Mike and Jay talk about Deadpool! Mr. Plinkett tries to hang himself! Then Mike and Jay discuss all the upcoming comic book movies, which makes them want to hang themselves too!
“It’s cold outside.” “But it’s cold in here.” “Fair point.” Yeah, that’s pretty much every conversation in Wisconsin when making plans during the winter.
@Colon Cowboy one time we got very baked and went to see the Evil Dead remake. I think it was while we were openly laughing while an arm gets cut off with an electric Turkey carver that I looked over and saw the horrified face of an old woman. I laughed harder and went back to enjoying my cinema experience.
@Colon Cowboy I’m not allowed to see your comment because you called me gay and that’s pretty much ruined my day, because not a lot of people call me gay and I value others opinions.
+DreamcastGuy I don't know how likely that is to happen. The biggest roadblock to these cross over movies is the studios/whoever owns the property and good luck tracking down the elderly gypsy who licensed Space Cop to RLM.
9:30 I had a five year old kid behind me in the theatre the whole time I was watching Deadpool. Granted, I don't think a five year old is going to have any idea what half the jokes in this movie are even about, but there were a couple points where he started crying. It was both irritating and somehow added to the humour of the film.
The Winter Soldier is all about Captain America sticking to his principles over blind obedience to authority, setting up that position in Civil War. Every movie Iron Man is in moves him one step from renegade playboy with a wearable jet plane to realizing he isn't infallible and needs oversight.
***** Mordalon makes great points and I would only add that you seem to remember only the first half of those movies, namely Iron Man 2. You seem to focus on that opening scene where Tony tells the military to piss off, but ignore or forget that he did in fact end up giving Rhodey a suit and realized he isn't the only one that could make arc reactor weapons as demonstrated by Whiplash. During the diner scene Nick Fury reminds Tony and the audience that you can't just hop into a suit and make it work, they have to be coded to you. This is brought up again in IM3, therefore Tony willingly and knowingly programmed his weaponless Mk II for Rhodey to take.
Yes, and in the comic CW ark started with comparing Super Heroes Registration bill with Nazis Germany moovments to register jewish people. And Captain America decide that this bill is against freedom.
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It's partly because of new fans that the jokes continue. Someone new finds the Star Wars reviews, and now you hae a fresh face to make the same quotes the old fans got tired of.
It's funny, I watched this movie in the Netherlands, and half of the jokes were lost on the audience because they were referring to American pop culture.
I hated the Deadpool trailers and marketing and wound up enjoying the movie. Even though the origins story was more of the same Deadpool felt like a breath of fresh air amidst the other 40 superhero movies.
+Benjamin Solo Hollywood is already seeing what Guardians of the Galaxy did and are trying to recapture that magic with movies like Star Trek Beyond and Suicide Squad.
Hmm....If the parents can't make a solid decision on taking the kids to see a movie titled "Deadpool" that has a huge R rating, then maybe they shouldn't have made the decision to be parents to begin with.
I thought surely the ushers look at the tickets and say 'Ma'am you can't take children in to see this movie'. How did the children even make it into the cinema?
@@daneroberts1996 lol ushers? you mean the 16 year old who just wants to get people into the theater and go on break? They don't give a shit, you paid for the ticket, they let you take whoever you want in there.
Mike’s talking about exploring Superman and Batman’s realistic implications and I’m just over here like, we got that in the 80s. It was called Watchmen. Zack Sneider should know, he made the damn movie.
+Mozts1 No one wants a bad movie. Batman v. Superman is a concept that given to a good writer could be good. I love these characters and want it to be good. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like its in the right hands DC is trying way too hard to be Marvel rather than just doing their own thing.
+jstarwars360 They are and they aren't trying to be Marvel. They're trying to make the tone of their movies different at least, but they're also trying to do the whole massive shared universe thing like Marvel is doing it.
@Johan Liberal BvS aimed high(er than your average superhero movie), I'll give it that. However, it ended up failing on nearly every level. Between that and Suicide Squad, they may as well rename themselves the "DC-takes-itself-way-too-f**king-seriously-EU". So, as far as i'm concerned, their entire camp can STFU about Marvel's "villain problem" until they themselves actually make something halfway decent. Their piggybacking off the "greatness" of Nolan's TDK trilogy is starting to get old.
Pretty sure whoever said it was too smart for audiences had only read a three sentence plot synopsis. "Huh, a superhero being tried in court over the damage he caused in the last movie? That sounds relatively sophisticated!" And then it was just another bad action movie.
I'm sure they thought BvS had deep and meaningful things to say about the nature of man, fear, and power... in between the sequences where a grown man dresses up as a bat, and swings a space god through concrete pillars by the foot.
+gorskiegangsta It's hilarious how they think Marvel's villain problem means that all of DC's fuck-ups are justified. As though Marvel's one flaw is somehow worse than all of DC's flaws.
Colossus was great in this movie. He was a random meathead, made of steal, hell bent on doing the right thing regardless of circumstance and it was humorous in its own way.
Interestingly, I think the argument of "Just give fans what they want!" is wrong. The average fan doesnt know what he wants. Or rather he wants, often, to make his franchise darker, more serious, to show his character more powerfull (as he is in the comics ie. deadpool teleporting arround or superman straight up pulverizing aliens). Sometimes it fits, ususally it doesnt. There was one period in the comic book industry history when the creators shifted more to indulging in the fans needs. It was the nineties and it was terrible.
+Favar1 I remember watching a Zero Punctuation where Yahtzee said that the worst thing you can do is give the fans what the want because they'll usually say that they want more of the same of what they're getting. You have to give them something they want that they didn't know that they wanted.
Well ok then, i Misspoke i guess. Not a hardcore comic book fan here, but I have read knightfall and yea, its bad. Maybe its just my perception of the times. I certainly wasnt lying.
+Favar1 I disagree. Not only are all fans different but also when you just make them darker and more powerful because the studios thinks the fans want it you and you get. "Fant4stic". Those fans of the comic wanted a good FF movie and they got one... The Incredibles. The fans wanted a fun family of superheros. The fans want the details as correct as possible and the core of the series reflected. You do that you win and make money.
Not really. Listen to what the fans say and use that as a starting point. Then take your expertise and experience decide which fan suggestion you want to go with and turn that suggestion into something good even if you have tweak it a bit, feel free to mix in your own ideas as you go. Completely disregarding the fans will earn you nothing but scorn.
+Favar1 "The average fan doesnt know what he wants." Incorrect line of thinking. It is more appropriate to say that fans know exactly what they want, it is just that they cannot agree as a group on what they want collectively.
People just don’t get it. The reason Deadpool was successful was because it was true to the character. The same with the Nolan Batman movies. It’s not that dark and gritty is inherently good. It’s that dark and gritty FIT for Batman and Deadpool.
I loved how Deadpool himself basically bitchslapped a kid whose mom was petitioning the studio to release a pg13 cut so her son could watch it in the theaters.
I think the whole "Why isn't Captain America pro-regulation and Iron Man anti?" question about Civil War ignores the significant character development these two characters have undergone throughout the series. In Iron Man 1 and 2, Tony was all about refuting authority and being a celebrity-hero on his own terms, but gradually he obsessed more and more with developing technology to make the world as safe as possible, regardless of the risks and sacrifices he would need to make in order to do so. On the other hand, Captain America started out as just an obedient soldier, but over the course of his movies he learned that there was more to loving his country, and more to being a force for good in the world, than just obeying orders. He disobeyed orders in The First Avenger to save his friends, and The Winter Soldier was pretty much 100% Steve disobeying authority figures because their actions were evil. Where these characters ideologically clash became clear in Age of Ultron, when they basically had a mini Civil War over whether or not to create Vision: Steve wasn't willing to risk creating another Ultron despite how much was already at stake; Tony was willing to take the risk if the reward was being able to defeat the Ultron he'd already created. With this in mind, it's pretty clear why Iron Man would champion safety over unrestricted freedom, and Captain America would champion liberty over security.
Jack Christmas it comes down to this; cap believes that people can be trusted because he trusts himself to do the right thing. Iron man believes that people should be regulated because he can't trust himself to make the right decision
"just some off issue of a comic"... Mike got it. He understood the movie. He understood what Deadpool is. Ok, now I'm gonna go flagellate myself for agreeing with Mike. Also, Mike hoping for BvS to be good but also suspecting it will suck. Perfection.
It's a really solid comedy in a genially by the numbers comic book film. The "refreshing"ness of it all is a big part of what makes it work. Really curious to see how Logan turns out.
+Wethewax people also said fox is closer to marvel.... Which is funny because they only own 3 of the movie rights.... So what I am saying is don't take these people seriously
I think the Iron Man and Cap sides make sense if you think that Tony has been gravitating from his roguish ways to a more authoritarian perspective (maintain control to oppose threats). Then you have Cap who started under an authoritarian perspective and became disenfranchised to due to the capacity for corruption of governing bodies (and of course Hydra).
+canegemen tuna That's what I'm saying though. Cap started out as a soldier following the rules, but events in Avengers and in the Winter Soldier make him question and not trust authority. His character is developing to be more loyal to his close friends than to authority.
Actually Cap's and IM's expected roles being reversed from what you'd expect in the Civil War movie is one of the more interesting things about it. Stark has been on a long arc since the first movie, of becoming more chastened and more responsible, meanwhile Cap's arc has been (via Winter Soldier) mainly on a course of "do these organizations actually represent what I stand for?" What turns a natural rebel into an upholder of the law, and what turns a soldier into a rebel? Add into the mix the fact that they were starting to become good friends despite their very different personalities, and the clash should add a bit of depth to the movie.
I loved it. It's weird in 2023 looking at that huge slate of upcoming superhero releases and knowing that they have all been and gone, only to be replaced by yet another huge slate of upcoming superhero releases...
It’s wild how they mention both James Gunn and Suicide Squad, and here we are with James Gunn’s The Suicide Squad, an R rated superhero movie that wouldn’t be here without Deadpool
Captain America and Iron Man are inverted because that has been their story arc! Cap grows away from the chain of command after being betrayed and feeling compelled to help his friend. Tony Stark is emotionally defeated and just wants someone else to call the shots so he can just be a cog in the machine. It's exactly how is should be.
One of my third grade students said his dad took him to see Deadpool. I was kind of surprised but then again most of my third graders' parents seemingly let them play GTA on a regular basis as well. In any case, he told he that he had apparently fallen asleep during Deadpool and couldn't remember much about it.
That’s why I thought Civil War was so great. Yes, Cap as a solider would normally follow the rules and be ok with a higher authority overseeing the Avengers and Tony would be against it. BUT, the events of Age of Ultron showed Tony that he did need oversight and he almost destroyed the world through his own recklessness. And Cap realized from the events of Winter Soldier of Hydra infiltrating SHIELD and the government compromised at the highest levels that he couldn’t just blindly follow orders but so what is right no matter what. Character Arcs and continuity! I love it.
I loved the doctor strangelove jokes. It took me a second before I realized he replaced "bomb" with "fant4stic", and I laughed my ass off, I love slightly obscure references.
Didn´t like the movie too much. It is a 6/10 Movie for me. Everyone is saying: "Wooow, Deadpool is so revolutionary, because it is a funny, brutal superhero movie!" Kick Ass and Kingsman did the same thing and in my opinion those movies were way better. :)
Yep. Kick-Ass is way better than Deadpool. It was funny when it wanted to be, it was mature when it wanted to be, and it was goofy when it wanted to be. It was also C-A-R-R-I-E-D by Chloe Moretz and Nicolas Cage. Too bad Chloe Moretz lost whatever talent she had when she turned 12. What a horrible actress.
I thought Deadpool was okay. I laughed occasionally, but overall I found it witless and puerile, and I think the writers tried to hard to make the audience notice the film was rated "R." On top of that, the film becomes what it initially parodies: there's a trite, superficial romance that has no business being in the film and yet the whole plot revolves around it, the antagonists are generic psychopaths with no backstory or emotion, and it ends implying that Deadpool has some decency in him, which he doesn't. Personally, if I had written this film, I would have had it revolving around Deadpool trying to murder Rob Liefeld and Fabien Nicizia, and the whole film would be about how the comic book industry's business models ruined Hollywood. That's just me, though.
Fuckin' Hell. I watched Deadpool twice now for various reasons and it's fine or whatever, but that's not my comment. I've been battling this for a while. Mike is kinda hot right? Or at least handsome? I dunno. People always disagree with me but... Ya know. I dunno. I think he's cute.
Deadpool facts: 1. Hollywood is going to burn this franchize to the ground. 2. This was not Marvel reinventing itself, it was a push from a select few key person. Probably Renolds being the best salesman.
Spawn and Dredd 2 are the only comic book movies I can think of that should be rated R. People who want R Batman are stupid, and so are the studios who are gonna start that trend. What those people don't understand is Deadpool wasn't successful just because it was a hard R, it was successful because it was faithful to the source material. A little toned down, but it was appropriate for who Deadpool is. It's not appropriate for 99% of all other superhero movies. DC should either embrace that Superman is a boyscout, or not even bother making his movies. From man of steel and BvS I can see they are ashamed of that character, not even saying his name once in MoS. The same goes for the rest of the upcoming DC characters that are still riding the Nolan trend. And based on Deadpool's success I'm afraid they're not gonna fix that any time soon. Hopefully movies like the dark gritty Aquaman and Wonder Woman will bomb, and stop the trend.
Have to agree with Jay about R-movies and kids. I saw Alien at 8 or 10 and it blew my fucking mind. There is no movie experience that will ever equal that for me.
+Protips yeah but movies like Deadpool are pushing the bar on the vulgar side even more, that's why people don't want their kids to see those movies, they don't want them listening to a character that is meant to be the lead cursing
+TOKAGERO1 I agree with you, I've watched plenty of R rated movies as a kid abs there's just something exciting about knowing you shouldn't be watching it. But deadpool is a completely different type of R movie.
I just don't know how shocking it would be given today's society. If you've ever played PvP on any shooter co-op, you hear the kind of profanity from little kids that I would have been grounded for a decade for.
In the Civil War comic story, Iron Man is pro-registration and Captain America is anti-registration. This was presented as Tony Stark realizing that the public and government were on the verge of wanting all super heroes outlawed, so he saw the need to agree to join forces with SHIELD rather than be hunted down and arrested. Cap doesn’t agree with being forced to do this and fighting other heroes. The Civil War film is using the same story framework, but in the Marvel films Tony Stark is even further motivated to have superheroes be government controlled, as he creates Ultron who then goes rogue and tries to kill billions of people. This event is what causes the government in the Civil War film to draw the line against super heroes functioning on their own in the world. Captain America in the film feels basically the same as in the comics, that freedom is the most important thing to protect and that no government should have that much control over people, despite the fact that he is a soldier who normally follows orders (this was alluded to already in the Winter Soldier film). I think that, although it seems backwards on the surface, that these viewpoints give these two characters an interesting arc: Tony Stark goes from an arrogant vigilante who mocks the government to a more humble philanthropist who sees the need for public safety in a world of super powers, and Steve Rogers goes from military hero who follows orders fighting for America to a somewhat disillusioned man out of time who finds himself fighting for freedom against his own government and his fellow heroes.
So far as I can tell, Iron Man probably feels guilty for nearly causing humanity's extinction by creating Ultron. He would, therefore, want to restrict what people like him can do so that it won't happen again. Captain America has already gone against the powers that be in Winter Soldier, so it's not completely unreasonable to ask the audience to believe that he'd do it again. That's how I interpreted it though.
Comic Nerd here, The reason Capt America is the rebel vigilante is actually the result of some of the most elegant storytelling in any comicbook. Civil War was written as a reflection of 9/11 and America's disillusionment and distrust of the government during times of questionable wars and Patriot Act privacy invasions... Marvel reflected this zeitgeist by producing their own Patriot Act, where american pie heroes were forced to have their private lives subjugated to a ruling class (aka billionaires like tony stark calling the shots in homeland security like groups such as SHiELD) and the only voice of reason against the tyranny was the soldier himself, not unlike the troops who sacrificed so much for a highly argued goal in the Middle East. America had lost its way but still clung to her ideals, just like Cap going rouge and underground, but unwillingly to let go of his principles, no matter skewed they were becoming...
Just because the movie is rated R and has 4th wall breaks doesn't make it a "revolutionary risk-taking" film you hacks are making it up to be. I myself have had this comic book movie fatigue for a while, but I feel the reason why some comic book films like The Dark Knight and The Winter Solder were so great was because they felt nothing like comic book movies. The Dark Knight was like a thrilling detective story that applied a lot of social commentary on modern day issues like terrorism, the justice system, etc and The Winter Solder reminded me of such exciting spy movies like Mission Impossible. These movies didn't rely on lore alone of the source material to deliver a worthwhile standalone movie, which was why they were seen as such game changers for comic book movies.
The compelling idea behind Civil War is the very fact that you'd think Captain American and Iron Man's perspectives should be flipped, but their character development has led them to the point that they question everything they stood for, which makes the story more interesting to me. Tony's has seen the results of his work without supervision, and Steve has gone from soldier to spy and sees how dirty the government it, and how blindly following orders leads nowhere good.
