Hammer And Nail | Limbus Company Part 11 - Foreman Plays Stuff 

The real humanity was the ones we gripped along the way discord.gg/foremanplaysstuff

You know what's tragic about Sinclair's backstory? There's no guarantee that his parents would disapprove of him not wanting prosthetics, if Sinclair just explained his anxieties to his parents they might've understood and consoled him, of course they could've reacted negatively but there's no guarantee.

There's something morbidly hilarious about Vergilius' choice of food for the end of this Canto. The Sinners went through fighting a group of zealots who would impale people and his first thought was to buy them chicken kebabs.

Kromer got staggered on her first turn because Sinclair had that specific Identity, there's easter eggs if you wear certain identities against certain bosses which change small things

You bringing NCorp Sinclair to Kromer made her instantly stagger

I like how you read into the ID's moveset (such as Heathcliff lacking the typical ferocity he's known for in his N.Corp form) because a lot of the time it reflects in their kit as well. N.Heath has the least interactions with Fanatic out of the whole N.Corp team (can't give it to himself, can't give it to other people, doesn't even get an upgraded version of it like N.Don does through her passive), and at Uptie 4 his passive gives him +1 Coin Power but ONLY if he's in a team that's mostly made up of N.Corp members, implying he'll only really try under close supervision from his superiors.

I remember struggling so much with Kromer lmao, didn't even properly kill her I just managed to survive until the cutscene check and then I died. the defeat screen showed up, but the cutscene with Demian played, so I really experienced the story as it was written LMAO

1:52:56 Foreman did not realise this but he narrowly avoided a bullet by corroding luckily. You can see Sinclair had "Gaze" that turn which made him stagger as part of the boss fight. However, due to corroding him like the chad Sinclair is, he bypassed the stagger and handed it back to her.

Essentially, Sinclair's backstory is a dating sim where he fails at every charisma check imaginable and ended up getting the Kromer ending as a result. Also, damn boss fight theme rocks for this one. Too bad NClair is busted that it cut it short. EDIT: Bruh, Meursalt still has the same facial expression in the credits HAHAHAHA

I remember my biggest achievement in this game was fighting pre nerf Kromer. I swear spamming Muersaults chain of others for the power drain felt like it was MANDATORY. It was really an experience to behold having to fight Kromer with my knees on the floor, so the ending scene really hit hard. Kromer faust didnt exist backthen too, especially Nclair, i believe the latest ID then was Guido Meursault. Anyway, Ideal is near.

If I remember correctly N. Corp's singularity is "experience", like the Exp tickets that level up the sinners, and in some of the N. Corp IDs stories they mentioned "canned experiences". That and a whole bunch of nails... And hammers... I think.

The joyful glee of watching Kroomer Faust's animations is my same reaction to it too. Something about Faust throwing hands and hearing metal is so satisfying.

I think an important thing to establish is that Nagel und Hammer are a *part* of N Corp, a branch of that company, but not the company itself - Hermann's group is also from N Corp but as far as we can tell, they are completely unaffiliated with Kromer's group other then being apart of the same Corporation overall. Also yes the N&H ID's are goddamn amazing thematically. They have hella drip. Edit: Ok I might be completely off about Nagel und Hammer being only a part of N Corp. I still currently think this is the case but if I am wrong someone please correct me properly

Foreman becoming a Nail and Hammer fan just because looks is very funny

A little tip for The One Who Shall Grip Sinclair: if his sanity becomes too high you could use EGO to quickly lower it

I wouldn't worry about having found "the best" identities in the game. The entire PM team has been consistently getting better and better with each new ID and EGO they make. I can't wait to see the spectacles they will make a couple years from now.

1:54:26, for the record Kromer was basically the hardest fight in the game when she came out, and people struggled a LOT with her, she also got nerfed as a result

Something to note is that Everything There is very likely an aberration of Nothing There

Demian's role in the story really falls into place if you have read the novel, but it's expected that he's... very confusing indeed. His nameplate on the dialogue is actually different from Hermann's, iirc she does have the blue, but the actual letters are red. Anyhow we did see them at the end of the limbus trailer (Hermann in a red-ish background with the other members of her group we see in canto 1, and Demian right after, blue background with a group of unknowng characters?). Genuinely have no idea though, he's still really mysterious as far as limbus story goes. ALSO i really recommend re reading the Little Prince's abno logs in relation to him, there are mentions of a "birthmark" on the forehead, as demian is based on not only Demian (19191) but also the little prince as he directly quotes the book a handful of times! + the scarf design element) that aside... Demian is a very good read. It made my opinion on Sinclair shift around a lot and you really see his insane potential, this is merely a guess but I'd think he's one of the characters which will see the most development in limbus and god.i am excited for it. Lastly this is a personal speculation buuuut. I really enjoy the theory that the blue gem that Demian wears in his second design is supposed to be an Abraxas stone, these are really antique amulets in reference to the gnostic god abraxas which is a core symbol in Sinclair's book, often depicted as a humanoid with a bird head and snake legs, its name actually reads as 365 in greek numerals and it represents the coexistence of the bad and the good, "world of light/world of evil". this ties back to the color in Sinclair's official art being split down the middle... There's a lot to dig through anyways, but you kind of have to experience the book yourself.perhaps.heh. break the shell on your own, if i dare say so [im taken out back and shot

i'm really glad that I beat chapter 3 not so long after release, before many broken id's like Nclair were out. I remember Kromer being a really tough boss and that made defeating her a lot more emotional and gratifying

It is time to see how much Foreman gets Gripped™

Your enthusiasm for Limbus is so refreshing! I hope it holds your interest for a long while!

not gonna lie when they saw the abnormality I had a suspicion it was something of Censored behind the air vent

BTW the scene with Sinclair and Kromer in the "possible future" was most likely the mirror world we get the N corp sinclair from. Faust says in the dialogue for the uptie. In it she says that she hopes a version of herself will look at what she has turned sinclair into and envy what she accomplished. And she also wonders what that sinclair will have to suffer through because of it

As far as we know (I think) Demian is the most mysterious character in Limbus Company. He can be anything, from colour to GOD.

One thing that is scary of how consistent it is that sinclair has incredible talent for violence. Becoming a high rank on n corp a director of section 4 of the Cinc office, and a extremely talented slayer for blade lineage. Regardless of the mirror Sinclair is a scary person in how much ease he kills.

W corp is the flashiest team, pequod is probably the most brutal and seven is probably my favourite team even though some of them are worse than other characters when inflicting rupture

28:34 I can assure you Foreman- N Corp is awesome and stylistically for this dungeon they’re wonderful, but there’s plenty more interesting narratives to be said through the later identities and stories. I just think the stars aligned for Canto III for you LMAO. And PM could focus on N Corp more as a whole because there still wasn’t a ton of identities when III was new

some enemies have so many passives that you need to click and drag through the list of passives to see them all

The inquisitors are a branch of N-corp, i dont think the actual corporation is filled with nearly as many bloodthirsty inquisitord

Fun thing you may or may not have noticed: Sinclair's Skill 3 has a slightly different voiceline for the last hit depending on whether or not he hits all tails. And finally, veering off into fan theories: People have noticed that N-Faust's outfit is a *mirror* of Kromer's -- it's flipped left-to-right (This is the case in artwork as well, so it's not just a case of their sprites facing different directions). It *could* just be a case of Faust and Kromer having different dominant hands, but some people have theorized that Kromer was deliberately trying to imitate the version of herself she saw in the mirror, but since it was a *mirror*, what she saw was flipped. Some have taken it even further and proposed that -- given the line Faust has in N-Sinclair's uptie where she muses on whether someone is looking at her from another universe -- the person Kromer saw in the Mirror wasn't actually herself, but *Faust*. While I don't set much stock in that, Kromer just being an imitation of N-Faust would explain the "N-Faust is cooler" thing lol. I am told that whatever's going on with Demian makes more sense if you've read the novel Sinclair is from, but I haven't actually read it myself so I don't know anything more than that (Or how true that is).

remember sonya talked about some kind of mark that rodya does not posses but he could sense in some other sinners.

New ID Reviews, written several hours after the video was posted because I got busy :3 W.Corp L3 Cleanup Agent Ryoshu: An absurdly powerful Charge ID. While her S1 is a bit pathetic, her S2 and S3 are amazing. Problem is that she requires Uptie 4 to really reach her max potential, but when she's at it, I'd say she's one of the most powerful IDs in the game period. At a high Charge Count total, her S2 rolls above 20, which is... absolutely ridiculous, to say the least. At 15+ Charge, her S3 D.D.E.D.R rolls a 31 and deals a ridiculous amount of damage. An extremely potent ID, and absolutely one of Ryoshu's best, if not the absolute best. The One Who Grips Faust: A very interesting and useful ID. One of Fausts most useful ones, too. She pairs exceptionally well on an N.Corp team, and her Paralysis-inflicting nature as well as ability to toss the "Gaze" status effect means that she is practically required to get the most out of the team. She's no slouch on her own either, having some respectable (if a bit low) clashing potential. There really isn't much to say about her, except that she's... really well-rounded? Even outside of an N.Corp team, she's useable just about everywhere. (Side note that doesn't pretain to the review, but I became a whale because One Who Grips Faust never showed up in my pulls.... 50~ USD was spent that day.)

Nclair vs Kromer introduces a fun mechanic that Limbus has used twice so far (Nclair and the current Ishmael skin) where using certain IDs in a Canto's final boss does something. For this fight, she opens staggered which can help. Kromer also used to be a lot worse because she used to have a passive that healed her for something like 20% of her max HP if she was burning or bleeding. On release, the passive didn't work. Then it did work and, because most of the best IDs on release had some kind of bleed on them, she became near unbeatable. The passive still exists today however it's tied to the Mark gift which weakens it, disabling it entirely if you collect three.

now that canto 3 is over, I can finally say this are thou prepared.... for chimken?

Two Things 1) Betting Damien is a Beholder of B-Corp. From what we see of a Beholder in Ruina, spacial manipulation is their gig, and if their name is any indication then they should be rather adept at seeing alot of things. If the severance is to be taken as tearing space and dissolving the upper body via molecular teleportation, the floating being using space to mess with gravitational pull, the silence being spacial manipulation to not actually touch the ground with any force that would produce sound, and the seeming omniscience being the collective observations of the city which likely transcend dimensions and time which Beholders may or may not have, it checks out. Also the last Beholder was a blue hologram, and he is wearing a blue scarf. 2) The After Team could've saved Effie that had been impaled, due to his death being expected to take two days. However, if they had spared Effie, then Dante would've been killed because N Corp would still have had leverage over Saude.

An absolutely peak episode. I genuinely didn't expect foreman to get a practically full N corp team and somehow didn't expect him to get that interaction between N corp Sinclair and Kromer. Although, Mili music is the cherry on top of project moon games so i hope no copyrights, but overall a satisfying ending especially after the technical difficulties. Can't wait to see the new tierlist as well. 👍

Yeah so W Ryoshu is arguably one of the best units in the game, especially if you invest for the costly uptie 4. I’d argue she’s even better than N clair since she doesn’t have to fath around with sanity.

"How the fuck will they top this in Canto IV" He doesn't know

And now we’ve seen Sinclair’s backstory it’s safe to say he’s simply the Protagonist of a Visual Novel and got the Neutral/Bad Route for the Yandere. Should have went for the Yaoi Route my boy.

... Remember when kromer was a complete wall?

The sweet spot with Sinclair is about -20/25 sp. It allows for more consistent tails while being still pretty far from corrosion

Also remember with Gregor dungeon, the bought reflects how they feel, not how things exactly happened, so its dubious if Sinclair family really looked like that after their change.

Friendly reminder that you can scroll down in the enemies' passives menu(^_-)

meursaults perfectly fine as a W corp member, he does the job 👍

I can't believe he soloed a fight that I struggled so fucking much Sinclair is truly one of the sinners of all time

You missed some enemies passives since if an enemy has more than 2, you have to scroll to see them, so that's something to look out for in the future

I like how you worried the coolness factor was only downhill from Nclair less than week from captain ishmael

N corp's singularity might be used for their so called "canned experience" where they extract different experiences and sell them or use them for example as mentioned in Leviathan N corp has "suicide booths" where people may pay to experience how commiting suicide and dying feels without really dying ofcourse, N corp might also be behind the exp tickets that are used on id's

Starting with 3.5, each canto and side story has a trailer. Side story trailers in particular are extremely stylized. Might be good react material. Expect snippets of cutscene art and gameplay out of context, and previews of dispensary-only IDs and EGO for side stories, and dispensary-only (previous season pass) EGO for canto trailers.

i honestly find it fun when you click one after another its something fresh and diffrnet from how i and many people play :D i also like Sang Ij, Fishmael, Fast and Gorgal!

I recommend looking back at the last interaction the sinners had with Sonya

Yo, you gotta play Hells Chicken in Limbus Company that you saw. It's an unexpected thing you'll ever witness, and worth the play.

23:26 it is math time once again so the value is 30 base, 3 coins each with power -12 with a threshhold of 9 which means rolling 2 coins is 8 and not passing so you gotta either roll one coin or 0 p=0.76 is the probability to flip heads, q=0.24 is to flip tails probability of winning the clash is then q×q×q+3p×q×q=0.145152 14% until we math again

Can't wait for you to play Hells Chicken and to see an updated tierlist next episode! Also seeing you beat Kromer so quickly was so weird I remember struggling so hard I thought I wouldn't be able to access the rest of the game because I couldn't beat her (my only built team was mostly burn which is....not good against Kromer).

CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG GET HAMMERED GET HAMMERED GET HAMMERED GET HAMMERED

i never thought id see foreman turn to the dark side.

You can scroll the passive list. Enemies can have more than 2 passives

Seeing you defeat kromer so easily Im just shocked to be honest

While it's a lot of fun to solo Kromer here, you might wanna know how her fight work soon cause... well, you might find it out soon

Doing one by one pulls to build hype -> meh. But doing it to annoy people, thats respectable.

I really love the end of canto wrap up on the bus just seeing the sinners chilling is always great.

You are wrong Forman, the fault of this whole endeavour wasn't Kromer, but the fault lies within Ishmael.

Congrats on Solo-ing Kromer Manager Esquire! There's actually a fairly large Solo-ing community in the Limbus fandom, and almost every stage and boss has been beaten solo, even Mirror Dungeons, and it's genuinely quite impressive to watch. Canto 3's story is fantastic, and they just get better and better with every Canto, i am SO excited to watch you go through Canto 4. And speaking of thirsting for Kromer, you have absolutely no idea how far it went, Kromerposting was so prevalent back in the day that multiple containment servers had to be set up in the PM fan discord, and they even went to war with the Sinclair and Outis fans one point, it was a wild and hilarious time and is still a pretty prevalent meme in the community to this day XD And now, here i go gushing about PM lore again: "The Mark" aka The Mark of Cain is a concept used in Sinclair's book of origin "Demian" by Hermann Hesse, people with The Mark are basically destined protagonist who have such an incredibly powerful innate influence that they can control and command people with words and gestures alone, and have a kind of Truesight which is most likely why Demian can hear Dante (There's also speculation that since Sonya has The Mark as well he actually DID hear Dante during Canto 2 and just pretended not to), all in all The Mark is an incredibly interesting concept that I'm happy is a central plot point in this game. Also if you remember, Sonya said that MULTIPLE of our sinners have The Mark, very excited to see who else carries it in the future. Meti Not The Bad Guy has an amazing story and character analysis of Canto 3, Kromer, and the book Demian itself which is an incredible watch, especially because it gives a massive amount of context for things in Canto 3 even i didn't pick up on and shows just how much love and care PM put into adapting these books into the story of Limbus Company, though i don't recommend you watch it immediately because it has a mild Spoilers for Canto 4(And Supernatural i guess) in it, once you've finished Canto 4 though I'd 100% recommend giving it a watch. Good day Manager, i hope my PM lore-dump at least somewhat interesting.

The fault lies with kromer!

>last episode Nclair >this episode Wyoshu Hey there, it's 2 out of... 4? 5? on the generally accepted as SSS tier list. She's really, really, really strong. Stupid strong, the queen of DPS with a skill 2 that rivals most skill 3s. Worth every resource you invest in her, but does kinda want Uptie 4 to pop off hard, so be warned on that. Your average rolls have felt somewhat unlucky, a lot of dupes and not many 000s, but BOY the 000s you're getting rule. Shame Cinqlair and Nclair share the slot, since they're both very much S tier.

So, little a fun fact about this canto, the game was supposed to come in december, so this canto was going to be in christmas or very near it, but it got delayed a to february so they added the little bits of "christmas nowhere near" to some dialogues (at least that's what I read, someone correct me if that was disproven at some point)

Idk Foreman, that gaping mouth on Corroded Kromer's lower end could get it, just sayin... Anways, W Ryoshu is pretty damn nice, tho I'll let others talk about her. W Corp Meursault gets a decent enough boost at UT4, but it's not all that worth it, since he has a better 000 Charge ID. N Heath at UT4 tho, if you're gonna be using this N Corp team more often could be a good shout. His passive at UT4 gives him a pretty good boost in power, especially for his Skill 3 with all its coins. As for lore questions. Hermann and her group (which are also a part of N Corp, but separate from N&H) use Red names, Demian uses Blue. As for N Corp's singularity, i'm pretty sure but not certain that it's the "Canned Experiences™". In N Heath's Uptie story, I think it's more implied that the Kleinhammer recruits are brainwashed with Propaganda and Canned Experiences to make them more "Fanatical" duing Purging. Rodion being a Mittelhammer could probably tie in to her hating the rich, with the rich being wealthy enough to afford prosthetics easily. Don being a Grosshammer kinda ties in to her track record of being very high-up in terms of position in her IDs (she's a Shi Director. She's also a Director of another Association Section in another ID. She's a L3 Clean-up Agent for W Corp. etc.) she's generally a go-getter, a hard worker. Anways, from Palworld to Limbus, you truly put a lot of effort huh? Highly commendable I say~ The mines welcome everyone, and I bet the Hard mines can't wait to welcome fresh meat as well~

2:23:30 Heathcliff in the corner never fails to amuse me despite the heavy story, lmao

Prime example of ids that came out after the canto making the final boss hella anticlimactic. Kromer used to be hard…

Also, just wait 'till you see how cool the full Warp team is.

28:43 *Laugh in peqoud identity*

W ryoshu hits like a truck. That'ns a good'n.

Nagel und Hammer are a part of N Corp by the way, N Corp is not just inquisitors with nails and hammers.

I was going to say, you could have probably used a Support N Meursault and kept him benched for his passive if you wanted to see the full team in action.

Nail and hammer

To counter you point of annoyance I have the speed up button, in all honesty tho, this chapter was good, and I can’t wait for canto 3.5.

you know that you can see more than 2 passives if you scroll down on an enemies passive list?

Not knowing about KROMUSSY? :)

*vigorous hammering noises*

You say you build hype.. I say skip 10s to skip to result

W.Corp(+ R.Corp) team, aka Charge team, outside of Mirror Dungeon, is THE strogest team in the game. The downside is that it requires uptie 4 for most of it's units(for example W.Faust/Meursault are absolute trash without uptie 4). Charge team is VERY expensive.

Hey. Do you want like, free healing and SP gain? Well, there's an ego in the dispenser called "Fluid Sac" which is MORE than a little busted. Not that you need it, but if you buy Faust's version, it can pretty much carry you through any difficulty spike.

I have a hint for your upcoming pulls, since you seem to be torn between the targeted ones (which give bonus Thread, but are very likely to give a very specific ID) and the Standard Banner (which is more likely to drop something new for your collection, but no thread). Well. Project Moon announced an EGO banner, which might just be the best of both worlds for you. (You are unlikely to get that specific EGO anyway, so it's basically a standard banner, which also happens to give bonus Thread).

2:11:10 OHHH THAT'S WHY HE FLIPS TAILS

Wsault needs regret to be decent unfortunatly

W corp Mersault is actually really really good. But you have to uptie him to 4. Otherwise his charge gain is terrible. Same thing with W Faust. Also the last thing you need rlly fora W Corp team is W corp Don and R corp Ishmael

Manager bud, n corp is a cool team, but as far as animations and narrative weight, you ain't even in the water of this iceberg yet.

Now its chicken time

the Inquisitors were not enemies, they were *victims*

If you must replace one of them for Nsault, I'd replace don since her support passive is good with Nclair

Ncorp Heath becomes way better at uptie 4 for simply gaining +1 coin power while you have 4 other n corp Ids fighting, including him

Peak

honestly i do not get why people thirst for kromer, mainly becuase im like 50% sure shed kill me for using ADHD meds.

mannn, nclair is so cool, can't get enough of him.

its sad to see that he doesnt get the real experience of the fight...

Oh poor man, recording this right before ishmael new banner, what a shame lol

2 hours and a half long video, god damn !!!

Very excited for the next episodes. 3.5 Hells Chicken is my favorite canto (even though it’s technically not a canto and 4 and 5 substantially better in most every way)

I don’t think Kromer corroded golden bough resonated with Sinclair’s fears And from what I understand Kromer sees Abnormalities as true humanity hence applying ego corrosion on his followers by making them wear ego gear and torturing them and tried to become a abnormality by Sinclair resonance to golden bough thus Sinclair being a Key Kromer looked like big Lust peccatula