Goten's Potential VS Gohan & Trunks 

I think the fact that he's STILL the youngest Super Saiyan ever hints that he might be more natural to evolve into other forms. Naturally gifted, but left untrained.

Goten should have been used more

In all honesty, Goten has a great deal more potential than Gohan, even having a slight advantage in potential than Trunks due to being a super saiyan at a younger age than Trunks and being close to Trunks in power. Goten simply doesn't achieve his full potential in dragonball. Even Gohan thought at one point that Goten could be stronger than himself someday. If Goten trained as diligently as Goku, he would surpass him, just as Gohan did a couple of times.

Goten definitely has the most potential out of all the saiyan hybrids, he is just wasted potential He is the son a mastered ssj goku whereas gohan and even trunks were son of version of their father when they were weaker Turned ssj at 7 with minimum training and was nearly on par with trunks in power even though trunks is a year older and trained a lot in the gravity room with vegeta, goten only trained with gohan and chichi for a couple of days

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He definitely has more training and natural potential than Gohan but when it comes to rage boosts I think Gohan is best while trunks is an in between

Toriyama said that Goten and Trunks can go SSJ faster than their progenitors thanks to them being raise in a peaceful world. If we use that plus Universe 6’s INCREDIBLY powerful Saiyans, I think it’s easy to assume that the more peace that a saiyan is raised in will result in a far stronger saiyan. There’s tons of other factors too like Goku and Vegeta being stronger when they conceived the younger boys. When it comes to potential I think that Goten and Trunks do have more or the very least just as much. The issue is that I think he just wasn’t motivated enough in the future to train like Goku, which pushed Goku back from forcing him. Plus Goku wanted to make sure the reincarnation of Maijin Buu was trained to be humble and good, I don’t think he was exactly uninterested in his son. We saw that Gohan reached SSJ Blue levels in no time after training with Piccolo and Future Trunks reached something close with his form. I think the only thing keeping these characters from having their potential boosts is the writing having no need for them at the moment.

My boy Goten!!!!!!! Lets get started Q. First my boy threw hands with a SSJ Gohan at the age of 7 & if he could fly wouldv'e been a serious opponent in a real match (prolly still losing). I also think the emphasis of "play figthing" with trunks was a bigger impact power wise than training with chichi than implied....Trunks is teaching/inadvertently training him how to get stronger while fighting cuz we all know saiyans get stronger while fighting & they aint play fighting like normal kids & if you have seen kids play fight they aint got no chill! Chichi taught him "how" to fight, defend, & stay disicplined while fighting, not get stronger thats why she was so surpised when he turned super saiyan, she was just teaching him the Ox king/ roshi's fighting style that we seen goku and everybody else use, specifically just like chichi when she fought goku in the 23rd WMAT in dragonball. He just took that fighting style to a higher level when he would fight trunks and others, so there's no problem with his fighting. & to talk about that rage boost/ power boost (leaving out bio broly cuz that turned me up!) When Goten saw Super buu step on chichi as an egg right before ya boy Piccolo stopped him, i always felt he was deadass finna snap, Idk about going ssj2 cuz he wasnt strong enough but that definetly had a big impact on the motivation & dedication of his character & we see that when he went two weeks straight training hard in the HTC from the jump with minimal breaks while we saw trunks goofing off & drinking sodas, Goten wasted no time & got significantly strong to the point that he went from weaker than Android 18 to stronger than Android 18 & base fusion went from getting whooped by fat buu to piccolo having ackknowledged & gotenks thinking that just his base was enough to beat fat buu at that time. Goten until the end of Z has never shown not to love fighting just as much as goku & you can see this whenever fighting comes up how excited he gets(ex:buu)... If he had goku's influence from the jump & didn't look up to a lazy gohan who did no training while an adolscent, he wouldv'e been way stronger to the point that if goku had trained him, he possible wouldv'e been SSJ2 lvel when the tournament started & possible closer to vegeta if not stronger!!! Even in super he would ask goku if he can go train with him but chichi keeps fucking stopping him every TIME!!! & this leads to the end of Z where after goku let kid buu kill him & waited for UUB to show i doubt that goku actually trained goten until when we see him do it on screen because goku was suprised Goten hadn't improved by doing self alone training which nobody taught him,(YOU cant teach an old dog new tricks ) & thats in essence what goku was trying to do because i think he put more time into himself & pan than into goten before we see him train goten. The burden of peace, the burden of chichi post buu, the burden of trunks having to go be an Capsule corp official, & the burden of having a weak mind setted older brother who only wants to crack MR. SATAN"s daughter & raising a child in which goten looks up to, all inevitabally made Goten the way we see him in the end of Z.... I dont think its Goku's fault that he didn't take up the responsiblity to keep him getting stronger & take over as a mentor immediately after all these events i just named unfolded because we've never even seen him do it except when he trained gohan in the HTC & thats alot of fators to put on goku's mental for reasons his son's motivation for fighting is gone especially since goku was dead during his upbringing so he wouldn't know all of these are reasons he trained & fought....if he even cared that is. Though it wasn't goku's fault, if he did take up that responsiblity as a father & make up all the lost time he lost from goten's childhood, while creating his dream son like he wanted in the beginning of DBZ even tho its uncharacteristic, Goten wouldv'e def learned SSJ3 & been exposed to way more methods of training maybe even going to the otherworld & getting more fighting experience,techniques & tips.. & for some reason we have to bring up DBS he def wouldve learned trunk's form & debatibally been the 1st or 2nd strongest saiyan in the entire series behind or in front of goku if goku had trained him because he def wouldv'e rekindle that motivation & made my niqqa GOten a total monster!!!!!!! My #1 favorite character!! My niqqa Goten.

It really does suck man. I’ve always thought Goten could be such a good character. He was my favorite growing up and I really wish they put the lime light on him and Trunks as successors and protectors of the planet in place of their fathers. :((

I've always wanted Gohan to properly take over for Goku after Cell, then at some point later in the story Toriyama could have Gohan settle down, then basically make Goten the new young Goku and Trunks would be his Rival, but Trunks and Gotens Rivalry and Friendship would have been ever closer than Goku's and Vegetas.

What matters is how powerful the parents are at conception. Goku made Goten after the time chamber training. Goten has the most potential in my opinion.

The thing is Gohan and Trunks got so much screentime and Goten got none, Goten never fought a serious for by himself so we never got any evidences on how large his potential is

Also, goten could have a rage boost, but never had the chance or opportunity for it to occour.

Ayyee very nice to see a video talking about goten and his potential!

Finally!! I saw the notification yesterday but it said private video I was pretty bummed 😅

Glad to see another post from you, i believe goten has the most poential!

Low-key Goten is one of my favorite character his combos in dbzeno1 were fun.

Huh? 🤔 I always wonder about Goten's potential so hearing your take on it was interesting. Good video. 👍

So glad your still around only dragonball channel I can stand. Been a long time fan keep up the good work

Damn I forgot I had my notifications on for your channel, good to see you back brother

Glad to see your back uploading

A Qaaman Video is always appreciated 👍🏾

woohoo! goten video and the legend returning! talk about them using swords! (There's a Tl:Dr at the bottom) Btw I don't think that just because he doesn't get rage boosts like the others doesn't mean his potential is weaker. Sometimes you gotta consider character like with the Uub situation. Goku doesn't really force people to train with him, it was clear from seeing Goten that he stopped caring about his fighting potential but that doesn't make it weaker. Meanwhile Uub got what he wanted from the tournament and actually did want to train with Goku because he actually did want to fight, he liked it as a sport. I doubt that it's because he didn't see anything in Goten like you're implying, Goku isn't gonna force Goten to train, it's that simple. We also know that potential doesn't just head out with age, that was stated by Vegeta when he said Gohan still has plenty of latent power in him, he just doesn't access it. So in regards to Goten to say that his potential is less than trunks and Gohan because he's a slacker, I would say is wrong. Those 2 are counterparts to one another so it's safe to assume that it's on par with each other. You argue it's because we've seen Gohan and Trunks get rage boosts but when has Goten or kid Trunks been pushed to that degree? it's clearly life or death when they do it so is it really fair to say that Goten can't? I would say that Goten is a ball of talent that likes to show off his tricks but doesn't push himself beyond the cool stuff. He's passive and very impressionable, capable of changing his attitude quickly, from pissed off at buu to playing with Trunks again. If there is a difference between Goten and Trunks's potential, I'd say it doesn't even come close to a Caulifla and Kale situation. Goten's potentially doesn't seem up to snuff until you realize that he doesn't get into hopeless situations where there's literally nothing to do but fight or die, like Trunks with Zamasu or Gohan and Cell. TL:DR: 1, Goten's circumstances never lined up to give him a rage boost because he has stuff like fusion in his arsenal and is impressionable, 2, potential doesn't wane in DB or if it did it doesn't anymore, 3, Goku won't force Goten to train, it's not because he doesn't see anything in Goten but does in Uub.

Its scary because goten trained with chichi only and then gohan and is almost as powerful as trunks imagine him training with goku for a day

Makes you wonder why Trunks never showed Goten how to fly. What an A hole friend 😂

andrew wiggings with that wolves jersey :'( memories... great vid btw!

Glad to have you back.

this video is full of forced logic lol...1 goku never wanted to train his kids, he trained gohan because he had had to and by had i mean HAD TO. it's also not fair to comment on powerups in a peaceful future as even gohan became shit, and goten was still able to fight on par with trunks who trained much more even in the future. for the whole gt taking the body, yes you focused on him wanting to move from goten's body to gohan's body yet you quickly just went over how he also wanted to move from gohan's body to vegeta, are now now saying vegeta's body has more potential than gohan? as for creativity and the whole ingredients things, their is an element of truth but you are taking way too much from goten, the whole silly playful personality is from goten, the pranks are from goten so on and so forth. finally he never had the chance to build up a period of training followed by a period of great pressure all on his own to see his latent potential slightly being unleashed like trunks and gohan, but just because he didn't have an arc like that while others had, doesn't make it fair to say that goten doesn't have that potential to begin with.

Have to disagree the only reason why goten hasn’t shown more potential than trunks or gohan is because of lazy writing. Been saying for years goten has the most potential out of all them. Even more than gohan than trunks. He was the youngest super Saiyan and strongest 7 year old in the story. Gohan had weaker teachers but so did goten he had chichi!! Goku didn’t see goten to train was because he made a “promise” when he killed buy also he saw goten was gonna be just like gohan in the sense that he wasn’t gonna like fighting like him.

Goten seems to have a slightly higher potential than Trunks, but not Gohan. Goten was allowed to train with Trunks early on (which could explain why they’re both so powerful), but Gohan was constantly being gated by ChiChi his entire childhood. I would love to see all 3 of them put in more work in DBS tho.

the giannis and wiggins analogy is really clever, never would have thought of it that way

Another good video

I think goku training uub was more a safety measure to try and make sure he stayed on the right path

Interesting discussion:)

Btw, for all we know Goten could also have that rage boost Gohan has, + just better raw potential! We'll see.

Goten should achieve ssj blue kaioken

It's Qaaman here today! 🤩

Gotten would have the potential if he was more focused on his training, but the End of Z and GT show he just isn't much interested in fighting as Goku is.

Damn I haven't heard you in years. Your voice has changed a lot brother! I LOVED your Renaissance video. But I can't find it anymore 😶

Goten had way more potential than Trunks. Trunks was training in the gravity chamber with Vegeta while Goten trained with Gohan who had couldn’t train him the way he really wanted to due to Videl constantly being there

Finally Goten gettin love

There's also the kanzenshuu mentioning that hybrids born with no tails having higher potential than those born with tails

I don’t mind newer Saiyans getting super saiyan easily…especially because they are being taught how to activate it…Goku just ended up doing it…and Vegeta had to teach himself after seeing Goku do it it’s like learning a language…it’s easy as a child harder as an adult

You also have to look at the fact that when Goten was conceived Goku was fresh out of the time chamber and continuously stayed in the Super Saiyan form. So that could also be a factor to Goku and chichi conceiving Goten with enormous power possiblity.

Omg I remember this channel!

Didn't you post this yesterday?

I always thought Gohan had the most hidden potential because of his nature (personality) not just his genetics. He is a gentle protector and brave even in the most extreme situations. Those are prime conditions for rage boosts and exponential growth under pressure. When he sees people and lives are endangered by evil he is able to tap into unfathomable strength and righteous fury. Trunks and Goten simply don't naturally have that kind of mindset to reach such power levels.

The boy should get god transformation

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Goten most underuse characters in db, I wish Toriyama give Goten his own arc defeat main villain like gohan did with Cell.

Man it’s a shame he and kid trunks didn’t do much in super. Hopefully they do more later in the series

We all miss you king ❤️

@0:49 and from a narrative perspective, it wouldn’t make sense to fully develop goten’s character because he looks way too similar to goku. Imagine if the goku black arc in super had a future goten 😂 that would’ve been a narrative mess trying to separate 3 clones of each other

THANK YOU for adding that Super retcons the original, now null-in-void, ending of Z. I've been saying that for so long and so many either don't believe me or just say "we'll see". No, we already saw. It's null-in-void. I think the real draw back is that Goten is never given the chance to expand his potential. He wants to go train with Goku on Beerus' world. Chichi says no. He wanted to train another time and she said no because of homework or something. Then, yeah, there's the draw back that he didn't have anyone to train with other than Chichi and Trunks for the first seven years of his life. And Trunks probably held back or enjoyed beating Goten. I mean, why didn't he teach Goten how to fly? As you said, he's really never been given the chance to get a rage boost. Closest in the series is when Majin Buu steps on egg Chichi but Piccolo stopped Goten before he get started. My boy needs the opportunity for potential!

I honestly think goten had a lot of potential, but his lack of confidence and personality is a problem, wonder how he would of turned out if Goku never died.

Fans fail to realize that chichi is the daughter of the Ox King. She may not be a full human

I feel you can't take away that ssj was extremely natural too them,you can say that it was peaceful environment but goten went ssj because he gotcl mad and was push to do ssj,but gohan when mad multiple times didn't turn ssj,so in overall potential you can't ignore that ,gohan had learn ssj way older,the only thing that make gohan maybe higher potential is ssj2 that anger boost.I think in base goten was really strong without gohan experiences and if was train properly and didn't lack the well fight probably wouldav surpassed gohan ,the reason I think goten was so weak in end series was that he still went for chicks ,slack off in training and was less likely want train.If you take away all gohan experiences ,goten would be stronger age to age,gohan only got stronger because he needed be,goten was strong to begin with.Side note if goten turned ssj2 when chichi died that wouldav been crazy sadly didn't happen that way

goten is special but he is not training like gohan remember how gohan went through hell 6 months living alone 6 months dodging seeing everyone die his father come to help him but no successfull he had to go on planet namek he saw krillin piccolo die again he then see goku in a serious heart condition and lastly he saw goku sacrificing That's The Reason Why Everyone Want To See More Gohan Action

As a HUGE long time Goten fan, this makes me sad :'(

Goten's potential is overwhelming. He achieved it just because he got kicked.

Hopefully Toei will leave it alone this time.

2 vids in a week?! Who are you and what did you do to qaaman!

Goten almost had a rage out. When Majin Buu turned his Mother, Chi-Chi into an egg and stepped on her.

The 🐐

Was there something wrong with the video last time?

Chi chi is a master martial artist as well

Goku needs to pay attention to cultivating his sons' potential...cause he only maintains his position as the strongest in the universe because he's neglecting his sons' (*much greater) potential

Pretty good for a year old clip 😁

WHo is more powerful gohan beast or goten trunks

I just realized that goten was also training with chichi. Just because you are smart doesn't mean your not gonna learn how to defend yourself 😭😭

Also, ChiChi IS abnormally strong for a human...why else would EVERYONE be afraid of her. We've seen her hit base Goku hard enough to hurt him and even leave big ass knots (that you don't see him get against any of the crazy powerful villains, Beerus, or Vegeta)

Goku really just ditched his own son for a reincarnation of buu

Gohan's Potential is so high that reading books makes him stronger

Imagine telling the saiyans that the legendary super Saiyan was attained by a 7 year old boy who couldn't fly

I feel like the only reason goten's potential is never realised is because of bad writing. I mean they never use goten for something serious. Talking about rage boost, he was never really in the same situation as gohan or future trunks. Even when his mother was killed by buu piccolo told him that she could be brought back by the dragon balls. I think an arc where goten realises he's position and decides to leave his father's shadow would be great.

Do you plan to post semi regulary now?

Bro Goku was super Saiyan when he put Gohan in chi chi think about it

6:18 Wait what how could he force that?

Gohan has the highest potential imo

Goten may not have shown rage bursts like Gohan or even future Trunks in DBS, but he never had an opportunity. Goten benefits more from sparring against Trunks, but not as much as Trunks did training under Vegeta and in the gravity chamber. The base power you're born with, rage bursts and how fast you can gain strength through training determines your potential. While Gohan was born with lower power level, he had incredible rage boosts. His sheer determination allowed him to go from base goku level to matching goku in SSB form. He also tied with Kefla in the manga. Gohan has shown greater potential in unlocking new forms and get stronger faster through training. While Goten hasn't displayed rage boosts yet, has he ever trained seriously? Who is to say that he can't get stronger faster than Trunks through training?

Idk Q, I missed your vids man but if Goten trained consistently trained with Goku I think you'd be having a different conversation.

Yeah Goten !

cmon andrew wiggins is a all star now but i agree hes like a tenshinhan

Wait doesn't end of z take place after super? Was end of z retconned? Help me.

Trunks pre going into the past yes not when he went back, gohan? Before mystic maybe

Nice video Quaaman on Goten's potential. Its good to see you regularly uploadly now. Goten has wasted potential and he needs more screen time in Dragonball Super. I would like to see a video on Pan's Potential vs Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Bra and how much Saiyan blood is required to turn Super Saiyan.

If he kept his tail for Ki balance and trained 30 years with Whis since Birth he would come out on top.

Gohan grew up seeing and being in the worst situations. Probably had the craziest childhood out of most of the characters maybe even Future Trunks

People saying he is stronger because he achieved super sayan sooner : this is not an argument. Future trunks and kid trunks have the same DNA, yet achieved it at different times. If you try to justify it differently than "it's because they did not have time to introduce it properly in the story", it just could be that having people around you that are able to transform makes it easier. Just like it is easy for you to know pythagoras, but this guy had to be super smart to think of it at the time Same for future Gohan : adult Gohan could destroy super Buu and was stronger than ssj3 Goku, but future Gohan was not as strong as Vegeta in the cyborg arc So no, transforming early doesn't mean anything. Truth is there is no way to know Goten's potential as we can only know it when another character feels it (Goku telling it for Gohan) or when the character shows it himself (like Goku or raging Gohan)

When the world needs him most

This is why Goku black should've been goten. It would solve all of his problems ( story wise ). He is that one character who needs an arc to himself, but no, we only get goku and vegeta -_- ...

I think the whole potential over training and hard work thing defeats the purpose of dragon ball and Goku. Goku didn’t have “hidden potential” he had hard work and more than anything, passion. Which I think is a main factor

After your comparison to basketball player I think future trunks is jersey lin came in and tore it for like one season and none of us are want to let it go. Talking bout linsansity for those who know

Dam dog why you take it down and re-upload utube on that mess?

Goten should be the one who takes Goku place..Gohan had his chance and failed miserably

They need to change things for Goten.

Would you ever dabble in what if videos, like every once in awhile, just a thought, what if ideas are endless in dragon ball.

Why Goten Looks like Yamcha ? 💀

Damn you went hard on Goten with this video lmao sad thing is you were just stating facts, he really is useless.

I don't think vegeta taught trunks too much considering the fact that he didn't know trunks could transform until he mastered the transformation