You do not shoot a car. A gun is not a water cooled, dual filtered, internal combustion engine, and it doesn't matter that your cousin's uncle says it's great. Stop spreading misinformation within a community you should be seeking to help!
Your right on all counts ! Long time ago when these synthetics came out, I would at the dealer pick up all the so-called empty bottles of Mobil 1 I went home and drained all the bottles to make almost a full quart ! So it was all free! If it works on car engines it will work on all guns !Your great to bring this up 🇺🇸
You are smart for using Mobil 1 synthetic oil and the Lucas grease. The big gun companies don't want you to know the information that you just told everyone. God Bless bro.
@@leglamps I think it's that you get it cheaper this way. Say another company buys that from the maker 'debranded' and they repackage it in smaller 'gun friendly sizes' and calls it something else.. They stand to lose money if you cut past them and get the original. Sometimes the chemistry is the same. It's just the branding.. Next time you're in the isle with all the pain meds at the store. Look at all the excedrin bottles.. One for back pain, one for migraines.. one regular.. If you look at the ingredients.. they are all the same. Exactly the same.. Just want to give you a label that speaks to what you want it to be. Take mobile 1 and put in in a another bottle, call it grandpa Legions gun magic and sell it for 3 times as much.
@@leglamps you are right! Other than Remington but I think they make shavers too.. but obviously the guy meant the "big gun cleaning and lubricant companies".
Do NOT follow this. You do not shoot a car. A gun is not a water cooled, dual filtered, internal combustion engine, and it doesn't matter that your cousin's uncle says it's great. Stop spreading misinformation within a community you should be seeking to help!
Great video! Thank you! I've been felling like some kind of idiot for years because I can never seem to remember to buy commercial gun lube. I've been using a high heat axel grease and syntech 10/40 engine oil for years with no problems to ANY of my weapons. I like to clean them all, grease them up and put them in the safe. When I take them out; there is never any bleeding what-so-ever!!! Thanks again for validating my silliness!!! =D
The guy that did my gun licensing class recommended motoroil, also. He swore by it and encouraged it. He was a 30 plus year retired police officer so I took the suggestion to heart. Good to hear you follow up his advice. Good video, good info.
@@murkyturkey5238 Just because you do something for 30 years does mean its the right way. I meet alot of older people who spout bull shit when it comes to cars. Age does not mean there always right.....
👍totally agree. I’ve been using Lucas Red n Tacky for break action shotguns, semiautomatic shotguns and bolt lugs on my rifles for about ten years. We have gun shops selling tiny jars of “hinge pin jelly” for the equivalent of $10 !! My tube of Lucas grease cost £8 and I’ve filled many old camera film containers and given them to fellow shooters and still have half a tube left. There’s a lot of marketing BS, good on you for highlighting excellent alternatives. All the best from Scotland 🏴. GD
I think you are spot on with your analysis. Logically, a modern engine is a precision mechanical device. So is a pistol. The only circumstance where I would not use a petroleum product on a pistol would be on a black powder firearm simply because black powder and petroleum interact badly with each other. I really liked your presentation and I, for one, will not be purchasing anymore "speciality" firearm lubricants and cleaners. Thanks.
I just recently switched back to Ballistol from using high temp wheel bearing grease and motor oil. I ran it for years, stuff works great on guns, cannot go wrong with automotive products, but I just love the smell of Ballistol in the morning and love how easy it is to keep clean. It just runs cleaner and is more simple, less toxic, and sticks in the metal like glue. Plus I never stopped using Ballistol on my household things.
I tried Mobile 1 high heat grease and it jacked up the functioning of my AK. Switching back to MIL-SPEC Break-Free CLP. Best CLP? Hoppe’s 9 vs Break Free CLP, Slip 2000, Ballistol, Frog Lube, Extreme Force, Clenzoil. Project Farm ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fibRewlndLg.html
@@YT-User1013 I enjoy the project farm channel and I did watch that video on lubes the other day. Shocking to see how much wear occurred with some of the most popular products.
I agree with you on this subject. I was in the ARMY as well and they used to give us the CLP all the time. In my personal Colt AR15 I was having sticky bolt issues till I used the full synthetic motor oil and the red grease on my bolt and receiver lugs. Works fine and it lasts a long time and is so much cheaper in the long run.
Guns are machines. Think about that for a minute. All gun products are overpriced versions of existing lube and cleaning products. And if you just add "tactical" to the description, you'll get even more ripped off. I've been into guns for 60 yrs and have never used brand name cleaning or lubrication for my guns. Anything that will clean and lube machinery will clean and lube a gun. Lead and copper removal is another issue, but there is no reason to pay for the gun hype. I just make sure it is compatible with the polymer stuff out there.
something I've slowly learned over the years since taking up shooting as a hobby, the vast majority of gun accessories are unnecessary and some are outright dangerous. Its just a free market trying to take advantage of consumer ignorance to make a buck. I dont mind that. You as the customer should try to inform yourself and make smarter purchases.
I’m in a dry desert environment I switch to Castile Soap to remove Dust dirt and grease flawlessly from the gun , STP High Temp Bearing Grease or 10w-30 Mobil 1 or Valvoline oil
This is the ultimate tip when it comes to lubes, lol, cheaper than dirt itself and yet more functional and effective than most of the specialty lubes, already tested it on most of my firearms, mobil is awesome for AR 10 and the grease is awesome for all my pistols (except 1911s which prefer mobile synthetic 10w-30 ) This guy sure knows whats he talking about. Liked and subscribed with pleasure
I’ve been using Mobile-1 10 W/40 And lithium grease for years now. They definitely outperform Slick 2000 And Hoppies gun grease, and any of the other “specialized” lubricants and graces. You are SO correct. People get really deluded by advertising.
I'm with you 100%. Exact same experience with the Mobile One. When I saw Toyota putting Mobile One into the $475,000 V10 Lexus LFA, the thing is revving at insane RPM's.... Just think it through, yes, an AR is a controlled explosion, but so is an internal (combustion) engine, and it definitely takes more abuse over a couple hundred THOUSAND miles.
I've seen a couple videos on here with the same exact logic in using Mobil 1. I've also seen where they mix the Mobil 1 with synthetic greese and mix it to a honey like consistency. I'm going to start using this especially after looking at the cost of gun butter. Excellent video
I switched to Mobil 1 10 years ago and haven't looked back. No issues. All my guns run w/o issue but I also buy quality equipment. Usually. I've even experimented using it on the stock of two Rossi lever actions, my exceptions to "quality equipment" statement. Just to see if what 'oil' is needed to keep a wood stock from drying out and I liked the deep maple color. So far so good. In my initial hypothesis on the wood stock and 'motor' oil I referenced the use of creosote on railroad ties. They last forever under extreme heavy duty use and weather exposure. KISS.
Yes, still using Mobile 1 synthetics and no issues w/ polymer. I use it on my CCW Hellcat. I have thousands of rounds through the Hellcat w/ zero function issues. @@92Gomes
Yes!!! GREASE!!! I use Amsoil synthetic red grease on all my pistols and bolt action deer rifle... operation soooo smooth, and like you said it STAYS PUT. I used to race snocross, the pivot points in the suspension take a horrific beating, you'd have to see the top pros up close to realize the beating they actually take. And all those suspension points use GREASE. I just use cheap remoil on the outside of my guns too, that's all. Great vid 👍🏻👍🏻
I save the skin from KFC chicken to rub on gun parts. Only problem is that I get hungry every time I go to the range. There is a scent of fried chicken in the air once I've run about a hundred rounds through my rifle.
I use brake clean to clean my firearms. I use Mobil 1 or Costco Kirkland or Amazon oil to lube them, and engine oil don’t burn off while my AR500 steel plate target puncher gets hot. Awesome firearm information video.
I recently switched to Mobil 1 for my ARs. Had a half quart left over from my last oil change I did on my truck. It’s 0w20 so it works great. Nice video.
Very solid video bro! I definitely heard of motor oil on rifles. I been using Hoppes & CLP. This was a good observation by your part on different oils. 👍🏾
So long as you don't use these on food prep tools, automotive lubricants work . I used a marine grade grease on my bicycle cables for years. My sister couldn't grasp that white lithium spray grease was good for her expensive house exterior door hinges. She didn't see door hinges on the list of applications on the lable. Weirdos are among us. Beware!
Interesting line of thought, when I was serving we used breakfree on our SLR's and whatever oil was supplied by the armory. I'm always open to any new information that has some merit to it. I will certainly be giving it a try on a couple of my old firearms, thanks for the information.
cheap brake cleaner cleans the best. cheap eng oil really works well. then consider vacuum bag sealing your guns. like with a food vac. no air. no rust.
Motor oil works great. But I use the graphite or Teflon based lubes. Oil attracts dirt. So if your in a desert or dusty field your weapon is gonna get dirty quick
He's right. I have been using olive oil for a while now and it works like magic on your knives and guns. Same holds true for canola oil. I've heard great things about Mobile 1 full synthetic as well. All are readily available and cheap. I may have to try the Lucas red grease... thanks for the video.
totally agree, run Royal Purple synthetic. motor oils have detergents, dispersants, and other chemicals to inhibit breakdown of the oil. i run it in my AR and it just wipes clean after shooting.
I do many of the same things. I would add mineral spirits clean excellent and is often the main ingredient in most off the shelf gun cleaners. Buy a gallon and be good for a lifetime. Most gun oils are just mineral oil pretty much the exact same as baby oil. Buy one large bottle for around four dollars and have a supply for decades .As a good outer rust prevention Wd-40 works great for far less money. Also never overlook 3n1 oil. Marketing genius has convinced everyone that they need all this crap just to separate you from your cash. Great video
Glad to see someone else using Lucas Red n Tacky in their firearms too - It works great in all of mine and my old man (a diesel mechanic) turned me onto the stuff after telling him about the stuff shipped in Glocks. I bought the tube you have and after 2 years (of cleaning and lubing all of my handguns and rifles) I have used less than 5% of it
I know, I meant from a greasing vs oil lubing standpoint - I live near the smyrna plant and spoke to someone at Glock about it. Still using Lucas red n tacky and it works like a champ.
I've heard the problem with motor oil is that it doesn't have the rust inhibitors that gun oil does and should therefore not be used on the outside of guns. Your thoughts?
Exccellent info and video sir. You are spot on, and only elitist gun "know-it-alls" will object to Mobile One. Those of us that are practical and know how a gun works will use Mobil One.
I've been using full synthetic motor oil for several years and it is great! Unlike petroleum motor oil it is actually slick. I did use petroleum motor oil for a while, it falls short in two areas: It''s heat rang is not high enough for guns that are being ran hard and when it gets hot it smells like a car burning oil. Full synthetic has never gotten hot enough to have a smell at all no matte how hard I run them. I ran a 75 round drum through an AK-47 as fast as I could pull the trigger lubed only with synthetic motor oil. No problems, no smell. I have recently started using white lithium grease on some parts like slide rails (recommended by Jim Fuller). Again, no problems.
since watching this video a couple of years ago, I have been using a 50/50 mixture of marvel and synthetic motor oil on all "50 plus" firearms in my collection. I buy a quart of each and mix them together. my friends have tried it and love it. very slick, doesn't burn off, stays put and smells good. lasts a loooong time and cheap.
Have you ever tried ATF for your guns? Even though it smells God awful, I have had good luck using transmission fluid. I also use wheel bearing grease for my guns. Even my ar bolt and charging handle I use the grease. Havent had a problem yet, knock on wood. My guns run like a top
Great cost-cutting advice. I've been mixing a quart of Full Synthetic Motor Oil, 0W and a tube of red grease to use as protectant and lubricant for all my firearms.
Walmart's own brand of synthetic motor oil and synthetic light grease are all the lubes one needs, and then one just needs an inexpensive bore cleaner like Hoppe's, and an inexpensive general purpose cleaner/degreaser that is non-toxic and bio-degradeable. These four products will cover every single gun you own!
Been using it for a while. Friends freak out when I recommend motor oil. I do use ballistol on the exterior of my rifle. It tends to stick longer. I use synthetic grease on hight fiction zones with a q-tip or toothpick, such as rails. But i generally give the bolt a wipe down with motor oil. But ballistol does break down carbon as a cleaner. So grease ballistol and motor oil is what I use.
DSA you are completely correct on the lubes you use. The only other lube I use besides the Lucas Grease is Lucas Motor Assy. Oil and Lucas Gun Oil [Red] they stay on the BCG after hundreds of rounds fired. Great and Informative Video. Thanks... Even use small amounts of Lithium Grease on Handguns, not gobs just light coatings, Thanks again for a great and TRUE Video!
Thanks for the info I use rem oil regularly it works fantastic inhibiting rust but as far as lubrication it dries up pretty fast but it has Teflon in it so the surface stays smooth. I will try car oil because it does make sense and it does have additives to protect the metal. I will give an update after I clean and oil my tools.
I use synthetic also, and for gun cleaner good ol brake or carb cleaner. Same thing. It gets the carbon out it cleans, dry it then oil it.. can't go wrong and cheap. I'm not paying for those fancy products when the cheaper ones do the same and you have it longer.. save a buck why not!
I'm so confused. Picked up my first handgun from my local FFL, an old timer who has been gunsmithing for many years and when I asked him about using synthetic motor oil as lubricant he just looked at me and dismissively said "Don't do that." I felt kind of stupid for asking. (Keep in mind he does not sell gun oil, so it's not like he was just saying that to sell me something.)
E Some people learn things quickly...other people it takes a lifetime. Just because he’s an “old timer” doesn’t guarantee that his opinion is good, just like being young doesn’t guarantee a foolish opinion.
Do NOT follow this. You do not shoot a car. A gun is not a water cooled, dual filtered, internal combustion engine, and it doesn't matter that your cousin's uncle says it's great. Make the small investment on a gun grease and oil and you'll be good for decades.
@@DinoNucci are gun oils better for high temperature or what? An oil filter isn't necessary on a light coat that will be cleaned away manually, so I don't see the problem with synthetic oils
Do you know what the army manual says for M1 rifle? Use grease. Axle grease will do. If you're in really cold weather you'll need a light grease or it'll freeze. You want grease because it'll stick to the area. Oil will run away. That's what it does, it flows. A little dab will do ya. Anything that I see a wear pattern on I grease. Tacky red, synthetic black stuff, or 70 year old axle grease. It all works. I have some 70+ year old cup grease. You'll need to clean it out and re-grease it because it will dry out over time and get hard. You don't want it to let you down when you need it. The 70 year old stuff seems to stay soft.
Question, can you use Red N Tacky grease on the slide rails/moving parts on Glocks or Bolt Carrier on AR's? I generally clean my guns every few months and ALWAYS notice they are pretty much bone dry even with 10w40 etc. It just runs off the parts. Only bad thing I can imagine with Red n Tacky is it attracting dust/carbon when shot, not sure if that's a major issue though.
Yea I used oil before on my AR, it works great. However the smell it makes stinks more than the gunpowder and create smokes when the gun heats up. Thats why I use frog lube now for the minty fresh smell, especially on the glock.
honestly, ive used about everything to clean a firearm. mostly wd 40 and 3 in 1 oil. had the rem, and a couple pricey kinds as well. but this is a good tip youre giving here, i had heard it but never tried it. does it have to be 10-w40?
I’ve been using Mobil 1 as fun lube for years and even get it for free my friend is a mechanic and I get ‘empty’ bottles and drain them upside down and put it in a bottle with an extending tube with a red cap.
Good vid. Spot on. I use Mobile 1 synthetic 5W-30 for the bolt carrier rails of my AR (and other contact points of the bolt), due to the high temp incoming gasses of the upper receiver. Ballistol for all other moving parts and for non-AR firearms.
I dont know why you are surprised, engines work at drastically more extreme loads and force then guns, if an oil works in an engine for an entire year or longer a gun is a piece of cake
@@darrengarcia4937 but we don’t have those extra variables in combustion ignition weapons. So the same could be said for any lubricant used in firearms.
This video reminds me of the Fire Clean gun oil controversy . Fire Clean came on the market and many rapidly developed a sizable following . It wasn't cheap , it sold for about $7 per fl.oz. Then it was discovered to be 99% canola oil . Basically just Wesson oil with scent agents added to give it a gun oil smell . This caused a lot of consumer outrage about their marketing veggie oil for these prices after all you could buy a 2 quart bottle Wesson oil for less than $4 . But for all the complaints of price gouging nobody ever claimed that the product didn't work . It still worked as well as it did when everyone believed it to be the greatest thing since sliced bread . People were pissed that they got taken in by marketing hype . 99% of the time oil is oil and it doesn't matter what oil you use . It should be pointed out however that some oil traps dirt more than others . This is why regular cleaning is important .
I use Lucas Red applied with a hobby brush to the slide grooves and wings and a full synthetic machine oil on the trigger moving parts. Petroleum products contain solvents to make the oil thin. The solvent continues to evaporate toward it's journey into asphalt.
I remember reading in a Suzuki servive manual for a 150hp+ liter bike that the only recomended lube for the chain was motor oil. That speaks volumes. Thanks for the great video. Continue to help people see throught the marketing and to consider materials. Some people cant see the woods because of to many trees. The effects of marketing.
High Mileage oil though is unnecessary since it includes an additive pack for engine seals to help prevent them from shrinking and becoming brittle that would not have any use on a firearm.
I worked in a machine parts factory, and I grabbed a can of this old "metal protec" stuff, most of the label is worn off and I can't find it anywhere. But its the best gun lube I have ever used. I used it to machine a new lower and now its always gone so I'm looking for something else now.
What type of cleaner for your pistols? I’m new to guns. I personally use Mobil 1 or Amsoil in the cars. I know Amsoil has dedicated fire arm cleaner and lubricants
i use the same except for grease i use permatex copper anti-seize especially on the glocks just because that is what comes from glock already on the slide rails
Best advise ever. You're not going to find a harsher, more demanding environment for a lubricant than a wheel bearing or the combustion chamber of an engine. No AR will ever require more lubrication than motor oil/high temp bearing grease can provide.
Oil IN the combustion chamber of an engine means the rings or valve guide seals are shot OR it’s a two stroke or diesel. Oil lubricates outside the combustion chamber. That pretty blue smoke and fouled plugs is the result of oil IN the combustion chamber…
Synthetic oil is made to lube at high temps like you get from rapid firing a semi auto. Also I use Brake Clean non-chlornated engine and brake cleaner. Same thing as gun scrubber but cheaper.
Yup! Supertech brake cleaner to spray my pistols and ar's down. supertech 10w30 full syn. to lube them up. Guns require very little lube anyways. Look up glock's man. on lubing. like 3 drops lol
The light bulb just went on over my head It all makes sense we switched over to full synthetic in both my car and my truck and after watching your video I'll get a quart for my firearms it ALL just make's sense thank you for opening this ol' mans eyes
Great video brotha. I use high temperature wheel bearing grease, And I always have a quart or two of Mobil 1 full synthetic to use as well, and my guns run great. If these lubrications are good enough to withstand the heat from vehicles, and still protect the moving components, then they will do the same for guns easily. I’m a firearms instructor, so my guns get a lot of use, and with just these two with me, I don’t have issues.
Then make yourself up some Ed's Red Bore Solvent, equal parts of Dexron II/III/Mercon ATF, Odorless Mineral Spirits and Heater Kerosene (not out of ground tank!). Add an equal part of Acetone if you need to clean plastic residue out of shotguns, etc. Costs about 1/10th of the least expensive commercial bore cleaner. Also try Hi Temp Wheel Bearing grease for AR/AKs, semi-auto handguns: if it slides, grease it; if it rolls, oil it. You do NOT need the High Mileage formula unless your gun has seals and gaskets and stuff. Rem Oil is great for Bolt Actions, revolvers and trigger/spring assemblies etc. You can't beat motor oil for lube on most semi-auto firearms. FWIW. (Soak you BCG overnight in the Ed's Red and I bet after you clean it, you'll switch to Ed's Red as your primary solvent/cleaner!)
You will spend LOTS more on hospital bills when using toxic concoctions such as the ones you describe. ACETONE???? You HAVE to be kidding; I hope you don't have any small children.
@ Thomas Chaperone I've never used solely ATF so can't comment. I can say, however, that I've never had a problem with any of my semi auto pistols, rifles including AR15s (nor M16s when in military) using it in the formula provided. fwiw
@ Wyatt This "concoction" was formulated by a chemist and adopted by the U.S. Army and meets all their specifications for CLP*. It is also sold commercially by Brownells. Learn to do research B4 spouting off nonsense. Thank you. * It's listed as: Frankford Arsenal Nitro Solvent #18 in Hatcher’s Notebook (Julian Hatcher was the Chief of the Small Arms Division in the Ordnance Department and the Assistant Commandant of the Ordnance School for the US ARMY).
You should try the full synthetic Lucas oil additive if you think the Mobil One is slick. Also the Lucas oil is designed to stick to metal after it heats up.
I love the motor oil idea. I've been using alternative lube on my AK for years (Royal Purple & Lucas White Grease). Works great and the price per application is difficult to ascertain because it's so absurdly low. I've spent (probably) thousands of dollars over the years on a couple of ounces of gun specific magic oil only to come to the conclusion that it is no better than many other bulk lubes at 1/10 the price. If things go sideways you're going to benefit from simplification. Buy uncomplicated weapons that have easily available spare parts, easily obtainable ammo and maintain them with common lubes and cleaners. If it gets bad and you can't get your wine and cheese gun potions you're going to be using 30W and ATF anyway. And if everything stays copacetic you'll be able to afford a lot more ammo. :)
All good points. I used to run Mobil 1 in a 2000 Corvette. It was oem for the c5 cars. Only had to do oil changes every 7500 miles I think it was. Nowadays I run it in my Tundra and since I change my own I always have it nearby:)
Great video. I use Mobil 0W-20 full synthetic & Lucas Oil Marine Grease ( Probably because I had a tube already ). Still have some REM oil spray and some CLP patches.
I used to work for a gunsmith who had his own "secret" recipe: automatic transmission fluid, mixed with WD40. Sometimes he would add a little Marvel's Mystery Oil to the mix.
In the Canadian arctic, I've found that 0-W-20 Synthetic (Shell sell it; probably other brands also) is far better than "gun oil" of any kind. It still pours at -50, where 10-W-30 or 15-W-40 don't. For grease, I learned early on from old-timers that Snowmobile grease works really well. It doesn't stiffen up, and a thin smear goes a long way. Moly grease is also good. Both of these greases, and the 0-20 oil are a couple of dollars more than "regular" stuff, but well worth it since they don't seize up in the cold.
I use a machinery oil called “Way Oil”. It lubricants forever and a moisture repellant (water based coolants). Been using way oil on the slides of lathes & mills in machine shops for 50 years and it works for guns just as well. It stands up to the heat of hot metal chips too. You just can’t buy it in small amounts. A 5 gallon bucket is common place. If you know someone in a machine shop then you can acquire a quart or so. I also use the way oil on my reloading equipment. The ram of the shell sizer is 30 YO and still tight. Just wipe it down often and reapply with an oil gun often.
