Love seeing how this has evolved. It went from a mini Brunswick A2 to an AMF 82-70 type design now to a design that combines the revolving turret of the A2 with pin lift of the newer GSX machine. Combining the pin and ball lift was cool. Cuts down on parts and complexity.
Oh yes, that looks much better! I really like how smooth everything seems to be. The only thing that I can think of that could further speed it up cycling wise, is to move the deck shutes back on the way up instead of when the table has reached the top. This could dump the pins way faster. :)
That is just awesome! Love the improvements. I am hoping to be able to buy one someday. I still plan on coming out to see it. I will get in contact with you when I am ready to come out. Great work!!!
I love this scoring system and it’s even similar to the AMF Accuscore XL (BOSS) Scoring but more advance than the actual BOSS Scoring. I love this pinsetter much smoother and runs faster. Edit: Great Video !
This machine is absolutely incredible! I'm a certified A2 mechanic, it's very interesting seeing how this machine was inspired by A2s. Being able to move away from everything being belt-driven to lots of smaller motors controlled by a computer seems like a great solution, it allows for so much more control and probably has a lot less wear on the parts. I really like the combined elevator, it seems very reliable; though it does concern me a bit that ball returns are so closely tied to pin returns. I could see a situation where a ball didn't return because the elevator system paused due to the 5-pin not being ready to load. Probably not nearly as much of a concern on a machine that clearly isn't meant for tournament play, but it stuck out to me a bit. That aside, this whole machine is incredible, and I'm amazed at the engineering that went into it!
Thanks for the kind words. As for the possibility of the ball returning slow on occasion, I told the 2 Brunswick machanics that are working on these machines they are much faster than what they're used to. After a short period of constanatly watching balls run through the machine, they understand what I meant. I'll see if I can't post a video soon.
@@coasterp2199 I was very impressed with this. I have worked on Brunswick A/a2 pinsetters and gs series machines. I love how they are both represented here. There elevator really impressed me(takes care of pins stuck in ball door like gs).
Been watching you for the last couple of years. I have a strong interest for mini bowling inside the home. I pray eventually i'll have enough cash to afford this. The only other company im aware of sales an arcade machine called the Roller Ball. Those machines go for 35,000 and up and only operate with string pin setters. You have Ball Bowler currently going for 22,000. Add tax and it is 24,000. I hope you make good money . I hope you keep this price range because ill be looking towards you when the time comes. Keeping it in a more affordable price range or at the least closer to one. Thank you for all your hard work. I truly appreciate it . I hope your business starts booming .
Once again, bravo, great work. More videos, please! I'd love to see the pins leave the lift and get oriented (orientated?) as well as see how the pins are aligned in the lift.
What a beautiful piece of engineering! I wish I had the space, and the money. But I have been spreading the word-of-mouth (and of Facebook) on the Ball Bowler, so ya never know. Maybe one or two of my wealthier friends will put in an order!
Great update! If pins are worn down, will they still re-align well on the belt? You covered it briefly but how does it ensure that the pins are deposited on the belt facing the right direction every time?
Sweeeeet! Would it be possible to have computer control the turret to bypass openings and only drop selected pins for spare shooting? Run the machine with only 10-12 pins to keep from getting backed up since you would only be setting a few pins at a time. As it is now though, I know I would be spending too much time playing this thing all day!
Yes it is possible to configure the machine to only set certain pins. It would be a custom upgrade and add quite a bit of cost to the machine. If someone wants it though, it can be done.
This is fantastic stuff! .. It is important for the bowling industry to develop a better, more efficient way of pin setting. String pins are not going to save the bowling industry (they suck). In fact, I think string pins are ultimately going to hurt the bowing industry. It is paramount that we develop much more efficient and simplified free fall pin setting machines that require much less maintenance and energy to operate. I look at current pin setter designs and just shake my head at the incredible complexity. Lots of room for simplification and improvements. I have my own idea of potentially using electro magnets, but that would require a modification to pin manufacturing. However, my electro magnet idea would remote about 80% of the moving parts of a current design.
We are building to order. As for the ball return, depending on what a buyer wants, we can have a ball return for each lane or a shared ball return in the middle. The entire system is very modular and allows for customizing very easily.
Rest in piece to the ball auger! I loved that design but using the elevator does save on parts. I thought I caught a glimpse of it, but are you using some time of ball kicker built into the elevator frame to eject the balls but not the pins? On the Sherman duckpin machine it's a very similar design except our pin and ball kickers are spring loaded to more accurately decide what is pin and what is ball (since the balls are only .25 of an inch larger in diameter)
It was a little tricky to get it all working due to the size difference between the ball and pins. Having the ball and pins closer in size would have actually made things a lot easier.
Are 2 balls able to fit onto an elevator shovel? Or if there is 1 ball and 1 pin does it eject both? Also what happens if pins get caught in the elevator or a shovel gets caught does it have anyway to detect a jam
@@nicholaslloyd5623 Two balls could fit on a lifter (shovel as you called it). A ball and a pin will not fit together. If there is a jam, the drive system is designed so that the drive belt simply slips on the drive motor pulley. I do not have a way to detect if there is a lift jam. It would show up as no pins being spotted eventually.
I love all your improvements except for the ball return. Would be a problem if there were a few "full deck" circumstances and the lift keeps shutting off.
@@riverdealer Jan is correct about 22 pins being run. On occasion the lift does shut off for a couple of seconds. It has not impacted operation though, as typically the ball is back before the sweep goes back up on first ball, even if the lift did stop for a couple of seconds during the cycle.
Shut up and take my money (if i had it lol). This is awesome. The engineering is very nicely done. Do you happen to have a pricing catalog of the accessories and equipment?
We can customize them to meet length available. The minimum area you would need is 20 feet long. Our current price is $24,900, plus shipping and installation. Please contact me at ballbowlerinfo@gmail.com if you would like more information.
Our current list price is $22,900, plus shipping and installation. If you would like me to give you a formal quote, please contact me through the contact page on our website: www.minibowlinglanes.com. Thanks, Phil
We use 22 pins. I've run it with 20 and it's still very fast but every now and then a pin sits in the middle of the disk in the pit. With 22, it's never an issue if this does happen.
Our standard lane is 28.5 feet from "foul line" to rear of the pinsetter. While we recommend a length of 35 feet to put a standard size lane in, we can also easily customize lanes to fit in areas as short as 20 feet. We are the manufacturer. Each lane is custom built to meet the buyers requirements. Our current price for a standard, base model lane is $24,900. You cab find more information on our website: www.minibowlinglanes.com or contact us a ballbowlerinfo@gmail.com.
@@coasterp2199 ok i don't have that much but i do appreciate the response back. I hope in the future i will be able to get one. I used to bowl but it got to expensive for me. So i still want to bowl when i seen ur lane. I was like that would be awesome to get and have but i will have to build up my money for one.
Our current list price is $22,900 for the whole lane. Shipping and installation are extra. You can find all the information on our website www.minibowlinglanes.com
My machine can easily be scaled up. The problem is too many people buying bowling lanes today know very little about bowling. They think you install the lanes and print money. Even the string machines need maintenance.
So basically years ago you thought of a mini pinsetter and then decided you actually were going to produce one? Once every change/update is done and the pinsetter is 100% completed you should do a video showing every update starting from scratch
The design is 100% complete as you see it. I do not plan on making any other changes. As for showing all the updates, the videos posted previously do show most of what took place. There have been several sweep revisions for example.
@@christopherrodmell1694 Yes. I planned to build a half size bowling lane and a pinsetter to go with it. Once people started seeing videos and commenting, I decided to design it for sale, which is why it took so long to complete it.
Impressive.....I would like to find a building that houses at least 10 units. I live in a small town called Cottonwood, Arizona, and there's absolutely nothing for teenagers to do. I also think that this would be great for the elderly and the young kids, as there is a ten pin bowling alley about 20 minutes away, but the balls are heavy. This would be ideal for a lot of groups. Please contact me. Stephen Garner.
Steve, I sent you a message. If for some reason you didn't get it, please go to our website and contact me through there: www.minibowlinglanes.com Thanks, Phil Kaiser.
@@elijahrosado3816 It's actually harder to make something work in miniature. Most people don't realize that. You have half the tolerance you have on a full size pinsetter. our machine is actually much more precise than a full size machine.
@@lindamartin7145 I tried to report, but YT won't let me without claiming it's mine, so I refused to continue. Apparently, YT won't take it down, and that sucks!
