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Grey's Anatomy 8x12 - Owen and Yang "You killed our baby" 

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@Athasin
@Athasin 11 лет назад
"She also had to have known that Owen wanted a family BEFORE they got married." She told him she never wanted kids before they were married. However, he DIDN'T say that having kids was a deal-breaker before they were married. She was upfront, honest and clear about what she wanted. Yet, he said nothing, hoping she'd change her mind. So it's understandable that she thought him asking her to marry him meant the he respected her decision never to be a mother.
@93King
@93King 4 года назад
She still could've walked away when she found out. It's on both of them. And she actually didn't tell him before they got married. They literally argued about that in therapy in a few episodes later.
@janedeluxxe
@janedeluxxe 3 года назад
@@93King she did tell Owen that maybe it was a mistake that they got married when they were discussing about having kids before she even got pregnant. It was the time when Callie was pregnant and she thanked Owen for not knocking her up. But then Owen told Cristina something like "you don't get to say that..."
@Ambereigh
@Ambereigh 3 года назад
@@janedeluxxe but then when he realized she was serious he said he was moving out and she begged for him not to leave and they were to therapy
@thatvampiregirl
@thatvampiregirl 3 года назад
@@93King why are u making it her fault, she told owen she didn’t want kids before he told her he did, owen should of left if he wasn’t happy about it
@dangalvan2484
@dangalvan2484 3 года назад
@@93King she did. It was in season 6, I don't know which episode. Callie, Owen, Teddy and Cristina were operating, and Cristina was surprised that teddy wanted kids, and when Callie asked if Cristina didn't want them, she said hell no. Owen was there. So he knew. He just assume she would change her mind. When Owen proposed, in season 7, he knew. And Cristina knew that he knew, so she assumed that he didn't want kids because, otherwise, why would he proposed? And then when again they talked about having kids, Cristina wanted to walk away and Owen didn't let her, so it's 100% his fault.
@Wheelsgr
@Wheelsgr 11 лет назад
No, we see later that Owen laughs off Cristina not wanting kids and thought it was something she would grow out of. I can't remember when it was but the main problem of their relationship is like the problem with Burke. These guys in Cristina's life keep trying to make her somebody she's not because she is so different from most women that they figure it's something they can fix. They don't understand that she is who she is and that it's ok to be that way. They keep thinking they can fix her.
@audreymoyers635
@audreymoyers635 4 года назад
but at the same time Cristina thought that of Owen, he shouldnt have said that but he was just so angry about everything....and Cristina didnt tell him they shouldnt have gotten married im actually rewatching the part where Cristina lost her first baby and was really depressed after and it made me so sad i mean i feel like they shouldve talked about it more and found a compromise
@Isabella-pl1qt
@Isabella-pl1qt 3 года назад
At least Burke acknowledged it and didn’t actually marry her. Owen’s an asshole.
@VDA19
@VDA19 3 года назад
" These guys in Cristina's life keep trying to make her somebody she's not because she is so different from most women that they figure it's something they can fix. " Cristina is basically the guy in the relationship and the guys are the wife.
@rhys4489
@rhys4489 3 года назад
Here Are My Disagreements 1. Aside from the abortion fiasco, Owen actually had no problem with letting Christina be her authentic self. 2. I think that if anything, Owen was kind of naive when he thought Christina would change her mind not just because he had a traditional upbringing, but also because he’s not very perceptive to begin with. 3. I got the sense Christina was hoping Owen would change his mind too. She didn’t realize how much Owen really wanted kids until she saw him with Ethan. 4. This is NOT a gender issue. If Arizona got pregnant with Mark Sloan’s baby and got an abortion, Callie would be really livid too because of how badly she wanted kids at one point in time. 5. Burke and Christina would have gotten married if Isaiah Washington wasn’t a homophobic asshole towards TR Knight. 6. It’s hard for two people who are as madly in love as Christina and Owen to just walk away from each other, especially if they have to see each other every day. That’s why they got back together after divorcing.
@Strawb3rryLP
@Strawb3rryLP 3 года назад
@@audreymoyers635 but there are barely any possible compromises when it comes to babies when you dont want one. and no, owen explicitley accepted it when cristina mentioned she didnt want kids and waited until AFTER their marriage to mention that he wasn't okay with that, thats not the same thing. She was upfront about never wanting children while he lied, believing that "she would come around"
@mayaa7814
@mayaa7814 3 года назад
at least burke was smart and left, because he knew that Christina didn’t want kids or the life he wanted. i think it’s worse to do what owen did than burke
@roshiiseneviratne2219
@roshiiseneviratne2219 5 лет назад
Waiting for Sandra Oh to finally get that much deserved Emmy for Killing Eve which eluded her during Grey's Anatomy.
@thenebean9
@thenebean9 4 года назад
She deserves ALL the Emmys!
@mario_ibarra
@mario_ibarra 4 года назад
Jodie Comer exists, but Sandra is an excellent actress, sad for her bad lucky in the Emmys :(
@ichimaruzero9697
@ichimaruzero9697 4 года назад
I feel like she never won an emmy for Greys because her colleagues were never matching her in scene. Owen seems so off here, with such forced lines and he kinda ruins Sandra's acting, making it seems like she's overacting.
@confusedhomosapien6231
@confusedhomosapien6231 3 года назад
Unfortunately Jodie comer her co star is a league of her own
@myong2206
@myong2206 2 года назад
me seeing this after the train wreck ending🫠🫠
@lolamiley
@lolamiley 9 лет назад
This couple is so brilliantly written. They absolutely break my heart and infuriate me but god damn this was probably Shonda Rhimes' peak.
@D22queen
@D22queen 8 лет назад
+lolamiley Have you not seen Scandal or How to Get Away with Murder?
@MoonChildLife
@MoonChildLife 12 лет назад
wow Derek looked so pissed off, he had this "how the hell could he say that to her" look on his face...!!
@cjporter0
@cjporter0 3 года назад
No it was how the hell can you do something like that !
@lo3468
@lo3468 3 года назад
@@cjporter0 yeah to Owen
@sweetmama4491
@sweetmama4491 3 года назад
It's something he would have said to Meredith. Remember when he called her a bad mother?
@cjporter0
@cjporter0 3 года назад
@@sweetmama4491 yeah
@maria7694
@maria7694 5 лет назад
Why is Owen acting like it's Cristina's fault for not giving him the life he envisioned? It's his job to walk away if he wants something different not expect the woman he claims to love to change for him
@93King
@93King 4 года назад
Why didn't she walk away either? She knew he wanted kids and still stuck around too. Why does it have to be one person's fault and not both?
@melindamo999
@melindamo999 4 года назад
King i agree it was both their faults, but owen knew how strongly christina felt about it and he assumed she would come around and agree with him
@brandyeverett7778
@brandyeverett7778 4 года назад
They both assumed stuff. Christia assumed that if Owen was marrying her that he excepted that she didn't want kids. Owen assumed that she would eventually change her mind.
@thatonehispanic7982
@thatonehispanic7982 4 года назад
Why did Christina kill Owen's child without telling him?
@Noon50
@Noon50 4 года назад
Notice the term “claim”... that emplies if you truly love someone, you shouldn’t have expectations to change for him. Love isn’t meant to force someone to change something, but it’s meant to even sacrifice for each other. It is meant to be compatible. As for Owen, he tried to convince her to accept the fact that she is a woman and she could have children and be a good surgeon too. Her claims that having children will hinder her from being great was far away from life realities. I think she was a special psychopathic kind of a woman.
@everygorgeousmoment
@everygorgeousmoment 9 лет назад
Two people can love each other and want different things. That's why Cristina eventually had to leave and make a clean break. She chose her career because it gave her the same feelings that Owen got when he thought about being a father. Those values would never change but their feelings would never change if they were always seeing each other every day. Their relationship is beautiful, tragic, and real. Just because it didn't work out doesn't mean it wasn't real.
@suegale2273
@suegale2273 7 лет назад
Elizabeth Purvis
@suegale2273
@suegale2273 7 лет назад
Elizabeth Purvis
@RenzoCC412
@RenzoCC412 7 лет назад
True that!
@RazelHollero
@RazelHollero 4 года назад
i couldnt agree more!!
@mishaahuja1105
@mishaahuja1105 3 года назад
why is no one talking about the face Derek made like he was Christina’s protective older brother
@aidagaryson9795
@aidagaryson9795 3 года назад
Cuz Christina and Derek at the family bond
@beingteegold1633
@beingteegold1633 3 года назад
He probably would have punched him if he was closer
@serenaoviedo2955
@serenaoviedo2955 2 года назад
I think he was more like "how could SHE do that?"
@beingteegold1633
@beingteegold1633 2 года назад
@@serenaoviedo2955 Nah, almost everyone knew about the abortion. He’s expression was clearly about Owen
@shridhartargaryen
@shridhartargaryen 2 года назад
@@serenaoviedo2955 LMAO pls no he wasn’t, he was angry at Owen
@lindseysheppard4056
@lindseysheppard4056 3 года назад
Christina told Owen she didn’t want a baby. And then he goes and asks Christina to consider his wants and make a compromise?? Like buddy you can’t compromise on a child
@niyahliyah2626
@niyahliyah2626 2 года назад
i agreeee! no one talks about how ownen manipulated her so bad in season 7, when he was trying to make her keep the baby instead of aborting it. owen is just so wrong ab this whole thing in so many ways & it’s not cristina’s fault that she doesn’t want a child. it’s her body🤦🏽‍♂️
@ultravioletpisces3666
@ultravioletpisces3666 10 месяцев назад
Comprise which means do what he wants. Like compromise her entire life!
@amazing.aimeee
@amazing.aimeee 2 года назад
My respect for Owen after this scene went out the window
@Athasin
@Athasin 11 лет назад
I don't think she deserved that. She told him BEFORE they got married that she didn't want kids, but he just ignored her principles thinking she'd change her mind. So you can't really say he didn't know what he was getting into when he married her. Plus he tricked her into operating on Henry and then had her lie to Teddy for hours. She felt responsible to make it up to Teddy (through cool surgeries) b/c he put her in that situation to begin with.
@multifandomvideos3275
@multifandomvideos3275 4 года назад
And he proposed to her knowing that she wasn't really in a good place.
@TheDiego517
@TheDiego517 3 года назад
Teddy asked him to put Cristina in that situation, the Webber convinced him of not telling Teddy as well as don’t pull her out of the surgery, and everything that happened after that IT WAS an impossible situation
@purplepineapples7875
@purplepineapples7875 3 года назад
Zola just casually eating while all this drama goes down is everything 🤣🤣🤣
@beingteegold1633
@beingteegold1633 3 года назад
She’s not going to let grownups ruin her day 😂😂
@Athasin
@Athasin 11 лет назад
1. She doesn't hate kids. She is actually good with them: Zola, the little girl whose mom died of a heart attack, etc. 2. She rather not have a kid / raise a kid that would grow up knowing that it was unwanted and resent by it's mother (look how messed up Meredith was having a mother who did not want her / resented her for making her life as surgeon difficult) 3. You don't get married to have kids, not in this day and age.
@niyahliyah2626
@niyahliyah2626 2 года назад
bro no one talks about how owen manipulated her in season 7 into trying to keep the baby instead of aborting it. owen is just so wrong in so many ways and it’s not cristina’s fault cs she doesn’t want a baby.. it’s her body!
@scharf74
@scharf74 8 лет назад
WOW. So everyone heard that? Geeesh......
@feliciapoole1388
@feliciapoole1388 6 лет назад
Nikki Schar it’s never a good idea to argue about personal Business in front of people.
@thundercookie1014
@thundercookie1014 5 лет назад
At a kids birthday party no less...
@kenjie7815
@kenjie7815 3 года назад
Sheeesssshhhhh
@jaehieyla1
@jaehieyla1 7 лет назад
i know this video is not about her. But.... I MISS LEXI SO MUCH
@miahgomez3970
@miahgomez3970 4 года назад
I CANT GO WITHOUT ONE EPISODE NOT THINKING ABOUR HER
@Njx063
@Njx063 2 года назад
Ikr
@nolakiss
@nolakiss 8 лет назад
I loved this scene, it gets me every time the honesty and the raw emotion...ugh I miss Christina. But I always felt that Owen, just like Burke, was unfair to Christina. If Owen envisioned a certain life for himself than he should have fell in love with another woman! Christina already said from the jump she didn't want kids but naturally instead of taking her words as truth Owen thought that it was just a phase or she will grow out of it when that wasn't the case, some people honestly don't want children and THAT IS OKAY. I always felt like both Burke and Owen (Who don't get me wrong were great relationships for her though they failed) wanted to change the essence of her and in a lot of ways Christina let them until it got too much and that she didn't recognize herself.
@jamescarstars8228
@jamescarstars8228 5 лет назад
you dont choose who you fall for and loving someone does mean sacrifice , it was not just her baby it was owen s too ,she should have had the baby and given it to owen to raise , she murdered an innocent life .she killed the baby,cristina was unfair to burke and owen. burke sacrificed everything, despite cristina being a sloth bear and everything else burke wanted to live with her ,love her. on their wedding day she didnt come down the aisle it was always burke who sacrificed. she did not even seem interested in the vows .if she knew what it meant to buke she could have at least tried but no she didnt
@bhavyagupta68
@bhavyagupta68 5 лет назад
Also, CRISTINA. It's CRISTINA. PLEASE SPELL IT CORRECTLY.
@sydneysykes4312
@sydneysykes4312 5 лет назад
@@jamescarstars8228 exactly. I agree
@93King
@93King 4 года назад
@@marissaurias5116 I understand both sides and I understand how both are in the wrong. Personally I don't think Yang should even be in relationships. Marriage terrified her and having kids mortified her. She should just focus on her career and leave out the idea of relationships.
@SandyCheeks92837
@SandyCheeks92837 3 года назад
@@marissaurias5116 lmao Cristina literally BEGGED Owen to not leave her at the end of S8EP14. She desperately wanted him to stay. While I understand she has every right to make that decision regarding her own body, she has communication issues. Both Owen and her are complete opposites. Owen is emotional and knows what he wants in a relationship while Yang shuts people down and doesn’t know what to do in a relationship. Yes, he should have left her and walked away but he genuinely loved her and was willing to sacrifice the life he envisioned just to be with her. On the other hand, she loved him but she didn’t try all the way the same way he did because her main priority was and always will be her career. Owen and Burked NEVER tried to change her. They just wanted her to be more open and trustful towards them which is very important in a relationship. Whenever Yang had issues, she would always say she was fine and nothing was wrong which sometimes led to her having breakdowns from the feelings she kept bottling up. They just wanted her to not shut them down but she clearly lacks communication skills AND trust issues. That’s literally Yang’s character, she IS a robot.
@FRENITJA
@FRENITJA 12 лет назад
I love it when Sandra Oh expresses herself slowly and clearly. For instance when she takes the time to say "Your call" at the beginning. I think it's one of the secrets of her acting and her charisma
@Athasin
@Athasin 11 лет назад
6x19 Cristina asked Teddy "You want to have have kids?" Callie responded, "Wait, you don't?" Cristina responded, "Have you met me? Teddy gives Owen a look ( /watch?v=SfxSNwi8pHw - skip to around 1:00) Whether Owen forgot in the moment or the writers forgot, I don't know. However, you can't say she didn't make her feelings know BEFORE they got married.
@lauraschoenborn3544
@lauraschoenborn3544 6 лет назад
She made it known, but they never had the conversation until after they were married. They should have talked about it before the wedding. But Owen loved her too much, he just wanted her. It wasn't until it was real, and she was pregnant that he realized it would never happen.
@dangalvan2484
@dangalvan2484 3 года назад
@@lauraschoenborn3544 also, Cristina wasnt in a good mental state when he proposed, when they planned the wedding and after they got married. She literally had ptsd, and he proposed, and she was traumatized and didn't want to be alone, so I don't blame Cristina for not really having that talk before they got married. Owen should had brought it up and he didn't. And when she found out, she gave him and out, and he didn't take it. This is 100% Owen's fault.
@minakelly158
@minakelly158 3 года назад
Almost every women that owen marries or gets with feel pressured to have a baby or feel guilty because of it.
@thestarlightforge6568
@thestarlightforge6568 5 лет назад
0:55 Derek and Meredith being the casual married duo is the tops lmao
@swdoan
@swdoan 9 лет назад
Well I understand where Owen is coming from he is totally out of line. Cristina told him a while ago she doesn't want kids but if he really wants kids he should find someone else to be with. Since Owen didn't do that, one would think he is fine or accepting of having a childless life with Cristina. However, no the guy keeps punishing her even though she gave him an out and he didn't take it. I understand people saying but Owen doesn't want kids with anyone but Cristina however since she's practically screamed it at him that she doesn't want kids and will never want them then it's time to either jump on the band wagon or find someone else!!
@OR0R0
@OR0R0 9 лет назад
librread exactly! my point from the start.
@macibriggs4555
@macibriggs4555 6 лет назад
i kinda agree, like i get that he is upset about the kid but she made it clear she didn't want to be a mom. She told him to date someone who could give him what he wanted, like dude you said you were over it.
@93King
@93King 4 года назад
Why does everyone put all of this on Owen? It's on both of them. They both knew what each other wanted and still decided to get married to one another. It doesn't fall all on one person, it's on both of them.
@renaorgan3873
@renaorgan3873 4 года назад
King yes but it was owen who kept bringing it up and had a issue with it. it was owen who embarrassed her in front of their friends and cheated on her bc of it and then pushed her away. that was all owen
@93King
@93King 4 года назад
@@renaorgan3873 What does any of that have to do with my point?
@Punk3rGirl
@Punk3rGirl 7 лет назад
It's so frustrating because it's like what did both of them expect?? They knew they wanted different things before getting married, and they got married anyway. Cristina was very adamant about not wanting kids, and she's the kind of person who is stubbornly ambitious and driven in her career. So, both of them should have seen this coming.
@cherizar1854
@cherizar1854 6 лет назад
first comment I actually 100% agree with. I think the entire point of Shonda including this complicated plotline was precisely to highlight just how difficult these kinds of situations actually are. It's not black and white. It's very easy for people like us, who've likely never lived through anything like what these characters are experiencing, to judge one character or the other and say "I hate owen! he's so whiny! this is not his call! he should just shut up and deal with it!" or say "christina's such a bitch for not wanting a kid! she already got pregnant, she should just suck it up and live with it!". It's ok for a guy to want kids, and for it to be crucial for that guy to have kids at some point in his future. It's ok for a woman not to want kids, and for it to be crucial for her to not have any in her future. But I think you also need to be wise enough and considerate enough to the other person's wishes to acknowledge when a relationship (as awesome as it might be in most aspects) is just not gonna work out, because neither person is willing to change their stance. In that way, they're both to blame. They should've had a serious discussion about kids waaay before Cristina even had a chance to get pregnant. They both kind of had it coming tbh.
@eshwarig3983
@eshwarig3983 4 года назад
Cherizar that’s the most mature and considerate opinion. Both are right in their Stance and wrong in their relationship
@tooicecold
@tooicecold 3 года назад
And I think it’s specially hard because he is not arguing because he wants a kid and Cristina does not. They were not planning on having one and she got pregnant. It was not a question of oh let’s or let’s not have a baby, the baby existed and she decided to get an abortion (I’m not judging the decision she made) but he was against it and he had no say in it. So he has the right of being upset but also she is not wrong either because she did always say she did not want kids. It’s really a complicated situation because in one hand yes she did get an abortion of a child that was both of theirs and he had no say but the alternative was that she was going to have it and be miserable for the rest of her life. There was not a right or wrong answer, either way one of them would be miserable with the outcome.
@dangalvan2484
@dangalvan2484 3 года назад
Well, to be fair, Cristina didn't know that Owen wanted kids. She literally told him in surgery that she didn't want kids before getting married. He did not say anything, and the next season he proposed. So she assumed that he didn't want kids either. And then, when she even offered to walk away because she couldn't give him kids, and he still went after her. Owen is 100% wrong, and this is not Cristina's fault.
@Xczptn391
@Xczptn391 3 года назад
Bc Owen took advantage of her to get married and now push her to have kids. I really don't like guys like Owen.
@dilpreetkaur9782
@dilpreetkaur9782 11 лет назад
Kevin mckidd and Sandra oh just break my heart into a million pieces with their acting! Kevin mckidd especially was beyond brilliant in this scene...what a powerful powerful performance!
@Athasin
@Athasin 11 лет назад
That's the thing they did discuss it. She told him before they got married she NEVER wanted kids (back when Callie and Arizona were fighting over it, before the hospital shooting). Then after they get married, she says it again and he's like "Yeah, sure" completely dismissing her beliefs. Then he says he thought she'd change her mind/grow out of it and AGAIN she said she doesn't want kids and never will. Really what did he expect?
@Nessa0482000
@Nessa0482000 10 лет назад
I remember seeing this scene and yelling, "NO! NO! Shonda No! Not Christina and Owen" The start of the end of my favorite GA couple. Sighs...well at least I have Jackson and April.
@HelloGudbye93
@HelloGudbye93 8 лет назад
+Nessa0482000 About that.........
@harpykrates
@harpykrates 6 лет назад
Oh honey, you poor thing
@gabyhdezpacos7434
@gabyhdezpacos7434 6 лет назад
This is so sad
@mohdfairuzhenri9277
@mohdfairuzhenri9277 6 лет назад
Three years late and I'm here to say "hah, you thought."
@samanthaalbores1245
@samanthaalbores1245 6 лет назад
This comment did not age well.
@mldy9229
@mldy9229 5 лет назад
Can we just say how amazing the acting is?
@MJ-tz1je
@MJ-tz1je 6 лет назад
Throw Emmy’s at them pleaseeeee
@salias.363
@salias.363 3 года назад
Owen is kind of an asshole. Cristina has been through enough already, like he needs to stop shaming her for a decision she had every right to make and was 100% upfront with him about. I mean he was right there with her when she had the procedure and it is ultimately his fault for trying to make her change who she is. A marriage in which one party tries to make the other change or just assumes the other will change in the future is rarely a successful one
@MyMy-cz7mx
@MyMy-cz7mx 3 года назад
period
@Hi-gg8rp
@Hi-gg8rp 4 года назад
Zola just spreading frosting around her face lol
@alexiciamoore5642
@alexiciamoore5642 4 года назад
“You killed our baby. You never forget that.” Me: *with tears in my eyes* “that’s really how you feel?”
@shamona1988
@shamona1988 11 лет назад
Even though this scene was so dramatic and all about owen and christina, when i saw zola's face at the end i just melted a little! She is just too damn cute!
@OR0R0
@OR0R0 9 лет назад
i love Cristina. she has the right to be selfish and fight for the life she wants. she lets no one side track her, get anything over on her, and she has all of my respect. it takes strength to live the life you want and deciding not to care who's feelings get hurt about it.
@lexi219
@lexi219 9 лет назад
Interesting viewpoint... I personally think that selfishness is one of the most pathetic traits an adult with real relationships can have. If you enter into any kind of personal relationship with someone else (romantic, platonic friendships, etc.) as an adult, you concede your right to be completely selfish. If you want to be selfish, hang out by yourself, but don't stomp on other people just so you can get your way all of the time. Think about it this way, would you ever want to be the other person in that relationship? What if your best friend decided that they don't like listening to your problems and they always get to decide what activities y'all are going to do? Or if your spouse didn't want to listen to your viewpoints on where y'all should live - they just selfishly decide for the both of you without consulting your feelings on the subject? It most does not take strength to decide not to care about hurting other people - that's weak and narcissistic. If you want to live a selfish life, then you most certainly should not get married. Now, I absolutely think that Cristina (and everyone) should fight for the life she wants, but you can't just stomp around on other people's feelings and not expect them to fight back.
@OR0R0
@OR0R0 9 лет назад
lexi219 if you recall, owen got with cristina when she was at her most vulnerable time. he knew this, so he felt he could sway her into doing what he wanted. but he did not count on her getting stronger in herself and living the life she wanted. owen was a snake. so i applaud cristina's decision. being selfish is of the strong minded - meaning you let NO ONE influence you or make your life about them. now, being sneaky and underhanded to try to sway someone like owen did is the most pathetic trait of human existence. had she not been completely selfish, she would have been suckered by him. my thing is if he knew cristina did not want the same things in life he wanted, he could have left her alone and found someone else instead of trying to change her.he didnt, so he got stomped on. i would not be that other person in that relationship because im smart enough not to be with someone who does not share my views and wants in life.
@OR0R0
@OR0R0 9 лет назад
nor would i call a person a best friend who didnt act like one. the same for my spouse. the problem with people is they put these titles and labels on others, expecting them to act how they want them to. but reality is, some people are selfish and some people just do not want to bend for others. not saying that they wont find someone one day to bend for, but they have to be worth it. i love cristina for who she is and her iron will. call it selfish, being a bitch or whatever, but she doesn't crack for anyone. maybe one day she will, but that special person isn't found yet.
@lexi219
@lexi219 9 лет назад
OR0R0 Cristina was a grown woman though. By blaming Owen for their problems, you are stripping her of all of her agency, which is incredibly insulting to her as a person, but especially as a strong woman. Yes, she was vulnerable at the time when they got married, but he was the vulnerable one when they got together (remember he had severe PTSD then). Are you saying that Cristina was a snake for entering into a romantic relationship with someone who was that vulnerable? It has to go both ways. She also recovered from that PTSD and wanted to stay married to Owen. That was her choice. But I guess we have a difference of opinion about Cristina and her selfishness. I hope to god to never have someone in my life who has so little regard for others the way Cristina does, but you have every right to like her for the same reasons that I find her pathetic and abhorrent. Different strokes for different folks.
@OR0R0
@OR0R0 9 лет назад
blaming or telling the truth? no matter how you twist it, owen was the initiator of all of this mess. if a person tells you what they stand on in life, it's not up to you to try to be with them, hoping you can change them. had he went for a woman who wanted marriage and kids, then he wouldnt have went through this problem. simple as that. how long has cristina said she doesnt want kids? she's been herself, unchanging since day one. not her fault he couldnt handle it.
@siobhan2395
@siobhan2395 3 года назад
owen had NO BUISNESS saying that to her. screaming it for all their friends to hear. disgusting really
@kitcat9245
@kitcat9245 4 года назад
My favorite scene out of the ENTIRE series. Beautifully written and acted, and the Jezabels playing in the background just tie it all together to be the perfect scene of heartbreak and hurting. greys anatomy was unbearably cheesey at times, but In the end, it was scenes like these that made the show incredible
@esthertemowo8934
@esthertemowo8934 3 года назад
What a beautiful yet tragic relationship. The way they were written is soooo compelling.
@dilpreetkaur9782
@dilpreetkaur9782 11 лет назад
one of the most heartbreaking scenes ever...
@RoSee913
@RoSee913 10 месяцев назад
Owen is the biggest red flag to ever walk on this earth cause why tf is he forcing her to keep a baby she doesn’t want
@eurekamreum5458
@eurekamreum5458 4 года назад
I had almost this exact same argument with my ex (not the abortion part, another issue lol) and I can relate to Meredith's speech in this clip so much, I wish we had realized it was a lost cause and end it right then and there instead of dragging the whole thing for years and years.
@keirasmith838
@keirasmith838 5 лет назад
Mark with Sophia is just the cutest thing I’ve ever seen
@kushkins6940
@kushkins6940 Год назад
"It all comes back to this". Christina delivered in this scene
@joslinegreen2947
@joslinegreen2947 2 года назад
god i used to love this show so bad
@lolacall2401
@lolacall2401 11 лет назад
Holy shiit Kevin Mckidd just stole that scene ! Is a great actor !
@TNTITAN
@TNTITAN 4 месяца назад
I love the way people are like “Own should have done this and Christina should have done that”. Guys this is an actual issue real people have, so if you all such experts help real people with these issues and not fictional characters.
@Athasin
@Athasin 11 лет назад
Also getting your tubes tied is major surgery. More dangerous that a gallbladder removal, a vasectomy, or an abortion. This is the woman who is working on having a legendary career. She works constantly and was trying to work right after having a ectopic pregnancy burst one of her fallopian tubes (while she was still a patient herself). So I can see how she'd rather rely on birth control than schedule a procedure that would then stop her from working for weeks to probably over a month.
@jbobbster
@jbobbster 12 лет назад
It's understandable how Owen blew up. You could tell that he had been holding this pent up anger in him for a while. And they had never actually talked about it. They just had lots of sex. And lots of sex maybe nice, but it didn't solve the actual problem. And the anger and resentment just kept building up inside him. And when Cristina and Teddy pulled this stunt on him, basically undermining his authority as chief, it push him over the edge. I firmly believe that Cristina had this coming.
@eshwarig3983
@eshwarig3983 4 года назад
Specterling finally, someone has Owen’s side
@pryncesscore
@pryncesscore 4 года назад
@@eshwarig3983 But it literally his fault,you can't force your vision on someone and act shock that they haven't changed
@eshwarig3983
@eshwarig3983 4 года назад
seiixoxo so, it’s okay for Cristina to expect Owen to change his vision of having kids and stay with her, but not okay the other way. That doesn’t seem fair. I’m not saying Owen is right. I’m saying they’re both wrong
@audreymoyers635
@audreymoyers635 4 года назад
yes thank u i feel for owen in this case
@audreymoyers635
@audreymoyers635 4 года назад
@@pryncesscore but thats the same for Cristina she expected owen to change
@sarena4744
@sarena4744 3 года назад
This is the moment when i started hating Owen. Christina deserves better than this. First Burke now him
@MyMy-cz7mx
@MyMy-cz7mx 3 года назад
same
@MoonMoon-fx1op
@MoonMoon-fx1op 4 года назад
Best Grey's Anatomy argument of all time
@kitcat9245
@kitcat9245 4 года назад
Do you hear me? It was every choice we made in the last - it was a life I incisions for myself. It was not one surgery. - so beautiful
@sala509
@sala509 3 года назад
Owen and Burke legit the same character they are hella selfish and wanted Cristina to fit into their perfect box, the perfect life. Both of them didn't deserve her. Cristina literally had some of the most toxic relationships.
@beingteegold1633
@beingteegold1633 3 года назад
She shouldn’t have been in a relationship with men who don’t want what she wants either
@justasockonhere
@justasockonhere 5 месяцев назад
I love how Meredith immediately defended her and stood up to Owen, calling him out on his bullshit with no hesitation
@h.b.boss8786
@h.b.boss8786 3 года назад
What crazy is that Meredith warned Owen to not force Christina to have a baby knowing full well she don’t one. Ellis Grey was a Christina yang. Not saying that Ellis didn’t nor never loved her child, she did, but Ellis love being a surgeon even more.
@BadActingWYIM
@BadActingWYIM 11 лет назад
damn i must admit this one one of the best scenes, or atleast best scene where owens acting really shined. i mean come one hes a great actor all the time but this scene was the cherry on top. brilliant.
@anafernandamercadoaraujo8448
@anafernandamercadoaraujo8448 5 лет назад
Well I guess that after no matter what Cristina says about not wanting kids Owen seems to be not interested in listening to her and yet he blames her for the abortion. I feel sorry for him but I feel more sorry for Cristina that the two guys who love her don't respect her choices.
@MiaGraceMusicPH
@MiaGraceMusicPH 4 года назад
I don’t want to have kids. My partner seems to think it’s a phase too, my friends would say the same. Like I don’t know what I’m saying or that I will change my mind or that it’s not under my control. Some people just don’t get that it’s my decision. I don’t have the financial means for it and I’m not ready or capable to put my body through such pain. I’m very weakly. Why should I even explain, right?
@a.8882
@a.8882 3 года назад
what do you even expect? tearful comments , a virtual pat on the back ? nobody asks you to explain your decision. I don't understand people who tell their sappy stories from their lives on the internet... it's comment session under the video not fucking group therapy.
@ilanab.9668
@ilanab.9668 3 года назад
@@a.8882 Jeez she was just telling a story, is it so hard to just scroll down? No need to be rude...
@Ambereigh
@Ambereigh 3 года назад
Break up with them and be with someone who doesn’t want kids. Why would you get in a relationship with someone who wants kids if you don’t?
@Cheff67
@Cheff67 5 месяцев назад
Deve ser difícil pro Owen, ver a mulher que ama abortar seu filho. E ver a mesma mulher tratando a filha da amiga com tanto amor e carinho. Yang sempre mereceu ouvir a verdade, todo mundo aliviava pra ela
@elinorboese5818
@elinorboese5818 4 года назад
Cristina was a lot like Ellis Grey and mabey that's part of the reason why Mer was so attracted to her
@pryncesscore
@pryncesscore 4 года назад
I'm thinking to understand Owens ideology. Lets say Yang has the baby, you're happy and she's probably not going to be happy. Like what if she hates her own kid, but at least you're a father right? Wouldn't you want a person who wants to be a mother?
@rachelsantos84
@rachelsantos84 3 года назад
i think he anticipated for her to grow to love the kid as she evolves through pregnancy and that maybe she was worried ab being a bad mother or had a past that effected her outlook on motherhood
@02devildog112
@02devildog112 9 лет назад
I like Christina and her ability to know herself. What I do not understand is how an intelligent doctor can get pregnant twice, when she does not want to have a baby? There are so many ways to prevent pregnancies. Why would she allow this to happen? That I do not understand.
@missmissmissblue
@missmissmissblue 8 лет назад
Birth control can fail you know
@thundercookie1014
@thundercookie1014 5 лет назад
She should have gotten her one working tube tied. OR SHE SHOULDN’T HAVE MARRIED SOMEONE WHO WANTS KIDS.
@ptaranto2880
@ptaranto2880 5 лет назад
@@missmissmissblue I love how people say that like it's a 50/50 chance. It's impossible if you use it properly in a non-fertile date.
@Nickidesu
@Nickidesu 5 лет назад
That's AWESOME Literally, all forms of contraception have a failure rate. Even if used correctly. Even getting a vasectomy isn’t 100% in preventing pregnancy.
@cathleenhawkey2147
@cathleenhawkey2147 5 лет назад
K
@ilphi08
@ilphi08 Год назад
The story of Crowen is about two people loving each other and get along well in life But they ultimately hurt each other by ignoring the difference of what they want in life
@MowMowsLife
@MowMowsLife 2 месяца назад
What’s funny is I’m watching the seasons over, not once has he sacrificed for her, except maybe not going after Teddy. Literally HE proposed right after the 2nd most traumatic event in her life, at the moment she was not her self. If he wanted any room to be upset, he has none. He didn’t give her time to heal before asking a major question like that, or before bringing up children. Not to mention she has every right to say no to another potential lethal event. I hate to break it to everyone, having kids is hard, but birthing them is life or death. Cristina had an ectopic pregnancy the first time, which is about 98% lethal, the episode with the abdomen baby was a rare best case scenario. It makes up 2% of pregnancies and 3-4% of pregnancy related deaths.
@spitfiresr
@spitfiresr 8 лет назад
Damn this makes me mess Lexi and Mark "/
@jbobbster
@jbobbster 11 лет назад
Teddy told him to not tell her it was Henry that she was operating on. Owen had reservations, but Teddy wanted the closest thing to her, which was Christina, to operate on him. So she told him not to tell her that it was her husband. And he had to tell Cristina to lie to Teddy because she was in the middle of surgery. Teddy needed to be fully focused to save the guy's life. And technically, in all the episodes before their marriage, the ideal of having or not having kids wasn't brought up.
@LilAnh0123
@LilAnh0123 11 лет назад
They shouldnt have been together. They want so many different things.
@baileyolde7302
@baileyolde7302 4 года назад
Still my favourite Grey's scene after 16 seasons
@keropphia
@keropphia 2 года назад
he literally almost killed her in season 5 LMFAO
@sweetmama4491
@sweetmama4491 3 года назад
I don't think people understand this scene. This thing had been bottling up for weeks. Meredith pushed Cristina for them to talk about because she knew it would blow up like it did. They had not talked about it AT ALL since she got the abortion so that's why Owne yelled that. You could tell from his face that he didn't mean to say it but he's been holding it in for so long it just came out.
@MyThoughtsBelow
@MyThoughtsBelow 8 лет назад
That Derek shot kills me.
@everythinggoodnotbad
@everythinggoodnotbad 5 лет назад
why lol?
@audreymoyers635
@audreymoyers635 4 года назад
time stamp please
@lorrainen6144
@lorrainen6144 8 лет назад
She did not kill anyone.
@suegale2273
@suegale2273 7 лет назад
Lorraine N
@lorrainen6144
@lorrainen6144 7 лет назад
Sue Gale yes?
@manuelalopes8468
@manuelalopes8468 7 лет назад
Sua
@Yony61
@Yony61 7 лет назад
Of course not. I'm in favour of abortion but... seeing this scene every time I think about Owen's mind, why he is so sad... he wanted to have a kid with Christina!! Christina didn't even think of that, and that "sometimes" , for me, seems mean (I'm talking about this scene) :'(.
@brittlandrum7672
@brittlandrum7672 6 лет назад
Lorraine N She ended a human being’s life. So yes, so did.
@Jennah0908
@Jennah0908 3 года назад
There’s no sides to be taken here. They were both at fault. I mean Cristina STILL wanted to make it work even after all this. I’m just gonna appreciate the great acting lol
@beingteegold1633
@beingteegold1633 3 года назад
Both of them were wrong tbh. Cristina told him she wanted kids, he shouldn’t have married her since he wasn’t ready to give up his dreams. Owen always wanted kids, Cristina shouldn’t have married him since she doesn’t want kids. Another issue they had was that they don’t communicate about their issues. After she had the abortion, they never talked about it. Whether they want to continue the marriage and how to accomplish their individual goals.
@mahi.1907
@mahi.1907 Год назад
What burke wanted was a beautiful family, kids ... and cristina had totally different dreams
@Miidi8787
@Miidi8787 8 лет назад
I miss this Zola.
@racheld4298
@racheld4298 7 лет назад
1-actual awkward science 2-I STILL DONT UNDERSTAND YOU OWEN!! WHAT IS YOUR POINT IN ANYTHING! 3-it's almost like everything is about Owen but Christina doesn't like that so she actually says stuff about it.
@joi2220
@joi2220 6 лет назад
I know I was so for anyone when was wondering this is season 8 episode 12 “Hope For the Hopeless”
@n_abiy
@n_abiy 3 года назад
I had so much hate for Owen
@anniechester319
@anniechester319 10 лет назад
best show on the planet!
@cassandrapowell4853
@cassandrapowell4853 4 года назад
I know Owen has his own problems and it is hard to agree with him on a lot of things. That being said Owen and Cristina relationship was important to show on tv. It shows that sometimes love is not enough. The chemistry of the two actors is amazing. An they played this relationship with such passion and realism.
@jbobbster
@jbobbster 11 лет назад
Actually, episode 8x14 disproves the fact that Cristina said she didn't want kids before they were actually married. In therapy, Owen said that this bombshell should have been dropped BEFORE they got married. And Cristina stated that he proposed and they got married so fast, she didn't mention it at that time. So if Cristina didn't want kids, she should have told Owen that when he proposed to her. She didn't and here we are.
@isabellehuang3546
@isabellehuang3546 4 года назад
Owen proposed to her after the shooting, when she was going through PTSD. Her mind was not in the right place. After they have a conversation about having kinds Owen says that Cristina is not allowed to quit on him because they were in love and he believed that she would change. They did have the conversation about kids in earlier episodes, and Owen addresses this saying that he believed this was a young persons beliefs and he thought she grew up after the shooting. Cristina was always really straightforward but when he proposed it was immediately after she had a gun to the head. It’s quite unfair to pin it on anyone.
@MadiIgnacia
@MadiIgnacia 6 лет назад
This song and I love it.
@thestarlightforge6568
@thestarlightforge6568 5 лет назад
Even Derek was like nooooo you just didn’t. XD You know if I were either Derek or Mer I woulda been like “Dude seriously right now get the fk outta my house” “Right now” RIP DI DIP DIP
@BigDoggTheDon
@BigDoggTheDon 5 лет назад
Shut up Owen is entitled to his feelings right or wrong
@skyler4691
@skyler4691 6 лет назад
I stopped watching GA after Derek’s death but damn I forgot how great this show was and how hot Owen was
@weepingwillows21
@weepingwillows21 5 лет назад
I get Owen's anger here. Cristina shouldn't have had the abortion without talking to him about it first. However, he shouldn't have tried to force her to be someone she wasn't just so he could have what he wanted. Cristina and Meredith were great friends, but they were also very different. Meredith warmed to the idea of kids slowly. Cristina was not and probably never would have been the warm fuzzy cookie baking PTA type.
@eleanortowse
@eleanortowse 3 года назад
i’m a year late but owen went to the appointment with cristina so he definitely knew
@niyahliyah2626
@niyahliyah2626 2 года назад
UM i disagree bc its HER body and she can have an abortion if she wants?? she doesn’t need his approval so what if they’re married. she didn’t want the baby so she didn’t have to have it
@axxeyg439
@axxeyg439 11 лет назад
The jezabels - "Easy to love"
@King77k-n6t
@King77k-n6t 4 месяца назад
The comes a point where it all becomes too my much, when we get too tired to fight anymore so we give up, that's when the real work begins... To find hope where there seem to be absolutely none at all
@violetbadillo5632
@violetbadillo5632 4 года назад
Everyone is talking about how they shouldn’t have gotten married then in the comments but they got married after the shooting when Christian was suffering from ptsd.
@nevaeh9420
@nevaeh9420 2 года назад
Why is he acting like that’s not her decision??
@cataHP98
@cataHP98 11 лет назад
Agree I replay this video just to see his face, i love their weird friendship
@PauliElEnder
@PauliElEnder 3 года назад
This was the exact moment where i started to dislike owen
@p05ptc33
@p05ptc33 2 года назад
Same
@justasockonhere
@justasockonhere 5 месяцев назад
Cristina wasn't being selfish. She was doing the hypothetical kid a favor. Had she gone through with the pregnancy and become a mother, the kid would be growing up with a mother that didn't want it. Cristina *was* thinking about the kid and knew it wouldn't be fair for it.
@booktimebooklove789
@booktimebooklove789 2 года назад
The Song is so much dance academy 🥺❤️
@elnenebayron6872
@elnenebayron6872 2 года назад
She had the same problem when it came to Burke since he wanted to form a family and move on with Christina but again she really didn’t want to.
@hannah5204
@hannah5204 Год назад
i never really got owen. he knew she didnt want kids, and even if he didnt, he certainly knew when she chose to get an abortion. but he continued to bring this up in fights, almost in like a 'gotcha' way. 'your egoistic. you only think about yourself' but if thats just how she is, how could she ever be egoistic? it feels like owen felt entitled to her unconditional love and devotion to him, and bend over backwards to appease to what he wants out of a wife, just because he 'loves' her. like she owes him in a way? so weird. its so gross.
@liliahernandez8940
@liliahernandez8940 5 месяцев назад
Japan has not been the same babe for the help you need in a way anananahanah
@karev_is_my_pookie
@karev_is_my_pookie 10 дней назад
derek looked pissed asf
@liyahm9905
@liyahm9905 6 лет назад
This scene made me speechless..
@Jen-qy4ol
@Jen-qy4ol 11 месяцев назад
I found it weird how Christina didn't want kids, but she kept getting pregnant. Like ma'am go get your tubes cut or get a hysterectomy.
@celestialbunny
@celestialbunny 6 дней назад
i mean it's hard for women to get a hysterectomy but considering the greys anatomy world, they would have found a way for that :p plus doctors getting accidentally pregnant? um
@xxwhispersxx2856
@xxwhispersxx2856 4 года назад
And what's funny is that Owen tries to be a stay at home dad in the new season, to do everything he keeps saying he wants to do and he finds it "boring". Such a hypocrite.
@A12CH1T3CT
@A12CH1T3CT 11 лет назад
So if you marry you MUST have a kid???? wtf...
@XsweetstarliteX
@XsweetstarliteX 5 месяцев назад
This moment is when I stopped extending empathy to Owen. His toxic behaviors, aggression and cheating all because he didn’t get what he wanted. They never really showed his character developing into a better and more self-aware person…just gave him kids, swept it under the rug and paired him with Teddy.
@zarinah12
@zarinah12 12 лет назад
This was totally understandable...Christina thinks that her actions don't have consequences. She had an abortion and afterwards thought Owen was just okay. He's been holding this in for a long while and he needed to get it out. there? No. But what he said was spot on. And i firmly believe that Teddy has it coming too.
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