Three things I was pleasantly surprised to see in a Tarantino film: 1. a memorable child performance 2. a memorable animal performance 3. a memorable flamethrower performance
@@NostalgiNorden Seriously though I'd never seen a kid actor that young before and thought "Y'know, that's a real kid." until I saw the performance for B.B in that movie.
One of my favorite scenes was just the two guys sitting around watching FBI and drinking beer and talking over it and laughing. It really felt authentic.
Yeah wow, commentating over a clip drinking beer haha that's what everyone does right? If I say it feels authentic everyone will think I do the same thing, it's so cool yeah wow
Funny, they didn't mention the meta ending. Cliff does almost all the fighting and dangerous work, Rick gets a closeup doing something very showy and flashy and gets all the credit...stuntman and star.
To be fair, movie magic can do amazing things. I would at least _ask_ if they could do something about it. He doesn't complain, he just asks. They say "It's a flamethrower" he says "Okay" and moves on without complaints... IDK, I'd ask as well. Who knows? Maybe some cooling gel on the face? Goggles to help the eyes? Anything to get that most intense shot possible, ya know?
@@got5432 that's like a weird running gag in Leonardo diCaprio's career-he pulled the exact same shit complaining about the cold water in _Titanic_ and Cameron just left it in.
That bit at the beginning was the shortest, weakest, most anemic attempt at a traditional Half In The Bag storyline segment I've ever seen. Keep up the good work.
Gone are the days of haphazard shootings, beer bottle-strewn parties, erupting colostomy bags, and gay potion cakes 😞. Plinkett's abode has become just another boring run-of-the-mill centigenarian psycopath's pigsty.
The alternative was to accept a comments section filled with nothing but, "Why are you guys so sweaty in this episode? Is it because you're in the wrong seats?" Luckily they're still getting plenty of the second bit. I'm sure there's a satisfactory explanation forthcoming.
I work in Westwood village literally a block away from the Bruin Theater where Sharron Tate watches her movie. I was there while they were filming and the way they transformed those 2 blocks into 1969 was surreal. Even down to the newspaper stands having old newspapers in them.
Yep, I was an extra on a movie set, driving my own car. The actually changed the registration sticker on my windshield to a New York State registration sticker.
"When Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio are starring in a movie together, and it is second to a movie with CGI lions that you've seen before, the era of Hollywood A-List stars is done." Depressing, but well said.
It's kinda accurate but also a bit overkill. The Lion King is child-friendly combined with nostalgia factor for adults. Once Upon A Time In Hollywood is relevant to film fans and Tarantino fans, much more limited in audience appeal.
@@Trendyflute and a year later, it's already dead. Gladly. I don't see much anticipation for Marvel Phase who-knows. "Endgame" really was the end. I tried watching "Love and Thunder" and "Eternals". Fell asleep more than once and couldn't finish Eternals at all. Just too plain boring. "Star Wars" is pretty much dead in the water, too. Episode 9 just sucked. "Let's just get the Emperor back and reshoot 'Return of the Jedi' only more boring with larger plot holes and breaking canon.
I was with a dead ass audience that had no sense of humor. I still laughed out loud as fuck. The dude next to me was awkward as hell, killin my vibes. had a whole fist up his ass. when he brought out the flame thrower i was in tears.
I feel like Sharon not being replaced in Wrecking Crew with Margot Robby was simply because Sharon was an actual real person, rather then Rick Dalton screen testing a scene, who sadly enough, isn't real.
Whatever it was, it broke the suspension of disbelief for me. Robbie is a decent representation of Tate, but when you see them side by side you know it's two different people and that took me out of the movie.
Agreed! She was taken from the world too early as it is. It would have been a huge disservice to erase her further. I felt it was the most touching 4th wall brush (not quite break) to leave those snippets of her performance in tact.
Syklone personally It didn’t take me out of it because I was thinking about the context of the movie the whole time. In that moment it made me think of Sharon the person and I appreciated it for that.
@@visionist7 yeah, I went with people who don't watch films with subtitles on, so I couldn't appreciate the real performances, but the dubbers were really good and maybe I will watch it again once it comes out on bluray in original
@@tlr9403 Well because it's easy to remember legends like Sergio Leone, but like all the italian directors at the time got aboard the Westerns train and most of them were utter trash
The girl that drove away, I think her name was Linda, was new to the Manson family on the night of the murders and wasn’t completely on board. In reality, she was told to go check the back of 10050 Cielo for open windows. She found some opened, but lied and said there were closed, hoping that they would call off the mission. Unfortunately they found open windows in the front of the house. During the trials, she went against the family as a witness. So I think that Tarantino got her to drive away because he knew that it was something she would do, that she wasn’t pure evil like the rest of them and wouldn’t feel right brutally killing her off.
I feel it should be noted that no one but Linda Kasabian agrees with that version of events. Literally everyone else (and the evidence available) suggests she took a more active role.
They had to turn somebody for immunity and she was the least "mansoned". Also they even absurdly try to pin it all in her, that she was actually the mastermind haha.
Another factoid about the murders: they were planning on writing racially charged messages in the victims' blood implicating the Black Panthers. That's why it was supposed to start a race war. Still completely insane (especially since they thought the small minority of black people in the country were going to win the race war and then the white Manson family was going to come out of their bomb shelter and be immediately accepted as rulers by the black people who had killed all the other whites), but there was some method to the madness. Of course, the whole thing was inspired by a Beatles album and a lot of drugs.
Margot as Sharon didn't need a lot of dialogue. Her sitting in the theater loving the little laughs that her part got out of the people is one of the most genuine things I've seen in a movie and one of the best scenes
It was an adorable scene that did a lot to endear her character to the audience which sets up stakes for the dreaded assumed ending of the movie because we like her innocent character. It didnt need dialogue. From that scene we get that she's shy and a little insecure but really happy that people enjoy her movies. For example the ticket lady not recognizing her or trusting other people would recognize her if she wasnt next to the poster shows that she isnt quite famous and gets a genuine joy in seeing people enjoy her performances and how hard she worked on them from the quick cut to her training with bruce lee. But no, the audience needs to be spoon fed dialogue for a character to be important according to the clickbait lady.
The Tate scenes were lovely, but I felt they made the film grind to a halt. I was trying to enjoy them, but honestly I just wanted to get back to Cliff and Rick.
13:37 to Jay’s point the best nail in the coffin to the Manson Family in the movie was when Cliff completely botches Tex’s “I’m the devil” line when he’s telling it to the cops at the end. “He said ‘I’m the devil and I’m here to do... I don’t know some devil shit’, I don’t know” it’s like their entire legacy is taken away by the ending. Even Rick and Cliff don’t even know why they were there. Their ideology never gets exposure. Brilliant. Edit: 19:43 that is taken loosely from a quote from the trial. Also: the girl who leaves is in fact the Manson girl who turned on the rest and testified against them at the trial, and left halfway through the murders to sit in the car because she was so disturbed by the others’ level of depravity. Tarantino has done his research.
It's also recorded that, on the night of the murders, the killers drove all the way to the gate then reversed the car back and returned on foot. Again, Tarantino depicts that in the movie but with his own twist being that the reason why they reversed was Leo's margarita-fuelled tantrum.
I love when Pitt is in the car and the girl waves at him the second time she saw him and visually asked for a ride and Pitt motioned he wasn’t going that way. The girl does the fake cry and Pitt just shrugs, like too bad and drives away. Brilliant acting and a brilliant scene with no dialogue.
What does that even mean? And no I’m too lazy to @ someone if that’s what you’re asking. But I’m still not sure if I’m the one who suffered a stroke or you are
One thing I really enjoyed about Once Upon A Time...In Hollywood was ironically, Manson wasn't in much of it. I actually thought that was very clever and wise as well, because rather than show the physical presence Manson had over his 'Family' we saw how deeply his followers believed in Manson and would do anything to protect it. Like when Pussycat yelled to Cliff that he was blind, that really showed how much Manson had manipulated his followers and made it more chilling, in my opinion.
walkin dude Mason came up to the driveway of the Polanski/Tate house, thinking the house belonged to Terry Melcher, a former friend of Manson’s. If I’m correct, that was his only appearance in the film.
deg1studios yeah I remember him arriving in a van, but can’t remember what kind of van it was. I do remember him at the door of the Polanski house because he was blocked by Jay Sebring and only shown when he backed away from the door where Sebring couldn’t block him from Sharon.
* 3 people break into your house at night, clearly deranged and holding knifes and guns, talking about murdering you. Mike: "BuT ThEY DidNt dO AnyYThinG"
I agree with you but what Mike meant was we perceive them a certain way because we know what happened in real life and Cliff's response would feel over the top and unfair if it was removed from the Tate murders context (which wouldn't make sense and it doesn't matter).
Gunna Marta if you have 3 people, 2 with knives and 1 with a gun pointed at your face, wouldn’t you assume they were there to, i don’t know, murder you? Since Cliff knew them and knowing what he did at the ranch, I’m sure he assumed they wanted revenge and knowing the type of guy he is, he was reasonable to attack them.
I took the Great Escape flashback as saying Leo's character got the movie and was fired and replaced by McQueen. And that's why he was so keen to get across that he was "never close" to getting it.
That was my interpretation too, that he was embarrassed to have had and lost such a great role. I hadn't even considered that it might have been him imagining if he had gotten the role, and just being bitter that he didn't. Either option seems equally likely to me now.
My friend Mike Gill shot that behind the scenes clip in this episode. He recently passed away and I was prompted to tell everyone how much he loved RLM. He even took me to Boardner’s from LA Wars 💕
I’m very sorry for the loss of your friend, I will say I’m glad he took you to Boardner’s; there’s something so captivating and special about that place. I like to think about all different types of people who walked into that place over the years so much history! I haven’t been in a few years but I can still taste the old fashioned.
They dubbed leo into the great escape because he was lying to Timothy Olyphant about not being close to getting the role when in actuality he had done test screenings for the role
ZuluKasuki I don’t think this movie leaves room for us to interpret what we see as imagined. Joker had a “protagonist” that was quite literally delusional, in the psychological sense. Leo’s might’ve been in the sense of how he viewed his self-worth, but the way it was presented, it seems to be (at least, in my opinion, can’t speak for Tarantino) something that did happen, but he was so bitter/sad about losing that role, he lied about it. Fits the character.
Was literally just about to write this. And the joke is that he delivered the lines so hokey that they replaced him. Not sure why so many people missed this
yeah we have to remember they just saw the movie and saw it once. almost 3 hours long they're going to forget little nuances like that. I'm even amazed they remember as much as they do. I'm sure they write a bunch down but still!
I try to buy as many of their shirts as I can, then I figured I'd start doing Patreon too, they provide me with so many hours of entertainment. I look forward to their stuff as much I used to look forward to a Game of Thrones episode. Started off at $2/month, Upped it last month to $5
It is kind of dim of you to call the Manson cult "the hippies" when this video explains exactly why the Manson-family murders are considered, in hindsight, the end of that era. Like... their "bad plan", as Mike puts it, was an extreme right-wing white-power fantasy. Tarantino's politics here are still "shooting Hitler".
I watched Once Upon a Time in Hollywood yesterday and this whole thing with Shatners Twitter had him on my mind and I thought about that idea. Tarantino directing a movie about the TOS cast with parts of it being them filming Star Trek episodes like Rick Dalton filming his western pilot would be awesome. Probably too much of a retread though.
I think they meant he's the last guy that can draw a general audience with his name only. I would even argue that Jordan Peele has reached that status.
"giving no shits" He's working with A-Listers and a high budget. He hid Weinstein's proprieties for years and was likely in on it himself. If anything it's "manufactured rebellion".
If Cliff Booth didn't actually kill his wife, that could be interpreted as commentary on how easily a rumor can wreck someone's career, especially in Hollywood.
The flashback cut away just at the moment where you're thinking, "He's seriously about to kill this bitch with a harpoon." That got a guilty laugh from me.
When we see Margo Robie's Tate alive at the end, it literally made me cry after a short time of thinking that in some parallel universe, this really did happen. It's a better timeline for sure.
The "he killed his wife" is actually pretty deliberate in showing you what happened. It does leave it ambiguous as to whether or not it was an accident, an impulsive reaction, or pre-meditated, but when his wife gets up and starts berating him, we see a shot from below her waist where Cliff is looking up at her despondently, and he has the harpoon gun across his lap, hand on the trigger, and the harpoon aimed, by chance, in her direction. It creates a lot of tension if you actually notice it. It took me a second, but then I was like "Holy fuck we're about to watch him shoot her with a fucking harpoon!" and then it cuts away so we don't know *exactly* how it happened or how he responded. I loved that.
Reminded me a bit of the scene where William H Macy takes the gun out of the car in Boogie Nights and you suddenly realise it's a tragedy not a comedy.
Noah Heninger He probably killed her, she reminds me of my ex and i totally wanted to dump her in the ocean the second time she slashed my tires and berated me
@@noahheninger I think he killed her, but I don't think it was a premeditated, calculated thing. I think his hand was already on the trigger, she was going off on him, and he was just so sick of it he had a split-second impulse and contracted his finger. He doesn't seem like the guy who would legitimately want to murder someone unless they were a threat to him, and I'm sure he was as shocked and horrified as could be after he shot her.
What is it with these beautiful hollywood actresses staying with these sicko/homicidal men...women need to grow a pair and leave these toxic relationships, or better yet listen to their instincts and NEVER GET INVOLVED.
@@valgehiir lol your nuts leo is a great actor and he was the better actor in this movie than Brad but Cliff was my favorite character in this movie. Every scene he was in I found myself enjoying more. Im gonna go see it again to have a better opinion on it. Something I really gotta see twice
How did this movie at all seem like it "wanted to be about Margot Robbie," she was hardly in it and I never got the feeling Tarantino wanted more scenes with her in it but didnt shoot them for some reason lmao. It was 100% a Rick and Cliff show
@@valgehiir Lmao Leo was the best part of The Departed. A classic movie that won Best Picture. Leo has easily been one of the best most consistent actors of this generation. You are basically fart trolling your minority opinion around
Actually when the girl drives away is not changing history. That did also happened. that's meant to be Linda Kasabian who abandoned them the night of the Tate murders. She ended up key witness for the prosecution.
Scott Pasta She didn’t literally abandon them like in the movie, they took her out of the scene because otherwise she would have been slaughtered by Cliff.
The scene where Leo is giving himself a right bollocking in his trailer for messing up his lines, drinking too much and telling himself to get his shit together is hilarious and too close to home
yes, taking the power away from manson and his followers was the best thing about it. I don't know why people hate that they made them buffoons. it was the best part
@@ToddTheTolerable Treating your enemies like morons eventually leads to them defeating you because you underestimate them. The Romans made a habit of venerating their enemies. Otherwise who's the bigger idiot, the idiot or the idiot who gets defeated by the idiots?
I have a buddy in HS who comes from an Uber rich family. When he first started living on his own he thought that the ac was separate from electric. Must be nice.
@bryon jackson Or a reboot of an 70s/80s franchise that doesn't need a reboot, like fucking Alien, Halloween, Top Gun, Robo Cop, etc. Or even 90s, like Jumanji. or Jurassic Park.
"After every cut I have the entire cast and crew respond to me when I say 'why do we do it', 'because you love feet' in total unison. Now that's teamwork" -Quentin "if her toe is bigger than my middle finger the shot will linger" Tarantino circa 2002
I saw this movie 4 times in theaters and each and every time, we were all in hysterics during the final scene, one guy literally fell out of his seat because he was laughing so hard, everyone was clapping and gasping and cheering, there were loud "Ow's!"after each hit. Even louder than Endgame. Easily the most fun at a movie theater I've ever had. I can't wait until it's out on Blu-ray.
You guys changed me with this episode. Not gonna bother with film festivals and screenplay contests anymore. I'm just gonna go make my movie, for better or for worse. Thanks.
Charge on, brother. Indie film/film festivals are a a joke these days-- they pump out the wackest shit. I feel like ever since Little Miss Sunshine came out that has been the template for shitty indie comedies. It's like the Iron Man of indie films. Sad that young filmmakers are so willing to sell out (or maybe they are just that lame/bad at making movies) before they even get a paycheck. Trying to replicate shitty Hollywood movies on a shoe string budget is peak autism.
As someone who saw this in a packed theater, it was so surreal to hear the reactions around me towards the ending. Everyone was gasping and laughing at the same time.
RedLetterMedia : "It feels like Tarantino is the last real filmmaker. The only one left is Tarantino." Netflix : *releases the trailer for Scorcese's "The Irishman" on the same day*
At this date I dont think Scorcese's track record has held up as well as pre-2000's. He makes some really good films...here and there. He uses quite a bit of CG now adays and digital film, where as they were mentioning that Tarantino still uses actual film cameras and blows his whole budget on sets, props, and actors.
@@Jungy_Mungerson I would need to see it again but it looked like a model to me. Just like how he did it in Kill Bill, just with more detail. And Im not saying that he doesnt use CG at all, but in his films its more grounded and used to push what is already there. Like if he needs to add a billboard in the background. Where as some modern film makers would have just made the entire city street CG.
I looked at Cliff similar to his pit bull dog. In the wrong hands or environment they can be a dangerous, unpredictable animal. Cliff has a certain suggested violent back story and has basically attached himself to Dalton because the lifestyle keeps him busy and out of trouble I think. But his brutality is always there waiting for its need to be.
I kept getting the feeling this movie was about how hippy counter-culture killed Golden Age Hollywood. The Manson family murders were used as a microcosm of that shift. The murders happened less than a month after Easy Rider came out, after all. We're told the story, but we're given a perfect Hollywood ending where the good guys save the day. It feels good in the moment and we all cheer when Leo gets out a flame thrower, but after we've left the theater, the ending starts to feel hollow. It's because we all know that's not what happened. The ending is comforting, but ultimately we know we were lied to. The whole last act is like that: The fact that Brad Pitt killed his wife is swept under the rug and never elaborated on. Leo's alcoholism is turned into a joke as he takes swigs out of the full blender container. And that's what was one of the major problems people started to have with Golden Age Hollywood - it was too shiny and tried to smooth out difficult truths. That's why it became irrelevant. That's not to say there's anything "wrong" with it in some kind of moral sense, it's just worth acknowledging. In the end we still get to see our washed-up cowboy go through the big (even if not pearly) gates and go up to where he's been dreaming of.
movie should have went the way of inglorious basterds. Hitler still killed though in a different way by the way of competence by someone else. Sharon tate and gang should have had the same fate as in real life while the stuntman was somehow written to wipe out span ranch...
I saw the notification and exploded with joy. This show was the only light in my life. However, once I saw that you guys switched chairs, I cannot watch this series anymore. Year after year of supporting you guys, I did not think I would be insulted this much.
@@MegaZeta Undermined myself with an emoji? Oh yes of course, emoji's are so powerful they undermine everything, all hail the gods of the mighty emoji's may they rule over us! I wasn't being the slightest bit sarcastic of course.
I rather be murdered by the Manson Clan than watch another Disney movie. After Endgame, I’m completely done with them. They’re so boring and predictable. i feel like all recent Marvel movies are spoiled by just their movie titles, thats how predictable they are. Shieeet, Captain America Winter Soldier basically contains a real spoiler in the title for anyone who read the comics 🙄
I started watching this less than an hour after it was posted, then stopped it after 5 minutes. Went and saw the movie tonight and came home to finish this. I'm so glad I did.
This movie alone proves Tarantino is a true master of cinema and absolutely loves all aspects of it. I felt growing up that i was the only kid who loved a wide scope of cinema. Having a father who took me to see such films as Gone In 60 Seconds “1974”,The Deep,Close Encounters Of The Third Kind,The Wild Geese and A Bridge Too Far,as well as Star Wars,Superman,ET and Raiders Of The Lost Ark and at home we’d watch Citizen Kane,The Third Man and The Wizard Of Oz i was given an education in cinema…but then we got a VHS player and after that my world opened up to everything and anything i could get my hands on..just like Tarantino. I tried my hardest to introduce my friends to all kinds of movies but they weren’t interested at all
Just to correct Jay on one thing... Sharon Tate was murdered on August 9th, 1969. The murders did not take place in October as he suggested. Also, Tarantino originally wanted to open the film on the 9th of August (not in October) and it was Debra Tate, Sharon’s sister who rejected the release date so Tarantino moved it two weeks earlier to July 26th.
@Stellvia Heonheim So, A Fistful of Dollars, For a few Dollars more, The Good, The Bad and The Ugly and Once upon a time in the West (just to name the Leone ones) aren't good movies!? Ok, you fuck off, bitch!
@Stellvia Heonheim The original Django was good, much better than those hacks sack of crap: Duck You sucker, My name is nobody, and Once Upon a time in the West. What a long boring waste of my time all those movies turned out to be.
"Wontcha wontcha wontcha bring a little water! Bring a little wine! Bring a little lovin'! I'll be fine!" *Fave "Once Upon" scenes (aside from the obvious ending scene)... - All of Cliff's GTA 5 "L.A.1969 Expansion DLC" driving interludes with KHJ L.A. radio - Rick's "Lancer" TV pilot shooting scenes - Sharon Tate hanging out in Westwood Village - Cliff's Green Hornet shoot flashback - Rick & Cliff doing TV audio commentary for his "F.B.I." show appearance
If Tarantino made his final movie a classic faithful star trek film that was a masterpiece I think Mike would crumble to dust after watching it, his life fulfilled his one true love redeemed.
That journalist only ask that question cause Margot Robbie is a woman and that she has the least amount of lines, if leo or brad are the ones in that position no one will even give a shit
Out of all the directors who could be called out for treating their female characters badly, it's bizarre that Tarantino was the one that journalist picked. Dude has done some great movies starring leading ladies (Kill Bill, Jackie Brown) and written some amazing and varied female characters (The Bride, Shoshanna, Mia Wallace, Six Horse Judy, etc). He's hardly the guy to pick on for such topics!
I just realized this is the only episode of all HITB I didn’t watch as I really wanted to watch the movie first. It’s like finding a Christmas gift you forgot to open four years later.
What I really want to know is how they got that one Manson girl to move so unnaturally like a muppet. It was both kind of funny and legit unnerving, and if that was actually just the actress, it definitively deserves props.
This movie was exhilarating. Jay is right, it's like a warm blanket. I left the theater on cloud 9, I was so happy. I've never laughed harder at graphic violence or feel so good about bad people having bad things happen to them. Great job on the episode. Nailed it.
Wouldn't it be funny if the whole reason Tarantino wrote the ending like that was so Sharron Tate's family wouldn't be mad at him for showing a close-up of her feet in that theater scene?
As someone who loves Tarantino movies, I found Once Upon a Time in Hollywood to be pretty boring. Great on a technical level, but as a story, it feels largely pointless and lacks tension meandering from scene to scene without much connective tissue. You could remove almost any scene and nothing would really change.
That was my initial reaction the first two times I saw it. The third time I decided to walk in late around the Bruce Lee scene. I left the theatre wishing I had just watched the whole thing again. You just gotta let the characters cook a bit
Trivia note: Manson was sentenced to prison not for these crimes, but for the murder of a stuntman who had visited Spahn ranch. It heightens the danger Cliff was in at the ranch when you realize that....
