recording times . Going to try another test with hypersmooth on at 4K 30,60 and 1080p 30,60.
Did you update? I’m Looking at running at 1080/30fps with 1/60 shutter into an HDMI capture card. Will be running typical Streaming setting. No hyper smooth and usb c charging connected.
So, what you're saying is this camera was purpose-built for snowboarders and skiers? I dare you see how long it can run without stopping while snowboarding. If you want to do Sun Valley, I'd ride with you as long as I can. :D
any decent airflow would do, cycling, running or simply just walking, i don't own a 10, but with my 8 i had recorded over 3 hours of continuous 4k60 footage multiple times in those conditions with 34+ degrees celsius temps.
It shows me that the hero 10 has issues. That's not surprising though knowing GoPros past history. I do not believe the price justifies this camera with the faults that it currently has. It should be selling around $299.00. But, GoPro has always been overpriced..
This is bad. What good is it worth if it doesn't work properly. I actually was a click away until I see the first overheat review. Good thing I stuck with my DJI
Yeah it was corny to ask so many times. If the content is good, people watch it to the very end. I don't think I've watched bad content to the end just because it was said in the video LOL.
@@MrCruz_TEDM I already have the DJI Osmo. The difference is that Osmo has a built in fan on the camera. You'd think GoPro would have learned from DJI.
Not going to sugar coat it. These are "Action Cameras". They're meant to be used in outdoor conditions, cold and hot, for extended periods of time. If they can't do that then what exactly are they good for? Both my 8 and 9 would crap out in the heat of summer and cold of winter. I ditched my GoPro Joke 8 and 9 for the DJI which just plain works. Do I lose a bit of video quality? Sure. But that beats no video at all when I'm riding trails or snowboarding for hours on end. YMMV
Great video!!!! If someone is looking for an ACTION camera to record for 20 mins to 2 hours straight indoors sitting on table they should buy a.......CAMCORDER. I used a H9 and H10 all day walking and biking around Charleston, SC in 85 degree heat and it never over heated. Now, I did burn through a few batteries. I have yet to see a test in normal use that GoPro made the camera for. Go biking, running, skiing, surfing, mountain climbing, driving with it mounted out side of you car - then tell me it overheats in 20 mins.
How many batteries do you usually run through ? I bought my GoPro to record live sets that usually last about an hour . There’s plenty of videos on RU-vid of people using gopros to record live concerts I’ve even seen one be up to two hours long don’t know how he did it. I did a test at 4K 30fps hypersmooth off and got 55 minutes . Wasn’t excited about it but it would do the job . I’m assuming 2.7k or 1080p 30fps would last a bit longer
@@mysterydpt4663 I am getting about an hour to an hour and half on average of recording. I shoot mostly in 2.7/60 FPS recording a little bit of this and little bit of that. I don't turn them off in between recording. When riding the rental bikes around town this weekend, I recorded some, rode, recorded some more for example and got about an hour on each battery. The one with Media Mod and Rode external mic got about 45 mins but its also powering the mic too. I keep about 6 batteries on me when I travel. Just to make sure.
Completely agree. If people argue about video length, then a bigger camera will suit their purpose, heck even their phone will do. But a GoPro is made to capture where no phone or big camera can go. Not do a 2 hour video on one sitting.
Okay, that's cool but how does it do in a real-world situation like: 90+ degrees with some wind? Simulating outside hot temperatures. That's what I'm worried about.
I'm highly skeptical of GoPro's claim that "75% of all GoPro clips ever recorded, are under 1:10". Whether you're mountain biking, scuba diving, surfing, or skiing/snowboarding, no one is going to be stopping their camera every minute, that's absolutely absurd. To me that just demonstrates how out of touch GoPro is with their users, to think that they only shoot 1-2 minute clips, and I'd be curious to hear where they're getting that data from. Personally I'd say 90% of my videos are over 5 minutes.
Can you imagine we are talking about a Laptop/pc for a moment that when used to do heavy work like video editing encoding, or a demanding game and it shuts off after 20mins~ due to overheating without warning? But nooo say the Company and some fans to you about the Laptop/pc, 75%+ of the users don't use the Laptop/PC like that and they just use it to browse the internet and do some casual games. they don't do 20mins+ heavy work on the pc so the overheating is not an issue you all doing it wrong! But the company sells and markets it as a video editing and/or gaming pc, Would you defend the company that sells this pc? That's what basically happens to the GoPro 10, and yes they advertise/sell it as a 5.3k60 camera or 4k/60 for that matter, but instead, people are making up silly stuff about why it's Acceptable for it to overheat. It's not acceptable to overheat at room temperature regardless of GoPro's response to we are "Testing" it wrong. The latest GoPros are the only action cams in the higher-end segment that have this problem. as demonstrated in this video. We are not talking about a cheap product here GoPro is meant to be a top-of-the-line expensive product. if this was some cheap product yeah I would say you get what you pay for.
But it still doesn’t change the fact that in the same situation, at the same resolution and frame rate, the OLDER versions have better heat dissipation (or at least it doesn’t shut off for much longer). 4K60 in your own test Hero 8 = 30:00 whereas Hero 10 = 16:56. I don’t understand why this is.
@@TheVoiceofReason4ya shouldn't that be the other way around?! ..... ah we have a new processor, its so much better cos it heats up even quicker.......!! 🤣🤣🤣👍
The biggest issue that people were hoping would be fixed was the overheating issue. I guess according to you its ok if you only use the camera for short clips only. That's like buying a Ferrari but you can only drive it up to 90 Mph before it overheats ? Nothing has changed I just don't understand the logic of GOPRO ?
“You’re doing it wrong,” is GoPro’s response. I was expecting to be able to set them up around a soccer goal. I set the GoPro 9 on a tripod (not on a flat surface) 4K60P with Hypersmooth off. 60fps for sports - in the sun. It shuts down at about 15 minutes running so hot the battery is probably permanently degraded a little. I found that I could keep it running if I drop the resolution to 2.7K60P without a battery inside to allow for more airflow. During an indoor (72 F) test running at 4K60P my FLIR camera showed theGoPro 9 at 130 degrees, but I’m sure it got hotter by the time it shutdown. I’ve searched for camera cooling solutions such as sunshades and fans with no success yet. I thought about connecting a small cordless blower to a vacuum hose and zip tying that hose to the tripod. Then I just stopped myself from going down the rabbit hole. More expense, carrying more stuff, and then drowning out any sound of the game with fan and wind noise.
Stop making excuses for GoPro. In a controlled environment, you were able to prove that Insta360 and DJI cameras have more efficient heat management. If you gave those two cameras the same 75 degrees with fan blowing at them, then I360 and DJI won't fail at all while GoPro 10 would still overheat and crash.
Some people take long timelapses, like whole night or 24h timelapses. There it is on mount yes but still not moving and some like taking timelapses inside where air is not moving that much. Though I think that timelapse creates less heat than proper 60fps 4k video, but it has to be able to run whole night or 24h without over heating imo 👀 would love if someone could test the timelapse heating. Also having an powerbank connected, would that cause more heat 🤔
I would think it would create less heat with a powerbank with a 100% charged battery. It will pull its power from the power bank rather than the battery, because its connected to usb c cable. This will reduce the amount of heat going through the battery in turn reducing unit temp. That's just my thought on it. I am sure people will roast me if I misspelled something or gave wrong information.
You're saying because of the higher resolution on the Gopro, versus the bit lower resolution on the other cameras, that it's not fair. I beg to differ with you. I own a video company. I bought three hero 10's because it has 5.3 resolution and allows for better post zooms. GoPro sold me the camera with the concept that it would work without creating its own problems to the point of not function. GoPro has failed to live up to what it advertises on what the camera can do, or should do. I have had nothing but issues with my hero 10's starting with it shutting off within three minutes telling me the battery has been depleted when it hasn't, not even close. The second thing is, if it runs long enough, it gets really really hot and the video playback frame starts to turn on its axis. This is totally unacceptable and GoPro told me to just reinstall the firmware then stated this is because I dropped it, and nothing is further from the truth. The third thing is, when I plug in a power cord, the Hero 10 says there is not enough power. However, if I put a battery in it and plug a power cord to it and then pull the battery out, everything is fine, that is until it overheats and shuts off again.What pisses me off the most is, the GoPro people know this is a problem with their GoPro's and yet they question me as if I had done something wrong to the camera. I have had every single GoPro X3 of each model that they've made, and I will now give DJI action three a try.
I use my Hero 7 a lot for long recordings (like an electric guitarist angle during an entire concert) and it does fine even past the one hour mark. Just battery capacity limited. But seeing this heating issue in a much NEWER model is unfortunate. Despite what those typical recording conditions are, the older models were put in the same condition as well and the Hero 8 lasted twice as long as the 10. I was really hoping to upgrade mainly because of the improvement in reliability and responsiveness but this makes me contemplate more. Glad I didn’t purchase one right away.
this is interesting to me because i have had the complete opposite experience. Hero 7, but multiple clips at around a minute each. outside. camera always freezes up, then shuts down. i can take the battery out and put it back in, but that only fixes the problem for an extra clip or 2.
It totally depends on the use case. Mine even froze regularly in cold weather after 20-30 minutes 4k (wifi turned on), with 2.7k and everything off it works but that’s unpractical.
THIS IS NOT what I'm hearing on Amazon. ALOT of people are complaining and saying its crap. Go look how many stars they are giving it on Amazon. And they are not testing they are just using it.
Great video! I'm sure my case is a small niche... but still... in the fishing youtube scene, we use gopro cameras all the time, we keep them running for long periods of time (many times until the battery runs out), since you are trying to record a fish biting and you can't predict when that will happen, so we just keep the cameras rolling... So in the summer, here in latin america I run into overheating all the time while fishing in the sun with temps over 100 °F. Currently i own three gopro hero 8, didn't get the 9 becouse reviews say it overheated easier than the 8. I usually record at 2.7k 60fps (would love to see a test with those settings). I was hoping the hero 10 with the new processor would overheat less... but it seems not (or maybe the results will be different on lower resolutions, maybe the faster processor doesn't get that much load at 2.7k 60fps and that means lesser heat output... either way, great video man.
Very similar here. I hunt and film everything. I use POV's in the decoys or on a hunter in stand, looping 20 minutes for hours on end with a large battery plugged into the USB port. GoPros ALWAYS overheat on me, even in cold weather. DJI and Insta do not ever overheat even when I hunt in the Texas heat. I refuse to buy anything GoPro anymore.
Jorge, according to GoPro you are not using the camera in a “real world” setting. You should be using it in the same manner that they tested it. How dare you take a camera and use it out in the field to record in a way that did not match precisely how they tested it. Also, you should have purchased a fan and a VERY long extension cord to blow air around the GoPro. (David, that was NOT a dig at you.). Memo to Jorge…please be careful of dragging the extension cord in the water while in use. Now I am sure, or at least hope everyone sees the tongue-in-cheek tone of my comment, BUT it does demonstrate something. Companies today create a product that they want you to buy, so they market the heck out of it, show you all these cool maneuvers, and show you all the really cool things that you can do with it in “the real world” of their advertisement. Then you buy the item and use it in the “actual real world” and issues arise. You bring it to their attention, and they tell you…you aren’t doing it right as you aren’t using the right “real world” in your daily life. So in my opinion here is the thing. There is an issue. GoPro does not want to deal with it. GoPro wants to just blame you and not their product. AND, they want you to keep buying their products…even though you use them wrong in their eyes…which kind of conflicts with their marketing that got you to buy the product in the first place. As long as we keep buying and letting them get away with it, they will keep running with it and not addressing their issues. I have two GoPro 7 models. The last models that I will buy because I got tired of being told that I am using the device wrong…when I was actually trying to do everyday kinds of activities. Not going to continue to give a company my money and then be told I am wrong when I demonstrate an issue that is evident when they just don’t want to deal with a legitimate issue. If you want to buy it and give your money to a company like that…that is your choice. I choose not to.
@@dougzauha so if you buy a Ford Mustang you are going to blame Ford that it can't drive over rocks or through the mud because that's not how you want to use it? Ford going to tell you to buy a 4x4 truck not let us fix the Mustang.
im with you there, gopro has disappointed me, i live in las vegas, and fish lake mead..it gets up to 117 degree here at times...my gopros will overheat after 5 minutes here, and im shooting at 1080p mounted on my chest....i purposely dont shoot any higher because its not going to be worth it, gopro will over heat...ive shut most of the hypersmooth and all the other settings that i know will drain or mess with battery...and yes us as fisherman, need cameras to run constantly for hours, we cant choose when we will get a fish to bite, so recording just for a few minutes is NOT an option, we need them running constantly just to be able to get that bite on camera
I use Gopro camera or long MTB video, the Hero 10 is unusable for me, until they fix it (not turning everything in the lowest setting) I'll stick with the 9
GoPro are good at Sales and Marketing..Just need teh product to perform.. If its designed for short bursts of video then they should say where best to use it.. By not saying it over heats if used for longer periods they have put doubts on the validity of the product.
GoPro can say what ever they want, but the other cameras in the exact same situation - standing flat on a desk - did much better. And the DJI is a 2 years old model. Also, action cameras are used by many car RU-vidrs. On those situations, the camera has to stand inside of a car, most of the times, with a very hot interior, with direct sunlight… GoPro is not my choice for an action camera.
Totally agree. A 2-3 year Osmo Action with the common denominator settings still beats the GP10 by a mile. Action cameras are notorious for getting hot. But the Osmo is relatively smaller than the GP10 yet still better in handling the heat.
DJI IS A BEAST. - TEXAS HEAT CAN'T EVEN STOP IT! Dji is all i use and wont go back anytime soon. Might even buy a few more just for more angles! Literally!
It's true that Osmo Action lacks the best qualities the GP10 have but at the end of the day, I'd rather have a camera that I can rely on. Imagine capturing a once in a lifetime situation, then your GP10 dies on you in the middle of shooting. Imagine missing the money shot past 20mins of filming. Completely unacceptable for that price. It's like they know how to do it, but won't because they'd rather focus on pixels and stabilization. What good are those if you miss the shot of a lifetime because it decided to give up on you. Bottomline, I'd rather have piece of mind than extra megapixels that ain't noticeable anyways.
My Hero9 also overheated at the test bench like hell. However: - In reality indeed I never shoot that long - mostly 5-10min clips with a lot of air flow - Firmware updates seemed to have tackled the issue quite a lot - it got better with the first 2 updates - Indeed those metal mounting flaps on the bottom get hot first, so I bouth myself some aluminum mounts to use with regular tripods, since aluminum transmits heat really well - and boom, no more heat issues whatsoever. So GoPro is quite right in their usage analysis and poroduct design - if you use it like it's intended to be used you'll hardly have overheating issues whatsoever. Worst comes worse, put it on an all-metal tripod (preferably aluminium) and it will stay cool enough even in stall or sun lit environments.
nah, I use mine on all metal tripods and it doesn't help. Even with the updates and such, it hasn't helped. I've lost 4 batteries in less than 2 weeks. 1080@30fps, batteries got so hot, I had to pull them out with pliers and now to spend the expensive gas to properly dispose of them
Ahh the whole "testing it wrong" line. Remember when Apple said "you're holding it wrong"? When companies say that they actually mean "we can't admit we got it wrong"
Yeah, hearing Gopro's official response made me lose faith that they're going to address this issue. I think they're now only focused on satisfying the 75% of their customers who they say never record for more than a few minutes. But they're going to end up losing a lot of lifetime customers who used their action cameras in professional settings, and anyone who needs to record for more than 10 minutes.
I honestly don't know what people are expecting. Even top tier mirrorless cameras overheat at high resolution/frame rates... We just aren't there in terms of managing both size and processing power. We can either make camera bulkier with better cooling or try to balance a typical use case and utility. If you need to run video reliably for hours straight, then film at 1080. That doesn't just apply to the gopro. Some of the shit people film does NOT need to be at 4K. Just because you CAN film at 4K+, doesn't mean you should or need to. Is this disappointing? Yes, but GoPro is right... This is an ACTION CAM, not a 4 figure professional piece of equipment. It's optimized for action shots... It's not a full-time dash cam, it's not a security camera, it's not meant to film a 3 hour documentary... It's for action clips. The fact that it IS so flexible is a bonus. The settings are actually a good callout... You're not comparing apples to apples when you have enhanced hypersmooth, horizon leveling, higher frame rates etc... Simple adjustments like hypersmooth off in a fixed position makes total sense (although maybe it would be nice to have levels to create equivalency to the 9). TLDR, cameras are tools. Even $7K rigs aren't the best at everything. You select the right tool for what you need and move on with your life.
@@timsytanker it's like comparing a Toyota to a Audi... You've completely missed the point. We can all tell you're team DJI... the QUALITY and SETTINGS are not comparable.
@@EverythingIsPhotogenic it’s like comparing an Audi that breaks down every time after using not even half a tank of fuel to a Toyota that just keeps going and going…. Only a fool would stick with the Audi because he was obsessed with the shiny buttons..,
@@timsytanker 🤣 ok honey... Lodging insults over a camera??? Get over yourself. You've missed the ENTIRE point of my comment. It's the right tool for the right job. If you need longer video with a sacrifice in quality, the DJI is the right choice. If you want the best available video quality and features available in action cameras for clips of typical duration, go GoPro. That simple. I didn't call people "fools" for making a different choice, I made an objective statement that lionizing DJI as superior to GoPro because it doesn't overheat when it's a lower quality output and processor is disingenuous. It's that type of bad faith discourse that makes someone a "fool"
@@EverythingIsPhotogenic there are many people who will set the camera recording and leave it running, editing later to produce short clips so the ‘only use it for a few minutes because it will over heat’ is a big cop out. Only Audi fan Bois would buy a car that forces you to stop every 20 mins to cool down for a bit. In case you haven’t noticed, it’s 2021, why can’t we have a camera that’s actually capable of high frame rates and doesn’t shut down? It could be excusable on a cheap Chinese Amazon rip off but on a top of the range camera? It’s a poor design, nothing more, nothing less. I was going to buy one but not now, the new DJI camera doesn’t appeal to me so I’m going to have to look elsewhere. I was looking for something better than the DJI Action - mine has the fogging issue now and again but this Gopro isn’t it. I mount cameras on a canoe or kayak and just let them run, I don’t need the added hassle of ‘cool down time’ or dragging a fan along with me as well as a generator to power it…
I suspect that's why the DJI cams force the screens to shut down. They probably generate a lot of heat and they've chosen to sacrifice that feature to keep recording while Go Pro chose to shut down the camera instead.
@@DanJen, LCD screens don’t generate much heat at all. They get shut down in hot conditions to *protect* them from the heat, and to reduce draw on the battery, which becomes significantly less efficient in hot conditions as well.
The battery door is now plastic on the hero 10, so if you change it for the metal door on the hero 9 onto the 10, would that make a difference since metal is a better conductor of heat? Wouldn’t make a huge difference but something worth trying
Amazing explanation, thank you. Now I know it's not going to be an issue for me as I'm going to shoot mostly in 24 frames with ND filters, as I want to have cinematic feel and only fill in with slow motion, so this helped me clear all possible worries, now I know Hero 10 is my weapon of choice over 9, as lagging would be an issue, but overheating will not be
If you get 10 minutes at 4K30, then doubling the framerate requires the camera to do double as much work since it's double the number of frames. If you raise the resolution so that the total number of pixels is double then it would be the same effect as doubling the framerate. "It seems like framerate is the key factor." No, it's just that doubling framerate is as hard on everything as doubling the resolution.
I have my gopro on mounts, with airflow and it still overheats. In real world situations, it overheats usually at the worst time and then you have to wait for it to cool down before you use it again.
This response is typical of my experience with GoPro as well. If there's ever a problem with their camera, it's YOUR FAULT. That's what they've said to me every time I called their tech support. My response, today, was to put the money back in my pocket I had pulled out to buy a Hero 10 and buy a DJI Osmo Action.
The twist you're waiting for is that it takes 2X longer to overheat and shut down if there's airflow (e.g. outside). Hero10 is still worse than Hero9 in this regard. Saved you 15 minutes 👍🏼
Stuff like this - where people make rushed claims - reminds me of when the first Canon C300 came out - it was 1080 - had 8bit and everyone claimed it was dead on arrival. But then filmmakers (I’ve shot many things with Canon cinema cameras now) and especially doc filmmakers got it in their hands the image quality was stunning. Specs, and especially in studio tests are always different than actual real world use. Great video man - glad GoPro clarified.
This just sounds like a GoPro publicity video. Insta360 One R is a 2 year old (almost) camera with similar specs minus the 5.3K, and does a ton better still in terms of longer usage where you can use it for much longer on the same charge
I love how instead of testing it outside in real conditions, you tested it in 75° indoor conditions with a fan blowing on it. Your test was far from real world. Your test was in indoor conditions and lacked real world factors.
The indoor test with a fan was actually an excellent example of controlling variables, as he had data in those exact temperature and humidity conditions only minus the fan. My "real world" conditions in -40 below are going to be quite different than someone in a tropical climate, and as such is a poor metric to run a test. All this to say that it has some obvious issues when recording over long periods when compared to other action cameras. Is this a real issue? Depends on the use case.
Well if you are using a GoPro you need to be outside in bright sun. Even if you are walking around on the beach, desert, hiking etc. Indoors the light is crap and the GoPro does not look great
Thanks for this! Never had overheating issues using my Insta360 OneR and was thinking about trying a GoPro Hero 10 as a second camera… guess not! I film surfski runs (surfing with kayaks) so I have to let the camera run for 1 hour at a time, since it’s out of reach, then grab highlights in post.
I still use my hero 6 with reelsteady and none of the newer ones seem to be much better. I'm excited to see what the Osmo Action 2 will bring to the table (usable 480fps?)
I use my go pro for fliming my trackdays and races. Gopro 10 attach to my helmet in my car which has no airflow no A/C and I do not trust it at all. Did 4K test run in a car with A/C on low and mine failed. Over heating a side, battery couldn't keep up the whole race session so I have to go back to my old Hero7black. If I knew this I wouldn't buy 10 in the first place. Like who would have thought Gopro10 does not suit for GoPro kind of activity?
Does it get super hot in the car? I’ve been rocking mine at 4K 60fps a ton lately and haven’t had it overheat with the new firmware. I’m not in a hot car though, so maybe that’s the difference?
@@DavidManningvlog Problem is that during the races it will be 35-37 Celsius and it is 30 mins long session. I need footage from start to finish and Hero7Black 1080p 60fps works for me. Have not try 10 but I am super worry. GoPro10 4K 60 fps for normal daily commute with A/C on 25 Celsius medium fan speed has been no problem for me too (it gets very hot though) but when I try 27-28C with low fan speed my GoPro10 failed.
Thank you for all the effort you put into testing. I've just purchased the hero 10 and it's my first GOPRO period, you've given me peace of mind about my purchase.
I got a Osmo action while I waited for the HERO10 and for now I am not jumping. I use it on my bike with a chin mount and having a massive camera stuck there with a massive mic dongle just put more strain on my neck. On the EUC the front screen of the Osmo is super helpfull for framing and its a small size. Also the mic adapter is super small and cheap to replace if needed. I am happy with my setup. I only miss the high efficiency video format on the Osmo as the files are massive. With massive file come the need for a very expensive laptop or desktop to edit them without super render times. I speak to so many people that think they need to shoot at 5K or even 4K60 and when they get home to edit the footage there standard laptops or desktops makes the experience super bad. Just some thoughts
Thank you for this man. I'm going to upgrade from GoPro Hero 6 to 10. You sir, helped me make that decision. It totally depends on how you're going to use it. I'm not pretty much concern about it overheating on a table. So yeah! Easy purchase.
Air flow definitely makes a huggggge difference. I recorded for well over an hour non stop with hypersmooth (not boost though I think) at 4k60 on my road bike on a pretty warm day with my Hero 9
I run the Hero9 for hours at a time on my SxS and it's never shuts down due to heat (ran out of storage a couple times). Just got a Hero 10 and I will test it soon - but yeah airflow makes the difference.
I can't believe people can record at 4k 60fps with no issues. I just returned mine today because I cant record longer than 15 mins at 4k 60fps IN 40 mph wind strapped to my helmet.
Glad I watched through the end. Was thinking of finally getting one for mountain biking, but 20mins is not very long to record a ride. Looks like having it properly mounted and flying down trails should give plenty of recording time
That's why I always ignore the "overheating" issue with these because it's a non-issue in their intended use. The bigger problems are lousy battery life and random freezing/shutdown.
My Hero 10s overheat in direct sunlight while fishing and recording on LOOP regularly while fishing when there is little airflow. I need to run mine constantly to not miss the good stuff. I use 4k30 for most of my shooting. I love the camera but have to work this out. I'm going to try to turning off Hyper smooth and am adding an aluminum battery door with a heat sync on the outside to try to help. Thanks for the work on this! I KNOW what it took to get all that data brother. :-)
An interesting angle might be that the people who WOULD use a GoPro for longer than 20 minutes at a time are usually vloggers. And a vlogger would naturally put the GoPro into a case, such as the Media Mod (or a case from Ulanzi or SmallRig along with the GoPro Mic Adapter.) And any type of case would naturally keep in more heat and restrict air flow. So, I'm sure it's true that the vast majority of people shoot very short clips, have the GoPro on a mount, and are walking around, which creates air flow. So, for them, overheating wouldn't be an issue at all. And I think they can safely ignore all the testing that shows overheating. It would never affect them. But a vlogger is an entirely different creature, one who routinely runs a GoPro for MUCH longer than 20 minutes at a time, AND always has the GoPro inside a cage with accessories mounted. For that person, the tendency of a GoPro to overheat could very well be a concern. I don't have a Hero 10, but my Hero 9 shooting at 4K, WILL overheat and shut down even when mounted on a scooter and moving at 50 km/hour. And I think that is because it is inside a cage with a microphone and a Mic Adapter attached, which reduces heat dissipation and airflow. Just a thought....
to GoPro: testing wrong? My GoPro 9 goes on a pole behind me, no battery and connected to an external battery to run in 1080 30fps with horizon leveling when kayak fishing. Can't use the media mod to get better audio... Anything over 87 degrees out, over heats... An "action" camera that only gets small clips isn't much of an action camera. All I want to do is share my love of fishing with those who want to learn.