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My home inspector when we bought our house couldn’t even figure this out. He said this outlet on the back patio doesn’t work, it was just a tripped gfi in the bathroom
What’s really scary is two people who aren’t competent enough to understand GFI outlets felt confident enough to pull an outlet out of the wall to investigate.
The fascinating part is that this is totally installed properly/efficiently. GFI provides protection to non GFI sockets provided they are after the GFI in the circuit. I've seen kitchens and bathrooms with dozens of GFI when only one was necessary - huge waste of materials.
Our Millennial daughter and her husband called home telling Dad the ceiling fan/light wasn't working and could he come up and bring his "electrical tools" to fix the light and they would take us out for lunch. We arrived and Steve picked up the remote light switch and slid the dimmer slide up!! It's a miracle!! We went for lunch and we paid and when I asked our daughter why she wasn't paying she said, "I was going to pay based on how much work Dad did and he didn't really do anything." Classic family story but we were glad to get to visit the kids regardless.
When we run circuits in houses, garage gets it's own, exterior plugs get their own, fridges and freezers get their own dedicated circuits. That place was wired a bit lazily if you ask me.
@@luisarrizon6707 where I live, as long as the fridge is on it's own circuit your fine. Unless your fridge plug is above counter height and right next to a sink where water could potentially splash the plug.
Let me ask you something. We just built a house and the keyless basement lights seem to wired so crazy without any forethought. There are 3 lamps wired on the same joist that goes first to the middle, then to the right, then back past the middle to the left. I'm going to install new lights and want to break out the "dirty" side to a separate switch. I'm going to have to rewire the whole thing because it's all intertwined. Why don't they just wire them from light to the next light to the next. Right now, it's hard to trace and when I do, it just doesn't seem to make sense. What don't I know?
At a Christmas party and they were bummed their wonderful outdoor Christmas lights didn’t work. I walked into the kitchen and pressed the gfi reset. I was the hero of the party which is depressing because everyone was confused how I knew to do that.
@@lorensolares6277 No he means that a garage should have its own dedicated circuit, not shared with any room inside the home. This is just a poor and lazy way to wire a home.
Maybe you should have proposed installing a separate circuit for the bathroom, and bringing it up to code with a dedicated circuit. More $ for you and less headaches for the homeowner.
Not necessary, is just things people doesn't know. This guy in the video probably pays for expensive already made food when others can cook it for much less money. I'm pretty sure whoever called him make their money thinking other people is ignorant too
I had the same thing happen on a rambler I built. Owner called and said, "My back porch outlet doesn't work." I told him to push the GFI reset in the master bath. He text me back, 'All good now.'
I just did your floor patch hack. Same as a drywall patch but on a wood floor. Worked perfect as I was able to find a two tone board to match the hole they put between two boards. Thanks for your service amigo.
@Caleb m plug testers perform several tests at once with 3 visual led indicators. One of the simplest electrical diagnostic tools u can buy. If they dont know how a GFCI works how can u expect them to understand all the functions of a multimeter?
I did this for one of my tenant...the gfi outlet needed to be reset was hidden behind a shelf in the garage...really hard to find, but save $500 more . Good video!
Would you charge them $500 to pull that red cord? Overhead Door here in Kansas City, will completely replace 2 springs for a heavy wood 2-car garage door for $450.
Why wouldn’t you just suggest that he go check the gfi in the master bedroom before you came out? Per your response you do a lot of work for this property manager, so don’t you feel the need to somewhat preserve the relationship you have with them. I have always told my employees to do what is right by the customer while being FAIR to the company and you will never have to worry about having business. If I was this property manager I would drop you in a heartbeat if i saw this video. Again if you manage multiple properties for him, this would hit your pocketbook well beyond the $500 you “earned” on this job.
Although I agree with your stance on prolonging their relationship, you have to remember the time spent travelling to the location, equipment used, time spent at the location, and then of course labour. @ 0:13 his watch shows 9;23, and again @ 11:41 his watch shows 9;56, indicating that he most likely charged 1 hour of labour between 100-200/hr. He also says he came and gave a quote, which takes more time. :)
It's a rental, and depending on how many rentals the property management group has, the cost to send someone out is minimal. Property management groups in the pacific north will run you $80 to $110 a month for an average rental. If they manage 50 rentals its easier for them to send someone.
So telling someone how to fix it with the knowledge that you possess is a smart buisness move 🤔🤔. When they ask or call someone else that someone else is going to charge them money. You're paid for the knowledge you possess
In this case tell the renter to reset the gfi. If you don't say anything to the tenant the GFi will trip again sooner or later and they will have to call you back and they are not going to pay you and they're going to think much less of you in the future. you have to educate your customers to maintain their friendships-- that's how you build trust in yourself.
Exactly. This handyman is a crook. All it would take is a simple printed label that says "Bathroom GFI" on all the downstream outlets so that they know which one to reset. Instead he'd rather leave them in the dark (literally and figuratively) so that he can steal their money.
This video is proof that my devices are watching me... just yesterday, I was called to fix a very similar issue.. the homeowner had replaced his older kitchen outlets with gfci outlets and got his wires crossed.. he also replaced every other outlet and wall switch in the house in one go, then couldn’t figure out why nothing would turn on. Fine by me if someone doesn’t understand the basics of a 3 pole switch. Thanks for the video!
OMG!!! I just tried this to my girls bedroom and it worked man. You are a awesome. Thank You. This has been like this for to long. I'm embarrassed that I didn't try it. Thanks again.
We had a GFI outlet in our garage that started clicking like mad here and there. Turned out it was a bad one but holy cow, we thought maybe it was our water heater. Subscribed to your channel, we do work for my brother who is a contractor, pretty good money for us retired people, pretty easy at times....and pretty awful too! Nena California
Well done! As an electrician myself, I get calls all the time for residential issues, and half of them are problems with GFCI receptacles having been tripped out.
Ha! Funny this video showed up on my recommend list. I just did this very job for a friend yesterday. It was not immediately obvious as the GFCI was in an unused room. He got off cheap and bought my lunch.
We have a GFI in our bathroom and it also trips our sprinkler system on the outside of the wall. One of the first things we did was figuring out the wiring.
One spectacular customer- construction management savvy, wound up resetting the single GFCI basement outlet daily. Replaced the 13 20 amp limit devices strategically, load to line, GFI protected, area by area, but this was minor utmost customer service- the impossible- extremely fast and perfectly, is standard. Think multiple hat trick
Handyman, I picked up my Home Depot DeWalt power tool kit ($499) and four heavy duty shelf units ($49) at Lowe’s today. Thanks for the heads up on these great sales. I already own all of the other items you recommended. Thanks again!
First I just paused your video at 3 mins in, because I was laughing because I was talking just before you saying everything you were about to say, first about the GFIs and then the outlet in the garage and yes the operating GFI is in the master bathroom. I was saying all of those things and saying "Yes" easy money, just push the button. Just did the same thing in my house, but of course I didn't make any money from it, I just gained useful knowledge, like you keep giving me. You're a good man ... and you are definitely motivating me to take on more jobs. ..... Okay that's it I gotta go back to watching to see how this video ends ... You Da Man !!!! Haha
I have one circuit in my house like this, used to drive me crazy every time it tripped but its happened enough now I remember which GFI I need to reset. lol
This is what I personally would have done I would have took the circuit that came from the bathroom to the garage separated it from the GFI put it on the line side instead of a load side figure out which outlet has the feed coming into the garage and put another GFI there. The garage the bathroom and outside should technically be on separate circuits at least that's Florida codes.
Yup - I made lots of money years ago, changing light bulbs in vacation rentals, resetting GFCI, changing batteries in smoke alarms, clearing garbage disposals. Tons of 15 minute jobs with one hour minimum charges...
yea thats a little steep BUT, if you get someone for cheap that doesnt have the knowledge to problem solve an think of what else could be tripping or possibly bad in that circuit then youll be wishing you paid a little more. someone who has no idea how to diagnose would start "throwing parts" at it or start cutting holes everything thinking a wire is broken or chewed through. its not the time, its the knowledge. knowledge is expensive. work is cheap.
I had the exact same ‘service call’ just two days ago. GFCI in the basement bathroom had tripped all of they outlets in the other bathrooms and the garage. It was the first thing I went searching for when i found out the bathroom outlets were ‘bad’. Lookin good... and on to the next one. Thanks Handyman
Reset several GFCI’s for homeowners calling in a panic. Even told them how to reset it themselves. $125 later and 5 minutes later mission accomplished. Putting on your tool bags is a good idea which is something I didn’t do and is a great idea.
Former apt maint here. The culprit is the curler and the user of it. You did the right thing for your customer. Hope you remembered to unplug that curler.
that great!! and to each business its own, if you cant figure it out call a handyman we got you covered.. i would think whatever this homeowner does if he has a business, hes out there doing what he does best and i'm sure his customers are happy and willing to pay for his services when needed.. so touche!! to push a button or not to push a button your time is valuable!! get it when you can..
the permanent fix: In masterbath go to line side of GFI outlet with garage power and then put a GFI in garage if needed. If things trip it will be local to the problem and easier for different tenants to figure out. Guess its in masterbath ...oh my.
This is exactly why anytime I have someone come and fix something that I can't figure out myself, I follow them around my house and asked them as many questions as I can so I at least get my money's worth. Once I see what they did, I never have to call them again for a similar repair. I can't imagine having a service person come and not be home.
I like that he goes into a story about a guy who has like 100s of feet of extention cord running to his freezer in the garage. But then you realize that guy is just smarter than literally everyone else this guy "fixes" gfi outlets for🤣🤣
I had a house in Texas wired like that. I added new GFCI outlets in the bathrooms wired them to feed through. Added a new 15 amp GFCI circuit in the garage for the fridge.
On the subject of GFI outlets, Fluorescent lighting can trip them when you turn the light off. I've seen it so often with student microscopes that use a 5W bulb, that I know it's not an issue with the light. It's just reverse EMF from the ballast when disconnected. It happens a small percentage of the times it's turned on/off that makes me think it has to be the timing of the disconnect with the cycle of the electricity. I don't know if it happens with house lighting or not, but it would be a hair puller of a problem to troubleshoot for a handyman who has to come back and reset a GFI on a regular basis. I've seen school labs that have a GFI outlet in every position instead of using one to feed the other outlets. It's quite comical to push the test button on one and have several throughout a lab room trip at the same time.
A lot of people don't know and/or don't want to know such simple knowledge. This is why you and I can make money. The simplest things and the unwillingness to learn new things or whatever the reason is. It's so easy to change a garbage disposal but ignorance will make it complicated...so be it! Because of this...we have money to live by.
@bookmarkthis like one electrician i know once told me. i change sensors for free but i do charge for knowing which one i should change. if you are to lazy to at least try to use common sense and figured out the problem by your self then you be paying for someone else knowledge. I installed a ceiling fan, google nest, repair things around my house myself. by just asking people with knowledge and by doing some research.
When I moved into my last house, the two bathrooms were wired through a single GFCI plug in the master that went bad. I'd reset it and it would pop after only a day or two. Replaced the plug with a new one and never had another problem. I ended up tearing the wall out from between the two and making it one big master bath, so if the wiring had been bad, I would have replaced it at that point.
My kid has a handyman business here in Northern VA...he's 16 years old. We built our own house (most of the carpentry, all the doors, all the electrical, all the utilities from the street) and he learned all the skills he needed to do this job. He averages about $75 TO $150 per hour depending on what the job is...$500 for an hour of work is not outrageous...you've got to consider travel time (to and from), the investment in materials he has to maintain, work equipment and the standard rate for the area you work in...I am not offended by capitalism...if you can't do it your self, you pay what the man that knows how to do the job wants for his skills...
I’m 15 and want to do this ( I worked on my dads construction company since I was 7 ) I still do but I want to make more money how do you recommend going about it?
My sister had christmas lights out front that stopped working after a rain storm. None of the breakers were thrown and I looked all over for a GFI plug in the garage. I noticed the workbench was set out from the wall a little bit. I unscrewed it from the wall and the GFI outlet was behind the workbench leg. I pushed to reset, and christmas lights back on! LOL, on newer houses the wire the outside plugs to a GFI in the garage!
You're right, but as a Realtor I don't even see them. I see them on Sparky's youtube channel but that's it! I bet people peel them off for a cleaner look.
“Can’t go in there just pushing buttons, gotta make it look like you’re doing some work.” 😂😂😂 Still I would suggest this fix is not intuitive: I remember when I first figured it out, and how interesting it was. However I could see how you could wrangle them for not remembering.
5 years ago when I just bought my house, the previous owners were the ones who built it themselves. And the downstairs which i use for an office is wired up GFI to the master bathroom. So the first time it tripped. We had no clue for an entire day how to fix it. We called the previous owner to tell us they wired the GFI ect. I need to remove the connection and just home run the office to the panel. its right next to the garage and like 20 feet away so yeah
Hey brother im from jax fl and did eletric for 16 years know for the last 4 years been doing consrution with my buddy with a family own 28 year company because know i love what i do and am still learning . Just wanted to say keep own trying r doing i think ur doing a great job . Just dont get anyone shocked 😜🤪😫
An electrician told me once that when the ground prong is up, it is actually the right way up. Said that when a child pulls on it, the plug will be forced further into the outlet, protecting those prongs from danger a bit more I guess. People just like to see a happy faces on the receptacles!
Pete M it is also best practice when using metal cover plates. If the plate comes loose and falls between the outlet and plug, it will land on the ground.
easy way to know you tripped a GFI is by using a volt meter. Confirm no hot by testing volts to ground then check continuity between N and G If both are open its almost always caused by a GFI outlet because it will open both lines.
I have a house I am working on that has a regular outlet in the bathroom and GFI Breaker. I work in a poorer area so I would never be able to charge that much for outlet repair. I do have a minimum per day in order for me to work and be profitable. Like you, I never advertise my work comes from referrals.
As a live sound guy, I'm running into more and more GFI outlets built onto temporary power drop boards for festivals and the like. The unfortunate thing is GFI outlets and the new, high power, fast mode switching power supplies in the power amplifiers (to drive the speakers) in large outdoor PA systems, do not play well at all. The high frequency switching that occurs causes the GFI's to trip. the workaround is a box of drywall screws kept in the truck to keep the reset buttons "depressed"
When i got changed $400 to fix a vacuum leak in my car. I started doing my own work. Its really unfair. To charge people who are young and starting out in life. Charge those prices to the stingy rich folk that wait to make the repairs. And actually do some major expensive work. But then again maybe that would just enable them. . . Just a thought.
I have gfi outlets all through my house. Sometimes when I overload the circuit I have to reset the outlet. No problem. If I have a small problem like this I go to google and study and try to fix myself. I want to learn how to do stuff. If you pay someone to fix for you will never learn anything. With that, thanks 🙏 so much for your videos very educational.
It’s stupid to have a gfci outlet in the master bathroom controlling the outside and garage outlets. I have a similar situation. The gfci outlet in the hall bathroom controls the outlet in the crawl space. It took me an hour to figure that out.
I got a buddy chest freezer when he got married He got tire of the stupid Garage plug going deed by the back porch GFI tripping, and not knowing til the STANK from all the rotted food in the powerless freezer eventually became noticeable. Why the heck did the builders put the OBVIOUS GARAGE FREEZER/FRIDGE plug on the same run with a far leaky exterior gfi.. sheesh
I think that's usually how they wire them. I was asked by a sister's friend to take a look why her outlets at the garage and porch had no power. She didn't tell me that her outlet at the master's bathroom also didn't have power so I just concentrated troubleshooting at the lighting panelboard and the three outlets outside. Couldn't figure it out, nothing was tripped at the panelbox and yet the three outlets had no power. Until I thought of checking all the outlets inside because it seemed wasteful to have a branch circuit with only three outlets. That's when I saw the outlet at the master bathroom had no power and I saw that it had a reset button so I reset it and everything went okay. That's how I became familiar with GCFIs. I have heard of it in my native country but nobody really uses it.
That's the cool thing about common knowledge. If everyone knew what people in all these different trades knew... I'd be standing on an assembly line doing shift work for a shit rate. I'll gladly do some light wiring for way too much money.
Another cheap and effective way to make a spacer for a receptical is a piece of 1/4 inch pex pipe. You can cut it to length and use 2 inch long 6×32 screws
OMG funny! This happened to me at my new house. The outlet in the garage had tripped and cut out both bathrooms.Took me about 10 minutes to figure it out. I'm not a millennial, I'm a geezer lol...
I have what might be a dumb question. I thought it was wrong to plug a refrig erator, or anything with a compressor that cycles, into a gfci outlet. Is this true?
Pool, I agree. Gfci at each location will also help determine which location was causing the tripping. It might have been water getting into the outside outlet.
You don't want a gfci at every outlet. It would make more sense to just separate the bathroom from the circuit.The breaker is enough for most everything
I appreciate you explaining how the outlets do not work becaue of the tripped GFI. But, I would like to know why the outlet tripped in the first place.
I like to use the plastic spacers used for aligning outlets flush with wall. The plastic spacers the same ones used to adjust outlets after adding ceramic tile.
