Greg talks with the school shooter who killed his son 25 years ago | StoryCorps 

Man, that was heavy. My deepest respects to the father for allowing the shooter forgiveness so that he may hopefully exorcise the demons inhabiting his mind and perhaps one day contribute to society to repay at least 1% of the damage he caused. Thanks for making this, StoryCorps.

The conversation was very intense and pure. I am amazed with the father’s wisdom. Hope he continues to remain strong.

This was very deep, big ups to both of them and StoryCorps of course. Shame that Wayne took that path. He seems like a very well spoken and intelligent individual.

Heart wrenching story. I'm so impressed at this father's dedication to finding difficult answers through peaceful dialogue.

I think I can see how Galen turned out to be a kid that got a standing ovation from a bunch of people who didn't even all know him.

Thats a really emotional video u got there

Mr. Gibson, props to you for having the strength not only to forgive him, but to speak to him in person. Mr. Lo, I respect the fact that you realized the error of your ways and made the effort to reach out to the families of your victims. I also respect the fact that you've set up that website where the proceeds go to the families of your victims. I don't know what your religious/spiritual perspectives are, but as a believer in God, I believe God will forgive you if you are truly repentant and accept that forgiveness.

This is why revenge is such a stupid and pointless concept. Sure, it can feel redemptive, but imagine this: imagine the man who committed this shooting never got to apologise, was surrounded by so much pain and anger (no matter how well deserved it is) that he was consumed by it. Imagine him, finally out of prison, a destroyer looking for more targets to hurt. But this conversation means that, even if he can never change the past, he may be able to help the world be a slightly, minisculely better place than that afternoon he killed someone's son. And that benefits everyone.

Keep in mind this was 25 years ago

What a man, what a man! That father must be so so strong to do this. To speak to the man whom killed your lifeblood, your one and only and not break down and kill him. Massive respect towards this man.

Beautiful and incredibly moving, Storycorps. Keep up the amazing, life-changing work!

If it were me I’d want nothing more than to get payback. But as is the case, you often feel empty when you enact vengeance. You still lost what you lost. Only now you stooped to the level of the murderer. Forgiving is the tougher battle. And if you succeed you may not walk away feeling as empty.

"I said. 'I want the SKS rifle.' And... It's incredible, how easy it was" 😞

That father is incredibly strong.

Dang that father was a great person. He was very forgiving.

I love how the shooter came to apologize

I have respect for the school shooter not cause he killed but he said sorry and he felt it...he cried

This is what is needed for healing. More of this.

remorse and forgiveness, we'd all be better people if we let ourselves feel these emotions

I am from Great Barrington and was 13 at the time of this. Amazing strength by that Mr. Gibson.

This shows how people change as they get older, may Galen Rest in Peace.

Gosh, that made me cry.

RIP Galen Gibson RIP Nacunan Saez

Watching Wayne's earlier interviews really lends perspective to the amount of work he put into understanding himself and his actions. Reading "Gone Boy" and listening to this interview, you can see how much Greg and his family have worked to move forward. The tragedy comes not only from the deceased, but the relatively small amount of time it would have taken a psychological professional to determine Wayne's state were they given the opportunity. There is no one to blame except Wayne, but there were multiple classmates who felt uneasy about Wayne's behavior, recognize your feelings and understand they exist for a reason. Make it known how uncomfortable or threatened you are by someone, but also make it known how completely willing you are to support that person if they're having a rough time (and of course they agree to respect you and your boundaries). The difference between some murderous youth and the rest of the population is a plethora of mistakes. Children *do not* have the capacity to fully understand the world around them, nor the consequences of their actions. It genuinely takes most people until around 28 to FULLY develop emotionally. We speak on end about physical brain development being a key part of adulthood, but that leaves zero room for understanding. Emotional development is an important process by which we root our morals and ethics, Wayne didn't just take the future of his victims, he took his own too, and without hesitation. I am not saying that a simple conversation would reveal what Wayne would have done, I am saying that we will never know if someone could have gotten through because they didn't try. Whatever you would like to believe, there is absolutely no way (Including schizophrenia) that Wayne was normal one day, and murderous the next.

So much pain. I hope they find peace.

That takes balls not to punch him in the face

I do not believe I am a big enough of a person to have this kind of conversation without holding major contempt and anger.

RIP Galen. What an interview. Exhausting as Galens father stated.

When the killer mentions how easy it was...it was very deep and disturbing. Well made and just deep.

Oh this, this hurt alot to see and to hear I'm not a parent but seeing how much my parents love me and my brothers and if they lost a child man that'd never heal. I haven't cried like this in awhile.

This is so sad 😢😭

Wow

I wouldn’t forgive someone, like this man, would never be able to see his son ever again, his son is gone forever

Really sucks that it's easier to buy a gun than it is to buy a car or house.

Incredible.

You 2 should go and speak at schools. Discover the bullies and the bullied. Help heal by teaching self reflection, self realization

Even after this, compassion. It may even save the shooter, it certainly changed him. I hope if I’m ever in a similar situation to that father, that my compassion with out-weight my anger and hate.

Greg Gibson, in my opinion, is someone we should all have as a role model.

What an incredible video.

i would not be able to forgive him, i would not be able to not reach across the table and break every bone in his body. this man was a good man for forgiving him, i couldn't and i know a lot of other people couldn't either

People only see the shooters as murderers but they are also victims or abuse from parents or bullying and this just shows how bullys and parents can fuck up the world sometimes

Only time will heal the wound and rotting in prison is worse than death

My uncle was murdered when I was really young and I felt like I had a mission too, a vendetta against the man who killed him but over time I thought, what if he was already caught and killed, what would happen to me or my family if I ended up killing another man who may have been just wrong in the head.... what would god do to me, I am a catholic and to me, breaking one of the 10 commandments means eternity in hell, I want to do enough good to go to heaven and meet my uncle again, my ancestors and great grandma, maybe even the murderer, just to see why and what did he felt when he did it... regret... good.... bad.... sorrow... what?

Very saddened and heartbroken by this story, definitely big ups to both of them for having the heart to speak even after so much loss.

The father is a much bigger man than me because no way i can be in thesame room of a killer who took my son’s life

It’s the hardest thing to give away And the last thing on your mind today It always goes to those who don’t deserve It’s the opposite of how you feel When they pain they caused is just too real Takes everything you have to say the word Forgiveness

That man is more mature than any of us.

I love your channel. Thank you.

Mi hermano Ñacuñan, también fue asesinado ese día por Wayne Lo. Hace más de 30 años. Lloro al escuchar esto. No hay día que no lo extrañe. Casi que no puedo terminar de escuchar la voz del asesino.

The part that got to me was when the murderer started to cry, it was powerful.

I'm not crying you're crying be quiet😢

Terrible tragedies always stem from either mental illness gone unnoticed or from individuals who had an abusive household when growing up but often times had someone reached out to these individuals had someone intervened and helped all the tragedy could be avoided even with some of the coolest tyrants and dictators in history they were all children once and a lot of them did not have very good childhoods

Every to be school shooter should watch this video.

_My Highschool friend committed a Mass Shooting in Canada in 2006. School Shooters don't want to just kill Bullies - they want to kill the school because the school is the bully because the teachers and everyone around them do nothing. It's the enviroment. Mass Shooters are not thinking about the pain or damage their going to cause, they're thinking about getting hyper-vigilante revenge. They want to kill the school. They hate the school, and who could blame them? The school is allowing them to be psychically abused and humilated in front of thousands of other children and the schools allow it. There is more like our Violent Gun Culture, Mental Health and lack of proper Support but don't feel like typing a Novel out._

This is a sad story but Looks like Buying things with your moms credit card just got extreme

It takes a very brave soul to apologize infront and to the man whom he killed kin or familiy of,moresoover notify his and their family, and even more bravery to apologize to them infront of millions, and billions of people. Even those who also may have been struck by a death with a family member included along with the death of the accepting family to forgive for a death of one person from their family. May he rest in piece for his brave act of kindness and bravery.

Beautiful!

Interesting... This is pretty deep. Stuff like this is really cool...

Very deep feelings! My very deep respect to the father who gave Me. Lo the chance, asking for forgiveness! The means a very very kind heart ❤ World would be a better place if there where more kind human! I'm looking up for him! May god give his mind and heart peace for his lifetime ❤ I lost my daughter when she was six month old because of sudden child death, I know what it's like to loose a child 😢 But to forgive the murderer of your child shows such a lot of kindness ❤ But to live without hate and anger is for sure a true soluition to all problems of life, otherwise it would just be a circle of hate and more hate and anger and hate in the next generation and so on ❤ This documentation really touched me deep inside 😢

What a amazing video

Painfully real😟 I'm sorry for all

You shouldn’t respond to kids that are having a rough time by dismissing they’re feelings....as you let that angry/sad feeling grow in that person...they’re soul fades and fades....I know you should/would hate a kid that did a school shooting but they were just scared of the position they were in...and wanted to end the suffering...I know killing a person is anything but stupid and unacceptable to society...but that’s not because they want to do it for fun...just hear me out if you see a person in that position don’t just ignore them ...love them ...love them with your heart...

I don't even know what to say in this.

It takes a man to accept an apologie.

So where's the conversation?

Greg Gibson the home plate umpire?

Chills.

That just messed up man what’s with idiots now in days

This is heavy stuff

Just Wow

Wow.

He could’ve just said he bought trash

It really shows how many crazy people are out there

"Feelings" lie. Emotions doesn't have intellect.

And REMEMBER kids don't ever shoot innocent People go to mental healthcare and be safe and have a good day 😊

Yo wtf is he ok with this

Oof this hurt

WoW

wow

He does this to try to escape prison

Imaigian being in this convo

I bought a knife the other day. I was surprised how easy it was. I've never used one before. They didn't even ask if I was trained. The guy even threw in a sharpener... for free.

Is it possible to heal a narcissist? Probably not. But you can be a presence, and hope that they see from your actions how to heal and see a 'model' of what is normal behavior. Sadly, however, it is not possible to heal a narcissist in today's world, only to reduce the risk of further harm. True healing was something that could only be done in 'natural man', prior to the age of 'machine man', 'lizard man', and 'biscuit dinosaur'.

Holy fuck

:(

Greg greg greg,

who the f**k pushed the down-vote button???

Fake crying how fast it stops,he just wabts 2 get out

How did he buy that gun so easily?

The crying is fake he’s able to stop to quickly. Quickly starts quickly stops

WHOA

As a student of this age..... I find it extremely hard to forgive people who have done such things, the Parkland shooting had a real impact on me... I wasn’t there, far from it, but as an anti gun violence activist, this was a strange perspective to see, and an enlightening one

I brang... my mothers fruit peel xd. I thought it was dangerous. Somehow

Its so sad that ecactly 20 years after the shooting at Simon's Rock, on December 14th, the Sandy Hook massacre occurred

Making money off of other people sick problems.

He’s manipulating him he’s telling him what he wants to hear he isn’t stupid

If only getting a car was as easy as this man getting an SKS :V

fakest crying ever

This is a propaganda video. Was Lo paid?

Wow.