This makes me want to upscale my own design of a brunswick. Maybe even DIY a whole lane. I really want to. Better than spending 97 - 150k on a company to do it.
Am I the only one that wants to get pushed by the bar that comes down on the pin deck to remove any remaining pins.I just wanna get pushed back there without dying like u would on a real machine
Nice to see a man who can use his mind and hands to create such a machine. Can you comment on the relative strengths of the various distributor designs as seen in the GS-X, A2, AMF, and Furukawa, etc., pinsetters?
The AMF 82-70 is by far the best design, other than mine of course, LOL. The 82-70 is very simple compared to all the other machines. I have worked on both A2's and 82-70's so I can speak from experience. While the GSX looks simple, it has a lot more parts than a 82-70. It does however have the ability to do things the AMF distributor doesn't though. As for the Furukawa's, they look like nightmares from a mechanical standpoint. VERY complicated. The Odin Z-1B also look like nightmares. I can see where that chain pin lift system could easily become a maintenance headache.
Looks amazing. The only thing i would fix (if possible) is putting some sort of rubber on the edge of the pin wheel that the pin spins on to take the line off of the middle of the pins
almost 4years in the making. love all the changes you have done to make sure you got it right. are you going to make a list of everything used. keep being awesome
If I get into selling these, there will be a complete parts list, along with assembly drawings. I have quite a few drawings now but not the complete set. Some parts will be reverse engineered.
Thanks. In case your inetrested, I will be starting to custom build lanes in the near future. Look for ballbowler.com to go active in the next 2-4 months.
I am planning on selling complete lanes just FYI. They will be sold on my site ballbowler.com. The site is not active yet. I had hoped to have it up by now but am still doing some fine tuning of the machine. Hoping to have everything ready in next 2-4 weeks.
Recommendation use plastic plates instead of metal ones on the cross conveyer. The fist model of the AMF 82-70A used a metal grid the pins fell onto until ten pins were in the pin bin and they changed it to the two angled I call them wings because I never worked on the 82-70 only the 82-95. The metal grate the pins fell onto once the tenth pin fell one the bin all ten pins dropped onto the pin spotting cups. They had to change the design because the original all metal design tore up the pins something fierce all sorts of chips taken out of the covering of the pins. So hy going to plastic flaps to carry the pins up the cross conveyer you drastically reduce the possibility of pin damage. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vEqhu0Qt3DA.html I included the link to the AMF 82-70A Pinsetter so you can see the different way it works. From the 82-70B model to the present AMF machine they all load the pins in the bin the same way 1-3-2-4-7-8-5-6-10-9 the 9 is the last pin and the head of the pin contacts a plate which activates a microswitch to tell the controller there are ten pins ready to set. As a Brunswick mechanic that's the only update I can see. Nice job there sir.
Actually working out the details on that. Not gonna be cheap though. I plan to add scoring in the future too. Tied up on some other projects for a while though, so can't get to it at the moment.
this lane looks very awesome. huge fan!. especially since it is a replica of a Brunswick A2. a guy that I work with and my self are wanting to try to build one similar but need a place to get started. what type of material did you use to build the frame ?
Its T slot tubing. There are a number of brands. They are80-20, tslots and faztek. Best place to get is off ebay if you have some patience. You can usually pick up surplus or used stuff. I use the 1" size. Tnutz is the best place to get the inserts that hold everything together. You local screw supplier is best for the screws.
I'm using 1/8" thick styrene for kick backs. It seems to be holding up pretty well. You can get this at most large plastics suppliers. It is very easy to cut and work with.
Impressive. Very nice job. I enjoy all types of bowling but being from the Boston area love candlepin. I wonder if your machine could be converted to candlepin. AMF had a candlepin machine similar to the tenpin version. BTW who is the idiot that gave this a thumbs down? Seriously?
Improved ball return possibility, A shorter version of the cross conveyer for balls instead of pins big advantage it will handle multiple balls mounted at an incline wired if you use a jack shaft to power it off the pinwheel motor you reduce one motor and added wiring. Two paddles to lift the ball would be sufficient 180 degrees out from each other. Rack ball lift paddle opens the ball door on the way down to let the ball into the pickup position. Just playing devils advocate. Jim
Yes, that was how it was designed to work. However, I have redesigned the sweep mechanism and the sweep board does not need to slide any longer. Those slots are simply left over from the original design. The sweep now functions much the same way a rake on a Brunswick machine functions if it comes down on a pin.
Thanks for the kind words. I would like to say though that while it looks like an A2, it operates much differently. I tried to keep it as much an original design as possible.
Are you able to make a video on them? I'm currently discussing with him how I should do to get them to Sweden where I live. I want to know what the quality is like. :)
They look fine. Labels are not as crisp as the Linds but from 30' away, it won't be an issue. Just happy to have new pins. Hopefully he keeps these in stock for the future. getting them to Sweden could be a little pricey.
I do plan to manufacture these for purchase. I am hoping to have a website active in the next 3-4 months as I am still fine tuning the pinsetter and not quite ready to sell them yet. I will make a post when I have the website active. As for cost, there are many variables and I can not really answer that question at the moment.
The price has not been fully determined yet. I am estimating they will be in the 25K to 30k range though. I am currently adding a diagnostics interface that will help owners trouble shoot the machine during breakdowns. Additionally, automatic scoring is also being developed. I am hoping to have ballbowler.com active in the next 6-8 weeks. You will be able to contact me through there to inquire about purchasing.
I purchased the lane second hand so I was able to complete the prototype. On the custom built models, brand new synthetic bowling lane will be included as part of the purchase. Length can be customized between 20' to 30' from "foul line" to center of head pin based on how much room someone has to put the lane in.
