As some one who can’t own a fire arm for multiple reasons and as well as living the van life and never stay in one state too long I love this. In some states I can’t even vary a knife. Anything that is deadly even a simple pocket knife can get me sent away even tho I did my time and haven’t been in trouble in 11 years and made only one mistake at 21. This seems like an option for me when sleeping solo all over
The fact that I have to remember to turn the CO₂ cartridge while the shit’s getting hot makes the Gavle a nonstarter for me but I have to say that I love the 36 joule power that it provides.
Looks great guys you did an amazing job. I have the first version but haven't fired it that often but this video made me want to. Keep it up i know you guys will go far in the industry.
I think you’re moving a little backwards, because what is needed is a launcher that can easily and quickly be reloaded not one that is harder to reload and rearm. Make a more slimline unit capable of shooting “D” and Round JUL projectiles efficiently and effectively as well as easily reloaded quickly; like 1 second quick, and then you would be moving in a more forward motion. Why? You would be providing a product that is readily concealable, deployable against numerous attacker, and, if made in expensively, even if we’re say a 5 shot mag, that would enable someone to take down three or four attackers. Just FYI.
The FSC has been discontinued. There are now zero competing launchers that shoot heavy solid rounds at high velocity, without having to disassemble the launcher after 5 rounds to reload. A 12g co2 can't support more. According to the FBI five rounds or less resolve 93% of incidents. And round balls are more reliable in an emergency. Legally you can only shoot 21 ft, so no need for shaped projectiles.
I was going to buy a Byrna LE, but since there were no holiday deals I held out and found this. Now, I might pick this up instead for the holiday, but in the next version I would love to see a better reloading mechanism. That’s the only thing Byrna is doing better than y’all. Also, I wouldn’t mind open carrying an air gun if it was bringing some actual heat and act as a deterrent. Just my opinion.
For the 12 gr c02 version ? In France the standard it's 12 gr. 8gr c02 it's double price than 12 gr, That's wy it's important 12 gr. ALL of the accessoires can be shipping in France ? Its important ! THX for Alls 🇫🇷🇺🇸👍
I would love to see it with a magazine instead of having to pull the spring. Not ideal if having to reload in a hot situation. Also the protruding CO2 is undesirable. If it could have the CO2 fully inserted like the Byrna and a magazine I would be ecstatic. Extending the pistol grip length may allow this configuration.
Put them in first so they come out last. The spring pressure will be less likely to break them. The stiffer spring doesn't break irritant balls often. We're just being cautious. Also you can mix with the lighter spring. It's strong enough to push 3 JUL and 2 KinetiCS. Thx
My wife & i both carry the byna sd. The gavil is really cool. I like it a lot. The only thing i don't like is that if you have multiple targets coming at you with knife's, you are going to need more than 5 shots. Reloading seems way too time consuming. By the time you fish out the allen key, unscrew the cap, reload, & screw the cap back in the bad guys are going to be right on top of you.
If you have multiple assailants coming at you with knives you’re screwed. Watch some videos on knives attacks, even with a fire arm you’ll have a tough time defeating several guys with knives,.
It's not meant to be reloaded in the field. If any launcher is going to drive people away, it will be in the first few shots. 1 to 5. Rarely does it go to 10. In fact, Pepperball just removed the co2 from the magazine. Also, this is 3X as strong as the Byrna SD. And double the LE. Thx though.
Are you guys planning for some design that punctures the co2 easier? So there’s no twisting..something you can do with your thumb for example while it’s pointed
Yes and we are going to put it out with the magazine version but this won't be anytime soon. Honestly since we sell magazines and magazine pouches we know the vast majority of people aren't carrying an extra magazine. And this twist to puncture is the most reliable mechanism in the whole industry. So we have a strong opinion that this design is the best thing you can have in an emergency.
I was thinking of taking the pink one in CA but I think the yellow one is unique and I’d be able to distinguish it from my (future) firearms due to its colors. Plus, I might have a real pink pistol as well. 😆 😉
i love my grimburg gavel 1.5 alot! take it every where i go and on this day im glad i did ! trust me guys u dont need another mag!! its less lethal not non lethal look it up there is a difference. im out walking my dog and he runs up on a baby racoon well mamma wasnt far away and she was huge ! so she runs strait for my dog and shes just a border collie the racoon was bigger. well i had no choice pulled out the gavel a well placed shot to the head omg the gavel killed it!! but im not gonna lie i did have a 16 gram co2 with a 10 gram ball! let me just say... the gavel is bad ass and no joke with this configuration , which they dont recommend.
Imagine trying to load this weapon in middle of a dark alley..talking about oh wait I missed 2 shots dam I can't see the whole where are my projectile a d where is the screw sriver hahaha
You need quick loading magazine that changes both the CO2 & reloads the projectiles. Reloading is too slow and capacity too low. Other than that it looks pretty good.
Well thanks for the compliment but, the Department of Justice studied less lethal for a decade and found 93% of incidents we're resolved with five rounds or less. The rest required a firearm. So, load this thing at home, forget the magazine, and you won't look like someone who made their own Batman suit.😉
I do like the idea of a mag that changes the CO2 and reloads! Something that has an extra CO2 already inside, ammo as well, and can just be connected and slapped. Very good idea.
It's not a firearm if it's gas propelled is like a BB gun or an air rifle so it is a 50 caliber BB gun that shoots hard balls or powder balls like a paintball gun
I see that this nice piece of machinery is 36 joules . Sadly we in Europe are restricted and many countries have a joules limit apparently .In Spain I believe that is 24, for France 20 ? Does those 36 joules refer to the coil spring strength inside ? If so, how possible is to sell these as a option with less power and a additional quick convert kit in order to reach advertised levels again for testing purposes/target practice ? Cheers
@Zed-gb4zf There's not ONE reported instance of a magazine change. And if there is, we'd like to see it. Magazines add bulk and increase the chances of malfunction. Thx tho
Well we get it. But then we'd have to manufacture in China and Taiwan like our competitors, who in 2020 to 2021 were out of stock because you couldn't unload ships. We're not letting that happen to us. Made in America, cost a bit more. But also you got to look at the build quality. If you open these up you'll see where the money went.
Yes, in this video at 52 seconds you will see the launcher in the hand of a 5' 2" woman. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eMsxgOVgQmY.html
website says 39 Joule vs. video says 36 Joule - which is it? Also, what how many shot do you get on one co2 cart? and what the rate of in which the last round is fired compared to the 1st with a new co2 cart?
Some people buy them. Just for that reason. You're not going to get through a bears fur but people say it drives them away. It's sounds like a firearm too.
HELLO. im a huge fan of the non lethals in Metal Gear Solid and the Blue 🔵 color coding they have. Could i get a Metal Gear Solid inspired Blue version? It would be very amusing to me to broadcast that the gun is nonlethal.
Thanks for the reply! I should've been more specific, I was looking for a comparison between the two rounds assuming both are being fired from the Gavle 1.5?@@grimburglesslethal
It's been $499 for months. Made in America. Strongest launcher out of the box. It's a super high build quality. The last shot is stronger than our competitors' first shot.
So which ones better the gavle or their older model??? It seems like their older model is stronger and cheaper by a little? Can someone confirm which is better cons and pros.
You need to use the correct type of CO2. It should be food grade like for beer making. Also the hole underneath the foil has to be at least 0.1 inches wide for the piercing pin.
You can switch the rear Glock sight with another site that is Glock compatible. The front sight can be switched but it depends what aftermarket sights you buy. You have to be able to put the screw in from the top. Many of them you can.
There is no such a thing as the quick pierce button on this launcher^^It’s only the last 5:18 twist of a CO2 cartridge. So IMXO any sort of a cover is simply waisting of valuable time…When the time come of course.
@@grimburglesslethal Hello, I was searching for this comment for a long time, but here we are. I'm interested by the Gavle 1.5 but it needs a cover for the co2 and I will explain why in my opinion ( I'm a 3D mechanical designer). When the cartridge is in, but not full threatened , waiting for you to use it, what's about the inner thread in the Gavle if you wear it in a holster... ? Because every little hit on the part of the cartridge which exceeds the Gavle body, and so, a little radial move, is not good for the inner thread. There is always some wear/play that will damage the inner thread ? Even if you made a very precise hole for the cartridge, there is still an axial wear/play, if you hit sometimes the bottom of the cartridge, it can damage the thread ? I have no problem with reloading, I prefer the power. But because of this little detail about the bottom of the cartridge, I think I will finally choose a Salt Supply 2, it's a pity. Excuse me for my poor English. Thanks ( I love your products )
@@grimburglesslethal Hello, thank you for your answer. You should not be so frustrated by my question, I’m french, and I can’t get the Gavle because you can’t send it to me. So, how can I compare the quality ? I know the Galve is better because of the comments… but this co2 cartridge without any cover, is a problem. And you should not threaten me like this, you could be surprised like other engineers I humiliated in similar cases few years ago. Bye my friend !
In IL they are exempt from FOID requirements. "Firearm" means any device... excluding... any pneumatic gun... which expels a single globular projectile not exceeding .18 inch in diameter or which has a maximum muzzle velocity of less than 700 feet per second. www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=1657&ChapterID=39#:~:text=(a)%20Except%20as%20provided%20in,Identification%20Card%20which%20has%20previously In Chicago they are legal if you follow the law however, you may need a lawyer to explain the law to the judge.
I'm sorry, but your argument regarding magazines citing the FBI and DOJ as your source of information, two agencies that nobody trusts these days, is not making anyone want to buy your product.
Pepperball just removed the co2 from their TRP magazine for the same reason. They never had an instance where an officer used more than one magazine. But thx for the kind words.
@@grimburglesslethal if I get a security guard card and CA chemical certification, can I buy the kinetiCS ammo off the grimburg website? Being that I'm in Los Angeles? Or will your order page block my order when I put my location?
È davvero uarma veramente potente e carina!!... Ma purtroppo scomoda soprattutto nell' caricare i proiettili!! Preferisco le t4e,, come la mia HDR 50 umarex oppure la mia alfa chiappa , molto potenti e comode NL ricaricare e semplici e potenti!!!!.
@@grimburglesslethal no purtroppo qua in Italia senza licenza d armi pupi detenere solo al massimo fino a 7.5 joule ... Poi devi avere licenza . Xcio 11 joule sn davvero tanto qua!!
Yes stock, at 20 joules. You would need to do some upgrades to get them to this level of power and then you're about the same cost. You need to upgrade the magazine, barrel, O-rings, get the right heavy projectiles, and then you're at 1.8 in wide, trying to conceal it comfortably.
I believe this might be a quality over price thing. At the performance level you see from these it would take a substantial investment in time and hardware to even match the power output on these launchers. Also, and I cant stress this enough, these folks are always in development and improving. They are only going to get better and better. One other small point. You'll notice that they always answer comments and questions. I can tell you from personal experience that they also always answer emails as well. This is a HUGE plus for any company. They actually care about their customer base. Don't let that point slip by folks... Its rare these days.
@@javascriptkiddie2718 True BUT.... Think of this as self defense without the risk of jail time and certainly without the risk of killing someone. Besides, what does a decent defense attorney cost these days :) Collateral damage is also overlooked a lot of the time. If you fire and your round passes through your target, or you miss your target, and hit or kill someone behind them...... Well..... Your life is over as you know it. I like to think of these as all of the protection with none of the associated "issues" that could arise. (AKA Taking them across state lines, laws that prevent carrying, moronic states that refuse to allow their citizens to protect themselves, their family, and their communities) Oh, and make NO mistake. These WILL put a person down. Have a great day man! @javascriptkiddie2718
@@profitglen Well thanks. Please keep an eye on our RU-vid page. We do announce when we have a blemished unit. We manufacture in America and to very tight tolerances. It does end up costing more. Thank you for the interest though
From what I have read, which please don't take this as legal advice, im not a lawyer, the hi viz california color has to do with imitation firearm laws in california, which pertain to brandishing. If you are concealed carrying for the purpose of self defense, this launcher will never be showed or brandished. Conceal whatever color you want, I suppose the reason they advertise their sunflower yellow for california is for the miniscule population that may want to open carry this for some reason. Seriously just buy it in the color you want, it's not a firearm and has no penal codes that I'm aware of in california to carry it on your body concealed in whatever color you choose.
