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Vice City Stories 00:24:14
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@TheCriminalHistorian
@TheCriminalHistorian 5 месяцев назад
TRIGGER WARNING: ableism, violence, bi-sexual erasure, asexual erasure, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia and pretty much every other kind of xenophobia imaginable. Queer folks unfamiliar with the series at all, please proceed with caution
@dadeleemurphy85
@dadeleemurphy85 5 месяцев назад
Chop is the best!
@mattschehr163
@mattschehr163 5 месяцев назад
nothing to caution here
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 5 месяцев назад
Odd seeing bi with a hyphen
@tristengoetz7911
@tristengoetz7911 5 месяцев назад
Can you please continue GTAGeographies because I can’t wait for your take on the HD universe LC because I think I know what is what but wouldn’t mind a second opinion. Like I’m pretty sure Leftwood is Englewood Alderney city is Jersey city and port Tudor and Tudor are Elizabeth perhaps mixed with Newark
@miguelpasamano4995
@miguelpasamano4995 4 месяца назад
WARNING! brush up on your Greek before you use such big words!
@Idontknke
@Idontknke 5 месяцев назад
In gta sanandreas you see gay and lesbian couples holding hands while walking
@ChainikVlad
@ChainikVlad 5 месяцев назад
You can see them only in San Fierro, LS and LV don't have those LGBTQ couples.
@Monocheto1
@Monocheto1 5 месяцев назад
​@@ChainikVladi saw a lesbian couple yesterday in los santos, it might just be a rare spawn
@ChainikVlad
@ChainikVlad 5 месяцев назад
@@Monocheto1 probably zone spawn didn't updated, you can see the effects if you go fast from rich area to poor, like seeing Infernus in Ganton. Same applies to pedestrians.
@Monocheto1
@Monocheto1 5 месяцев назад
@@ChainikVlad happened to me sometimes seeing sport cars in poor areas, i like to wonder a lot in the playthru im having now
@G_FRE
@G_FRE 5 месяцев назад
BASED
@culture1727
@culture1727 5 месяцев назад
As one of the ex-head writers for DMA, this wasn't exactly our top concern, but we had a laugh that was quite enjoyable and memorable.
@SoAaron_
@SoAaron_ 5 месяцев назад
Is your name Brian?
@rangerv1
@rangerv1 5 месяцев назад
I actually have a trans friend who’s dad is friends with the original gta dev
@SoAaron_
@SoAaron_ 5 месяцев назад
@@rangerv1 Wasn't their multiple devs?
@metakn1ght
@metakn1ght 5 месяцев назад
@@rangerv1 no you don't
@justajad2809
@justajad2809 4 месяца назад
Woah ! Saluting you first ! And this reponse of you is honest and true since DMA/Rockstar Games always wanted to fuel controversy while always leaving a satirical result that leaves room for players to understand and reason through the real world.
@kemmyistaken
@kemmyistaken 5 месяцев назад
Forgot trevor was pansexual lmfao
@Takejiro24
@Takejiro24 5 месяцев назад
"Any hole's a goal" is absolutely wild ☠️
@DiogenesUlyanov
@DiogenesUlyanov 5 месяцев назад
Trevor was nonbinary and pan lmao
@bohoasa
@bohoasa 5 месяцев назад
From what we know now after the events of gta 6 is that Trevor is a Vinewood guru now so quite possibly he's become a better person now and much more Intune with his sexuality like Brucie (and Tao)
@kemmyistaken
@kemmyistaken 5 месяцев назад
@@DiogenesUlyanovnon binary? Really???
@kemmyistaken
@kemmyistaken 5 месяцев назад
@@bohoasaprobably trevor might be less insane
@kkduds3119
@kkduds3119 5 месяцев назад
in vice city stories you completely skipped over umberto! including his receptionist that explicitly says shes lesbian.
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 5 месяцев назад
Wellfare Woman
@arthurvyater656
@arthurvyater656 5 месяцев назад
I didn't like Bernie. He was supposed to have a similar background to Nico, so you'd expect he has seen shit. Instead he was just a "damsel" in distress just to be saved by Nico. When his lovely boat ride is ruined by men with guns, I'd expect him to help Nico instead of being a burden. Juxtaposition of over the top flamboyance and ability to handle himself during an armed conflict would make him such an interesting character. Such a wasted potential.
@Mike-ss6ui
@Mike-ss6ui 5 месяцев назад
Now that I think about it, if he was also part of the war, then shouldn't he also be able to fight and shoot like Niko?
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 5 месяцев назад
I also had concept of reimagining Bernie as more serious (or maybe more accurately, broken) and we learn more about his experience as a gay man growing up in Yugoslavia and during the war where he would've put on a "macho" image to his comrades. And maybe contrast that with Niko also putting on a more "all together" stoic face that we'd slowly see chipped away at throughout the main story. Your idea of juxtaposing his "new" attitude and flamboyance that Niko finds him with and him still being a former soldier who knows how to handle a gun and himself in a shootout perfectly adds to this imo. It'd add more dimension to his character and make him less of a short, comedic role, fitting better in GTA IV's story.
@rogueraccoon1840
@rogueraccoon1840 5 месяцев назад
Yeah? It makes no sense but Gay tony of all people can fight and shoot. He literally uses a Glock during gunfights
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, him being able to handle himself in a fight would mean his orientation and self-presentation is just one part of him, but not the only character trait. Because nobody is just one thing, we all have many facets.
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 5 месяцев назад
​@@rogueraccoon1840Also managed to turn on the saftey of a glock
@louismartinez4335
@louismartinez4335 5 месяцев назад
Gay man here, 31 years old and my first GTA experience was Vice City. I thought the stereotypes of LGBT folks in the games were genius. I genuinely enjoyed them and thought it was hilarious! Never was offended and will never be. My favorite LGBT character is Elizabeta Torres and my least favorite is Evan, he is the embodiment of toxic gay male living in NYC.
@SoAaron_
@SoAaron_ 5 месяцев назад
I never even thought Elizabeta Torres was LGBT
@da420wizard6
@da420wizard6 5 месяцев назад
@@SoAaron_almost anyyyy gangster female in the hood is gonna be a lesbian idk why but I can name like 3 gangster lesbians from my hood who all dress n damn near almost look like dudes one they asses got whole sideburns and slight mustache
@TheCollapse410
@TheCollapse410 5 месяцев назад
Well ur not like the new gay ppl that's for sure. Now it's hate everything unless it bows down and screams that ppl are amazing all the time no matter what do no wrong and are powerful and strong in every way.
@legzzzzz
@legzzzzz 5 месяцев назад
I also love Elizabeta Torres. My favorite female character so far in the franchise. Such a wild character.
@unclekaz3153
@unclekaz3153 4 месяца назад
​​@@TheCollapse410 none of what you said makes remotely any sense
@frodope
@frodope 5 месяцев назад
In deleted lines from GTA 4 Elizabeta calls from prison and says she loves it, has a hot girlfriend and is running things inside
@stefanosiclari
@stefanosiclari 5 месяцев назад
I always thought the psycho from Vice City being dressed as a woman was meant to be a joke on Love Fist being so drunk/high/stupid that they wouldn't be able to see through a very bad disguise. Anyways, I'm about halfway through and right now it sounds to me like you're confusing "a good depiction" of a queer person with "a depiction of a good queer person" - as if they couldn't be just as hypocritical, selfish, opportunistic or outright evil as any other person you meet on the streets. Most people in this franchise are at least somewhat negative.
@cxeroannuki2840
@cxeroannuki2840 4 месяца назад
i don't think that's true. gay tony is also a criminal, certainly no more of a good person than luis - especially considering that luis is his enforcer. but the writers don't otherize him for his sexuality, or make fun of him for it. and she praises this depiction. she actually seems to like reni and trevor, the problem just seems to be that their sexuality and gender identity leans into some negative stereotypes about lgbt people rather than just being an incidental characteristic.
@kailomonkey
@kailomonkey 2 месяца назад
I thought The Psycho was just trying to get in to see Love Fist as a girl because that's who they'd let in as groupies, but that would still be a harmful trope of 'cross-dressers out to trick straight men'. As for the video creator's opinion on positive and negative portrayals I had to accept it's subjective. For instance I don't see a problem with trans pedestrians hanging outside clubs occasionally in Los Santos. The players could bully them for sure but they can bully any pedestrian type.
@ArthurMorgan18993
@ArthurMorgan18993 5 месяцев назад
Congratulations on coming out. That is already such a hard thing to do but I can’t imagine how much harder it would be while having a niche following, especially with an audience that would usually not be so opening. I wish you the best!
@MoonlightBelladonna
@MoonlightBelladonna 4 месяца назад
Transwoman here, I've found the Gta series around the same time I first realized I was trans and while some of the depictions have been bad there's been some interesting LGBT characters in the series and tbh I am curious to see how they continue this topic in their next games. Also congrats for finding out who you are ^ ^
@lozgod
@lozgod 4 месяца назад
GTA does it right. Don’t give narcissistic neediness to groups who think they need a spotlight on them. Some people are gay. Some are straight. Who cares. Are you a good person or bad person? That’s all that matters.
@DrusieLycheborne
@DrusieLycheborne 5 месяцев назад
RE: The United Liberty Paper Contact's reference to the FIB, that's derived from a *LOT* of speculation that J. Edgar Hoover, the first (and longest-serving) Director of the FBI, was some flavor of queer. Because the Bureau became kind of a cult of personality around him during his tenure, that speculation became kind of a harmful generalization around it.
@kareemali1742
@kareemali1742 5 месяцев назад
In liberty city stories there is a song on the radio called love is the feeling and it has lesbian undertones, also in vice city stories it is implied that Reni and Diego Mendez had a sexual encounter
@rangerv1
@rangerv1 5 месяцев назад
Oh yeah and the lesbian the Danny Trejo’s character hits on
@kareemali1742
@kareemali1742 5 месяцев назад
@@rangerv1I don’t think she was a lesbian, I think she was saying that because she wasn’t interested in dating umberto.
@judithmorgendorffer6106
@judithmorgendorffer6106 5 месяцев назад
13:30 I'm pretty sure he's said to be in disguise as it's a signing for female groupies and Love Fist is on the lookout for him
@snake_ls
@snake_ls 4 месяца назад
yeah always thought that by the context of the scene would be pretty clear, that he was trying to pass as a female fan to get closer to kill Love fist
@Sharp22CatFish
@Sharp22CatFish 4 месяца назад
What are you saying I have no idea what that means
@FREEDOM80085
@FREEDOM80085 3 месяца назад
@@Sharp22CatFish hes pretending to be a chick as a disguise
@Sharp22CatFish
@Sharp22CatFish 3 месяца назад
@@FREEDOM80085 who's being disgusted?
@FREEDOM80085
@FREEDOM80085 3 месяца назад
@@Sharp22CatFish I said "disguise", not "disgust". Smartest lgbt pfp 💀💀💀💀
@MrDaredev44
@MrDaredev44 5 месяцев назад
I hate that you have to include that little disclaimer at the beginning to just not get death threats from losers. Love your content thank you for existing in this space.
@AfroDevil
@AfroDevil 5 месяцев назад
The Irony of you calling them losers while this guy make an hour long discussing the sexuality of gta characters so palpable 😂
@mero7731
@mero7731 5 месяцев назад
@@AfroDevilwhat irony? If you send death threats and get upset over a gay video, you’re sensitive. Also this is a completely valid discussion as gta is a social commentary.
@Noah_Levy
@Noah_Levy 5 месяцев назад
@@AfroDevilAww, Somebody feels called out!
@TheCollapse410
@TheCollapse410 5 месяцев назад
​@@AfroDevilexactly. And death threats online happen to everyone. Their called kids. And if they even happen. Rediculous. Funny thing is their side literally get into groups and shout ppl down and attack ppl and have done the past 6 mass pew pews but yet somehow the right gets blamed for random internet trolls.
@bs_blackscout
@bs_blackscout 5 месяцев назад
Somehow V feels like a bit of a step back in comparison to IV. Anyway, great video! I respect, accept and fully support you as you are! Keep up the great work!
@danworks9559
@danworks9559 5 месяцев назад
GTA v was a step back in quite a few ways
@da420wizard6
@da420wizard6 5 месяцев назад
In general 5 is one the worst gta games and it’s grown a lot on me when it first came out I hated that shit and still don’t love it like I do San Andreas vice city and 4
@MaidofRage420
@MaidofRage420 5 месяцев назад
GTA 5 is a step back in comparison to a lot of games in general, it's all flash with no substance
@MrBossFML
@MrBossFML 5 месяцев назад
​@@da420wizard6objectively 5 is far from the worse GTA game
@sharquimetal
@sharquimetal 4 месяца назад
@@MrBossFML One of the best.
@toritopihuas
@toritopihuas 4 месяца назад
Also, you know what “el burro” means, my man was probably packing that heat!😂
@Blunt_Man
@Blunt_Man 5 месяцев назад
My opinion? All completely fine. It's a game that pokes fun at EVERYBODY, not like they singled out 1 group. That's why I always liked R*, nobody is off limits and that's how it should be, making protected classes is extremely problematic for obvious reasons. Imo if you're going to play an old R* game, there's a chance you'll be offended and if you can't handle it, probably a sign that their games aren't for you and that's fine.
@TheSynthPunk
@TheSynthPunk 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, it's kind of like the South Park of video games, it's aggressively centrist so nobody is safe from being made fun of. It's not for everybody, but it's valid, we need media like this.
@cassievania
@cassievania 5 месяцев назад
40-something queer checking in. You are spot on saying that the games are a distillation of the zeitgeist of their time of release, and you can see that evolution in as short a time as Reni to Bernie to Tony. And GTA in particular takes the piss with EVERYONE. The right gets it as hard as the left, so I don't really get bothered by the portrayals, it's part of the experience of the satirical universe.
@FriendlyChemist907
@FriendlyChemist907 5 месяцев назад
It is really interesting to see how the media handled this stuff at the time. Each game is a little capsule of the time. A "time capsule" if you will
@dusnikz
@dusnikz 4 месяца назад
As gay man who played this games since I was 8, I never really found harmful this games, sure there are slurs, bad jokes and bad taste stereotypes, but this series specially since VC has clearly tried to make fun of American society, almost every character in this games are a stereotype of their archetype and a piece of trash. Things like OGLoc being gay I find it more close to making fun of gangsters rappers who think they're are so tough but are actually insecure, so much that they will deny their idententy because of the opinion of other people rather than themselves. It would be hypocritical to have a queer character that is a good person, like hell for me the best representation and my favorite is Trevor and he is a psycho. Obviously this jokes can harm after all this fandom is very homophobic, for example there's a lot of mods who just delete the gay flags of San Fierro, and I don't like that, but like I said I things is more fault of the fandom rather than the developers, if they decided to just make one group of people into the good ones in this world where everyone is trash, it would just end up like Saints Row Reboot. There's joke that I don't like obviously like the CW crossdresser, I think is less funny and more hurtful with the dialogue about his dad. But there are also ones who I don't really care because of how crazy they're like the white supr* gay bikers (which I think is making fun more of bikers rather than other thing, there's rumors of both of those things being common in biker circles) And to be fair a lot when right under my nose, like yes my first non gender conforming character was Remi, but at my age of 11 when I first played VCS, I just saw them as a weird guy with that makeup and at the end of their missions I ended up liking their eccentric personality rather than focusing on his fourth gender change. At the end of the day I don't care about this jokes and to be fair I like it more, mainly because as a Hispanic guy I take this more as just other jab at American society and its consumerism and false facade, rather than making fun at a group of specific people, is just one of those things you gotta add if you want to make fun of a society, you have to criticize it from every angle, so there shouldn't be any exceptions
@madmodder123
@madmodder123 4 месяца назад
well said
@tristengoetz7911
@tristengoetz7911 5 месяцев назад
30:18 idk why but Brucie being gay never crossed my mind i always thought he was a fat kid who grew up insecure due to a cruel bully of an older brother (Mori) and the fact “hot” women never payed him any attention…. So once he had enough money he was able to afford to change his lifestyle thinking that getting with superficial “hot” girls, driving sports cars, drinking expensive champagne at nightclubs etc, would give him satisfaction and of course being insecure had to take steroids to keep up this facade without putting in the proper work. That in turn resulted in roid rage which caused him to have Niko kill people on his behalf, even mentioning that the “red mist”(roid rage) got to him Niko said he “would be his friend but is done killing people for him” because it’s not right. I always interpreted the overintimacy with Luis in the club to be Brucie being wasted, like one of those things you tell him about the next morning and he’s like what no way! But definitely a sign of latent homosexual tendencies.
@Docnew
@Docnew 4 месяца назад
52:40 it’s gta, it’s supposed to be offensive and make you angry 💀
@aveberrie
@aveberrie 5 месяцев назад
congrats on coming out girlll!!!
@TheCollapse410
@TheCollapse410 5 месяцев назад
Wow. It's that easy huh. Crazy. Def brave thing tho. I mean it's not like the gov, movies, cartoons, books, schools, comics, radio, games and more are cheering it all on.
@jamariojackson4289
@jamariojackson4289 5 месяцев назад
You ok bro ?
@NattyStar77
@NattyStar77 5 месяцев назад
​@@TheCollapse410 As a transgender woman it is not lmao
@OnceWasSomething
@OnceWasSomething 5 месяцев назад
@@TheCollapse410 That copium's good huh
@HorribleRedDeadEdits
@HorribleRedDeadEdits 8 дней назад
@@OnceWasSomethingfr and paint
@xxsnowbirbiexx7530
@xxsnowbirbiexx7530 5 месяцев назад
Yoooooo we love to see it . congrats on finding yourself. Its a tough thing. Grand Theft Auto is literally the only game series thats allowed me to make fun of myself by making fun of everyone
@xxSprite_Goblinxx
@xxSprite_Goblinxx 5 месяцев назад
So sorry if I’m embarrassingly late but congratulations on coming out and accepting your truth !! 🎊 🎉
@yes2462
@yes2462 4 месяца назад
Strange this and some of their other videos haven't been recommended to me
@kalkuttadrop6371
@kalkuttadrop6371 5 месяцев назад
6:15 Uh...doesn't she do Mike in Advance?
@o-d-cole4088
@o-d-cole4088 5 месяцев назад
Here's a prime example of why you shouldn't be offended by GTAs representation of gay people. I just replayed Vice City, I'm Australian, there is large radio advert that has an Aussie man clearly talking about having sex with animals (terrible right, lots of innuendos) I can't believe they could represent every Australian as an animal molester. Oh wait, they didn't. They took an Australian stereotype(australians being good with animals - Steve Irwin) and made fun of it and our accent. Do I find it offensive? Of course not, that's what satire is!
@Peasham
@Peasham 5 месяцев назад
Ah yes, other people get to decide whether someone's offended.
@nogoodgod4915
@nogoodgod4915 5 месяцев назад
​​​@@Peashamif you get offended by everything then it loses all meaning. Like "oh there goes Dave, complaining about another thing again" I don't understand what this crazy idea is in media nowadays of "representation" so now by calling a character "dumb' and that character happens to be gay it doesn't mean that they are calling all gay people dumb.
@o-d-cole4088
@o-d-cole4088 4 месяца назад
@nogoodgod4915 Exactly my point.
@gas-drawls
@gas-drawls 4 месяца назад
haven't watched the full video yet but I'm hoping you touch on the amount of times they reference "tr*nnies" in the 3D era games. the recurring jokes always stuck out to me, even when I was a kid and didn't even know what trans people even were lol. i never really thought about it until i was doing a 100% run on GTA:LCS, so many jokes in that one, not to mention whatever was going on with reni on Flashback FM. the 2000s were weird tbh. you're definitely right about the games being a product of their time, honestly the games are still some of my favorite of all time though (also hey, queer GTA fan, subscribed!!)
@MonkeyDBuild
@MonkeyDBuild 5 месяцев назад
When I noticed the voice change I was wondering “yo who is this person?” Thought you got an assistant or someone new on the channel to help out. Glad you came out!! Can’t wait to keep seeing your channel grow and you yourself as a person. I’m pan myself so I’m happy to see you comfortable out in the open. When it comes to the representation thing in GTA and everything good, neutral and (potentially, quite possibly) bad I just don’t think too much about it. I know when it’s done properly and good, know when it’s meant to be seen as parodies and for laughs and when it’s possible done in bad taste due to the times. I found a lot of them funny and laugh at the ridiculousness.
@Els0605
@Els0605 5 месяцев назад
What ??? how long have you been openly trans for ?? ive been watching on and off for a while and never knew that? im a trans girl too and love your video :D
@ProbablyPossum
@ProbablyPossum 5 месяцев назад
I literally had the same thought
@departmentoftheeruseanroya9106
@departmentoftheeruseanroya9106 5 месяцев назад
You had to pay money to find out back in December and wait until February to actually find out
@G_FRE
@G_FRE 4 месяца назад
Hello, based department?
@XOFInfantryman
@XOFInfantryman 2 месяца назад
21:26 I'm like 90% certain that the implication was that Loc "dropped the soap in the shower" so to speak and got used by other prisoners, freddy included with him being into man being irrelevant for the most part Like its hard to grasp for me how one could interpret this as something consensual when the Loc's dialogue sound like one of a traumatised person? That if he was meant to be gay, which im certain he wasn't written to be, it sure doesn't sound like he agreed to that
@Dayashii
@Dayashii 5 месяцев назад
I think it will be really funny if in GTA6 the Lester hacker type character is a Transgirl whom is hyper obsessed with passing and quite literally male fails all the time. Did I mention she wears a black hoodie in the state of Leonida all the time
@mero7731
@mero7731 5 месяцев назад
We need more videos treating gta like the social commentary it is. It’s worthy of real critique and analysis because its art. Congrats on finding yourself 😊
@da420wizard6
@da420wizard6 5 месяцев назад
Bro it’s gta they make of everyone if they didn’t make gay jokes then that would be a problem they can’t pick and choose
@Sodom_and_Gomorrah
@Sodom_and_Gomorrah 5 месяцев назад
Congrats on coming out CH! I'm glad you've taken the first step in bettering yourself.
@venenors5011
@venenors5011 5 месяцев назад
this is exactly the kind of video i have been looking for, actual analysis into the social aspects and commentary the franchise makes on things, especially on topics like this one. keep up the good work!
@Dayashii
@Dayashii 5 месяцев назад
I don’t ever take my car anywhere exept Transfender!
@G_FRE
@G_FRE 5 месяцев назад
Weirdly affirming name for 2004
@MrThegamer695
@MrThegamer695 4 месяца назад
I think it's good to be able to laugh at yourself from time to time. Rockstar takes no prisoners. They make fun of hillbillies, politicians (D and R), celebrities, hippies, young people, old people, cops, government agencies, gun nuts, religions, atheists, and probably a ton more that I'm forgetting. The only line that Rockstar refuses to cross is any line that would get them pulled from shelves.
@monytontana5184
@monytontana5184 5 месяцев назад
Idk what's considered transphobic anymore, but that Rapodite commercial was outta poket 😂 ("go from Brad to Brenda in a jif") it's STILL in San Andreas to this day! I'm trans myself, but I think it's all light hearted. Their whole image is "making fun of American culture" and LGBTQ+ representation is a big part of that.
@YOMARTINPRODUCTIONS
@YOMARTINPRODUCTIONS 5 месяцев назад
The GTA fandom must be one of the most conservative fandoms out there. You can see it for the amount of dislikes this video has.
@MotherGapshin12
@MotherGapshin12 5 месяцев назад
I hope we get more positive queer references in GTA 6, I mean it would be fun to get a drag race parody reference on ingame tv. Honestly if Trevor had grown up in a better environment he could be a good representation of a rural queer
@rogueraccoon1840
@rogueraccoon1840 5 месяцев назад
I get the feeling Sweet baby Inc and the sensitivity mob wouldn't like it cause already they complained about any gay jokes and Trans jokes. Like seriously that's what GTA is about, it's a satire on real life so.of course they're gonna make fun of everyone. Everyone just too soft these days.
@da420wizard6
@da420wizard6 5 месяцев назад
@@rogueraccoon1840literally this dude in the video being soft like everyone gets made fun of equally if we don’t make fun of gay people that’s when it’s a problem cause we saying a group of people are above jokes which nun are
@FeralCabbage
@FeralCabbage 5 месяцев назад
@@da420wizard6I don’t think she’s saying queer people get made fun of more than other any group, she’s just focusing on queer people specifically. Who knows, she might delve into other groups later.
@unclekaz3153
@unclekaz3153 4 месяца назад
​@@rogueraccoon1840 do you realise you are getting mad at an imaginary scenario?
@tristengoetz7911
@tristengoetz7911 5 месяцев назад
25:26 les beans as a double entendre for lesbians was not the only joke thrown in it’s also supposed to be a triple entendre because of the saying “flicking the bean” “les beans”= two or more beans
@ismarwinkelman5648
@ismarwinkelman5648 4 месяца назад
Who is the new narrator?
@gulchbrammer1967
@gulchbrammer1967 4 месяца назад
It's the same person
@ismarwinkelman5648
@ismarwinkelman5648 4 месяца назад
@@gulchbrammer1967 Nope, this new voice sounds way different
@cynoflads
@cynoflads 4 месяца назад
52:25 Those NPC are labeled as drag queens/cross-dressers in the Rockstar Movie editor they have been mislabeled as trans people for many a year, which is understandable, but still, they are labeled, as I said before, crossdressers.
@GoldnJade5
@GoldnJade5 5 месяцев назад
I love this channel and the way you examine all the lore in the GTA Series. I especially appreciate that you have a very laid back and relaxed presentation style. Your videos are awesome to have on in the background for multitasking. Just subscribed and signed up for your Patreon too. P.S. congrats on sharing your truth! Wishing nothing but the best!
@spads3971
@spads3971 5 месяцев назад
I think there was a female npc in San Andreas that says something like: "I mess with girls and guys, so?" I think it's the purple 31 girl
@rangerv1
@rangerv1 5 месяцев назад
There’s also a male npc who says he slept with a scotsman, i think he’s the asian red shirt guy in sf
@lovefurypassionenergy
@lovefurypassionenergy 4 месяца назад
@@rangerv1 This line is seared into my brain for whatever reason lol
@mep2879
@mep2879 5 месяцев назад
At first i was confused who was doing this video until they broke the news. Interesting video.
@sovjejkies
@sovjejkies 5 месяцев назад
I don’t get why u get offended by these jokes. We all know gta makes fun of every American stereotype. I’m bisexual and I never got offended, I actually laugh at these jokes lmao
@phantom8926
@phantom8926 5 месяцев назад
Because God forbid anybody have a sense of humor and laugh at jokes about their favorite people (protected class).
@ws4715
@ws4715 5 месяцев назад
I think the White Stallion bar in VCS might have been inspired directly (or indirectly via the fashion that followed) by Kenneth Anger's short film Scorpio Rising from 1963. The film depicts gay sadomasochistic nazi bikers. I'm no expert but I believe it was around for the start of the leathermen scene which people might today only recognise from the village people. It could also simply be a play on the White Horse Inn one of the oldest gay bars in California.
@Stone_SeashoresWall
@Stone_SeashoresWall 5 месяцев назад
Y'know, I'll also take you up on sharin' me GTA perspectives as a non-binary being and very lifelong GTA player. At the start things went over my head, I was young. Now, I can see certain things and shake me head. That goes for a lot of things in the series, actually. I mean, GTA 1 has El Burro and the level right before him is just a massive pile of Chinese stereotypes. But GTA 1 was a very edgy 90s game, intentionally so, they intentionally stoked the fires of controversy to advertise the game. I mean, in 1 you kill the First Lady by bombing a hospital AND assassinate the President of the United States! It's ridiculous. A lot of GTA is. But, over the years, GTA has matured from that in many ways. The same franchise that did that later made the mission That Someone Special. And that maturity is reflected in the way it treats people. I don't think they're gonna lose that edge, not fully. It is kinda baked into the franchise on a DNA-level, but, at the very least, it'll be better than it was. Also, I hate t' tell ya this, but in GTA San Andreas and Vice City there's 3 Ped-types that're... really not great depictions of trans women (that I know of). Reading on is really not for the faint of heart when it comes to transphobia. The Vice City ped has a line of dialogue that's one of those classic shitty trans jokes. The black prostitute model has one of those 'I used to be a man' lines (I think the exact phrasing is 'My name's Pearl [voice changes to masculine], but I used to be Brian'). And in San Andreas there's two, I'll start with the ped wfystew, who's notation at least genders her correctly (white female young stewardess). Her dialogue is a bunch of 'flamboyant gay' dialogue with references to transness some choice lines include: 'Holy hormones!', 'Leapin' estrogen', 'Get out of my way I'm post-op.', 'Ah I'm too female to die!' and 'Had my operation during refueling.' (I do wish I was making a tasteless joke, but I'm very serious). The other is a... homeless drunken trans woman in San Fierro. Her internal name is 'swmotr1' which itself is transphobic as that mean 'street white male old tramp 1'. Her appearance is... certainly an appearance for a trans woman modeled by the people who wrote that first character and her dialogue is mostly drunken nonsense, but a few times she self-identifies as 'an old man' (I somehow doubt that's intentional messin' with gender). Most charitable interpretation I could give is that the dialogue wasn't originally intended for that specific Ped. Yeah, I'm very much hopin' things that that'll never happen again.
@rangerv1
@rangerv1 5 месяцев назад
I think i saw somewhere that the last ped was supposed to be a girl but was edited and made male i think it was on the cutting room floor
@Stone_SeashoresWall
@Stone_SeashoresWall 5 месяцев назад
@@rangerv1 Hmm, issue with that theory is her ID. If she was a different ped concept with a changed voice file she wouldn't have the 'm', like how the lad who got the cut young Persian man's dialogue has the ID 'SWMORI' based on his model rather than his words. But I'd much rather imagine it was somethin' like that. And it'd make sense with the... 'quality' of wfystew's dialogue.
@rangerv1
@rangerv1 5 месяцев назад
@@Stone_SeashoresWall yeah i did listen to the homeless ped’s lines and it’s very clearly supposed to be a cis dude
@spectre.shadows
@spectre.shadows 4 месяца назад
There's also the Crisp Twins from GTA:L69 which I read somewhere that one of them are supposed to be gay and hits on the main character but I think it's just him calling the character gorgeous again and because of their real world inspirations
@rangerv1
@rangerv1 5 месяцев назад
Watch dogs 2 has a really good depiction of castro
@forrestxvii
@forrestxvii 9 дней назад
Bernie was always a goat, Tony too. They up there with my favorite GTA IV characters. Tony is Tony, end of story. Bernie is goated because he might be a stereotype of gays but he’s understanding of Niko and funny asf I kinda wish he became a regular friend after the story you could go out and do shit with. Ngl
@Yes-qj4bi
@Yes-qj4bi 4 месяца назад
Bro's literally Florian om!
@elmandarin1002
@elmandarin1002 5 месяцев назад
Anyone remember that Robot Chicken sketch with Gay Tony?
@tristengoetz7911
@tristengoetz7911 5 месяцев назад
22:46 not to be a jerk but I believe you meant Nelson from the Simpsons due to the “Ha Ha!” Track you played. Ralph is the “I’m in danger” meme kid. If you read this thank you for that and have a good day!
@o-d-cole4088
@o-d-cole4088 5 месяцев назад
Honestly I'm pretty worried about the new GTA. Modern cancel culture is ruining comedy especially in satirical representations of modern society. It's not meant to be taken seriously, just like every other type of person represented in the gta games. I think it's unfair to say stereotypically dressed gay guys in leather is offensive to gay people as they used to/still dress exactly like that. I mean look at Relax - Frankie goes to hollywood, so many of the same stereotypes but it's a supportive message. GTA just jokes about everyone it's supposed to offend you just like it would offend any white trailer trash when they see they're represented as bums in the games or black people represented as gangsters or every asian person being a member of the Yakuza and every italian owning a pizza shop. They're all HARMLESS stereotypes. Not all of them are mirror reflections of the real world and that's the point.
@Peasham
@Peasham 5 месяцев назад
"It's not meant to be serious, but it's still good representation" Which is it?
@o-d-cole4088
@o-d-cole4088 5 месяцев назад
@Peasham It's a satirical representation of society, always has been. I believe it accomplishes this quite well.
@legbot124
@legbot124 5 месяцев назад
I didn’t even know i was watching congrats on the transition
@zues2011
@zues2011 4 месяца назад
I recall seeing in the GTA Wiki that Asuka Kasen slept (off-screen) with the protagonist of GTA for the GameBoy, i’ve never actually played that title, but i think it adds to her character being Bi
@AZOOZ4A
@AZOOZ4A 4 месяца назад
52:37 man how this is harmful like this game is so messed up fucked up and Strange this is Literally part of it how removing it could be a Something positive also they are npc so whats the harm in keeping them ?
@HorribleRedDeadEdits
@HorribleRedDeadEdits 8 дней назад
It’s a game that makes fun of everyone
@daxernsthenobody
@daxernsthenobody 3 месяца назад
Wait, Kate McCleary isn't ace?
@its_neck
@its_neck 5 месяцев назад
see I had been wondering if you were trans for a few months now cause I noticed the voice change, congrats though! I'm glad you're finally feeling comfortable
@fluffskunk
@fluffskunk 5 месяцев назад
Haven't been watching for long, but congrats on your epiphany!
@Love2Musgrave
@Love2Musgrave 5 месяцев назад
I don't think anything different of you i am glad that you are open with this and aren't afraid to speak out about it that is very admirable
@Akodoescrap
@Akodoescrap 5 месяцев назад
Happy for the video!! Makes me wonder how LGBTQ+ reorientation will be handled in GTA VI though…
@vik7396
@vik7396 5 месяцев назад
trans masc and bi here, love the video and congrats on the transition :) it takes a lot of work and reflection to realize these things and i'm proud and happy that you're here. been a fan of gta since gta 3 (was 6/7, had no real business playing it but my older siblings were into it). there's a lot of stuff i know to be bad and questionable in regards to queer depictions, but after a while i just accepted things as they were. sure there's characters that are outdated stereotypes but yknow what? some of them are fun. there's even some characters i know aren't intended to be queer but have moments where you go, "yknow what, that Is kinda gay." i don't trust rockstar to be 100% perfect w representation and lord knows there's some real ghouls in the fanbase, but i still love the franchise. cishet people shouldn't get to be the only ones having fun being a maniac in a video game
@tristengoetz7911
@tristengoetz7911 5 месяцев назад
24:50 idk why but i always thought that the bikers were originally just gay and then someone from PR came in and said “you can’t go to a Miami/Vice City gay bar and shoot it up just because they’re gay”, even though the point of the mission was to show that Lance was lying to Vic about who stole the coke making the unjust gay bar shooting more tragic like imagine how bad you would’ve felt that you blasted up a gay bar because your brother lied to you. Like I remember Marty and his boys being way more racist than those bikers in my opinion… so therefore they decided to make them actually irredeemable and ironically at the same time homosexual because I bet that would piss off a white supremacist to be called gay… idk just my take on it
@DiogenesUlyanov
@DiogenesUlyanov 5 месяцев назад
Im happy for you. Congratulations on coming out! Ive always felt more safe with your content than others who play this game. Youve never been reactionary.
@rangerv1
@rangerv1 5 месяцев назад
The White Stallions is also a reference to the infamous blue oyster club scenes from the police academy movies
@KnownAsAlex_
@KnownAsAlex_ 5 месяцев назад
All my congrats to you and as a cis male, I found your video pretty informative and pleasant to watch too ^^ Respect and keep it up!
@Error-000
@Error-000 5 месяцев назад
You know what grinds my gears about media coverage of Rockstar games is that they always seem to focus on the supposed worst possible narrative angle. But when you really stop and think about it, Rockstar never shies away from portraying reality, in a satirized manner, especially when it comes to the cities their games are set in. They were pushing boundaries long before it became a trend in the industry. Think about it, which other game series features such a diverse range of nationalities and races among its protagonists and showcasing gay and trans characters in their plots or world. Only thing they were missing is a female protagonist in the modern 3D and HD games, but hay we got Lucia now in GTA 6. As a proud Slavic guy from the Balkans, Niko stands out as one of the first, and perhaps only, Balkan characters to take the lead in a major AAA billion dollar gaming franchise.
@MATA-mz1db
@MATA-mz1db 4 месяца назад
I didn't know that you, as LGBTs, have to approach certain media such as video games with caution of being offended or hurt since i never bothered i only consume, and i dont mind or care if they make few stereotypes or jokes about my people, I'm actually amazed how creative they are especially GTA😂. But you know what it's nice to know that everybody is different & take different approaches to things in life. Loved your video btw❤
@tristengoetz7911
@tristengoetz7911 5 месяцев назад
24:00 i always thought Kasuke was gay but married because he was a Yakusa boss and to save face and reputation amidst rumors …but I’m almost 99.9% sure Kenji was gay because the hyper sexualized Asuka literally said “it’s so like Kenji to be playing with my toys” most likely referring to vibrations but also showing Asuka did see Claude as a sexual endeavor due to the double entendre she views Claude as both a tool for success and a toy for pleasure. As for Kenji not hitting on Claude it’s probably because after the toy line he probably assumed Claude was straight with Asuka and therefore not interested so he was more mean to him or Claude just wasn’t Kenji’s type. Also idk if it was the lisp but even when I was little I thought that Kenji was gay.
@atti_tube
@atti_tube 5 месяцев назад
as a gay man and certified gta enjoyer for nearly 20 years now, i just hope they don't lose their edge when it comes to the writing and crafting the game world. honestly i like being able to laugh at myself and aspects of my identity, and mildly offensive depictions clearly meant in jest that are more or less relegated to the background of the in-game world will never bother me. having said that, characters like rudy do bother me a bit... something about when the queerness of a character is used to highlight their most negative traits and to perpetuate negative stereotypes rubs me wrong. in general, though, i just want my identity to be treated like any other and don't mind the satirical spin the writers have occasionally given to certain aspects/stereotypes about homosexuality. given the progression of things since 2013 and earlier, i absolutely anticipate that there will be more positive lgbt+ representation and probably a lot of digs at right-wing homophobia (especially considering the setting) in vi.
@TheCollapse410
@TheCollapse410 5 месяцев назад
Well they already said they are definitely toning it back, losing the "harsh" humor, be more inclusive (slang for bad writers doing bad things with characters) and are going a dif direction. Prepare for a beautiful looking lame a game.
@atti_tube
@atti_tube 5 месяцев назад
@TheCollapse410 i'm holding out hope that they haven't sanitized their humor for the new game. things wouldn't be the same without it.
@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook
@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook 5 месяцев назад
@@TheCollapse410 The trailer they've shown has been nothing but a gratuitous display of American vanity, stupidity and trend chasing that makes them look more disconnected than anything. Rockstar hasn't lost their edge.
@kinginray1
@kinginray1 5 месяцев назад
I’m a straight male and never knew you was trans nor will that affect me from being a fan of your work or a supporter of yours. This video was another great video and I learned something we okay these games so much and over look things. The Ballard of gay tony is my favorite dlc and wish it was a full game it had so much depth and variety. I’m not similar with all the sexualities and switching to Trevor sometimes and he have a dress threw me off but seeing it from your eyes and words now I understand Trevor a lot better then just thinking he weird he still is weird but I understand him more. Video was dope and no one should judge or not support you just because of your sexuality should be based off your work that’s it
@unclelandy
@unclelandy 5 месяцев назад
In the end of the day, she is a person just like us. Her coming out only means that she’s happier and found herself. I’m not the best mouthpiece for LGBTQ since I’m a straight Male myself. But it’s always pleasing to see people showing respect to others and just treating others like they should be, humans.
@VoltaicDegree11
@VoltaicDegree11 5 месяцев назад
Congrats on coming out and being true to who you are CH
@alex-h3x1b
@alex-h3x1b 5 месяцев назад
as a gay guy, i never really used to care about LGBT representation in gta, but i suppose i would hear a thing here and there that would upset me. in somewhat more recent years, when i played VCS for the first time, i absolutely adored reni, and genuinely felt sad when other characters would be weirded out or judge them, or even make fun of others for being in a relationship with them (diego mendez comes to mind. or was it armando? idk the blue one). i am glad that vic is (mostly) accepting of them and their interactions, especially towards the end, are pretty endearing. now on to gta 4, which i played for the first time even more recently, last year in fact, when i saw bernie i thought "oh, not another gay stereotype", and... that's what he was. i do like how accepting of him niko turns out being (despite the using the VERY common line of "it's your choice"), but honestly him as a character was nothing more than a stereotype to me and he had nothing else going on for him. being gay wasn't just a trait, it was his whole personality which i think is bad representation. after 4 i played TLaD and TBoGT also for the first time. i really didn't like tony on my first playthrough, i think in my mind, my expectation from a first sight was that he was just another bernie and that's it, so i never really paid too much attention to him. though, after playing through the game and going back for the gold medals, i was also watching the cutscenes just to refresh my memory (since it had been a while since i finished the story), and i ended up liking him (and the story overall) a lot more. yes, there were still those stereotypes, but underneath all that there's an actual character. it's still not perfect, the stereotype is still a huge part of his character, and there's a lot of discrimination from other characters, but it was a step in the right direction. i'm looking forward to gta 6, but i'm also being apprehensive. i would love more representation and an actual character whose personality doesn't revolve around being flamboyant, but we might also get the same treatment, we'll just have to wait and see. thank you for the great video!! ❤
@OnceWasSomething
@OnceWasSomething 5 месяцев назад
Walked into this video, saw the dislikes, I know this is gonna be a BANGER.
@hugosenshida999
@hugosenshida999 4 месяца назад
how many?
@W2acvcf
@W2acvcf 5 месяцев назад
This was a great video, I wish all the best on your journey! There's also a rollerskating NPC in VC, usually seen around the beach who is quite obviously gay, you can find them in gta vc npc quotes videos. His dialogue is pretty flamboyant and you could say the same about his outfit, a neon croptop and shorty shorts though it wasn't completely out of the norm for straight men also to wear similar clothes during the glorious 80s so it might just be a case of "it was the style at the time", who knows. I think he's a pretty typical flamboyant gay man typical in media from the early 2000s, not necessarily negative but definitely stereotypical 😅
@rangerv1
@rangerv1 5 месяцев назад
It’s also mentioned that Brother Marcus from gta 1 has a drag persona
@Kindlyspace57
@Kindlyspace57 4 месяца назад
a lot of the ones that are names of companies i don't mind at all, almost every in the game company has some kind of crude name making fun of any group of people. But the tossers thing i must correct, i'd always thought it was for the UK definition given GTA is made in Scotland. I didn't even know tosser had any other meaning beyond just being another word for idiot in other parts of the world.
@BigDaddy-vk6rv
@BigDaddy-vk6rv 5 месяцев назад
This video definitely opened up a new perspective on you! I kinda feel like Alex Chilton, another one of Niko's girlfriends, could have made the list. Just like Carmen, you can take her to the strip club and she'll be watching the girls, unlike other girls like Katie or Kiki. Maybe in the future you can dive deeper into this on both game characters and yourself; educating more people out there, because I'm certainly one of the many people who loves gay people yet am very VERY clueless on so many things!
@syria0110
@syria0110 5 месяцев назад
Alex would have been an interesting character to look at, but I feel like her ability to go to the club and dialogue after Niko gets a private dance is due to more curiosity of how someone of a different lifestyle than her lives (assuming that the strippers are working to make ends meet, while she hasn't had to worry about not having money). It would be a fascinating juxtaposition to her viewing herself as a "liberated woman" while also holding some traditional gender views, specifically her mentioning that her father raises the limits on her credit cards and dating men who are extremely wealthy as well. I think the stripper Peach could have been talked about during the GTA V section, given that she has a considerably deeper voice than the other strippers (being voiced by a man), implying that she may be transgender
@luftwaffle173
@luftwaffle173 5 месяцев назад
Since you've mentioned the OG LOC's prison "Gig". I'd like to put some light on implied sexual assaults present in both RDR2 and GTAV. I won't get into details as you can easily look it up online but I've just wanted to say: Although I have myself not been a victim of SA I believe that the way Rockstar used it as jokes in the past is one of the darkest parts of this franchise.
@rangerv1
@rangerv1 5 месяцев назад
I wonder what the comments are going to be like
@TheCollapse410
@TheCollapse410 5 месяцев назад
A lot of love with ppl like me chiming in my un wanted opinion lol. Just cause it blows my mind how crazy it all is. Ppl who don't achieve much can now be cheered and proud cause they did something with their genitals. I could understand if the entire entertainment education and government wasn't cheering for it. Then I'd be like wow, good for u. But to be so proud of literally just having sex doesn't compute with me. And obsessing with it to the point of shoe horning it into EVERYTHING is crazy. Why don't we focus on gays that did great things, or going after ACTUAL gay hate or even just helping homeless gay ppl or something. So much wasted energy on just being gay. That's it. And by gay I mean all the things. But instead of housing a gay homeless vet we cheer cause GTA put a gay character in it. I just don't understand. But again, it's unwanted lol. But RU-vid put this video up so I'll interact I guess...
@c0ntriL
@c0ntriL 5 месяцев назад
I cannot tell if this is just a bit or the vid or what. ...Is CH actually trans now? I'm confused, genuinely..
@hugosenshida999
@hugosenshida999 4 месяца назад
she is
@c0ntriL
@c0ntriL 4 месяца назад
@@hugosenshida999 Oh, okay.
@jime2568
@jime2568 3 месяца назад
I like that you talk about the first 2 games and london
@georgediaz1259
@georgediaz1259 5 месяцев назад
Im calling it now. With the release of GTA VI itll be the new trans stereotype game like how Fallout New Vegas is. Purely cause of the playable female protagonist and how relatively calm folks have been about having a playable woman in a GTA game all things considered.
@tristengoetz7911
@tristengoetz7911 5 месяцев назад
26:41 Reni always confused me when I was younger… now I just call him/her androgynous because that was the term for people like Reni back in the day. But like Florian/Bernie they helped me understand there are people out there like this and they’re not hurting anyone so why bother them.
@Chineseisntalanguageapparently
@Chineseisntalanguageapparently 5 месяцев назад
Man for someone who’s supposed to be so woke, you sure are good at seeing offensive things where they’re not
@diesemautokerl2181
@diesemautokerl2181 5 месяцев назад
I think you seem to miss the point, OG Loc is insecure about his homosexuality in prison, its not offensive or homophobic and that's that. The trans character in Vice City Stories IS offensive and transphobic however, that one is genuinely problematic.
@NAOTENONOMECRIATIVO
@NAOTENONOMECRIATIVO 5 месяцев назад
Nowadays it would be problematic, in 2006 it wasn't
@diesemautokerl2181
@diesemautokerl2181 5 месяцев назад
@NAOTENONOMECRIATIVO No it was always problematic, it being a different year doesn't mean it isn't. Time isn't a judge of that. However his reasoning for OG Locs mission being homophobic doesn't make much sense for many reasons
@masonharvath-gerrans832
@masonharvath-gerrans832 5 месяцев назад
@@diesemautokerl2181*her reasoning. She’s a trans woman, not a man
@diesemautokerl2181
@diesemautokerl2181 5 месяцев назад
@@masonharvath-gerrans832 Fair enough, but that still doesn't change my original points
@xCat5782x
@xCat5782x 5 месяцев назад
Awesome video CH! Been following the channel for a little while now, and I appreciate hearing your unique perspective on this topic. Glad to hear you're finding yourself, and very excited to follow the content you continue to make!
@nicholas5129
@nicholas5129 5 месяцев назад
I don't understand your life choices, but I do hope now you will find peace in life.
@departmentoftheeruseanroya9106
@departmentoftheeruseanroya9106 5 месяцев назад
This is probably the most leveled headed comment in this whole section. The rest are people with only 1 comment who are only here for a trans echo chamber
@Maddiedoggie
@Maddiedoggie 5 месяцев назад
@@departmentoftheeruseanroya9106 I don't understand your life choices if you think an audience supporting someone for coming out as trans is an echo chamber. I hope you find your peace some day and learn to love others despite their differences.
@phantom8926
@phantom8926 5 месяцев назад
​@@Maddiedoggiewhen the support over shadows or has no push back, it becomes an echo chamber.
@Maddiedoggie
@Maddiedoggie 5 месяцев назад
​@@phantom8926 Wrong. An echo chamber is when I say something disrespectful, or something everybody else in a space disagrees with, and play victim when people get upset. It's like telling a group of scientists the Earth is flat and blaming them for getting annoyed at saying something really stupid.
@departmentoftheeruseanroya9106
@departmentoftheeruseanroya9106 4 месяца назад
@@Maddiedoggie That’s the left wing definition, the ACTUAL Oxford dictionary definition of an echo chamber is: “an environment in which a person encounters only beliefs or opinions that coincide with their own, so that their existing views are reinforced and alternative ideas are not considered.” Babe you are only here because he “came out”, you don’t care about the content, as yoy only have 2-3 comments.
@rangerv1
@rangerv1 5 месяцев назад
It’s mentioned that Giogio Forelli crossdresses
@otibhooboh1944
@otibhooboh1944 5 месяцев назад
Renie could be inspired by a mix of Ziggy Stardust (David Bowie) and Grace Jones; a cis Black woman of Jamaican decent? It’s too obvious to me but just wanted to put that out there!
@kevkevtheloverboy
@kevkevtheloverboy 5 месяцев назад
Congrats on your coming out, im trans myself. Love your videos and i’ll definitely keep on watching, hope everything goes smoothly for you mama ❤️
@mmaammiinne1
@mmaammiinne1 5 месяцев назад
Why are you deleting comments and blocking people? If you want people to have a voice, then don't silence them. Or is it because you only allow what fits your agenda?
@departmentoftheeruseanroya9106
@departmentoftheeruseanroya9106 5 месяцев назад
He’s gone Far Left, there’s nothing you can do
@ArthurMorgan18993
@ArthurMorgan18993 5 месяцев назад
There is no evidence of them doing that lol
@Immortalizz02
@Immortalizz02 5 месяцев назад
@@departmentoftheeruseanroya9106 Once again people thinking basic human respect is "left" or political
@DlK69
@DlK69 5 месяцев назад
Calling a Investor (for being a Investor) more evil then child rap1ng S3rialkiller is leftism... And not even of the normal Variante... That's simply modern day hardcore leftism. ​@@Immortalizz02
@Jontage99
@Jontage99 5 месяцев назад
For people who are being just outright hateful, and contributing nothing to the discussion, I don't see why she shouldn't block out such comments
@miguelpasamano4995
@miguelpasamano4995 4 месяца назад
That's just 1 reason the 3d universe was better
@bohoasa
@bohoasa 5 месяцев назад
as a trans nonbinary queer person, i love this video and makes me more excited for gta 6 and their representation of LGBTQ+ folk
@FriendlyChemist907
@FriendlyChemist907 5 месяцев назад
Even when I was a kid the OG loc thing left a bad taste in my mouth.
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