Hacking an Art School Education. 

You are the best thank you! Love to listen to your knowledge

Thanks for making this vid! Its cool to see the other side of this discussion.

Honest thoughts? here's the real world honest thought, you can make money with art without having to spend anything you could spend $60 on a drawing tablet and sketch out a few designs for characters, you can do photo edits, retouching, you can do so called album covers for musicians, flyers, logos, you can get paid 50-100 flat rate or $75/hr you can charge anything you want and make good money and make a name for yourself you do not need to listen to assholes with degrees that make you think twice about even setting foot in the art world. i learned photoshop through youtube and lots of hours and dedication i learned it well and i had entered photography class in high school i had a teacher that would always pick on me and never let me be creative with my digital camera she wanted us to work with slr film cameras it was fine at first to learn the history part of it but it got really annoying when i would present my work to her and she would throw it away and 2 years after that i went on to doing wedding photography and got paid $400 flat for a full days work to some that might not seem like very much put compare that to $40-70 at a job where your being controlled and being told what to do and not being able to call the shots. what im trying to say if im saying anything is you can make money right now, today, have confidence in yourself and don't let asswipes who think they know it all to bring your hopes down. you can sell anything and people will buy it.

Hey Rob, really glad you made this video, since I have these doubts. I'm 28 and I've worked in a couple of game studios( mobile game work) and I was considering whether to gain a proper education online or physically. I've been in the field for 3 years approx. and I've constantly tried improving, more recently with tutorials on schoolism. I've made a lot of progress, but I'm starting to feel the limitations of working by myself and having never been exposed to a high lvl professional environment or training. A friend of mine flew over to the USA and is doing an exorbitantly priced design course( hopefully good), since he felt the need for it and his family chipped in. He's pretty good and can benefit, i'm sure. I'm anxious about continuing without training, since I could be signing my death warrant career wise if i don't. I personally really like art and work on it compulsively anyway. I'm happy to keep learning and am glad to get better, but i feel pressured to buck up and get an education. Having anxiety dictate a career progression step is kind off a bummer. I live in India, btw... Hi from India. Thank you for this vid. It helped me understand some differences in approaches.

Thanks! Your video's really helped me to make a decision on what I want to do for a living. After years of experimenting, concept art feels the most natural to me . Cheers from the Netherlands.

I learned on my own for a few years before going to art school.I agree with what he's saying but only if you are going to a good art school with motivated students.one school I went to in particular, little to no students were inspired so networking there was out of the question.many of them where in their third year and never touched a 3d program.that made me believe that networking isn't always what people make it seem.

If you don't have the skill of dedication you can skip the video, thats all.

What kind of button are we talking about because there is some pretty nice buttons?

How long is art School if you got a 4 year degree already and get a recording arts degree with general education and all? I want to finish a recording arts degree, learn how to create an entry portfolio and go into the 200k debt as an investment I've already figured out that I'm going to be a dedicated student. I'm 20 years old right now and should be finished with this degree by the time I'm 22 at least so I think I'm still young enough to pull this off. I know I'm dedicated.

Ah you went to art center! That's the school I'm the most interested in currently, at my high school we had a representative from art center come to the "art club" and he showed a lot of examples of entertainment design and talked about the 90%+ employment rate and all of this information on industry based art that I had no idea about... Well I talked to him after class and he gave me his card to email him, well I emailed him and I told him a bit about myself and my interest in concept art (I don't remember what I typed but it was a lot and probably obnoxious) and then he asked me if I can send him some thumbnail sketches and things from my sketchbook... I had nothing prepared, and I stopped drawing in sketchbook as soon as I started practicing designs due to some anxiety I was having over starting the sketchbook and the quality of the work (I know... I know...) and I emailed him back saying I did not have anything prepared and could not make it all the way to Pasadena....

for ACN, what major do you recommend for concept artists?

Look Im sure you have more experience than I do for sure , just being a student myself but I felt that right off the bat this video was biased. Most of your arguments can be refuted, I'm sure you can review them and see it for yourself , I won't be refuting all of them , but for example , CGMA has a curriculum planned out that students can adhere to if they want ( I'm sure you know what cgma is) , there's plenty of pros teaching online and mentoring people on the other side of the planet ( eg:Anthony Jones , John J. Park, James Paick and so many others) and there's a giant community of artists online that pass on work and that know each other only through the internet. Both options have their advantages and disadvantages and I could go into this very minuciously given that I have made my research extensively before taking the decision to go through online education and "self-taught" practices ( I use this term because ,yes , I'm physically alone ). So just to finish , I think you should rethink this and look at it through the eyes of an actual student that doesn't want to shell out exorbitant ammounts of money.

this is just excuse, but paying 200K for school in US when i live in central europe where avarage monthly salary is 1K dollars is pretty unimaginable....and all the shit just to get my ass to US :D well... huuuuge decision is in front of me

im dedicated i consider making art as a religion i practice it like a monk but i have no money to do art school...so i practice try to find education on internet i have a day job where i can draw at work and i do art at home

If you a gifted, meaning you are born with the talent to do art work, you don't need school. School is for people that have no idea what they want.