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Haas VF22 - Aerodynamics Analysis and Initial Thoughts 

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@BAoxymoron
@BAoxymoron 2 года назад
I've been waiting on you to feel comfortable doing this type of analysis ever since you first announced leaving Mercedes. There really aren't many people on RU-vidrs with the technical knowledge to be able to provide this type of in detail analysis. Awesome video with some great insights into the engineer's thought process, and I can't wait to hear your thoughts as the other teams start announcing their cars!
@twlentwo
@twlentwo 2 года назад
There is a channel B sport, run by an ex Racing Point engineer. Check it out, he makes similar content, I enjoy both channels
@RalstigRacing
@RalstigRacing 2 года назад
@@twlentwo thanks! I didn’t know that channel existed!
@hazikaiyan5903
@hazikaiyan5903 2 года назад
Ikr!
@formulafish1536
@formulafish1536 2 года назад
Reminds me of when Aarava used to do his basic analysis when he was an aeronautical engineering student. But far more detailed as Kyle obviously has a much more intimate knowledge of F1 concepts
@Antenox
@Antenox 2 года назад
The year Kyle left Mercedes was the first year they didn't win the WDC. Coincidence? I think not
@somguy728
@somguy728 2 года назад
One of hundreds of serfs at Merc. His reasoning for leaving made too much sense to me. There's a reason why the Brits invented the stiff upper lip, living there could make anyone cry.
@900108Chale
@900108Chale 2 года назад
YUP! A single man guided Merc to success... _Hail Kyle!_
@KYLEENGINEERS
@KYLEENGINEERS 2 года назад
The rules are tight this year, but I'm still expecting to see some notable differences in how teams approach them. Any interesting solutions you're looking to see?
@marfrandema1884
@marfrandema1884 2 года назад
I don't think this is extremely close to the final car. Only thing i'll love to see are aero rims (like the WEC toyota) instead of those ugly wheel covers.
@_RobertS
@_RobertS 2 года назад
Rumor has it Haas might run pullrod at the front, and looking closely at these pics/renders the pushrods don't seem to blend into the bodywork like the wishbones do. Will be interesting to see what they have on the test. Apart from tiny details and the shape of sidepods, I suspect all cars will be very similar this year...
@theracingban
@theracingban 2 года назад
@@_RobertS yeah they are running a pullrod setup like ferrari but they werent gonna reveal it before ferrari did we probably gonna see it in testing
@tturi2
@tturi2 2 года назад
would it be possible or is there any benefit to attaching the ground effects to the actual wheel hubs?
@artnull13
@artnull13 2 года назад
Hidden fans to increase underfloor flow or use of asymmetric surface dielectric barrier discharge to do that.
@cormacmolyneaux6021
@cormacmolyneaux6021 2 года назад
It’s so great seeing one of these videos from someone who I know is actually an expert.
@VIctorAbicalil
@VIctorAbicalil 2 года назад
Yeah, especially considering that he was probably studying these new rules while at Merc in the beggining of 2020.
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm 2 года назад
It’s so refreshing compared to channels like wtf1 who said they could barely tell a difference between the 2021 car and the new 2022 car 🙄
@EmyrDerfel
@EmyrDerfel 2 года назад
@@Tommmmmmmmmmmm they were talking about livery differences, because Haas announced this event as a livery reveal.
@Ben-go1iq
@Ben-go1iq 2 года назад
@@EmyrDerfel probably because that’s roughly the extent of their understanding of F1 engineering
@kwarrtzorau7203
@kwarrtzorau7203 2 года назад
This is exactly the kind of detailed technical analysis I wanted to see of these release images. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and I hope you'll do this for more teams as they unveil their cars!
@joshuafleckenstein351
@joshuafleckenstein351 2 года назад
Been waiting for an aero analysis on their model. Some interesting choices that I’ve been wanting to hear about.
@adamigo1000
@adamigo1000 2 года назад
Magnificent analysis! I hope you'll manage to analyse other F1 cars too ;)
@2ELI0
@2ELI0 2 года назад
He said he was going to do that ^^
@proesterchen
@proesterchen 2 года назад
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on these cars! I especially like the speculation on why a team might have chosen one of the possible solutions over the others allowed by the new rules. 👍
@intermediatef1driver346
@intermediatef1driver346 2 года назад
Hey Kyle, love the vids, you should totally do a video for each car and then at the end of the season a comparison of the front running cars to the show cars to see the rapid development of the cars
@MuffinKingStudios
@MuffinKingStudios 2 года назад
Definitely would watch more rundowns as the car reveals are released! Very interesting to hear about the unseen work that the air does on the car. Great job Kyle.
@bertjilk3456
@bertjilk3456 2 года назад
Wow. Finally an F1 commentator who understands aero. Outstanding!
@roberdeisidro7767
@roberdeisidro7767 2 года назад
As an aerospace eng grad now in another industry I can't state how enjoyable this video is. Good throwback to the days when I could pinpoint these things myself. I have definitely lost some of the sauce now. Keep em coming!
@armandolios4561
@armandolios4561 2 года назад
Nice work!!! In hands of someone who knows, that pictures a pure gold.
@Hamlet-wp2ri
@Hamlet-wp2ri 2 года назад
A proper analysis from a true expert, I just stumbled upon this channel and I’ve gotta say it was an instant subscription after watching this exceptional video. 👏
@sgjuniordk
@sgjuniordk 2 года назад
This is by far the most comprehensive video I've come across analysing the new Haas. I particularly enjoy listening to the concepts around the shapes and airflow management. I've studying mech eng and always wanted to speak more to aero engineers from F1 to understand how the demands influence their problem solving skills. I'd really like if I could get in touch with you and have a chat. Thanks, keep up the good work, people like you make a big difference doing content like this. You've got my like and sub!
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm 2 года назад
Was just about to ask if you could please do this type of deep analysis for each teams car as they’re released but was delighted to hear that’s exactly what you’re planning. Can’t wait!
@vidginnerguidelenses239
@vidginnerguidelenses239 2 года назад
Love that the car turn out looking better than the FIA concept.
@haribo836
@haribo836 2 года назад
Came to this channel for the first time. It only took me a less than a minute and a half to subscribe. I have some limited knowledge of aero myself (it being part of my studies, but I specialized in another area of aerospace engineering) and it's clear you know your stuff. It's refreshing to see a real experts view on youtube instead of those quasi expert/reporter/youtuber views. Can't wait to see more of your views on different launches.
@riteshvr3913
@riteshvr3913 2 года назад
*after 1 month nice to see you sir*
@ZarrisKem
@ZarrisKem 2 года назад
Finally someone young with some great real modern experience who can really take an in-depth dive into the technicalities of F1!
@cypriengravier2562
@cypriengravier2562 2 года назад
Hi Kyle, awesome video as always. You haven't gone in much depth regarding the aero effects of the wheel covers as well as the winglet wraping around the front tyres, I would love to hear your take
@paulovidi5761
@paulovidi5761 2 года назад
Great! Now we need 9 more like this!!!
@aviatorix8805
@aviatorix8805 2 года назад
Excellent breakdown, I'm excited for the coming cars!
@stephendunlap8833
@stephendunlap8833 2 года назад
Love the analysis! --- Idea for future video/content >> Aerodynamics of a pickup truck (primarily the classic tailgate UP vs tailgate DOWN) and how the tailgate effects fuel efficiency and downforce/drag. It has been a topic cover by many (including mythbusters) but I would love to see your take on this with CFD etc. Definitely a highly debated subject, and might have the potential to draw in a a lot of new viewers. Keep up the great work!
@indopleaser
@indopleaser 2 года назад
been looking forward to this. glad you continued this series. your a top 5 fav ‘Tuber
@nuchbutter
@nuchbutter 2 года назад
As a professional aviator, amateur CNC machinist and motorbike racer, Haas will always be my favorite F1 race team.
@mj6463
@mj6463 2 года назад
You and B sport both do such an amazing job explaining highly complex effects simply. As a fan of f1 and a college student fascinated with aero, though not studying it, I really appreciate the work y’all put into these videos.
@bauc
@bauc 2 года назад
Great Video, keep up the great work, I love how you explain in detail everything and you convey your thought process as well.
@danielegerussi7453
@danielegerussi7453 2 года назад
Awesome video, i can't wait for the others! Is it also possible that the diffuser is so squared up in order to support the flow to the beam wing to maybe crank it a bit more?
@DYE239
@DYE239 2 года назад
Thanks Kyle! great summary for people who love the engineering aspects of F1 but don't have a degree in Aero wizardry :).
@Rangure02
@Rangure02 2 года назад
Finally someone talking about things that really mather in the race and not to the graphic design of the livery
@KuroSamaMG
@KuroSamaMG 2 года назад
The aston matin is going to be interesting! waiting for the video on it
@juliankandlhofer7553
@juliankandlhofer7553 2 года назад
Awesome! These kinds of details are the reason I love F1. Hope you do this for the other cars as well👍
@Sweaty__Sheep
@Sweaty__Sheep 2 года назад
I would seriously hope to see a significant upgrade of complexity come testing. They have had longer than anyone else on this design since they gave up before 2021 even started.
@FaithlessEmoRacing
@FaithlessEmoRacing 2 года назад
Really enjoyed that video! looking forward to the rest of the grid! Wondering also if you could do one on the Le Mans Porsche the just had some photos shown?
@nestoNESTOnesto
@nestoNESTOnesto 2 года назад
Now that is content I'm interested in :-) Amazing, thank you, please continue.
@lucaslangowski8921
@lucaslangowski8921 2 года назад
Awesome video ! Really well explained and very informative, keep it up !
@jamesh2367
@jamesh2367 2 года назад
You videos are insightful and enlightening 🤙🏻
@martinhami3
@martinhami3 2 года назад
Looking forward to this series
@Joe-gg4nq
@Joe-gg4nq 2 года назад
Great video, and that's an impressive CV 👍
@jonathanratcliffe5714
@jonathanratcliffe5714 2 года назад
Thanks, fantastic video! So interesting to get this level of insight into thoughts behind the aerodynamic design of these cars.
@MajesticDemonLord
@MajesticDemonLord 2 года назад
Very interesting! I have a question on Future F1 Aero content - would you consider doing videos on 'interesting' (either good or bad) Aero concepts in F1 and why they worked or didn't work? For example, HAAS in 2019 stalling the rear wing, or the first Ground effect car?
@vask92
@vask92 2 года назад
Nice video. Wow you actually worked for Mercedes team, that’s crazy!
@mikejackson9585
@mikejackson9585 2 года назад
I wonder if he agrees with Scarab's assessment of the fake push rod. When they highlighted the entry into the chassis, it does seem fake. Great assessment though.
@gixxermaan
@gixxermaan 2 года назад
Very interesting to have an experts view 👍
@philips6182
@philips6182 2 года назад
Nice to see a video that actually analyses the new aero design of the haas rather than just claiming it’s the same car because the livery looks the same
@messa2218
@messa2218 2 года назад
Maybe we should re-analyse this car again since the car that show up during testing looks a lot difference from this rendered version.
@crxdelsolsir
@crxdelsolsir 2 года назад
Magnificent work! I wish you can still be in F1 (if that would suit) as you clearly have talent. Also would love to have more people like yourself covered by behind the scenes. However, I am glad you are still In F1 scene giving people and fans your professional very experienced perspective.
@stieffy2008
@stieffy2008 2 года назад
Sorry, but I was so glad when you clicked the drawing of the nose away..it just wasn't possible to un-see it! But a really interesting video!
@Djent_Djenerator
@Djent_Djenerator 2 года назад
hello! im still in high school, but my dream job is to be an aerodynamicist for an F1 team. for my college major should i do a double major with aeronautical and physics? or any particular steps/tips you have?
@himax000
@himax000 2 года назад
😮 The best analysis so far!
@eleycki
@eleycki 2 года назад
Great vid. Love this stuff!
@th1nk_outside
@th1nk_outside 2 года назад
thats what i ve been waiting for! thank you. i was wondering about those standardized front wheel winglets. i am guessing they are creating a vortex that stoppes the tire wake come up so a clean airflow can stay on top towards the rear?
@hugotogner168
@hugotogner168 2 года назад
Great video. Thank you very much for the content.
@brendanrogers1990
@brendanrogers1990 2 года назад
Can't wait to see your take on the Aston Martin AMR22.
@user-kv2gi5en1y
@user-kv2gi5en1y 2 года назад
2:00 And what do you think about the push-rod suspension arm on that frame? The highest one seems to be lacking bodywork around it, can it be a fake to hide real pull-rod concept?
@palmermonsen9098
@palmermonsen9098 2 года назад
Yes yes yes! Thanks Kyle! Been waiting for this!
@larryperkinsfan
@larryperkinsfan 2 года назад
Great video, got me subscribed, good job! Can't wait to see your analysis of the other cars.
@900108Chale
@900108Chale 2 года назад
*Often times simple is better.* Truly hope for Haas' future that this comes true.
@881Gino
@881Gino 2 года назад
Mate, that was impressive analysis… I work in the mining industry and engage the mechanical, electrical, civil and structural engineers daily… but aero is a whole new level of complexity. What sort of race cars are you doing dev work on now? Keep up the great work. Keen to see your analysis of the other new F1 cars when the launch.
@samdoesthefunstuff7122
@samdoesthefunstuff7122 2 года назад
I want more aero analysis please!
@SM-ll3hf
@SM-ll3hf 2 года назад
best channel on yt
@Noexcessful
@Noexcessful 2 года назад
Great video! Was a very interesting watch
@lucasberg2667
@lucasberg2667 2 года назад
Brilliant video
@paweiwanczyk8270
@paweiwanczyk8270 2 года назад
Im very glad i found your chanel, this video is great and I hope you will analyse all cars of this year grid :)
@gustavoguti27
@gustavoguti27 2 года назад
RU-vid's algorithm finally suggested someone interesting to subscribe
@RyanAlba
@RyanAlba 2 года назад
Fantastic breakdown, mate!
@Skillzvideos
@Skillzvideos 2 года назад
Nice informative video, looking forward to seeing the other teams analysis
@cyancut21
@cyancut21 2 года назад
One thing that also surprised me on the front axle is that the track rod and upper wishbone are not cased together but individually (see those two struts very close to each other at the top of the front “arms” setup?) I can’t think of the last time any F1 car had that
@user-ow1jh8yb5j
@user-ow1jh8yb5j 2 года назад
Can’t wait for this series!
@TankToChest
@TankToChest 2 года назад
Was there ever such things as offensive Aerodynamics that were just there to mess with other people’s race vehicles. That would be interesting 🤔 Imagine making an adjustable scoop that forces the car behind you to turn opposite the corner and forces them wide 😅🤣
@MichaelOrvis
@MichaelOrvis 2 года назад
Outstanding!
@barnyb123
@barnyb123 2 года назад
Excellent vid. Thanks
@mattbass4807
@mattbass4807 2 года назад
I love this content thank you so much
@kohikappu
@kohikappu 2 года назад
He should've said "sticky-uppy bits" for the small sized aero device on neat the side pod.
@ah__xmr
@ah__xmr 2 года назад
can you make a video on how they seal the underbody. the virtual skirts as they are called?
@MDelorean
@MDelorean 2 года назад
Very informative! Thanks for making this.
@tastesgamey8572
@tastesgamey8572 2 года назад
really well done
@justindelano2761
@justindelano2761 2 года назад
Red Bull only has 3 wing elements and the top on almost curves back. Excited to see the breakdown on them
@BuddyCorp
@BuddyCorp 2 года назад
I've been looking forward to this video.
@totowolffstable4044
@totowolffstable4044 2 года назад
I hope it's possible to receive more videos like this but from different teams as well
@stupidmonkeykev
@stupidmonkeykev 2 года назад
Thanks for this, very interesting.
@Staticc146
@Staticc146 2 года назад
You worked for Merc in F1 that’s insane
@cmw5911
@cmw5911 2 года назад
Great content as always! Also, not trying to be creepy, but your biceps look really good when you gesticulate.
@davidpenner3456
@davidpenner3456 2 года назад
Main takeaways: - "Bulbous", "beluga" sidepods - "Lots of spoons up and down the grid"
@KayJblue
@KayJblue 2 года назад
Absolutely great video!
@TheSzymam
@TheSzymam 2 года назад
What a killer video! Thanks!
@chrisdavidson911
@chrisdavidson911 2 года назад
Once you see the face in the front view, you can't unsee it
@GowthamV07
@GowthamV07 2 года назад
Can you do it for AMR2022 car , it looks to be close to production version than the redbull car being the exact copy of the demo model.
@ahmadkhashoun4764
@ahmadkhashoun4764 2 года назад
Great video, can we get more of this for the rest of the cars please?
@photography_by_keir
@photography_by_keir 2 года назад
What we didn’t get was your conclusion to the aero package that Hass have put together. I understand that this is the first car but you should still have a feel for how the car is going to operate. Also what about side and rear wind effects on the car as it’s been a problem for most manufacturers in the past ?
@skrattzerat5831
@skrattzerat5831 2 года назад
Thanks! awesome analysis!
@klasberggren3905
@klasberggren3905 2 года назад
After all this videos, it Woolf be interesting if you give your opinion on which design you think is the most ingenious
@ModernDIYCraftsman
@ModernDIYCraftsman 2 года назад
would like to see how mercedes , ferrari and redbull will play with their aerodynamics. Great video. same we might hear from F1 tv analytics soon.
@samgribble5906
@samgribble5906 2 года назад
Nice vid man! Is there a minimum ride height in the new regs? Specifically around the tunnels? Obviously they cant run Lotus-esque moveable skirts to seal the floor but will we see the same thing in the early 90s where the teams aimed to get the floors as close to the tarmac as possible? Cant wait for the next vid, good work.
@riteshvr3913
@riteshvr3913 2 года назад
*Sir make a video on aston martin valkyrie amr pro*
@andreashildbrand7619
@andreashildbrand7619 2 года назад
I wish Mick a good Season with his new car. It looks good
@tall1oN
@tall1oN 2 года назад
waiting for aston martin video xD
@Fochit8611
@Fochit8611 2 года назад
Could you imagine if Haas won the constructors cup this season? They definitely won’t but god it would be crazy if they did
@GuidoHaverkort
@GuidoHaverkort 2 года назад
Very interesting!
@sirexilon
@sirexilon 2 года назад
Good job Dalara ...
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