Ground Type Pokemon Moves are Confusing... | Gnoggin 

“It’s like having a move called Temperature” Gamefreak: *WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN*

That Fearow running animation honestly was way funnier than it had any right to be.

"I've used the dig in pun in every video that relates to Ground type pokemon. And I am Sorry." No you're not.

Ground Utilizes the earth in any way. Rock specifically utilizes Stones. Think of it like Normal/Fighting, similar concepts, but one is applied in a more specific manner than the other.

"It's basically like stepping on a lego, but the lego is designed to be as sharp and painful as possible" Wait, isn't this already the case?

6:48 the fun fact for this move also has an interesting quirk that, I don't know if it's changed, but frustrated my friend in either gen 3 or 4. Opponants flygon used dig. He used earthquake to counter. Earthquake missed due to levitate... Despite being underground...

I feel like bone attacks should be rock just because bones are very hard, like rocks? But also should be able to knock a bird out of the sky if thrown.

"Magnitude: this move cannot be used. It should be forgotten. It cannot be remembered when forgotten" made me laugh so hard

“It makes sense that Pokémon that are Flying type are immune to Ground.” Doduo: Yeah... Makes sense...

Stomping tantrum makes sense to be ground type because it’s like earthquake and magnitude where the Pokémon stomps the ground, making it shake and causing damage with that.

One thing about the move Bulldoze: Its japanese name translates to "smooth over" and I've also seen it translated to "level ground." This makes me think that the attack is a surface level shock wave meant to topple over standing structures. A pokemon standing on the ground as it shakes so violently would probably lose their footing and fall down, explaining why the target's speed goes down when they are hit. It would also explain why Bulldoze doesn't affect burrowing targets like Earthquake and Magnitude do.

"All of these Pokemon have drills" Yes that's favorite part of Mew's design, the massive drill poking out of its forehead

"It's not every day you get hit by a femur."

"There's nothing normal about that. You don't get hit every day with a bare femur" 😂

"Mud Slap doesn't make sense. You're not slapping mud on your opponent." Slap is an onomatopeia: Is a sound you get when you hit something flat, either with your hand, or with something moist and pliable, like _m u d._

What makes less sense is how Ash's Pikachu can affect ground types...

I can just imagine ferrow spinning around in circles mid air while running into an opponent

I always like to imagine that mudshot was a high pressured blast of mud like water gun. This is mostly from Heart Gold and Soul Silver with the animation used for that.

Sad psyduck T-shirt? "Life sucks a bit more now"

Lockstin: Why can Lucario learn Bone rush? Me: Anubis, Egyptian jackal god of graveyards and death, known for judging the hearts of the dead as they enter the underworld

Lucario learning bone moves actually makes sense with some research! It is based on jackals, who are known to chew their prey down to the bone and then carry bones around with them to clean their teeth. Also, jackals are what Anubus is based on, and you can see hints of this god in its design, and due to to Anubus' whole death/afterlife thing, bones make sense for it as well.

Why everyone is attacking psyduck? He has the type advantage

I'm pretty sure Game Freak made sandstorm rock type so that their spaghetti code didn't mess up and make it so that flying types could just straight up wall off an entire weather change.

Noggin: "somehow Lucario learns bone rush and I don't get it" Lucario: angry dog noises

"I guess that's the power of Aura and marketing trying to make Lucario be the coolest guy ever." Well they succeeded this Jackal like pokemon is as much of a mascot for Pokemon as Pikachu and Charizard are. And I'm not mad at that cause that Pokemon is TIGHT.

lockstin: “it’s basicly like stepping on a lego but the lego is desinged to be as sharp and painfull as possible.” me: so, just a lego?

mud sport seems like something to help non-ground types because ground types are immune to electric

6:46 "big dig" lol

I’d make High Horsepower a Steel Type move. Horseshoes are metallic, after all.

“Shoring up” is an idiom that means to reinforce something. In this case, it’s a pun because it’s a sand castle.

Fearow spinning towards it's enemies at the speed of sound

"Its basically a Lego, but the Lego is designed to be as sharp and painful as possible" So... a lego..?

When you think of "Ground" as "Earth", a lot of the moves here make sense. Most moves that are Ground-type affect the earth, either manipulation of it or using things from it.

High horsepower does make sense, when you consider how it was introduced. You mentioned it was the signature move of the Mudsdale line, which is right, but you said it just for stab. That's not entirely accurate- Mudsdale doesnt have normal horseshoes, instead it's legs and feet are protected by a thick coat of mud. So when it uses High Horsepower, it's giving you a fully body mud tackle. Hence why other pokemon can use it- it's just a muddy version of tackle.

The differences between Rock and Ground Types in Pokemon lines up fairly well with the contrast between Stone and Earth Toa powers in Bionicle.

4:52 The master strategist that is Dale.

2:02 I'm getting some Wiley Coyote and Roadrunner vibes...

Thousand Arrows is a good example on why flying NEEDS to be immune to ground. Without it, ground type attacks are pretty damn op.

I'd be down to have a move called Temperature. It could be an ice type attack 50% of the time and a fire type attack the other 50% of the time.

"I don't like sand, it's coarse, rough, irritating and it gets everywhere" - Anakin

Game freak really did garchomp's mega evolution dirty.

Hope you’re doing alright Lockstin, I hope you can keep putting out some great content, this series is one of my favourites on YT. Keep safe & healthy!

Honestly I really liked High Horsepower as mudsdales signature move. It made sense because his legs are coated in a thick mud, so a kick from him would be very earthy. In gen 8, they made it incredibly common, practically a staple ground move. It lost its luster becoming "single target earthquake"

I love how all the intros (with the skeleton dude) are different and related to the video!!

“There’s nothing normal about getting hit with a bare femur” I love this man.

4:51 Ah yes, the Wily Dale Gribble, the Nutcase Pokemon.

There’s a case to be made for the bone moves to be ghost type rather than ground. Any bone you’d use as a weapon would likely be from something dead (and as a result might be haunted), and the Cubone line especially is already strongly associated with ghosts. Plus ghost type moves used to be all physical, just like the bone moves, so the thick club still would’ve given them a boost

Now that I have watched Jojo, Thousand Arrows actually reminds me of when Secco from Jojo Part 5 spits dirt into the sky, then as the dirt hardens, it hardens in a long, arrow-like shape, causing them to fall fast and do lots of damage. I wonder is Thousand Arrows was actually inspired by that moment in Jojo XD

“So it’s just a big dig” and there went my coffee through my nose thx lockstin😂😭

1:55 I mean, its JP name is Onidrill.

Him: spikes is basically like stepping on a Lego, but the Lego is designed to be a sharp and painful as possible Me: Are Legos not already designed to be as painful as possible?

“It’s kinda hard to keep fighting when the ground eats you.” *Ruiner Nergigante would disagree*

That animation of Fearow running on the ground is outright blursed.

Lucario learns bone club because it is based on Anubis, the Egyptian god of death. Death=bones or something

Drill run should be steel-type because drills are basically all made of metal. As much as I love having my Beedrill being able to KO steel-types easily, the move would make more sense as steel

The 3D pokemon models in super realistic settings looks really really cool by the way, would be cool to see more of that

Sandslash, use sand tomb It's super effective RIP Mario I laughed so hard when I saw that and I honestly dont know why

"The Lego is designed to be a sharp and painful as possible." - so it's basically the same Lego XD

“We are made of dirt!” Me: That’s why I am worthless!

Not so much a change needed for lore reasons but I really want to see the sport moves give immunity to a typing rather than lowering power. Imagine making a team with a gaping electric weakness then your feraligatr pulls out mud sport and is immune to thunderbolt for 5 turns. Kind of like the electric move that makes you immune to ground. That move can be pretty useful

10:30 That’s because it’s Lucario’s kekkei genkai

YES! POCKET SAND! Anyway, as far as ground type works, I've actually always wanted GF to expand more on how LEVITATE works. I've always thought Pokemon, like Flying Pokemon, needed to have physiological immunities and resistances to certain types based on MORE than just primary typing, and Levitate, and other abilities like Storm Drain and Flash Fire support this. However, the line is blurred when you have CLEARLY OBVIOUSLY LEVITATING POKEMON like Magnezone, Weezing, and Gengar, who are susceptible to ground type moves. I understand that Weezing for the most part naturally has levitate, but with the inclusion of its neutralizing gas and hidden ability, the STILL LEVITATING Weezing is still susceptible to ground, and Gengar has been changed from levitating to not probably for balancing reasons because it's an extremely fast and powerful Pokemon who keeps getting special unique forms and abilities that break the game a bit too much. Magnezone I can even understand as justified because it's affected so strongly by the magnetic forces of the Earth itself, which means that Ground Type is also blurred with Electric Type over how certain moves make effect. And all of this leading up to the biggest offender of being hit by ground moves when they shouldn't, VENOMOTH! I get that being Bug/Flying is cliche and stupid, but the damn thing is like 60% wings! Sure, its poison is SO STRONG that it is first and foremost seen as a venomous insect, than just mundanely referred to as a flying insect, but for God's sake! Beedrill is on the same boat, and frankly what I think SHOULD happen is that GF should entirely remove the levitate ability and just have a special little status category for whether or not a pokemon is "Grounded". Sure, some might say it would GREATLY imbalance the game mechanics for certain Pokemon because they'd essentially have 2 abilities, like Gengar having both Levitate and Cursed Body at the same time, and some might argue that that is the case anyway for Flying Type Pokemon since birds like Noctowl get to be immune to ground regardless and additionally immune to sleep through Insomnia, and others STILL will argue that the tradeoff for the immunity to ground is a weakness to rock, electric, and ice, such that a Pokemon with levitate has to give up its entire special ability slot just for such a huge advantage. But I honestly think that with all the imbalanced power creep that already exists anyway, and all of the quality of life changes made to affect certain logistics of the world instead of just piling on more and more stupidity each generation, that eventually this change needs to be made. Or maybe GF will eventually implement 3 types, and have it specifically so that the THIRD type you have doesn't hav any of its weaknesses but only the resistances and immunities (which would be even stupider and more contrived) (and wouldn't help with situations like Weezing who is pure Poison), or maybe GF will eventually implement Pokemon naturally having TWO Abilities at once, one being primarily Physical Quality (like levitating or having a Flame Body) and one being primarily Special in nature (like summoning a Drought or having a Magic Bounce forcefield) but not be mutually exclusive either, so a Pokemon like Magnezone could have a mix of 2 arguably physical traits like levitating and being Sturdy, or levitating and having a strong magnetic pull.

I see the moves of the same type that are basically the same as levels of mastery over the type itself. For example: Magnitude being an inferior version of Earthquake, were moves like sand attack are for beginners, magnitude is the a intermediate level and earthquake would be an advanced/improved version of the move were the pokemon can already inflict a more defined and clearly more powerful amount of damage than it did with magnitude.

I've always found it a little funny that Game Freak would bother to make two types in Generation I that are barely distinguishable from each other (Rock and Ground), but they couldn't be bothered to make sure Psychic had a viable weakness (Dark didn't exist, Psychic was immune to Ghost, Bug had virtually no offensive presence...)

I guess Sandstorm is Rock type so that it affects Flying types as well. I mean, flying in a sandstorm can NOT be easy...

For Mud slap I always imagined that the reason it’s called that because the mud is slapping the other pokemon

The difference between Fearow's Drill Peck and Drill Run is the magical power or aura behind the move. And so Flying types have a natural immunity to Ground based moves.

Shore up is what surfers say when the tide is low. So that means there’s more sand on the beach

6:46 Nah, if it were a Big Dig, it would take 25 years to finish.

Now that you’ve given me some perspective on the moves, I have some ideas for alternate types to 2 of the moves mentioned. High Horsepower should be steel. It would make the in game animation make sense, as that’s what horseshoes are made of, and also horsepower is commonly used for cars. Which are made of metal. Stomping tantrum I think could work as a dark type move. I mean, it’s basically the Pokémon thrashing around out of anger, and if they missed earlier they get even angrier and do more damage. Something that petty totally fits the dark type!

Remember when Groudon used ground time moves on a flying Mega X Charizard(not flying type... but flying still) and on Rayquaza? they need to go and add more to the moves, a whole overhaul of the battle system imo. The moves and the typing of the pokemon.

Oh how cute it is ~ That feeling, when your mood is a little earthen, and here is a new video about the moves of the ground type. The devil definitely hid in these details.

11:38 That's not a good enough reason for Spikes to be Ground-type, because Sticky Web(Bug) and Toxic Spikes(Poison) dont effect Flying, Levitate or Air Ballooned pokemon either.

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I wouldn't change any move typings, but I would change ground moves as a whole to not miss fliers and instead just make the few abilities that it makes sense for to not hit fliers.

I love these analysis videos. This is the kind of overthinking I did for years as a kid. ❤️

4:32 "The pokemon uses geomancy to create a sandstorm" Bu...But geomancy is a fairy type move...

Ground type: are cool The fact they are literally DIRT: am i a joke to you

15:23 Fun fact: The Portuguese word for "Earth" and "dirt" are the same, so for me it makes sense

13:21 I don’t know why but I though the wooloo was using fissure

They are confusing, just not at all grounded in reaility.

"The user throws sand in the face of their opponent... ...which gets sand in their eyes. So now their accuracy is lower... ... because they have sand in their eyes. Their life is a little bit worse now... ...because they have sand in their eyes."

Lockstin: It's basically like stepping on a Lego but the Lego is made to be as sharp and painful as possible. Me, a person who has cut there entire bottom foot open by stepping on Legos: I don't see the difference.

could the only reason why sandstorm is rock and not ground is so that flying types wouldn't be immune to that weather effect?

I love the way y’all edit your videos and I’m gonna be sad when this series is over.

I feel like the bone moves are more based on fossils, and like fossils are found in the ground, but most of the time, they are essentially rock them selves so it would make more sense as rock maybe

And about stomping tantrum. When is a kid most likely to throw a tantrum? When they're Grounded.

Remark to Shore Up: The popular holiday peninsula "Sylt" in Germany loses it's shore increasingly, to the point that they are transporting sand TO THE BEACH to keep it from disappearing entirely

"OOOH BE CAREFUL NOW.THE GROUND IS SPIKY! TOO BAD IM FIGHTING A BIRD!" "HAHA WHATDA GONNA DO ABOUT THAT?" That actually sounds like something those two would say in battle lol, they're both so sassy and sarcastic.

First time I discovered you when I started playing pokemon go and I fall in love in these videos, I don't play it anymore, but, I still love you

besides the goofy game mechanics, some moves that are confusing could be explained by... i guess we should assume that the different types are usin a specific type of energy the pokemon are specifically producing. Mudsdale is using "ground type" energy to pull off this move. it kinda ruins it when it stops bein its signature move tho.

3:55 : yay! FFIV music! 😁 so happy to hear music this good again!

I was always under the impression that Stomping Tantrum was ground type because the pokemon is stomping their feet in anger which is making the ground shake.

6:45 I misheard that, you know quarantine is forcing me to rely on it more nowadays.

my thought is that rock represents the 'dead' earth, the inanimate stuff that is solid and doesn't move. ground type moves on the other hand represent the 'living' earth, the active and moving stuff, and the related spiritual energy.

I just wanna say your videos are really helping me through a tough time. Thank you much Austin! Love from Singapore!

Maybe Lucario learns bone rush because it's kind of almost based on Anubis, the god of death.

"What is worse then stepping on a Lego?" "A spike." "What is worse then stepping on a spike?" "A landmine."

Who edits these videos?! It is simply amazing. Props to you, editor

I always pictured Drill Run as the pokemon running on the ground and shoveling their drill/horn/beak into the ground and then hitting the target with that. Kinda like a plane that's burying the nose into the ground as they crash land.