GRX Goes Wireless! GCN's First Look At The NEW GRX Di2 Groupset

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The NEW Shimano GRX... It's here, and it's electronic! Jump aboard as Si takes a first look at Shimano's new groupset, and find out what he loves about it the most.
In association with ‪@RideShimano‬
00:00 Shimano GRX Di2 Is Here!
00:50 So Where Will We Test It Out?
01:40 The New Components
02:54 The Advantages Of Wireless
03:15 Gravel-Specific Levers
04:19 The NEW Anti-Slip Coating
04:52 Programmable 3rd Button
05:28 Rear Derailleur Specs
06:12 Cassette Options
06:40 Front Chainrings And Derailleur
07:14 Shimano E-Tube App
08:16 GRX Pedals
08:30 What Does It All Weigh?
09:03 How Much Does It Cost?
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@gcn Месяц назад

What do you think of the new Shimano GRX Di2? Let us know 👇

@bikeshowcc Месяц назад

Kind of a tasty appetizer before the expected feast;]

@ashleyhouse9690 Месяц назад

2x and 11-36 only, what are Shimano thinking? SRAM xplr for me.

@userdjee834 Месяц назад

I think it didn't upgrade to the new Ultegra/DA front derailleur, so it still has old 105/old Ultegra/11sp GRX front derailleur. Which is a bi*** because that new front derailleur is what I was waiting for, more than 12x. Nice of you to dance around it in your presentation

@peterthe46er Месяц назад

Still no low gears for grx. How about a 40/24 crankset with that 11-36 cassette?

@JanKowalski-ux6nt Месяц назад

Which groupsets were the best in shimano's history? I don't care about weight but rather precision of shifting, durability, ease of service... Choose from road, mtb and gravel gear. Thanks

@markusmencke8059 Месяц назад

The coating coming from fishing didn’t really surprise me. Shimano still makes some of the finest reels and fishing rods on the planet, after all.

@gcn Месяц назад

We should do a gravel/bikepacking fishing adventure, full Shimano equipped!

@markusmencke8059 Месяц назад

@@gcn like, going gravel bikepacking in Scotland and fishing for salmon or trout or doing fly fishing? Or some saltwater fishing along the coast? Sounds like a (rough concept of a) video script. 😀

@chrisridesbicycles Месяц назад

I was surprised because it‘s on MTB brake levers for years. Maybe they had to make the detour to fishing because of the „spirit of gravel“.

@naskofilms4077 Месяц назад

@@gcn You will catch more fish running sram

@kalijasin Месяц назад

@@naskofilms4077LOL 😆

@waklerma Месяц назад

Why are the 12 speed GRX groupsets (mechanical or Di2) still officially limited to 11-34/36? I run a 11-40 SLX cassette on my GRX 11-speed with 46-30 chainrings. I still get enough gears for higher speeds/flats, but more help on steep gravel ascents. This should be the standard!

@VeselenyiVlado Месяц назад

so is 11 speed... but you can fit even 42 in there, issue for me isnt what on spec sheet but if it works, and for 12 speed there is no 40t or 42t cassette, only 45t and that will be maybe too much?

@waklerma Месяц назад

@@VeselenyiVlado I agree, it‘s important what works! My local bike shop even checked it and installed it flawlessly. A friend runs 11-46 on 1by GRX without any issue either (11-42 is max per spec). I still think the spec is stupid. I have not checked for 12 speed cassettes yet since my bikes are 11 speed 😉

@wurm8648 Месяц назад

Couldn't agree more. I'm a big dude with hills around me. I need low gears for climbing, but I also don't want to spin out at 20 mph.

@MarkArthur Месяц назад

This is exactly on point. I run 46/30 11-40 too on grx 11s. I never wanted to touch SRAM until I tried a bike with XPLR 1x. Now I'm a sram fan when it comes to gear ratios. I could have been a Shimano loyalist but they just don't give enough low gears to people! SRAM is actually the Groupset of the people in my books, more so now with the more affordable apex.

@craighumphreys9482 Месяц назад

Glad Shimano is sticking with 2x, Shimano are pretty good at it. Just having that option to suddenly drop down to a smaller ring instead of getting caught out when turning the corner after riding a long section of flat road is great. Also chain line is better and sensible size cassettes that don't cost a fortune.

@gcn Месяц назад

Great to hear from a 2x lover 🙌

@ZombyScorps Месяц назад

Finally I can change the front derailleur of my 105 di2 for my bikepacking setup! Now what I really want is a shorter, thinner charging cable! That cable is seriously overkill for long distance riders that need to bring it on their trips, not the sexiest tech, but a much needed one!!!

@DrAlvinEng Месяц назад

LOVE hearing and seeing all the new Tech thank you!

@gcn Месяц назад

We do too 🙌

@GrouEEf Месяц назад

Can't wait for the front shift button :). I always wondered why they didn't do it previously.

@JMatic-xk9vq Месяц назад

Finally wireless shifters and rear derailleur charging an 12 gears. All I wanted from Shimano. No experiments - well done Shimano!

@huntos83 Месяц назад

To me they’ve not done enough here to make it a worthwhile step from the current 11-speed Di2. The obvious step would have been to allow for a much bigger cassette like 11-40t, frankly I’m disappointed they haven’t done this.

@kippen64 Месяц назад

It's rather nice. I want. It's not often I can sit through an entire product launch video, but this one I did easily.

@JonCannings Месяц назад

That's what we like to hear

@gcn Месяц назад

Music to our ears! 👌

@scottbradley9462 Месяц назад

Love my grx 12 x 1. Best groupset I have ridden.

@gcn Месяц назад

It's pretty great kit isn't it 🔥

@gkunz3 Месяц назад

We long time Di2 users sure wish we had that finally developed app.

@stewheelie7874 Месяц назад

I guess I am a SRAM Red Etap gear shifter tragic, I just love it. I have a 12 speed Durace DI2 semi synchro on one bike and after market Red Etap on the road bike. I will be giving the Front Shift Next a go for sure, thanks for the tip.

@robertwyland7770 Месяц назад

Oh, yeah... another thing to purchase to keep up with Jones' . This constant arms race of componetry is nuts!

@lexington476 Месяц назад

5:08 that will be the button to launch the proton torpedo 😀😎.

@gcn Месяц назад

That's the ejector seat 👀

@melibaut Месяц назад

Good luck Si!

@jimmyc3594 Месяц назад

Simon use your pull to get them to make a Di2 looking left hand dropper post lever! I couldn’t bring myself to ride Di2 with mismatched levers!!

@davidrene2141 Месяц назад

I use to mix with XTR di2 11-46 cassette and single GRX 46 on the front ratio 1:1. The next step it’s to ride with classified hub and cassette 11-30 with front single ring. The best option to avoid the double ring crankset;)

@francescodiprisco6200 Месяц назад

Big Thumb Up !

@HighFell Месяц назад

I have GRX 11 speed 1x: gear range is poor for a gravel bike unless you only ride gentle hills, no bike packing or have superhuman power! The shift is superb and at no time have I ever thought it’s not fast enough. I will be upgrading to Campagnolo Ekar, a gear cable is absolutely fine but flexibility of cassettes is more important.

@petersouthernboy6327 Месяц назад

I race gravel in the SE US - and SRAM AXS really got their teeth into the gravel market four years ago. What has taken Shimano so long to catch up? And I’d argue that Shimano still hasn’t caught up - where’s the power meter and 1x ?

@defiancecycling Месяц назад

SRAM owns gravel here in the southeast. New SRAM Red will cut into the roadie side as well.

@petersouthernboy6327 Месяц назад

@@defiancecycling I’m seriously considering buying the new Red shifters this Summer and retrofitting them to my existing AXS groupset.

@squngy0 Месяц назад

@@defiancecycling Honestly, this new GRX seems like it would actually compete pretty well against the new RED? A bit heavier, but much cheaper.

@defiancecycling Месяц назад

@@squngy0 don't get me wrong. I use Shimano Di2 on the road and have for years. However, Shimano doesn't offer enough gearing for more mountainous terrain, IMHO. This group would be great on the road in the mountains but I'll stick with the versatility of SRAM Mullet gearing for now. I'll likely upgrade to the new RED shifters later this year.

@defiancecycling Месяц назад

@@petersouthernboy6327 💯 the thing to do. I'm planning to do the same. Another bonus for SRAM is compatibility.

@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 Месяц назад

I was at an event where a guy crashed on his LH Di2 11 speed GRX lever, ripped it clean off the bars. the shifter still worked tho': he put it in his pocket and changed gears from there. I looked it up when I got home: $AUD450 (£220, $USD275). Fun way to spend your afternoon, innit?

@gcn Месяц назад

Wow what an amazing effort to finish the ride 👌

@byrondixon4648 Месяц назад

Great review as always. The only comment I thought, that's not true in my experience was regarding the clutch detailer. 'Very important when off road'. Currently using Tiagra 4700 rear derailleur, on the gravel bike with no issues. Have used a GRX with a clutch and it is better, but not 'Very important' better. It's probably the last upgrade I'd consider.

@gcn Месяц назад

Interesting! It will probably all depend on how rough the riding you are doing it 🪨

@morapelimokokomali7907 Месяц назад

@gcn can you please do a road safety episode? I mean cameras, best practices, cycling etiquette etc.

@chrisridesbicycles Месяц назад

It‘s about time. I guess we will see the 1x rear mech for the bigger cassettes together with new MTB DI.2 soon. And I am pretty sure we will see the GRX rear mech for 2x in Roubaix.

@gcn Месяц назад

We believe that Peter Sagan has already used GRX components at the classics 👀

@chrisridesbicycles Месяц назад

@@gcn Clever man. For the last years it was difficult because GRX was still 11 speed.

@tr4nnel752 Месяц назад

I don't understand the new front shift button? There is already a button for up and down shifting for the front derailleur right?

@gavinm717gkm Месяц назад

Used a stick instead of a shadow stand. Not in biggy smalls. Left the water bottle on the bike… It’s just a nice for me.

@JonCannings Месяц назад

Consider Si told off!

@gcn Месяц назад

Hahahaha shhhhhh... don't tell the Tech crew 🤫

@BERGAMOGRAVEL Месяц назад

sounds good but when they will consider the possibility to integrate a power meter like SRAM? 😞

@peterthomas8053 Месяц назад

I've got mechanical GRX 11spd on my gravel bike, and I love it. 12spd Di2 would be nice, but it wouldn't make me any faster. It would however, lighten my wallet somewhat. One of My Summer road bikes does have Ultregra Di2, and while it is sublime to use , I could quite happily cope with mechanical on that. I always judge my experience on my rides using the 'grin factor'. And my gravel bike exceeds the required 'grin factor' level on that bike. Therefore, Winner Winner Chicken Dinner.😂

@gcn Месяц назад

This top end group set is certainly not needed but it's a great bit of kit for those that want it. Grin factor is the only way to judge a ride by 🙌 Having great new kit like this makes us really grin. Keep up the good vibes on the bike 🙌

@francescosaturnino113 Месяц назад

The two hood buttons already give me 6 commands for my garmin (short press, long press, double press), will I now get 9 of them? Will be hard to memorise 😂

@ltdanyj Месяц назад

The extra button on the left lever- Will it talk to any of the wireless dropper posts????

@___Bebo___ Месяц назад

Crank kinda looks like the square taper 7 speed chain wheel that comes on grocery bikes. Always thought that crank looked decent

@mathieuthomas-guy5501 Месяц назад

I think its an awesome kit, wants me to go DI2 for all those features, really like the wireless., Got the mechanical now but got to say it doesn't shift as great as my trusty downtube shifter 600 ultegra, kinda like they give the room for an improvement. As always great review, I really like the bird singing, I dont think we have these in eastern Canada, Ollie?

@gcn Месяц назад

Are you still rocking downtube shifters? We love to hear it 🙌 Di2 is really great, that crisp shifting is amazing when riding through the gravel 👌

@mathieuthomas-guy5501 Месяц назад

@@gcn converted my old racer with flat bar and Mtb brake levers, perfect commuter, still with toe-clips too!

@ViktorNavotny Месяц назад

I remember when Shimano launch GRx 12sp mechanica, they remarked that majority of gravel riders are still using mechanical, hence no di2 😮

@StuartA1985 Месяц назад

Wrap a Grail CF with this and sign me up. Been waiting for this release.

@gcn Месяц назад

What a combo 🙌

@noutd Месяц назад

Does anyone know which shoes Si is wearing at 0:38? I can see the DMT logo, but cannot find which model shoes those are.

@DavidMackenzie Месяц назад

Waiting for a 1x version

@gcn Месяц назад

not a 2x lover?

@DavidMackenzie Месяц назад

@@gcn happy with 2x on my road bike, but for gravel / all-road I like the simplicity of 1x.

@galenkehler Месяц назад

Yeah this is a huge miss for a supposed "gravel" groupset when there are so many gravel bikes that are 1x only (at least practically, without reducing tire clearance or such)

@amilnoodeling964 Месяц назад

super nice tech!!! i was waiting for this one but why not 1X come on 🤷🏻‍♂️

@LONEWOLF-fc5xs Месяц назад

2x10 or 2x9 is inn...wee need more chain life

@kayy-03 Месяц назад

I get that the new front shifting feature is technically a free update, but as the levers can't be updated wirelessly, it means I will either have to go to a bike shop and probably pay a few bucks just to get it updated, or I'll need to spend almost 40€ worth of cables and adapters just to connect the levers for the update. Can't really call that free

@Chris._P._Bacon Месяц назад

Oh look! They put on the new SRAM shifters......or is it the other way around?

@nejcbizjak7555 Месяц назад

shimano is the leading/best in fishing

@scherzo0o Месяц назад

There is this Rotor 11-39 cassette, 12 speed. I'd love to use it in an 1x12 setup with this groupset. Will the rear derailleur accomodate (unofficially) the three extra teeth?

@lechprotean Месяц назад

yes, up to 42t works fine with both old and new grx, mechanical and di2

@Dexxyh Месяц назад

You say its 2x only, but as a cx rider I'm 11-34 is actually fine with a 40/42 chainset. Are you saying it doesnt actually function in 1x or it does, but not useful for gravel?

@squngy0 Месяц назад

It just means Shimano is not including a 1x chainring in the box. If you buy this as a groupset you will not have the option to not also buy the FD and 2x chainring (for now)

@Elly_Elly254 Месяц назад

Thatss wickkeeddd❤❤😅

@piotrwojcik1756 Месяц назад

Was waiting for that 😀. Is back derailleur compatible with 105 di2 ? If it is ,only need rear derailleur for my gravel bike to be 100 % gravely

@Hydun Месяц назад

Most di2 components are cross compatible

@gcn Месяц назад

Shimano have this great compatibility chart on their website 👉 gcn.eu/Shimanoroadcompatability

@vincentdiduca6308 Месяц назад

What size grail are you riding

@h1n1worm Месяц назад

hoping with 1x di2 shimano will offer new cassettes and goddamn 44t chainrings...

@ausbrook Месяц назад

Wonder how this compares to SRAMs group set that GCN just shared a week ago.

@RyonBeachner Месяц назад

Top level GRX is Ultegra/Force level according to Shimano, and this is a Gravel groupset, not Road.

@squngy0 Месяц назад

It's a bit heavier. Other than that, it seems to me like they are actually pretty similar?

@bennetthasty7886 Месяц назад

I’m guessing my next bike in the future will be a wireless shifting ❤🎉

@JonCannings Месяц назад

Looks like you are ready for an upgrade!

@gcn Месяц назад

Do it do it do it 😉

@jimthebikeguy Месяц назад

The issue with this really is that 105di2 does the same job for less money, and you could just mix that with an older 11spd grx crankset for the same result. The clutch doesnt matter.

@kinger5225 Месяц назад

The price is absurd. $2k USD for a groupset is crazy. That costs double the price for what I paid for my Scott Speedster Gravel.

@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 Месяц назад

Unfortunately cycling has turned into a hobby for people who have far more money than sense.

@axuh382 Месяц назад

Doesn't make a lot sense to update my current groupset since I can get proper bike for the same price

@AndrewisTri-tn1uo Месяц назад

It's meant to be absurd. There's no real intention to sell it standalone. They make groupsets to sell bikes. It's something that works for the groupset maker, the bike makers and the consumers. For the 0.1% of people that are doing custom builds, the price isn't a problem, so they might as well jack the margin up there.

@LCNismo Месяц назад

Sounds like broke people problems.

@LCNismo Месяц назад

@@paddymurphy-oconnor8255maybe you should get a better paying job then.

@kirutrailic8227 Месяц назад

Could you combine it with Ultegra 52-36 crankset? I would like to have these gears: 52/36 + 11-34

@gcn Месяц назад

You can check the compatibility charts here 👉 gcn.eu/Shimanoroadcompatability

@Gk2003m 9 дней назад

So if I’m racing, someone can prevent me from shifting by simply jamming that radio frequency? If I’m on a ride-camp trip where there’s no charging station available, by the middle of day two I can no longer shift? Some ideas are great. Wireless shifting is not one of them.

@paultushingham6816 Месяц назад

I can't keep up Shimano tech.. I'm running 11speed GRX 810 mechanical 1 x... so will this new groupset make faster or just rinse my pocket 🤔

@gcn Месяц назад

If you're enjoying your current groupset keep on going. Di2 and 12 speed is amazing but it's all about finding what works for you and your budget 🙌

@tonyg3091 Месяц назад

I only have one question-is 46/30 crank with 40t cassette possible? If not, I keep my mech GRX.

@lechprotean Месяц назад

mechanically, the RD is the same as mechanical 12sp GRX so it will easily accommodate up to 42t with just the b screw adjustment

@tonyg3091 Месяц назад

@@lechprotean Thank you. 42t doesnt work well, 40t however works like a charm. So, if I go Di2 I still could use my crankset and cassette, that right?

@richiejames928 Месяц назад

I wish GRX would offer 165 cranks across the ENTIRE range… if I want 165s on my 1x set up I have to drop down to the entry level crankset… it ain’t right.

@AlbaTech Месяц назад

Still no 12 speed 1x Di2 GRX with a useable gear range, WTAF Shimano?

@Anaesdoc Месяц назад

A real bargain! 😅

@doudoukong9274 Месяц назад

How will it be retro compatible with the « old » 11s GRX di2 ?

@gcn Месяц назад

hi! Thanks for the comment, Shimano have a very handy and comprehensive guide regarding compatibility > phycbqxcopzgcmj6yj6xdbogki0wsiwo.lambda-url.ap-northeast-1.on.aws/en/compatibility/C-454#C-454 👍

@JustOneWolf Месяц назад

yeah, no thank you shimano - love my wired 2x GRX and definitely cba to charge stuff that works flawlessly without wireless

@AjaySadasivan-dt6tx Месяц назад

We should do a GCN presenter challenge, put all the different shifters in front of a blindfolded presenter, who has to guess the group set. Oh and I mean ALL, campag, Shimano, SRAM, mechanical, electronic, all of the above,

@JonCannings Месяц назад

Every generation of every model!

@AjaySadasivan-dt6tx Месяц назад

@@JonCannings exactly! This is the kinda content we want!

@JonCannings Месяц назад

@@AjaySadasivan-dt6tx the loser has to ride fixed wheel for a year

@AjaySadasivan-dt6tx Месяц назад

@JonCannings I was thinking they have to wear gmbn kit on the channel for a few weeks, a year is a bit much, events and all

@gcn Месяц назад

Ooo that could be fun! 💡

@vincem5 Месяц назад

but are the cranks still going to break?!?!

@Fedelia86 Месяц назад

Not sure what's the point of this, given that 1x is dominating gravel and they lack a sensibly priced variant. I don't see the appeal of this over XPLR AXS.

@strupotter Месяц назад

Everyone's waiting for XTR 12 speed Di2 to come out later this year or next, then Shimano will just use that rear mech for GRX 1x Di2

@simonvanpraet6543 Месяц назад

Is gravel still hipster enough to release new products for?

@JonCannings Месяц назад

Certainly!

@gcn Месяц назад

*GCN admin twirls moustache and cracks knuckles 😎

@scottchaney4573 Месяц назад

cant get it to order you a pizza. that sounds like a challenge to me

@silverburn55 Месяц назад

You forgot to include the weight of the battery…

@ThisHandleIsAlreadyTaken839 Месяц назад

The gcn guy that has to respond to comments is working overtime 💀

@gcn Месяц назад

Anything for the content 🙌

@endcensorship874 Месяц назад

cribbing from SRAM Red. Or is SRAM Red cribbing from Shimano?

@RomanAroundSF Месяц назад

2500 for a group set that cost maybe 200 bucks to make. Insane.

@gcn Месяц назад

don't forget the R&D costs too

@RomanAroundSF Месяц назад

@@gcn youre absolutly not wrong there. But come on guys 2500 is a little up there. Im still rocking my old ultegra set haha Also i always wanted to ask you guys cause ive been watching you for years. How do you guys feel about Fuji Bikes? I never see them on your channel.

@___Bebo___ Месяц назад

2 racks isn't a lot of money for a rich guy hobby.

@abolt8046 Месяц назад

When is Shimano going to include native support for dropper posts? Not addressing this deficiency in GRX Di2 twelve speed Is another missed opportunity.

@darrenhitchcox6345 Месяц назад

Shimano have lost the plot. I have 11 speed GRX Di2 on my Creo 1 and it is excellent. 12 speed only going to 36T where SRAM AXS goes to 50T. The MTB Di2 will only work with the Shimano EP Motor. I will stick with SRAM AXS on my Creo 2

@ParticularSky Месяц назад

One step further away from keeping it affordable sport

@fbmw98 Месяц назад

i might aswell just buy a sport bike

@HristoMitev123 Месяц назад

GRX RX400 and Microshift are both insanely good value if you can't afford this.

@nuggunu Месяц назад

+2000 is getting insane, at least there is still a mechanical option

@gcn Месяц назад

This is a top of the range group set, there are some great other options in the GRX family 🙌 Cycling doesn't need to cost the earth - It's all about getting out and enjoying the ride!

@ParticularSky Месяц назад

@@HristoMitev123 I could afford it, but that would be me saying I'm okay with it. Nope no

@student_of_God Месяц назад

Shimano should use the word cableless instead of the word wireless

@JonCannings Месяц назад

It begs the question, when is a wire a wire and a cable a cable?!

@mobert8266 Месяц назад

very nice looking. but still not wireless. at least for power supply and i think thats sucks.

@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 Месяц назад

How on earth do you get the power from the battery to the derailleur motors without a wire?

@mobert8266 Месяц назад

@@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 direct connection like sram does. there could a cable internally in the shifter. who knows. but it is not like shimano does this thing...

@squngy0 Месяц назад

@@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 2 batteries (4 if you count shifters)

@ryoukokonpaku1575 Месяц назад

@@mobert8266 There are pros and cons with Sram's style though. One thing I've always liked about di2 is the battery life, it lasts me around 2-3 months with around 15 hours of riding per week. Since it can use a larger battery, it allows it to use bigger cells which means more voltage draw for the motors, this is often the reason why people say di2 shifts slightly faster and smoother than SRAM. It's marginal for non-racers but it is something to note.

@mobert8266 Месяц назад

@@ryoukokonpaku1575 i totally understand this issue and that is also something why i like mechanical shifting, aside from maintenance i dont have to charge batteries, also i cant forget to charge. but then i think with the small removable battery of a sram it is probably just like cleaning your waterbottles, just another regular step you do between your rides. but i will never know anyway. as it is to expensive for me.

@McBain2024 Месяц назад

The Humane thing to do would be close the doors and give whatever money is left back to investors

@Sir-Kay Месяц назад

Something about wearing bibs in the woods that just doesn't seat well with me. I'm still yet to find what this gravel trend can do that I can't n my 29"er.

@hellebarde1450 Месяц назад

Maybe Shimano soon will offer some gravel grx-bibs in limited edition... ;P

@humbertoleandro896 Месяц назад

Why not launch the 1x version too like they did with the mechanical version? Sometimes I don't understand Shimano. I do love their products but don't follow their rationale for launching products.

@LeenksBarrow Месяц назад

Wireless but with wired😂😂😂

@justinlangley3432 Месяц назад

Hard to connect a battery wirelessly

@pe3117 Месяц назад

@@justinlangley3432that’s why people prefer SRAM

@Monsterhumster Месяц назад

@@pe3117actually, I dont.

@mireia3208 Месяц назад

Most of us do ;)

@Monsterhumster Месяц назад

@@mireia3208 depends on the country too. In ours, Shimano is always more favourable (our shop is selling ~600 medium-high end bikes in a year)

@stevegraham3041 Месяц назад

Miles behind sram axs

@phillippitts6294 Месяц назад

Reinventing the wheel

@squngy0 Месяц назад

In what way? It isn't truly wireless, but other than that, it seems pretty similar?

@stevegraham3041 Месяц назад

@@squngy0 nothing like the same shimano is 10yrs behind the times

@squngy0 Месяц назад

@@stevegraham3041 I don't understand how. From my point of view, SRAM only now barely caught up to Shimano with their new shifters. Do you own SRAM and you just want to make vague fanboy statements, or can you point out anything specific?

@LONEWOLF-fc5xs Месяц назад

Maby i just need somthing new, wireless i not impressing no more....maby a 10 speed internal gear hub for gravel with beld drive... wee have seen all the fine eletronic on the bikes for now...

@jimmyz5831 Месяц назад

Great looking bike. I was gonna get one but I decided to get a new car and spend the extra money on something else.

@gcn Месяц назад

What would have made your happier though 😉

@flattrack33 Месяц назад

I love how SRAM is fully wireless. That wire leading to the RD for Shimano is an eyesore imo

@JonCannings Месяц назад

It's a very small cable!

@cd66061 Месяц назад

Eyesore 😂 Get a grip pal

@BenSietze Месяц назад

Hate the bulky look of the batteries on the SRAM.. to me this is the perfect mix.

@rolfschumacher1658 Месяц назад

😂😂

@flattrack33 Месяц назад

@@BenSietze I totally understand your view! I dont like the look of cables and I also much prefer SRAM's crankset look vs Shimano (though that thick ultegra crankset does look nice)

@PeLuK2303 Месяц назад

Grx Di2 but no XTR Di2 💀

@ColinKlupiec Месяц назад

Wireless?

@naskofilms4077 Месяц назад

Just go with sram, their wireless is really no wires group set and comes in 1x for years already.

@ianross5019 Месяц назад

It’s completely wireless! Except for the wires.

@gcn Месяц назад

Would you prefer external batteries on the derailleurs?

@teva4669 Месяц назад

@@gcn yes

@siy01 Месяц назад

Massive fail on Shimano's behalf. That rear derailleur could easily take an 11-40, but because shimano has moved 12spd mountain bike components to micro spline 10 tooth this is not an option. Upfront no options for 160 / 165 cranks which are a better fit for anyone under 6ft tall, which is the majority of the worlds population. The front derailleur is a pig compared to the sleek new Ultegra/Dura Ace.

@frazergoodwin4945 Месяц назад

Bollocks. Now my bike doesn't have the best Gravel group set with its GRX Di2 2X eleven Group set...

@JonCannings Месяц назад

You know what that means. Off to the shop you go!

@frazergoodwin4945 Месяц назад

@@JonCannings sorry for the delayed reply - just surfing my favourite bikey bits e-shops... ;-)

@djslaz8255 Месяц назад

That's it? Plus it's nearly 2k? How, in any way, is this an improvement over the standard grx 600? It absolutely beggars belief that this will in any way make a cyclist faster or better.

@gcn Месяц назад

It might not make you a better rider but for those racing. The marginal gain of easy shifting will be a big plus 🙌

@ondrejjanoska660 Месяц назад

Two and half grand ey? 😂

@kasperpaisa4245 Месяц назад

2500 euro’s. Then there are seriously people who would do this

@phillippitts6294 Месяц назад

Shimano is silly . Gravel wireless? What a waste of money ! 2500$ 😂

@miabrandt1926 Месяц назад

2499 ... NOPE

@Epiqe Месяц назад

More expensive than my grx600 2x10 mechanical on carbon frame for 2199€ lmao, so overpriced

@tomozanne Месяц назад

No 1x on a gravel groupset? Seriously? Everyone else is going bigger rear cassettes, Shimano, no no no, smaller is better!

@dictionarsis 11 часов назад

Wireless paten shifting controlled by SRAM. So Shimano can't make truly wireless for their groupset.

@shanold7681 Месяц назад

I feel like wireless shifting is a GIANT ripoff.

@JonCannings Месяц назад

And if it was wired you would be happy? Buy the wires and don't install them!

@pieterbauwens5607 Месяц назад

2500 euro 😂😂😂😂 for “dirt ultegra”, that should not even be the price for a complete bike with that heavy shit on it.

@Alfadrottning86 Месяц назад

to be perfectly honest .. a wireless groupset feels utterly ridiculous and very much gratuitous. The only good reason i see is from the point of view of someone assembling a bike, not even a bike mechanic mind. It introduces a lot more points of failure that a regular person cannot fix themselves but only a specialized shop can. It feels much like how cars have become more and more digital and less mechanical .. and todays mechanics are only half mechanics and half electricians or even coders. But maybe (probably) i am missing something .. where does a wireless electronic shifting aparatus really beat a full mechanical set up? .. especially when looking at propriety parts and things like linking profiles to a smartphone (which is rather a negative from my pov)

@sziya7 Месяц назад

A wire can break.

@gcn Месяц назад

Wireless is certainly not needed for everyone but it can be a great extra to take your bike to the next level. For those racing, the smooth shifts offer greater reliability and efficiency. As for being able to fix your bike - Di2 is a pretty low maintenance option. No cable stretch or weird routing issues. Perfect for those muddy gravel rides that might slow your bike down. Do you think you would ever jump to electronic gears? ⚡

@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 Месяц назад

Wireless is a solution looking for a problem!

@MichalBrat Месяц назад

Nah, its great. No problem whatsoever in years of using wireless and I love the speed and smoothness of changing gears on push of a button. Dont have to think about chain-crossing in the semiauto and auto mode. I have found no real drawback and will never look back to the mechanical shifting.

@Alfadrottning86 Месяц назад

@@gcn Ok, those are actually good reasons .. on a very high level of cycling. Is cable stretch really such a problem though? To be honest .. of course, i - like most other people - would jump at the chance to ride a high end bike with the latest gadgets - but ... i do not think it does anything to my "level" of riding a bike. My own bike is an old Dutch bike weighing something like 12kg or so. (i dont know, i find it very hard to lift it) For professionals with a team of mechanics and a sponsor .. i do see a real benefit. For a regular commuter that values DIY fixing (bike shops have a long queue here) ... and relies on the bike to get to work, i think the "simpler is better" mantra might persist - despite your good reasons.