The biggest problem with being a forklift operator is not that we don't want to fallow each and every safety rule available. The problem is employers assuming we can follow them all while running you on as thin a line as possible. You can be the world's most perfect driver but over time if you keep making the road you gotta take more difficult them humanly possible then the safety ends up flying out the door a bit just so you can keep your job without being hastled by the employer for not meeting your quota. Fact is most employers want as much profit as they can squeeze with as little manpower as possible because they see more manpower as money wasted.
This true.However safety should always be first priority and simple things such as using your seat belt, looking when backing, driving with your forks as low as possible and driving in reverse with a load do not take any extra time and should always be on the drivers mind and applied when ever they get onto their P.I.T. Shortcuts such as speeding, not fully stopping at stop signs, airplaning ,distracted driving, using your horn, etc, come in to play with what you are saying, however working for a company that demands safety at all times makes for good habits at future jobs. If your boss notices dangerous habits you will be called on that too.Especially when it comes to accidents or near misses.Any company worth their salt will enforce safety, for their employees and protection of their product.Any driver worth their salt should be able to be fast and be safe.
Okay as a someone with a few years of experience driving reach, cb, bendi, and all sorts of trucks and attachments. I would say he can drive a counter balance, and he is fairly quick, but my biggest issue is right at the beginning of the vid, as he is speeding down the warehouse, not looking ahead for seconds, glance ahead, then looking away again. He does the same thing later reading the pick list speeding down the warehouse. Them gas trucks are quick, I've driven them... He pulls a bit of a dangerous joke on his reversing mate at 5:45... them are the main issues, I am surprised no one mentioned them...
Yup, immediately he shows that he drives dangerously. He could've easily killed someone stepping out from behind one of the rows. If I was a foreman I woulda sent him home and gave him a written warning. There's a poster in the main office in the mill I work at and it shows a tank in one photo and a forklift in the other. The caption says "These can kill you instantly. One is a Tank."
I was 20 seconds into this video and it's the first thing i noticed. I'm not certified (yet) but it was my first thought. Completely agree it's an accident waiting to happen.
Driver is only as good as the company he works for and the people he works with. If the company does not police driving regulations or people do not pull him up about his driving behaviour, this is the result.
@@da1uheardabt u really jus a hater... Lol and when u driven a lift u don't gotta keep looking it call glance n keep it moving , looks like he the only one there
The same equipment i've been using here in phillipines linde 8tonner,, and i'm working in plant cement.. how i wish to work there in your company, i am filipino
Here you never technically get tested, a forklift certificate is issued by your employer and it's their responsibility that you have received proper training.
Effen Bamm In the uk it's not law to have a certificate to operate a forklift, you can get permission to drive one from your employer but to not be tested now would be rare, as insurance company's insist on you having a certification What people for get is if you injure someone or god forbid worse you are personally liable, I drive a 5.5 tone forklift which is about twice the size as the one in the video , I when pushed you do rush about to be honest But this guy is bad to hands on the wheel little or no observation, jumping out of the truck with hand brake not applied the list is endless
@@Badhat66 Pretty much the same here except I've never seen a test, I agree that in this video there's severe problems with not looking before going, which is sooner or later gonna lead to an accident.
Simon Nyman Yes you do get tested here in the uk the instructor will come to your place of work or you will visit there's when completed, you get a renewed certificate,
So funny seeing all the comments about no seat belt, doesn't look where he is going, fast driving etc. This is how it goes where I work aswell. Never had 1 accident in over +25 years. You just need to have a feel for it.
It comes down to knowing your workplace, but a few of these moments it would have been good to check before reversing. But again, if it gets done without an accident, who cares :)
Kane Kans If your implication is I work in a office you could not be further from the truth , num nuts working in a quarry driving a 20 tone forktruck and having driven driffernt trucks fron bendi reach manups , counterbalance for 30 years tell me this guy is not has good has he thinks ,
First driving then watching to late. He knows his mechanics of his forklift very well but safety maybe not. He has a lot of stress there also so don't blame that guy
Tom Jacobs :"im always scares to shit driving a forklift in busy areas. it was fine when i was a mechanic but in a factory or busy warehouse is scary." I agree, it is not the same as driving a
Everyone saying he's not safe and no seat belt,when you have a job doing it you have to be quick and safe to a certain point if your too safe your too slow which means you don't get the work done
Lot of different saftey rules and laws about forklifts depending of country (and i guess also by state in federations). What is wrong or even illegal on one country can be something thaught to be the right way in another.
@@pacaa "It wont happen unless somebody really want to die..." what is that suppose to mean? I can do anything I want, ignoring all rules and safe guards put forth because accidents only happen because someone wants to die? That is stupid. I hope I never have to work around you Scooter.
Obviously a very skilled driver. Although turning with your forks in the air and leaving the truck running aren't ideal, in a warehouse setting its about speed as well. How many drive their car using the same techniques they learned in drivers training? I'll bet that truck driver appreciated the fast loading time.
Chris Billing I wear my seatbelt, rev match, I'm also a certified forklift driver he's slow and dangerous. He also would not pass the certificating testing at my job. I operate a number of different size forklifts. The Rico Elite being our largest.
i'm guessing alot of the comments here are from people who just got their licence and are now trying to look professional, trust me, many of those "do not's" they tell you at training are quickly thrown out the window
Like driving (backwards) while looking away for quite some time? Do many people leave the place where you work at alive, if things like that are thrown out the window?
@@GeBagger if you dont drive like the guy is this video you are a bitch. Look away, Drive as fast as you want . people should be looking out for you driving the lift.
My favorite part is when they mention that you should horn when u’re going backwards. I already hate that shit at the lessons. Honestly until you’re not in electronic forklift I can hardly believe that somebody is unable to hear that loud motor sound.
jaggernutox Thats like saying people who have driven a car for a while throw the rules of the road out the window, or people who use a firearm throw the rules out the window after they have used it for a while. Thats how people get killed. Rules are there for a reason
linde is nothing compared to jungheinrich. comfort, stick sensitivity, visibility, mechanism layout. spaceous and clean warehouse though. looks like a simple loading. he didn't do anything too dangerous, stop bitching. apart from obvious speeding in tight spaces, it's all good.
Every moment your eyes are not watching what is going on around you is a potential for disaster. Another forklift could pull out from a side aisle, a pedestrian could walk behind you. It can all happen in an instant. Driving a forklift is like driving a car, distracted driving is dangerous driving.
He's flooring it not looking at what's in front of him and there are complete blindspots where people could easily step out from behind something and die instantly. This is how dumbasses drive. I drive fast all the time in areas that permit it. Nobody "experienced" jeopardizes the lives of people they work with for 20+ years. Complete ignorance.
@@thatguy6638 it all depends on the rules in the company. Maybe pedestrians here have to give way to forklifts? Maybe they can't walk on this area. And the last point, sometimes there is no option to drive with rules.
@@kurdupel2 Forklifts almost always have the right of way in workplaces. That doesn't mean there aren't new people, tired people, people doing inspections unfamiliar with the area or maintenance ETC ETC. Your last sentence is criminal in Canada. Both parties could be in jail if you actually believe that. If you drive your car recklessly and kill someone, you're at fault. Same goes with at work. I drive a 15 thousand lb forklift with 10k on the forks. I could kill someone instantly driving 3mph if they get pinned between me and something solid. Stopping for 3 seconds to read a shipping list is better than killing your friend of 20 years.
@@thatguy6638 Of course you have 100% right but you have to cosider "working culture" of some country for example im typing this comment on forklift right now (I can't do that of course) but my manager sees no problem because I doing my job well and I do this on my own risk.
Never looked behind while reversing. Speeding and not wearing a seat belt also not once does he use thensteering assist. Head and body out the cab while loading. And loading while there is a pedestrian near by. And gets off the truck and leaves it running. Just to name afew.. even getting off his truck while his load is in the air and truck running
@@Vosty120 Vypínat motor pokaždý když vylezu z tý káry. To je jako si ustlat poslel pokaždý když se půjdu v noci vychcat. LOL :D Nevím v jakým stavu by ten motor za pár let byl. Taky dělám nakládku, a dělám to úplně stejně. Musíš trochu vykouknout abys viděl. To jsou chytrý kecy někoho kdo v tom nikdy neseděl.
Few things he did wrong didn't sound his horn while going through. The building looked at the paper while driving some one could have been seriously injured or dead
:D :D You people are stupid as twit of ape. You dont gonna horn every turn and every pass throw becose you would get insane in half of shift :) Its just experience and predict most of situation he is prepare to breake every time :) When he was lookin on papers he has peripheral vission on the road. You never drove a fork lifter.
So many lessons to be learned. How many people have you hurt or killed? Won't be long until it happens that's for sure, luck only lasts for so long. Complacency KILLS, true story. :(
Also, where is the "3 points of contact" when entering/leaving the fork-lift. Jumping out like that could easily slip, maybe twist knee or ankle and then be out of work. All these youngsters want to be 'flash" - glad I am now retired - we used to work fast, but not reckless!
Yup its dangerous while turning with a load in the air but if you know what you can and can't do while its raised, no problem...you are not going to go peddle to the metal while turning, that would be stupid and there are circumstances when you need to turn while raised with a load.
He really shouldn't be driving like that period, most of the time he isn't even looking at where he is going. Someone can get seriously hurt because of his recklessness and endangerment of others of heavy heavy equipment. Would not be surprised if got into some sort of accident.
I agree with Statimtek and Reyes completely:1-driving fastly forward+reading stupid papers instead of concentrate on road front of him.2-reversing-no observation again,3-if he load my truck like that-re-load it,if truck driver jump on brackes just in case all packs moved forward as he left the gaps between stacks.I operated same flt 12y.-best flt in the world,but he is danger czech driver.Question of the time when he will smash anyone ;)
Отвечу на ваш вопрос. Погрузички немецкой фирмы LINDE оснащены системой безопасности: пока педаль не нажмешь погрузчик не поедет. Погрузчки этой фирмы оснащены гидростатическим движителем, по сути они ездят с помощью гидравлики.
@@aleksander1982 я на линде езжу. И ой как хорошо он катится. Когда-то специально проверял. Стал на дороге с маленьким уклоном, отпустил педали, и как не странно, он покатился. Нажал тормоз - он стал, отпустил - покатился. И это у меня не старый линде. Ездил на старом, там вообще с этим беда, только стояночный тормоз. А так - крутые погрузчики, работать с двух педалей гораздо быстрее, чем с джойтиком переключения хода вперед и назад.
This kind of worker is the one of lose life or the one that kill someone. No safe belt,no high visibility vest,too sure by the experience made in years, @5:50 stay too near to his buddy that moving heavy load. Not a correct way to handle the turn,cause he made it wit raised load.But the best is @7:20 when he raise the load near his coworker without give him an alert. If i was your boss, you were unemployed immediately.
I have written here several times what I think about it and it does not tease me to write it all over again ... They all say it about the job and it does not know anything like you.
The books are the same the company's hadifferent products it means they need different handling. But reading a book or paper while driving not care where you going? Eyes on the road, now where are your forks
Já vůbec nevím co maj všichni za problém. Často tu čtu ty angl. komentáře o tom jak nedodržuješ předpisy atd... Kdyby ses měl ta celej den poutat a odpoutávat pokaždý když vylezeš/nastoupíš tak nevim twl :D Neznám nikoho kdo to dělá. Dělám v práci kde ještěrky jezdí a znám to. Kdybys měl dodržovat celej den ty sračky tak seš denně v práci o hodinu dýl :D Když své pracovišě znáš jak svý boty tak ve tvém ježdění nevidím vůbec problém. U nás v práci to je to samý. Tam ani na některých ještěrkách nedrží pořádně sedačky, takže kdyby se připoutal, tak letí ven i s tou sedačkou :D :D
Not true. In my company we are working every day by the book and seems strange when youwork too fast. Remember that too fast mean too dangerous. Be safe guys anyway.
You are the oddball in the bunch dardonero. My boss from day one told me that he wants me to be safe but when I'm able I'm expected to go wide open and move as fast as I possibly can. There would be no way I could manage 4 lines of production just by myself if I did everything safely by the book. I would be fired within a week or two as well.
That is not true completely , in every company the safety instructions is a priority and the book is a reference to the boss before operators , your boss will never talk to you but your supervisor will, and all supervisors are working according to the book too
this driver should be retested so many deadly mistakes everything from personal safety gear through operation of a fork lift this guy is a major hazard to many mistakes to mention thank go we have proper training in Australia but there is still a lot of cowboys out in the work place
Agreed, same here in the UK. I saw mistakes as big as turning with raised forks and as small and improperly dismounting. The guy has some skill but I think his confidence has outgrown his capabilities. A refresher course is definitely needed. I've been driving a counterbalance for 3 years and I do make small mistakes here and there but if I was seen operating it like this video I would be fired immediatley.
what is more important safety or how much you get out the door if you cant go by the book more staff are needed or you have to find a job where you safely operate time to re think on where your priorities are I would be choosing safety first and you don't have to change much to be safe you can still do what you do now but be more aware there is things you can do to be safe about your operations
Should be labeled how to cause an accident/death. No seat belt, no honking, no stopping at intersections, climbing off lift to talk to another operator. Hanging off lift. Lol