Half in the Bag Episode 117: Box Office Number Crunching 

I have come back from the future and the results are in! The Mummy Budget - $125 m Domestic - $80m International - $330m RT - 16 Beauty and the Beast Budget - $160m Domestic - $500m International - $760m RT - 71 Power Rangers Budget - $100m Domestic - $85 International - $56 RT - 44 Transformers Budget - $217m Domestic - $130m International - $475m RT - 16 Justice league Budget - $300m Domestic - $227m International - $425m RT - 40 Spider-Man Budget - &175m Domestic - $334m International - $545m RT - 92 Jumanji Budget - $90m Domestic - $404m International - $962 RT - 76 I really hope that someone else sees this.

"You know how many Chinese people there are? Who's gonna notice a couple missing?" -Jay Bauman pre-coronavirus

10:57 It's simple, really: the Chinese don't have any attachment to Star Wars (as it was blocked for decades by the Chinese government), but they do have one for Warcraft (since WoW has a huge Chinese following). It doesn't help that TFA relied on knowledge and nostalgia for the original trilogy to draw in the core fans of the franchise.

Wow with a Bollywood soundtrack Transformers may actually be watchable!

I sure hope they re-uploaded the video to fix the part at the end where they finish the joke about Bridgett Jones's Baby/ Nursing home joke.

Jay saying "oh my god" always breathes life into me

I like how at 1:43 Jay says the episode will be over in approximately 26 minutes, and then it ends exactly 26 minutes 16 seconds later

Don't worry, I'm sure that in 5 years, movies will have a budget with $500 Mil. and only make half back and Hollywood will still be like, "IT'S NOT WORKING! THROW MORE MONEY AT IT!!"

1:56 no payoff for the Bridget Jones Nursing timer

7:20 Don't you mean..."how em-ben-hur-assing?" Thank you, thank you.

"You know how many Chinese people there are? Who's going to miss a couple?" - The Chinese Government

I actually like these videos a lot. This, whenever they get cynical about the industry. The Jack and Jill videos. They're great work

I was in the middle of watching this and it disappeared. Hacks

Mike Stoklastradamus

2015: "The death of the summer blockbuster" 2020: 😒

Notice how Finn is drastically scaled down in the chinese movie poster

Adding Bollywood music to the Transformers movies instantly fixed them.

As a Vancouver resident, I'd like to thank half of these tallentless hacks for reinvigorating the BC economy with the overpriced flops they chose to film in our scenic film tax haven where labour costs are 75 cents on the dollar. We're quite literally going through a film boom right now based on movies that no one will care about in six months time. Thank you, Hollywood.

I honestly thought the Superhero fatigue would've started with Age Of Ultron.

Oct. 2017 checking in, let's see how you guys did: *(Updated Feb. 2018)* *The Mummy* Budget: $125-195 million (A little over what you guessed) Box office (total) $409.1 million, (a lot more than you guessed.) RT score: 16% (Significantly worse than you guessed) *Beauty and the Beast* Budget: $160 million (30% more than you guessed) Box office: $1.263 billion (A shitload more than you guessed, turns out it really was a stable bet) RT Score: 71% (You were close!) *Power Rangers* Budget: $100 million (A little less than you predicted) Box office: $142.3 million ( A good bit less, turned out if flopped pretty hard in the Asian markets) RT Score: 44% (Higher than you thought, but still pretty shit) *Jumanji (Welcome to the Jungle)* Budget: $90-$110 million (A good bit less than you predicted) Box Office: 919.9 million (Almost 3 times what you predicted) RT Score: 76% (Again, far higher than you predicted. It seems Sony's Jumanji remake starring The Rock was actually pretty solid. Go figure.) *Transformers 5 (The Last Knight)* Budget: $217 Million (Close, but higher) Box office: $605.4 million (A *LOT* less than you predicted. Definitely dipped below the 1B mark. I'd say this could be the end if there wasn't already a spin -off and a 6th film in the making) RT Score: 15% (Even less than what you predicted. Again, yadda yadda, end but more in the planning.) *Justice League* Budget: $300 million (A little more, but you were still close) Box Office: $657.6 (A great deal less than you predicted) RT Score: 40% (A little higher, but you were very close) And finally, *Spider-Man: Homecoming* (The wild card) Budget: $175 million (Close, but a little less) Box Office: $879.7 million (VERY close to your domestic/international combined guess) RT Score: 92%, higher than you predicted and definitely better than the last ones. You guys said it best: "3rd time's the charm! That's what Sony would have said if they wanted to remind the world of the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man movies!"

That feel when you get a notification that there is a new RLM video twice in one day. But you realize it's the same video. Fucking Hacks.

oh fuck, they are remaking Jumanji with kevin hart......holy fuck end this world already aliens

16:08 Bizarrely that Indian music fits well on that scene.

“50,000 people used to work here. Now it’s a ghost town.” -Sony Pictures

The general rule is the film makers get about half the gross world wide box office (55% domestic, 45% foreign) but you have to add $30 to $150 million to the production budget for marketing/advertising. Each distribution company gets different deals per movie and with different cinemas (AMC gets a different deal than Regal and the solo screen/regional chain cinemas also get different terms). The cut favors the film makers for the first few (and the most lucrative) weeks then favors the cinema after about a month. In the 2000s when the studios had HUGE DVD sales they had cinemas over a barrel and got much better splits. Now that home theater sales are much weaker and more cinemas are corporately owned, the studios get a smaller take.

What about Space Cop? What are its numbers?

It's 2021 and I'm still waiting for that joke, Mike

3:22 When he listed the biggest movies of 2016 I got really depressed and realized what a dark era that time was in retrospect.

Don't believe me? It's all in the numbers... Number one: that's terror. Number two: that's terror.

Hopefully GhostBusters flopping results in no Back to the Future quick cash exploit remake.

they should do this every year

5:52 "I'm sure somebody bought a really nice couch." -Jay Predicting Hollywood Scandal of 2017

"Jay, can you guess the last two movies that flopped this summer?" "Uhhhh . . ." "It was The BFG!" And? AND?

Why are these two VHS repair guys talking about Box office numbers? Get back to work you hacks!

Aaaaaaand Beauty and the Beast makes a billion dollars. I mean I don't think anyone would've predicted that.

2,751,630 minutes later and we haven’t gotten the Bridget Jones joke.

They reloaded the whole thing just to fix the music at 12:55 lol

This is so much better than Screen Junkies' cringe inducing talks.

You guys got your math wrong. Rule of thumb is a film needs 2.5x the production budget to break even & cover marketing. Studio gets 50% worldwide box office on average, theaters get the other 50%. Hollywood Studio's usually keep the marketing cost a secret. To make films seem more profitable than they actually were. To inflate their stock value. BvS production budget was 250mil plus 150mil marketing. BvS break even was 800million. Ghostbusters budget was 144million minus 6mil tax credit plus 100 million marketing. Break even was 488million.

Leave it to a bunch of hack frauds to say they're going to revisit this a year later to only end up never bringing it up again

The end part about hearing executives blowing their brains out in the Hollywood hills was fucking hilarious.

They corrected the drop at 12:56 (over-saturation).

The studios don't take 100% of the box office. They split around 50/50 with domestic theatres and only take 20-25% from Chinese theatres. So, a lot of movies actually don't make money back. E.g. Warcraft needed $450-500 million to break even. It didn't make $113 million as Mike said.

10:50 To be entirely fair, Blizzard certainly knew they were doing to do gangbusters in China. They have a huge number of people who play that game in China. The movie and game could've been about watching paint dry, China would've shelled out money to go see one of the first MMORPG videogames they were allowed to play.

Surprised you didn't mention this summer's biggest hit - Independence Day: Regurgitation. Also Guardians of the Galaxy 2 next year. And another Pirates of the Caribbean movie, which is basically the fantasy/adventure version of the Transformers franchise.

Funny watching this in 2019, I've forgotten about so many of these movies

Old video, but I was a bit baffled you guys did not understand the 2x rule. The 2-2.5x rule is about accounting for the 50%-40% of the gross studios actually receive. If a movie has a 200M budget and 100M in marketing costs, if don’t break even at all for the studio at 300M of BO.

The Mummy - Budget:125M - DBO:80M -IBO:329M -RTS:37% Beauty & The Beast - Budget:160M - DBO:504M - IBO:759M - RTS:81% Power Rangers - Budget:100M - DBO:85M - IBO: 57M - RTS:67% Jumanji - Releasing 12/20/17 (No numbers available yet) Transformers 5 - Budget:200M - DBO:130M - IBO: 475M - RTS:46% Justice League - Releasing 11/17/17 (No numbers available yet) Spiderman - Budget:175M - DBO:333M - IBO: 546M - RTS:89% 25:10 for comparison

Gotta say, I'm a little dissappoited in the RLM fanbase. There was a Plinkett review last week and the channel isn't flooded with new memes yet.

Ghostbusters(remake) is the best Ghostbusters remake featuring 4 female ghostbusters!!1

it makes me so sad that Kubo And The Two Strings didn't do well because it's such a beautiful film. granted i didn't see it in theaters for same reasons as everyone else but it's so worth it y'all pls watch it.

25:25 - I marked this on my calendar. I came back, just like you guys said. WHERE'S MY FREAKING UPDATE, YOU HACK FRAUDS?

I assume this is the reason that Great Wall movie is being made. "Why are we trying to gamble on what the Chinese want? Let's just make a movie set in China and they'll have to buy it!"

Kubo and the two strings is one of my favourite films this year. Just a really magical experience. Like the Disney of yesteryear

Count how many times Jay says "oh my god..." in this video.

I wrote "Hack Frauds" on my calendar and then forgot what that meant.

Is this replacing Half in the Bag Episode 117: Box Office Number Crunching?

I think ghostbuster's rotten tomatoes score owes to how aggressively okay it is. RT only rates how many people thought a movie was passable - not how much people actually liked it. It's like how most people who eat a big mac feel decently satisfied with the purchase but nothing more.

Count how many times Susan says "Oooh my Gaaaawd".

The Mummy - Production Budget 125 Million Domestic: 12 million (as of June 9) Foreign: $139 million Total: 151 million. Rotten Tomatoes: 17% as of June 10.

Please do more of these cynical analysis videos, it's absolutely fantastic to hear you roast film studios and their logic.

Holy shit! Mike hit the rotten tomato score for "beauty and the beast" on the nose and almost hit Domestic box office right on too! This guy knows his Blockbuster monotony!

This episode of "Mike reads a bunch of numbers" kicked ass

You know, after all these episodes the thing I've come to appreciate most about this channel is how much you commit to genuine destruction of shit. You don't just pretend to smash a hammer into a TV screen, you genuinely smash a hammer into it. When you throw glass and hear it shatter it's real, you don't hold anything back and you don't second guess any of it before or after you do it. I have to say one of my first memorable moments I had when watching your videos was seeing Mike casually throw a bottle over his shoulder and it violently smashes on the ground. How often do you see people casually do this kind of shit in their movie reviews?

When just realize that the Transformers series is one of the most financially dependable in Hollywood it helps you to understand the state that the film industry is in. Why bother making films with decent scripts or characters when you can throw some crap together on screen and rely on nostalgia to bring the dollars in.

My phone gave me a reminder to re-watch this episode. I can't remember why I put in the reminder, but I remember it was a year ago so I'm excited to find out!

space cop was, of course, the highest grossing film of 2016 or of any year tbh

right i'm here in Nov 17 - still waiting for the Bridget Jones joke but it seems these men on pause

Kubo and the Two Strings was a great movie. Too bad it flopped....

it's insane such an insane profit can be a loss, what a sick joke

The Bollywood music over the transformers footage is fucking hilarious

Hey, if you want to see how well Mike's predictions were, I made a spreadsheet. Here is a summary of the results: The Mummy: Under estimated the Int. B.O a bit, but was way off with an RT score 21% higher than the actual RT score of 15%. Beauty and the beast: Wildly under estimated the B.O (Dom: $500 mil; Int: $750 mil) but the RT score was spot on. Power Rangers: Fairly close in the B.O, but under estimated the RT score by 19%. Currently it sits at 45%. Transformers 5: Over estimated in B.O and RT score but the Int. B.O was much less than he thought at $380 mil. Unfortunately it's still bringing in over double it's budget. Spider-man: Bit too soon to say for the B.O, but the RT score is 21% higher than predicted. Currently at 93%. Jumanji and Justice league are expected to be released at the end of the year. I'll try to keep this updated. Overall, Mike has been close on budget; Fairly variable results on the B.O, both over and underestimating in both markets; and on average, 10% off on RT scores. I think the results Transformers and Beauty and the beast really threw of his scores but the others were fairly close.

Being Indian, I totally lost my shit at 16:08 Excellent Job boys! 😂 Transformers footage set to the song Nagada: BRILLIANT!!!

"There's a joke in there somewhere." Every frame is so dense...

That last joke about Hollywood executives killing themselves is COMEDY GOLD.

Don't theaters take their cut too? and what about taxes??

I'm an Indian and i laughed hard at the Bollywood joke. Binge-watched your channel a few days ago. You guys are very funny.

Spoiler alert, they don't talk about how great masterminds is

The Mummy: Predictions - Budget $120m | BO $28m | I.B.O $100m | RT 36% Actual - Budget $125m | BO $75m | IBO $300m | RT 15% Difference - Budget $5m | B.O 47m | IBO 200m | RT 21% The Beauty and the Beast: Predictions - Budget $120m | BO $110m | $300m | RT 74% Actual - Budget $160m | BO $503m | $756m | RT 71% Difference - Budget $40m | BO $393m | $456m | RT 3% The Power Rangers: Predictions - Budget $120m | BO $50m | $200m | RT 26% Actual - Budget $100m | BO $85m | $54m | RT 46% Difference - Budget $20m | BO $35m | $146m | RT 20% Jumanji: Predictions - Budget $150m | BO $250m | $78m | RT 31% Actual - N/A Difference - Probably a lot Transformers 5 TLK: Predictions - Budget $200m | BO $230m | $900m | RT 21% Actual - Budget $235m | BO $105m | $339m | RT 15% Difference - Budget $35m | BO $125m | $561m | RT 6% Is indeed the first one that dips below the billions Justice League: Predictions - Budget $250m | BO $350m | $600m | RT 34% Actual - N/A Difference - Probably a higher budget Spiderman Homecoming: Predictions - Budget $200m | BO $300m | $600m | RT 72% Actual - N/A Difference - Who knows. So far the closest thing you got is the RT Scores. Hack Frauds exposed?

And don't forget guys... it's not just the box office that movies make money from. There's also the following (plus more): - Bluray/DVD sales - Music Soundtrack sales - Product placements within the movies - Cable TV rights / Streaming rights / Rentals - Free to air TV rights - Public display rights (such as planes, trains, cruise ships) - Merchandise (toys, action figures, LEGO, posters, stationary, clothing, calendars, etc) - Video games - Books (new works, companion books, etc) - Collector cards (like Panini) Also the following applies more with the big budget movies..... they'll do research and development to further expand technology that they'll then sell to other studios. For example the special effects company for Lord of the Rings (I think WETA Digital from memory) developed software called MASSIVE for their large crowd simulations which have since been used by many movies and TV shows since then

This is still relevant in 2019

From the description: Also, WE’RE HACKS! Our Box Office figures didn’t factor in the theater chains’ take of the profits. Sorry about the oversight!

This half-hour video taught me more about movies than my Film Studies minor.

This is the work I admire you guys for!

2:57 mao zedong said something very similar, jay...

How much did Space Cop make? Guys? Hello? Oh...

Mike was actually really on the money with Power Rangers. As of 6/6/17, it had a budget of 100 million and has made 140 million worldwide thus far. Interestingly, though, it's made significantly more here than international. His RT score was pretty rough, though, with it currently sitting at 46%. He couldn't have been more wrong with BatB, though. It cost 160 million to make and has net 1.2 BILLION dollars as of this writing, with a 40-60 split between domestic and foreign. It sits at 71% on RT though, so he was pretty close there.

Whenever someone mentions 'The Magnificent 7' it just makes me want to Seven Samurai, again. Bloody great movie.

Can you do a 2019 update that would be really interesting maybe turn it into a game show called 'Flop or Not'

I love these analytical videos, *DO MORE!*

I loved the analysis please keep doing episodes like this! :D

This is one of the best channels on youtube. Keep it going guys!

8:56 Mike's jokes like that are the reason I keep coming back to RedLetterMedia

Hahaha I wanna see what you guys thought of Deepwater Horizon.

Great video, you guys are absolutely hilarious but it's always nice to hear you talk about something seriously. Keep it up

I know this is, gods, a video you guys uploaded years ago -- but I wanted to say that I keep re-watching it to get that amazing Transformers / Bollywood mash-up. Thank you for everything you guys do. If I am ever in the area, I want to buy you guys dinner.

2017 Predictions 17:17 The Mummy Budget: 125-195 Mil Domestic: 80.2 Mil International: 329 Mil RT: 19% 17:55 Beauty and the Beast Budget: 160 Mil Domestic: 504 Mil International: 759.5 Mil RT: 71% 18:30 Power Rangers Budget: 100 Mil Domestic: 85.4 Mil International: 57 Mil RT: 44% 19:45 Jumanji Budget: 90-110 Mil Domestic: 262.3 Mil International: 279.4 Mil RT: 75% 20:03 Transformers 5 Budget: 217-260 Mil Domestic: 130.2 Mil International: 475.3 Mil RT: 16% 20:55 Justice League Budget: 300 Mil Domestic: 227.2 Mil International: 427.2 Mil RT: 40% 24:56 Spider-Man: Homecoming Budget: 175 Mil Domestic: 334.2 Mil International: 546 Mil RT: 92%

Personally i believe DC shouldn't bother with having a cinematic universe, i mean think about it most of the new DC movies were bad and flops..

I freaking love you guys 😂😂😂 that ending killed me

"You know how many Chinese people there are? No one's gonna notice a few missing." "Oh my god..." 😂😂😂 That was so fucking funny!!