I am eternally grateful for the time you took to make his video. I set you on my lathe with my iPhone pausing after each step my belt came out right the first time! Thanks I don’t know how you made sense of the pattern in the book but I am very glad I didn’t have to.
Thanks for this. Bought a leather belt and did this today and it is a huge improvement over the old wore out belt with the wire splice that came with my lathe
No problem Adam! Glad it was helpful. Yeah, I don't like the tick-tick noise with alligator spliced belts. This method results in a silent running belt. Take care, G.
Thanks for the video. Just got a new to me 1949 South Bend 9A. I completely tore it down,cleaned it,oiled it, new wicks,gaskets, the whole works...put it all back together and forgot to put the belt on!! So instead of taking parts back off, I re laced the belt thanks to your awesome video!
Hi! I first watched your tutorial 2 yrs ago when I first got my (scrapped) lathe (to assure myself I wouldn't have to buy a new belt, that I could fix the belt that I had cut) Now much later, im sewing the belt..every couple moves I take a break and watch you doing the next couple steps. Most people dont have kevlar fiber thread laying around but i pulled one thread out of some kevlar cloth i had , but kevlar just. doesnt. wear......I hope there isn't a drawback to that in the future (brittleness??)... Thank you so, so much for your efforts. You helped me in a major way.
Thanks Perry. Glad it was helpful. The waxed thread I used is still holding up to this day. I don't know what Kevlar will to over time- but I suspect it will work for a long time. Take care, G.
That they can, and work great. Lacing like this was common many years back. Alligator lacing is another option, but I personally don't have the tooling nor like the clicking sounds they make. Good luck, G.
@@ghostses -- Will do. I have to restore it first. It's a belt driven grinder from the late 1800's. I'm building a new Blacksmith shop on my ranch and adding some older restored equipment. This will be my 3rd Blacksmith shop in 30 years. Seem's every time I buy a new piece of property I build a Blacksmith shop, LOL. Anyway, I also have a 1900 Lodge Shipley lathe that was once belt driven and has been converted. I'm thinking of changing it back to belt driven in the future.
I just used 2 old leather belts and leather shoelaces punched a few holes and tied it up and surprisingly it worked great and not to loud at all it's been on for 2 years so far with moderate use
this is great, i was considering trying to glue an endless belt for my mini camelback drill, the clipper laced one is noisy, however after seeing this and the wonderfully quiet results you got i think i will go this rout, however im going to be doing it on rubber/cloth type transmission belting. thank you for making this, and if your interested im currently restoring the drill on my channel
Thanks! I think this would be a good option for your press. Let me know how it works out on the rubber/cloth belting. I've considered getting some over the years but never did. Here's a link to the South Bend instructions. It covers gluing, alligator, and hand lacing. The belt on your press looks wider than what I show in the video, so the instructions should come in handy to show the spacing on wider belts. The press is looking good! Good luck, G. www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCQQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wewilliams.net%2Fdocs%2FBelt%2520Splicing%2520Instructions%2520-%2520Bulletin%2520No%2520600.pdf&ei=YoOXVICwOsPaoATh-oLwCA&usg=AFQjCNFtCxiI-mvUz8URk0oHMd2MqR1k4A&sig2=kT3SWaSDqOiO6KgDAs6Rmg&bvm=bv.82001339,d.cGU&cad=rja
***** with some experimentation I got a lace that works well, i just scaled up by eye to my belt, most troubles came from finding suitable string, I found some 3 strand kite string and pulled a length apart and used a single strand. due to the woven structure of the belting I needed to set the holes a bit farther back from the edge so it wouldn't pull out. i used a small drill in the other press at the highest speed to make the holes, this belting is tough and I think it would be very hard to punch it. I'm quite happy with the performance, its smoother, quieter, and more flex and friction for contact with the small motor pulley. if your considering using this type of belting i'd recommend it, i purchased mine from mcmaster for about a buck a foot, i think the leather was around a buck an inch! and this belting requires pretty much no care and can run on both sides, it also doesn't look terrible on antique machines like serpentine belts do, but thats just a matter of opinion.
captaingreenbush Thanks for the update and info. Good to here it's worked out well. I use a waxed braided cord I picked up from Tandy and have good luck with it on the leather belting. I believe I'll pick some up in the future to try it out. It sounds like a worthwhile upgrade and cheaper than leather for sure. Plus I like that it doesn't detract from the authenticity of the machine- or very little at that. Take care, G.
@@InebriatedEngineer nice... I just picked up an old sigourney drill press and wanted to see it in action before I go through with restoring it. I had a blank black belt 1.5 inch wide and cut it right down the middle working great. Much much quieter than the alligator xlips.
nice work. I've got an old 1942 Logan lathe and the belt is stretching out. Now I'm maxed out on my belt tensioner and the belt slips constantly, especially with heavy cuts. I'll have to give this a try. Thanks for sharing.
+Naked Machinist Thanks! I certainly know the drill on running out of adjustment. When I run out on my SB, I simply cut it shorter and stitch it up again. I don't have the tools for alligator lacing and don't care for the ticking and wear on the pulleys anyway. This is a good solution. Give it a go and let me know how it turns out on your Logan. Good luck, G.
Thanks Kenneth! After you get the hang of it, it's really easy to do. I like it better than alligator clips because I don't like the ticking, and you don't need any special tools. I also like it better than skiving and gluing for many reasons. You don't need to learn to skive, you don't need glue, no clamping and no time to wait before use. The biggest one is when the belt stretches beyond the adjustment, you just need to cut one side shorter, make the holes and grooves and stitch it back up! Let me know how it turns out when you get to doing it. Good luck, G.
Thanks for this video! I wll probably end uo using this method once I do a flat belt conversion on my lathe. Even though I won't be using leather and instead will use either a Habasit TC series flat belt or one of those ruberized canvas belts called ''balata'' (that's the name I've found them under so far).
Thanks for the link to Tandy Leather. I know zero ! Veary clear video showing sewing. I have an old Farmall tractor with a pulley and no belt. Knowing that in our space age era those old parts can be made open the way to all sorts of projects. I suppose for wider belt, the same sewing pattern applies just in more numerous times starting from center toward ends one side at a time. How did you make groove in leather without tool ? thanks for still answering to all after so many years. You´re à real gentlemen of a by gone era !!
No problem Daniel! Yes, you just follow the pattern out to the width of your belt. You can use an exacto knife, or a a box blade to cut a V if you don't have the proper tool. Just be careful on how deep you cut. Hope this helps, G.
3:55, Just setting a marker when the sewing starts G. I have a few to make out of the rubber and cloth belts, not sure if it's a brand, but am trying it on balata, 3 ply, 5mm thick. Seems to cut like leather, i am cutting the thread clearance slots in this one, it does damage one ply, but we se how it goes. Already cut the old leather belt and done it this way for the speed pulleys, works like a charm.
That's cool Sirus! I've seen the hybrid belting but have never used it. I bet it will work out well even though you took out a layer. I would say that's way better than the tread being abraded over time. Let me know how it goes over time. G.
Thanks! I really cant say what size the holes were and the thread size. I picked up the waxed thread from Tandy Leather and made the holes to suit the thread. Not much info, but hope it helps. Take care, G.
Good to hear from you Stranger! Hope the SB9 works out well for you. Some may like the tick of the alligator lacing, but it drives me nuts. Plus, this method requires little in the way of tooling (over the alligator) and works great to boot. Take care Sirus, G.
Thanks! Not outright but I believe this is the exact manual I referenced to do my belt. Copy this link and pasted in your browser. Hope this helps, G. wewilliams.net/docs/Belt%20Splicing%20Instructions%20-%20Bulletin%20No%20600.pdf
ghostses thank you for sharing this info, I have searched for this for a long time. In the past you see all the old factories running flat belts, did they have bigger cows then 😃 or joined multiple times
No problem! I would guess the cows were actually smaller then...lol. I would guess they would skive and glue the strips into long lengths- then finish with this type of lacing. Take care, G.
Thanks! Running the smooth side to the pulleys will give more friction than the rough side. It may have something to do with it giving greater surface contact. It seems counter-intuitive, but that's the way it is. Hope this helps, G.
I got it at Tandy Leather. I believe it's about 1/8-5/32" thick No, no treatment at all. Here's a link with widths and lengths to choose from. Good luck, G. www.tandyleather.com/en/product/heavyweight-natural-cowhide-leather-strips
True, I used a waxed braided cord from Tandy Leather. Here is a link, pick your color. Hope this helps. Good luck, G. tandyleather.com/products/waxed-braided-cord-25-yards?_pos=1&_sid=189b39151&_ss=r
True. This was a waxed thread I used which is what leather workers use for hand stitching. But, anything that would help should be utilized. Good luck and take care, G.
Nicky, it's a strip I picked up from Tandy Leather. Here's a link. You can pick the width you need from there. Hope this helps. Good luck, G. tandyleather.com/products/economy-veg-strips-48-long?pr_prod_strat=description&pr_rec_pid=4503169007747&pr_ref_pid=4503201054851&pr_seq=uniform
@@ghostses nice.... thank you very much...I found a pc of leather I could use last night but only have a baiting needle lol... going to tandy if they are open today.. thanks man.
I am restoring a 1935 South Bend lathe, 6 ft bed, 15" swing. I want to follow your example and hand-stitch the belt. My belts seem to be about 4" Do you have a link to the reference you mention that has stitching pattern for wider belts? Great video! EDIT: found it -- wewilliams.net/docs/Belt%20Splicing%20Instructions%20-%20Bulletin%20No%20600.pdf
Thanks Kevin, glad you found it. I did find you're showing your restoration on your channel. I'm in part two where you were having problems with the soggy soil. What a mess. I'll be following your progress. Good luck and take care, G.
@@ghostses Thanks. I have a belt with the metal connectors. I'm working to get my motor wired up and then I am going to see how much the click-click-click bothers me. If it does, I'm going to try the hand stitching like you show. Best wishes!
