GM Flash came out with the 2nd Generation of Hip Hop. He definitely took it to a higher level. IMHO, so was Bambatta. Theodore should be properly credited with scratching and flash the quick mix. I believe Mario, Herc, and others are the original and 1st Generation of Hip Hop. The reason I claimed this is because in 75 when I was 1st introduced to this music in the Bronx, Herc and Mario were the local stars in the Bronx. There were others, but they were the one most popular during that time.
@@chuckanthanio you are saying the EXACT THING that I'm saying. Flash likes to fudge dates and throw 1974 out there. I believe he's the 2nd generation as well (1975/ 1976). He ain't from the '71 to '74 group. That's Herc, Mario, Kool D, Smokey. I also believe Breakout is from the '75 or '76 class as well.
Flash don't mention DJ Smokey and Flash used to be his record boy! He don't even mention Mean Gene and Flash started out with Gene with Theodore being right there. He doesn't mention Theodore. He doesn't mention Lovebug Starski either. There were also DJ's in RIver Park Towers that were doing their thing in the mid 70's ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-y43t5K108Yo.html. All of them were founding fathers, it wasn't just three! Flash has a agenda. It makes me wonder why he suddenly added DJ Breakout to the convo
Flash has mentioned Mean Gene in interviews, he called him "the neighborhood bully." I haven't heard anyone disagree with that statement EXCEPT for Mean Gene. I asked Disco Bee if Flash was ever Mario's record boy. Bee said no. Then he said he'd do one better he called Flash and asked him and Flash said no. There's a picture of Mario with a bunch of ppl, in the background is a dude wearing a hood on his head. Some ppl say that it's Flash. Even Bee was like Yo, that looks like him, lol. But he and Flash determined that it wasn't him because even back then Flash used wore a Kangol all the time. I asked Bee if Flash worked with Smokey, he said he doesn't recall him or them working with Smokey.
@@bxdale83 I been reading your comments for years brother. I believe yall brothers are older than me by about 4 to 8 years(maybe older than that) Im only 53 plus Im from Brooklyn.....nothing to do with uptown. Brother, you are looking at this in a similar fashion as me. The recent conversations over the past 8 or 9 years has rocked the foundation of this Trinity concept of Bam, Herc and Flash. The injection of Disco King Mario and Kool D has forced the door to open for other names to be looked at in that '71 to '74 period. That's the key period. You add more known names to that period, then you start to navigate away from three individuals doing something miraculous. Now the prestige for only three people lessens because more names come into the conversation. Flash loves the prestige of being viewed as this awesome force to hip hop as a culture and music genre. No doubt he will always be respected and spoken of in history, however, that will diminish as other names, contributors, and innovators before him start to be mentioned.
Maybe flash doesn't get along with them..its hard to give somebody props if they're your ops..im just speculating though..as far a breakout and barron they've always mentioned them from the north bronx
@@markskillz8004 He doesn't mention Mean Gene as a founding father of hip hop is the point I'm making. I never heard anyone say that Flash was Mario's record boy. Well if he said that about Smokey then someone is lying
There was a battle at Monroe HS on Jan 27, 79, between Mario n Flash. I was present at this party. Mario had Busy Bee, Dr.Jekyll n Mr. Hyde and Theodore on the 1's n 2's. Flash had just, Mel, Ness n Creole that night. Bam was present. Great night of hip hop!
Once Kool Herc said @44:45 "I'm the Founding Father, I'm The Inventor [of Hip-Hop]" he lost ALL credibility right there. The same goes for Grandmaster Flash by publicly ignoring the existence of King Mario and Grandmaster Flowers' direct influence on him and how his name was inspired by the name of Grandmaster Flowers. Flash elevates himself as a "Father of Hip-Hop" culture, which is said to be made up of 5 elements, but nonetheless Grandmaster Flash goes on record and says “You know what bugs me, they put hip-hop with graffiti. How do they intertwine?“ These words of his are published in 2004 in the book titled "That's The Joint: The Hip-Hop Studies Reader." When you say and do the contradictory and fraudulent things Flash does you also lose complete credibility.
It was Bambatta that condensed all of the street arts into the term Hip Hop. GF is entitled to his own opinion as a DJ. A lot of graf artists didn't deal with funky music or breakin at all and that is still true. Bambatta's Zulu Nation concept (5 elements + Peace & Unity) was his original creation.Everyone knows this.
I have a funny feeling we are going to find out that Grand Master Flash got his whole style from Grand Master Flowers, which is the person he stole his name from. There is old school DJs from Brooklyn, who are saying Flowers was doing the Quick Mix in 71-72.
@OGTKCole I've interviewed Flowers ppl at length. Flowers specialized in blending. Everyone said he was the most extraordinary and talented deejay of his era. No one said anything about quick mixing though. He was the first master of the mix on the street.
The math ain't hard to do people. Disco King Mario was throwing "jams" in and around Bronxdale back in 71. B-boying, Top rocking and DJs saying slick rhymes over the beats originated THERE. Any so-called founding father who doesn't acknowledge that is Frontin' to the FULLEST. Straight CAPPIN'. You hear me Flash and Herc? You hear me KRS and Bambooty? Peace to DJ Phase and DJ Kool Dee and the Original B-Boy Sasa for keeping the facts straight and true. Peace also to the creator of this channel. We don't even need to look nowhere else to get the authentic FACTS.👊🏽. And btw, the so-called negros are the true Jews, bloodline hebrew israelites and the indigenous "latinos" who descend from Arawak and Tainos...and the indigenous so-called indians make up the 12 tribes of ancient Israel. The ONLY chosen people of The Most High. As the scriptures say .." The Scepter (rulership) will NOT depart from Israel untll the Messiah Comes". Miss me with all that johnny-come-lately religion, plantation christianity, islam, rastafari, judaism etc.
Krs and that temple of hip hop needs to be taken down and not supported the truth is not there and Herc is not the founding father of anything I also want to know who
Flash doesn't mention Disco King Mario, or Kool D because his ego won't allow it. I find that Flash fudges dates a little. He makes people believe that extends back to '74. I can't see it. I think Flash's timeline starts at '75/'76. That takes him out of the timeline of Kool D, Disco King Mario, Smokey and Kool Herc. The truth has been coming out in degrees.
Flash said he took what herc was doing and leveled it up! Herc or flash aint saying they was the first djs, herc is documented by many (including legends in the scene) as being the first to repeat the breakbeats, there was loads of djs before herc and mario ect but looping the breaks is what changed the game for all music genre's and djing in general...
@@ev8318 Forgive me for not clarifying when I said Flash was out of their timeline. What U should've said was when Mario was playing with Kool D(before he took on the name Disco King), Flash wasnt out there yet. That's what I meant by using the words "out of the timeline". The dates kind of of point out that Kool D, Disco King Mario, and Kool Herc were doing their thing a solid 3 or 4 years before Flash got out to doing his thing. However, he innovated a change in DJ'ing that was never done before and made an indelible mark. It jumped him uo their on to the level of DJ's thar were his seniors in the game
@@ev8318 what he called the quick mix theory. The ability to continuously pick up on the same stop/start point and not have gap in the flow of the music
Like u said fam, flash and krs one didn’t really know Mario. Also culturally, there is a disconnect with native New Yorkers and immigrants. Natives always honor the ones before, based on bloodline and the access to the people we love. We always honor our ancestors. The immigrants separate themselves from there roots, and have a me, myself, and I attitude that still exist today. It is up to us, we already won! The more they dishonor, the more our truth comes out. Peace n luv…
Spot on brother. Me being black American I always honor our ancestors. I do find that black natives of America does the same. Immigrants don't because they have no connection or they always want to hijack FBA stuff and twist it as theirs. I say fu... all to those immigrants. Busta Rhymes and Fat joe showed us how alot of them think. Have you ever noticed during black History month, these teathers/immigranfs never salute black American inventors. They never wear shirs of black American Icons like Muhammed Ali or any other black Americans. They will wear a Bob Marley shirt though.
Flash allowed Nu Wave Whites into Hip Hop. Nu Wave White kids broke away from Punk Rock because of its racism and Misogyny and they embraced Hip Hop they didn't stop doing Nu Wave but they loved Hip Hop. Flash was an innovator but his main impact was that he was a a savant. His talent was on a whole other level. He was INCREDIBLE.
24:25 Flash timeline has too many inaccuracies. He has a history of pushing his timeline back. He said before he started DJ'ing in 1972. I.e. In his book he said he met Tiny (Marion Frampton) from the Black Spades/Casanovas in 1975 when he threw a jam in Mott Haven Projects and that's when he got cool with the Casanovas but Tiny (in his words) was locked up from 1974-1976
I find Flash has selective memory or he embellishes. Notice he said all these places that he's gonna speak at.......that means honorariums(money). To add the people to the timeline of pre-'73 pushes him out of being the pioneer that he's been propagated to be. If anything he winds up being a witness to the pioneers.
@bxdale83 see if you can find out when he threw parties in Mitchell , well that park by the school, near the highway. Also, he said and showed, how he learned on Fox near 163rd. And how he did jams in Forest. 161 & Tinton.
Damn this is a like a soap opera, so interesting to hear the real peeps who lived these great moments , much respect to the Bronx community and your channel, this information is pure Gold, respect ✊
Flash actually shouts out Mario as a pioneer of HipHop on the "East Side" in his memoir: The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash: My Life, My Beats Hardcover - June 10, 2008
My opinion, there's many founders, but not all of them gained notoriety. And of them who were doing the thing before 79, they're part of the foundation. So I would say Mario deserves to get his credit for what he did. It's simple.
Ok so what I have gathered is. Yes #1. The utter creation of what became into "Hip Hop" was black, black, & black. #2. The Afro-Carribeans shortly after came in, spiced it up, & made it BETTER & marketable 👍 yvw. 😊
When has Black American ever not been the spice? That’s hilarious. We created all great American music forms from country to present day and you think we needed West Indian & Latino influences to “spice things up” and make our music - that has always gone global - global? Yeah ok. 🙄 it’s the audacity of this suggestion that’s insulting.
@@brooklynmedina7676 Hip Hop is 5 elements (not only rap) Black heads in NY ALIENATED the b-boying element back in 77. (Cali heads did it til gangsta rap took over) Let alone the beat-boxing cyphers, graf crews, turntablists. The Boricuas enhanced b-boying & made it marketable. Eventually it went global in the 90's. Asians then went to DOMINATE b-boying contests. Wh1+es, Latinos, even Chicanos hold down the graffiti element til this day. Wh1+e kids are the ones winning all the beatboxing contests since the 90s. If this culture is black, then why are the Asians creating the dope fashion? (Bape, LRG, Nike factories in China? Let alone Supreme or Champion?) Why do black kids dress in wh1+e Skater apparel for over 2 decades now? Why do they wear wh1+e influenced clothing like Gucci, LV, Versace, & Polo? 😂 It's an & has always been an urban collaborative effort. Think about that next time you say hip hop is a black culture, when 75% of the consumers are wh1+e. 😂
Why did you take down the Blackjack video with Mr. Malcolm giving props to Puerto Ricans "Louie the Clown," "Pepe," and the whole 70's Watson Ave family? Is it because, I pointed out the fact that his mention goes against the southern fba narrative that Puerto Ricans were not on the Hip Hop scene from the jump? New York Puerto Ricans are Down by Law, and will always be. I would not be surprised if you put the video back up without Mr. Malcolm's mention...
@random flavor... smh what are you talking about? the video of blackjack in front of 123 speaking about Reggie Malcolm is here at 1:53:17 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a6bCC0xQ-RE.html
@@RandomFlavorYALL SHOULD’VE JUST KEPT YOUR MOUTHS CLOSED! YOU BROUGHT IT ON YOURSELVES! YOU COULD HAVE STAYED IN THE BACKGROUND AND PLAYED YOUR ROLE, INSTEAD YOU WANTED TO DISRESPECT THE GODZ, AND NOW WE GOT TO PUNISH YOU!
That man said that he was going on a tour to tell the history. If he is leaving Mario out and repeating the he, Herc and Bambara are the founding fathers then he is telling lies as well as colonizing. STOP INVITING PEOPLE TO THE COOKOUT.
The Nation of Gods & Earths 5% is BLACK American. It is fully and completely from us. It is not Islamic or Arab or Hebrew or Caucasoid. It is an Amazing original BLACK indigenous creation from North America. And I'm not even in the belief system. I'm just Proud as a BLACK Man.
5%ers say they believe in the "science" of Islam though and beleve much of what muslims belueve so it is indeed rooted in arab religion even if your remix their doctrine.
Peace brother. The Father came out of the mosque-Nation of Islam Temple #7 and took the Supreme Wisdom Lessons of Master Fard Muhammad with him. There is Islamic theology in the Lessons.
@@brooklynstudent73 Peace to you Brother. I am not saying 5% does not have influences from others, everything created does. I am saying that it came out of the Father and the Father came out of America and 5% is NOT Islam or NOI. It is wholly unique and American. It is Free of all oppressive forces. No Arab. No White Man. It is from the Soil of America. FBA must celebrate that. Those who say we have no Culture are just jealous because we have so much.
Finally I'm glad that you broke down "God" only thing CHRIST was a black man prophesied in the old testament that HE would come through the seed of David which is why Joseph was able to enter into the house of David when they reached Bethlehem. Joseph was of the lineage of King David therefore CHRIST is King and Savior far greater than a mere Prophet!!! "Judah" aka Negros/ Black Americans were the Kings in Biblical records. Genesis 49:8 [8]Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee." This is why we are great & hated @ the same time. Would love to speak with you! @ 14:42 this was an Elder @ my church Elder Gabar @ GOCC❤❤
They all started off as Disco DJs. The big problem is that no one can come to a consensus as to what constituted the difference between Disco DJs and Hip=hop DJs. People can't even agree on what Hip-hop is. Everybody has a different opinion. This is why we hearing 71, 72, 73, 75. My personal opinion is it evolved between 75 and 79. But here's the other thing. They were kids just doing their thing. Nobody ever thought that this thing would go global. Nobody was taking note. So now you come at people dan near half a century later asking for exact details and dates. The other thing is tat there was overlap. From what I remember all the DJs played Disco because you talking about a whole night long. We wanna dance with the girls, so of course there's gonna be Disco. They played a variety of music genres. In the parks, nobody getting dressed up. But to go to a club now, it's come dressed to impress. Even some Hip-hop clubs in the 80's had the same rules. No jeans or sneakers. Everybody wanna put things in these neat little boxes, but that ain't how real life works.
I could see why he mixed soul with Disco, being that Philly Soul for the most part, is the genesis to Disco, before Donna Summer. But that still, kinda puts him, talking Flash as somebody who started in the mid 70s. Where he might went from B-Boy straight to DJ. Most likely in '76. I think '75 , he was still in transition.
Hallelujah Praise The Most High God Yahweh/Jehovah!! Bless you and Thank you my Brother for taking the time to acknowledge One and True God Yahweh (God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob), that I also acknowledge, follow and serve. I also believe that we are the Descendants of the biblical and true Jews/ Israelites. I also believe the Bible is about us, was written for us and is about OUR TRUE CULTURE. I ALSO BELIEVE OUR ANCESTORS THAT CAME INTO THIS COUNTRY BY WAY OF SHIP WE'RE OF THE 12 TRIBE ISRAEL AS WRITTEN IN DEUTERONOMY CHAPTER 28. WE ARE NOT THE GENTILES. The Kingdom I'm referring to in my name is the Kingdom of Yeshua Hamashia bka Jesus Christ and His Father Yahweh. There is a GREAT Gospel/Hebrew Hip Hop Artist known as Eshon Burgundy that has a true calling and anointing for making music that teaches the truth about who we are the people and following the Gospel of Yeshua and living for Yahweh. LOOK UP HIS SONG THIRTY THREE THE JOHNNY P CADDY REMIX, THEN FOLLOW HIS MUSIC FROM THERE. Shalom P.S. THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY ANOTHER EXCELLENT BODY OF WORK BRO!!! SALUTE AND GOD BLESS YOU FOR BEING SO PASSIONATE WITH COMMITTED TO FINDING ALL THE FACTS AND TRUTH SURROUNDING THE ORIGIN AND TRUE PIONEERS OF HIP HOP. SALUTE KING✊🏾🙏🏾💪🏾☝🏾✡️👑
I think I can help with these questions….. what year did Mario and them first go to throogs neck projects and what years did Flash live on Dewey in throogs neck ( FRANKIE DINO)..:..:..
It's surreal & sad that 70's un-filtered Bronx Hip Hop culture initially united races & ethnicities, wherein after having passed through so many different hands -- it now is doing the complete opposite. If "Sylvia" would have never believed in "Big Bank Hank," "Master Gee," and "Wonder Mike" -- Rapping would have been just another passing fad, having died out in 1981. I was at all of "Disco King Mario's" Jams in Rosedale Park. His Jams were always F.R.E.S.H, but he did not have the turntable skills that were defining the Hip Hop sound at the time. It was Puerto Rican "Tex DJ Hollywood" that made Disco King Mario's Jams an authentic Hip Hop Jam. Disco King Mario was a real cool dude, and a fixture in the community, but he was not the DJ caliber required of the burgeoning Bronx Hip Hop culture exploding before his eyes. I have fond memories of the jams in Rosedale Park, and sad memories of what ultimately became of Disco King Mario in the early 90's... R.I.P
@@RandomFlavor only you're saying that. DJ Disc King Mario is still the first DJ. And if it wasn't for Mario who is a Black American, no one would know who Tex was.
@@terrell4102 Before Mario got to The Bronx from North Carolina, the culture was already in effect. He is most definitely not the first DJ of Hop Hop. I was born in Soundview, and know the real deal.
Flash is a liar and a snake that needs to be exposed Kool herc ,Bam and flash are frauds Black American Culture birth HipHop these three Caribbean snakes conspired to change history in their favor .
@@AlleKat Yall just leech and call truth lies because you cant refute them. Yall dont know nothing but what some mainstream, commercial, beast system, puppet mouth piece tells yall. Get Smart.
2:20 Breaking is a dance created by Bronx ♠️ Spades in the 70s when Rocking is a dance created by Brooklyn 🇵🇷 Puerto Rocks in the mid 60s from Boogaloo Musix. 🎶💯 Black Spades wasnt the Only Gang in NYC ... there were 100s... Ghetto Brothers had a Rock Band & started doing Latin Rock in the Parks & Streets of the Bronx 💯 while in Brooklyn they was mixing Spanish and English musix in the 70s...They All was using Disco turn tables...All the DJs...So hip hop took the Turn Tables from Disco 💯 the Puerto Rocks DJs in Bklyn then started Mixing Spanish & Reggae in the 80s...its cool 2 know what was happening in the Bronx but what about the other Boros ?? Queens had they Style & so did Harlem....why you think a BBoy crew have a Name like... Rock Steady ?? ...I thought they were BREAKERS 😀😅🤣 When in Brooklyn All the Dance Crew never use the term Breaking...in Bklyn it was always Rocking 💯 thats when hip hop historians messed up....Bronx stay Biting from BKLYN aka Planet Rock... The Birth Place of Legends 🎶💯🎶
A lot of Black Americans had shirts like that to support the diaspora. Also, to me, the different roots are welcomed. It’s just sad to see people take credit away from Black Americans to give credit to other countries when everyone was indulging in Black American culture.
@@xavierrandall but these online experts out of towners are trying to re write the whole movement and never been to nyc nor the bx a day in thier lives 🤷🏾♂️i'm black n proud / I'm totally down for clearling up the MIS INFORMATION & LETS.PULL RECIEPT AFTER RECIEPT lets get the unsung thier flowers n props but all this new.haterads and divisive ness is ridiculous ( only jamaica I've been to ever was jamaica queens for family events and chill weekends ) and its clear half of these experts would have NOT been down nor are built for this real HIPHOP A BX TALE !!! but unique n strange & quite revealing times indeed // yes we all want the culture back / butt .??? FOR AND FROM .
@ The Culture you are focusing on the word "DISCO" too much , disco is just a named that was used because we didn't call it rap or hip-hop back then , we just called it a "JAM". They're going to throw a Jam at such and such park or were you at the Jam last night" That's what we called it, we just took the disco title and some people added it to their names that doesn't mean that they were actually playing at a real discotech
ask Brothers about the at Bronx River Battle between Disco King Mario vs Kool Herc at Bronx River Center if Brother member start with the Dj start the rap game than MC came in than Brothers stop doing breakdances around late 70s , Mario Had MC Soul , Some brothers got mad at Mario he use the word Disco, Brother Hated Disco cause stole our dances the Hustle mess up dances Move up than try claim it
It's On Record Of Flash Saying Herc Was First And If King Trixie Says It Was Winter Why Can't It Be Before The 73" Party. Fact Is Kool Dj Dee Was Before Mario And Ya'll All Quiet As A Mouse About It.
They said in the video that Kool Dee was the 1st with professional DJ set and by his admission he started in 73. What the ppl close to Mario are saying is he was already DJ'ing in 71 in the carriage room in his building but with basic equipment. It has already been stated on this channel years ago that Mario borrowed Kool Dee's equipment before he got his own
I’m not saying you’re lying. I believe that you spoke to him. Just trying to get his age correct. If he is 67 now, and he did the quick mix theory at 15 then he was born in 57.
In early 78 he joined Mario. I was at the party at 123. Weeks later a dude from my Pjs named Doc La Rock joined Mario...Then months later, another dude from my Pj's, DJ Kenny Ken, joined.
Flash think he slick!! kmt!! he don't know all truth comes to the light? That's a deep spirited hate to refuse to give Mario his props!! never liked him!! now I know why!!
@@mih868 He wasnt a headliner dj,if and when he played breakbeats it was after 1976.When i was a teenager nobody never talked about this dude.He didnt have a big rep like the other djs.
Tryna attach this unknown guy to the legacy of hip hop stop it herc started it flash innovated it bam brought it downtown and on tour around the world its that simple where was this mario guy the whole time 1970 something my ass you were not born who ever the narrator of this video is stick to the rap history side of it that's your territory
The problem is many people don't have the proper knowledge on what DIsco music was and how Disco culture gave birth to HipHop: 1) So-called "Disco" music is nothing more than R&B in the macro sense and "Funk" and Soul" music in the micro sense. What the HipHOp community keeps referring to as "Breaks/breakbeats" IS EXACTLY THE SAME MUSIC that was played in "Discos." Go look up the playlists of what people like Grandmaster Flowers, Nicky Siano, David Mancuso, Francis Grasso etc.. were playing. HipHop's fav breaks will be included 2) Within the music that came to be known as "Disco" which was really just R&B in the macro sense but Soul and Funk in the micro sense, there was a strand that became popular with "Hustle" dancers, and that type is what came to be described as the 4 on the floor with hissing hi-hats aka Philly Soul which is more like orchestral Soul/Funk. The other type of "Disco" was more "Raw" and was more like Funk in its raw state w/o the strings. That type could be more like James Brown, Earth Wind and Fire, Kool and the Gang, New Birth etc... .The latter type is what HipHop would focus more on but EVEN that type was played in the Discos...even those "gay" Discos were rocking those joints. . . . Disco culture was around before HipHop so it influenced the people in it. Before "HipHop" actually was named, it would have been seen as "Hood Disco" to most people. The 2 turntable setup and the Hustle dance along with the Freak, should've made that obvious. The difference between what came to be HipHop and Disco culture from a musical and dance POV, was: 1) birth of the bboys (dancing on the floor) 2) rapping mcs (the reason hiphop became a genre of music distinct from disco) 3) scratching of the records (the clear and obvious distinction between disco djing and hiphop djing) . . . So many people are used to associating "Disco" with the likes of the Village People and Donna Summers, that it completely distorts what Disco really was (R&B->Soul & Funk) and how it connects to HipHop (2 turntable setup), so when they see the word "Disco" in Mario's name or "Brothers Disco" (breakout and Baron), they often think that represents what they were actually was doing.
@@TheCulture..Since1971 Let me be more clear on that: Disco culture gave birth to the MUSICAL side of HipHop as far as it relates to the DJ and the focusing on the "Breaks". The other elements though, are from outside the realm of the DJ/music.
@hiphophistorian5476.. no that's not correct sir...thats not the truth... how are you coming to that conclusion...show your evidence... first off... what exactly is "DISCO CULTURE" to you?? do you mean lifestyle in the discotheque?? please give a short.. to the point definition of "disco culture"
@@TheCulture..Since1971 Not the lifestyle of "Disco" but the music/djing/turntablism aspects of "Disco culture". The answer to the question you asked about @ around ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bo-wTbqZ0CI.html or 26:16 about the Merry-Go-Round vs the Quick Mix, both pertain to Disco Djing influences/foundations. You know what scene where the focus on the "Break(s)" of a records was established? In the "Disco" scene. The only difference is no one was dropping to the floor like Bboys did later on HipHop. Kool Herc was basically doing crude "Disco" djing due to his lack of mixing skills, while Flash was doing "Disco" djing taken to the next level.
@hiphophistorian5476 Flowers, Maboya, Pete Jones, The Soul Brothers and the Smith Brothers did NOT have the same playlist as Nicky Siano, David Mancuso or any of them
I'm so over the gatekeepers who have a stronghold over the hip hop history narrative. Then when you get into what some of these creeps have done in their personal lives, it gets real disturbing. 🙁
