The 6 speed transmissions are very reliable. And all you need to do is change your oil every 3000 miles and you will not get that lifter. Tick, I am at 60000 miles with my 2020 trail boss and I beat the crap out of it, and it runs like a clock.
My buddy drove a 2020 f150 2.7 twin Turbo, with the 10 speed coming across the country and he said that he absolutely hated that truck, it shifted extremely hard in the first 3 gears and if you're driving in town, it's always hunting for gears. I would much rather use the GM 10 speed. It delivers a lot more linear power, especially with a smooth V8., not some monstrosity of a V6 engine that belongs in a sports car.
Plus a lot of people don't realize with the new GM transmissions. You must change your transmission fluid. Every 30000 miles. If you do change the transmission fluid as required via maintenance, it will last over 200000 if you do not change your fluids regularly, they will break.
@@deedspm9and even if you had the lifter tick, they're pretty easy to redo on these GM. Engines, they're quite simple. You can't say that about working on that twin turbo v six engine, you can't even look at the thing without having to take the cab off of the frame😂😂😂😂
@@G-Rated PREACH!!! Jap and euro cars are so unrealisticly priced i'm done. Now TFL sin't entirely biased but more biased towards murica than anything else.
This just proves how people are just happy in their basic chevys. If they ever modify to a new engine, I just hope it goes from a 5.3 to a 5.5 lol . Let’s get some power on this heavy thing
I would be interested in upgrading to the 6.2 if it wasn’t 92 octane rated. It’s a work truck, i upgraded for better mpg. I do like the LT 5.3 vvt. Impressive torque
Toyota fanboy here. Shame they couldn't figure this out with the Sequoia. Chevy did it right with their 3rd row SUVs and the 1/2 ton baby duramax trucks.
@@killerb5726the only thing the Sequoia has going for it is a solid rear axle and best in class towing capacity. But their prices and the engine fiasco really turned me off. I’m a die hard Toyota guy but I’m looking at Super Duty Tremors for family vacations and towing instead.
Toyota Sequoia third row is a joke in the current generation. Toyota used to be amazing quality and well thought out. Now they’ve gotten very frugal and their quality is no longer best in class. The latest engine situation is an absolute disaster.
@@brucemoose2You do know that Toyota aren’t only a producer of pickup trucks right? Most of their product lineup is unibody cars & crossovers that still has better built quality over the competition. It’s just that the recent generation of trucks based models is where they dipped in terms of quality.
@@killerb5726me too… that sequoia’s space management behind the third row is a failure. Those plastic stacking shelves system?…🫤toyota will lose more customers with its direction in powertrains. Lots of them in dealers lots.eg.tundras,tacomas, sequoia’s. Landcruisers/Lexus. Turbos 6’s and turbo 4 bangers?🥴
@@Jason_Smith609 mine is the 5.3. At around 300,000 miles I bought a Range AFM disabler for it just for peace of mind but at that mileage I think I must have been lucky and got one without the dreaded lifter issue anyway.
I think Chevy has refreshed the Suburban and Tahoe quite nicely for this model year. So glad that the diesel is finally offered on the Z71 model and the LED lower brake lights, turn signals, and reverse lights are finally on the Suburban and Tahoe. That has been a minor nitpick of mine since this generation came out, so it’s good that’s been addressed. The new instrument panel genuinely looks excellent. The current model already had a well executed cabin, but this refresh definitely made this cabin even nicer than before. The real open pore wood on the High Country is also a neat touch. Y’all should take the new Suburban High Country up the Ike Gauntlet again with the new diesel when y’all get the chance to do so.
My family bought a Tahoe in 2002 it's never been in the shop. 190,000 Miles and starts every time still almost 60 psi oil pressure. I have owned several other cars and none have outlived this Tahoe.
Same for my family but with a 2002 Cadillac Escalade. Unfortunately, at 197k miles transmission went out at the beginning of 2024. Engine still fired right up and paint looked amazing
Because its a 2003. No active fuel management. Any 5.3 with active fuel management will have issues between 75k and 150k miles. Transmission will also fail. The failure rate on 6.2's is something like 1%-total engine failure stemming from bad crank or rod bearings.
I didn't know 9-seaters were still available. That is really cool. For a base model, that Suburban is actually pretty darn good. Forewent a lot of the extra junk you don't need, while still including a lot of actually useful features. Too bad it's still $10-15K too expensive.
I have a 2022 and I call it the “peace truck” because my family find their zen when on the road. Super smooth on the road the only complaint is that all my friends make me drive when we are together
I actually like this. The power closing and opening rear trunk is just a gimmick, mostly not needed. I actually like the 9 seats configuration too for “in a pinch” kind of situations. This is so much more utilitarian which something I thought cars should be. Much better than expedition. Chevy did a beautiful job with this.
My wife and I have owned 5 of these over the years. Every time we try something different, we come back. This is the best Gm vehicle. I literally fit 5 people and a kitchen sink with the cabinetry in one once during a remodel.
Real!!! I wish it had that f150 interior, same shifter and everything.The unnecessary extra screens is stupid. Just put a nice size screen just like the f150 has and don’t be overkill with it. Love how cleanly integrated the 1ft screen and shifter is. And should come with a 5.0 V8.
@@MJ-fj9yvyou might want to look at JD Power's manufacturer dependability study. Not just for 2023, check it out for multiple years prior. Chevy has been higher in that regard than Ford for quite some time.
I drive a 2021 Silverado work truck/base and absolutely love the front bench seat. I am used to my 2001 Silverado with a front bench seat and leg room it provides. I despise oversized center consoles. I had been looking at new Suburbans online and its impossible to find bench seats in one available at any dealership near me. I am coming around on a small center screen in the vehicles, but not so much on the dash right in front of the driver. I still prefer traditional gauge clusters. I would get one of these based Suburbans before any other one because they do what the others can. But for $63k, its out of my range.
The biggest problem with vehicles these days is that they are engineered for planned obsolescence with short warranty terms, expensive pricing, and subscription feature pricing. The consumer gets none of the value and the manufacturer gets all of the benefits. A 100k warranty should be standard on something that costs this much. With loan interest rates at what they are, I'm surprised people are still purchasing these vehicles.
I drive an 11' Burb 4x4 with 143k.. great vehicle taking it from Texas to Colorado soon.. One big thing to me with the new Suburbans is the lack of a solid rear axle.. Its about ground clearance for me. The lower rear control arms sit way too low for any lightly off pavement.. Other than price I still like GM's flagship..
It's a nice-looking truck inside and out. The front end and grill look real clean. Chevy's new digital dashboard make the entry level trucks appear up class. I was recently in California for almost a month and rented a Ford Expedition during this period. It had a 3.5 turbo engine. Gas mileage ranged from 12 to 17 MPG. While it was fast, comfortable and everyone I hauled around liked it, there were no compelling features that made my opinion favor it.
We have a 2022 LS 9 seater with the 3.0 duramax max tow and 4WD. Great value, ours was 61k before tax. Same base trim truck 2 years later is at least 10k more, crazy! Also, no way you can tow anything with 9 people in it. The payload won’t allow it.
People will complain they don't upgrade the powertrain while others complain if they do. The way of the world. The upgrades seem to hit the mark for those in the big SUV market who aren't interested in a second home instead. ;)
@@David_Journey You mean like Toyota’s compromises on pricing for their ancient & old hybrid tech that Americans pay markups for? Oh wait…again people only look for things to complain about on American products, mainly new product from *gm.* Nobody in the entire industry is offering this much for $66k yet you’re at the counter holding up the line demanding a discount. 🤡
I’m a gm fan driving an Expedition because of the abysmal towing ratings since they went independent rear suspension. They are almost 2000 pounds short compared with most of the competitors. Less than my old 07 Escalade. My travel trailer is 6700 empty.
So... If you want - and need - 9 seats, wouldn't a van be an easier to live with choice? At a similar size it's even more spacious, has a bigger boot and better modularity, plus - I can presume - it's more fuel efficient.
I’m waiting on these to become available so I can order a High Country Tahoe with the 24” rims. IMO they look amazing and the inside upgrades are really nice too. All around my favorite SUV for 2025!!!
I am still so happy I bought my wife a new Suburban in 2018. Fully Loaded LT model with every option available on an LT, out the door for $52k cash. We haul a family of 6, and I tow a 6,000 Lb. TT with it and couldn't be happier. These new unibody models are at least $20k more for a less durable truck.
They need to make an HD version that can tow around 11,000 pounds because 7,500 is very disappointing because I really want a 7+ person suv that can take my whole family and haul a large camper on road trips and I want the diesel for better fuel economy so I'm stuck trying to hunt down a good excursion to buy
Why put a shelf in a truck that takes up interior space, but you can't put anything on it? A shelf should be practical with slots for your phone or ipad, cup holders, or a pull out tray for fast food. If you can't use it because it's only a "design feature," then get rid of it.
I’m confused about the diesel. It’s going around the Internet and RU-vid that GM already killed the 3L DuraMax for SUVs and ending it for the 1500 pickup shortly.
It's nice to finally see the 2025 Tahoe and Suburban, and their GMC twins finally get the latest version of the 3.0L diesel the LZO instead of the older LM2.
@TheeAaron minor interior design changes as well as a few exterior tweeks. But the biggest change/switch is the outgoing LM2 for the LZO Diesel. Better hp and torque. The LZO has better internals like forged steel pistons and connecting rods and better cooling.
@TruckerMike089 if you dont mind me asking........what did they screw up? I've owned both the LM2 and the current LZO Diesel. Both have been great for me so far. No problems from either. So what did they screw up?
@LPM84. Oh no problem bud. The fact that they have a belt driven oil pump mounted in the back of the engine. In order to change out you must drop either the transmission or pull the engine.
I have a 2024 Silverado with a standard bed .24 gallon gas tank. Chevy cut down the gas tanks on these models which I think is nuts!! Especially for the prices we are charged. Happy with it otherwise. I like the updates ,but the shifter stalk is weird. Great review as always
I've got a '19 Tahoe LS custom, no 3rd seat, the base has everything, I still want to see a base with heated cloth seats, they do it in the Traverse, would be great to have in the full size, leather isn't for everyone....
I Grew up in a 04 Suburban. Great vehicle for road trips, very comfortable, not great on MPG. But if you look past that you can have yourself a pretty sleek looking vehicle. Now I joke with my mother saying we need another suburban!
I'll take the suburban as it is here. Hopefully 4x4 low range is optional. No moon roof - bravo! I've been driving my Yukon xl 25 years and maybe opened the sunroof 4 or 5 times and that was at least 15 years ago. I'm just curious as to how often you will actually see a base model available or even on a lot. Most dealerships opt for optioned out vehicles up here in the northeast.
@@tylersrubar6451 they have them here. Yet you still complain about their absence in a completely separate vehicle just for the sake of complaining? Such a typical tone around these parts whenever it’s a *gm.* It’s REALLY weird.
1:54 what on Earth happened to the tailllights. The 2024 has perfect tailllights with SEPARATE running, brake and AMBER turn signals. The 2025 tailllights are unacceptable with red turn signals. How are US manufacturers still incapable of consistently designing safe, effective and unambiguous tailllights with separate running, brake and amber turn signals? I'm completely baffled.
I can see where some might say “ they added value to the base model “ but, in reality they raised the base price to match the technology. So you’re not getting more for your money. You’re paying more and getting more. Auto manufacturers LOVE doing this…….
No old school column shifter? I guess the prius style shifter is better than that stupid push pluck shifter. As for the "tried and true" aspect of the modern GM V8, are they still using that horrible AFM crap that fails and requires a head off lifter replacement?
My current 2016 LS Suburban is plain but has towing features. Now that I Also have a loaded Sierra AT4. i don't know if I could live with an LS. I am hooked on the 6.2.
I’ll trade our faithful 2021 on a new suburban. We’ve enjoyed 110,000 trouble free miles already. We’re a farm family and do lots of driving, hauling, and towing. Above all the suburban is awesome for the kids.
I think that the Silverado, along with the Tahoe should start at $35,000, and the Suburban should start at maybe $38,000, or near $40,000. Remember when the price of a new vehicle was around $35,000 - 40,000 just a couple years ago. The Cadillac version of this used to start at around $70,000 a couple years ago. You are telling me that I am going to go out, and buy a car like this for at least $63,000, and I still want to get a house (about $350,000 on average in 2024). All these automakers need to rethink their priorities. There is no way that they need to charge at least $63,000 for one of these to make a decent profit.
I’m going for the z71 suburban with the 3l duramax and the 28 gallon fuel tank! Either white or all black. I want all that range for trips! I’m not gunna lie tho after seeing that ls model I would be tempted to just get that with the duramax instead of you can option it that way
I'm a Toyota fan all the way, but this beats the Sequoia.... I'm sorry Toyota, but look at this? Chevy has more room and a V8 ... That's going to sell me. Reliability on new Toyota's have gone down (probably still better than other turbo/hybrids) and Reliability on outgoing Chevy V8's are decent so ... Yeah ...
Why did GM reduce the size of the fuel tank on this generation? The long wheel base used to have a 31 gallon tank. Affordability is out the door with new SUV's. You better be making well over $100k and $30k to put down if you want to buy a brand new one. Base price over $70k for a z71 is steep. My wife's 2017 Yukon Denali with EVERY OPTION had a sticker price of just under $80k. We bought it used in 2018 for $45k.
Love our 2021 ("2nd Gen.2021"/made after early June 2021 without Auto-Stop/Start) Tahoe Z71 ... will definitely get the new 2025 Tahoe Z71 ... awesome vehicle and I'll stay with the 5.3 L V-8 which works best for us. (P.S. 1st Gen 2021 Tahoe with Auto-Stop/Start is NOT recommended ... had lots of engine issues, ... I had one and those were made until May 2021).
Do you guys like the front end? It’s nice and I understand it’s the new design language for Chevys but I kinda dig the current front end way more. This one’s too gaudy
The only negative, which is something the GM just doesn’t do, is the lack of the middle seat headrest on both rows. Adults will snap their necks in an accident
I just traded in my 2022 Suburban High Country. It spent 3 months in the dealer with glitches. The instrumental cluster would go off in the middle of a drive and I couldn’t tell how fast I was going. It happened for a whole year! First and last time buying a GM product. Also, I paid closed to $92k for it and 2 years later I got $50k as a trade in! Best offer for it! It was an awesome smooth ride, but far from reliable! I do miss the space tho!
We bought a new 2023 GMC Acadia for $56k in September 2023. Same dealer offered us $25k for trade at about 10k miles in September 2024. I know its an older model, but utterly ridiculous drop in value on these things. Over 50% drop in value in one year. The salesman was wondering why we walked away from his desk. 😕
@@mrjack8849Thats why it’s important to consider resale value when buying new. Research the residual value and average depreciation based on historical facts. My family member for example went with Toyota 4runner due to extremely high resale value after losing a lot with their prior vehicle in few years of ownership.
I hope nobody pays Msrp for this but there’s so many dealers I doubt they will except maybe for the first two months or so. At $4-5k off this seems like a better truck than the new expedition.
This won’t even be in dealerships until next year. What the hell happened to the next year‘s models coming out in somewhere between October and December?
Let me ask a question do we really need all that crap in a vehicle it just raises the price of the cars I want a plain vehicle that I can drive I don't need all that high-tech bullshit
i hear that! like new trd pro tacoma. 70k pretty much. take out moonroof, bullshit shock seats and a few other things to make it affordable!! even a base corolla is 24k now! Jeez , what happened to the car industry last 4--5 years!!
