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Harley Benton ST 20 HSS review : how cheap can you go ? 

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How good - or bad - can be a 89€ guitar ? How good does it play and how good does it chug ? Let's discover it together !
This Harley Benton ST-20 HSS BKS on Thomann : www.thomann.de/fr/harley_bent...
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PLAN OF THE VIDEO :
Intro and Unboxing : 00:00
First impressions : 01:11
Demo in the Mix : 03:33
Pros and Cons : 06:21
Guitar Alone Hi Gain : 11:25
Guitar Alone Clean : 13:05
Pots and Tremolo : 14:49
Final thoughts : 16:28
SIGNAL CHAIN :
► Harley Benton ST-20 HSS
► Mooer Hustle drive (Hi gain)
► Blackstar HT-metal 5 (Hi gain) and Bugera G5 infinium (clean)
► Two Notes Audio Torpedo Captor
► Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
► Torpedo Wall Of Sound cab simulator.

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Комментарии : 100   
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
A few precisions : - when I talk about the scratches on the pickguard, some are pretty deep and I'm sure they have passed through the plastic film that's supposed to protect it. Now no I haven't removed that plastic film cos' I have returned the guitar (remember : the tone pot for the bridge pup doesn't work.) - What I say about the QC is precisely what Thomann's Customer Service told me about the way it works. So yes, clearly, they check out everything their eyes can see, but they don't test the guitar functionalities. - some say I've been a been harsh with this guitar. That was not my intent; cos it's a good guitar for the price and it plays really nice. I've spent some good times writing and playing this demo with it ! But I didn't want to give you the impression that it's perfect, or that it's the bargain of the century. Now I must say I've been disappointed with the painting and it was a pain in the butt cleaning it :/
@astrosurf68
@astrosurf68 11 месяцев назад
Its a strat copy.. The tone on strats are only for the neck and middle pickup.
@yetimatzenightcat8702
@yetimatzenightcat8702 3 года назад
Great playing and review. Thanks alot. Many Greetings 🐈
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
Thanks to you ! :D
@Oilid
@Oilid 3 года назад
Daaaamn! GREAT PLAYING MAN!!! 🤘😉
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
Thanks ! :D
@user-mf3cx7mb9k
@user-mf3cx7mb9k 3 года назад
in basic configuration no pots are applied to the bridge humbucker, so well it's possible to resoil in any way you want it :-) nice play and nice review! =)
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
Thanks !
@Nestor57k
@Nestor57k 9 месяцев назад
Very good review, thanks.
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 9 месяцев назад
Thank you !
@smooothybuns
@smooothybuns 2 года назад
Nice review and playing! The tone pots are for the middle and neck picks ups. The bridge doesn’t have one
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 2 года назад
Thanks ! Well I did not expect the pots to work this way... First time I see this electronic configuration.
@stephenz2822
@stephenz2822 2 года назад
Picked up one of these and was pleasantly surprised at the playability and the feel.
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 2 года назад
I had the same feeling :)
@donalddemille5910
@donalddemille5910 3 года назад
I have two Harley Bentons already. I couldn't pass on this HSS for $89 US! Will let you know what I think. My other two guitars, I love and can't believe the affordability!
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
hope you'll enjoy it ;)
@williammolina9792
@williammolina9792 9 месяцев назад
Cost now 111€.
@gluteusmaximus1657
@gluteusmaximus1657 3 года назад
Pull the foil from the pickguard. There used to be a protective plastic covering/foil on top . Pretty good sounds for this price range. Nice playing !
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
I haven’t removed the plastic from the pickguard but some scratches were really deep I’m pretty sure they have passed through it. Now it’s just cosmetic on plastic so not a big deal. And thanks for my playing :)
@capzisediam5845
@capzisediam5845 3 года назад
Pull the foil from the pickguard ... thx ... that was my thought too ;-)
@capzisediam5845
@capzisediam5845 3 года назад
@@ToroKchannel Now it’s just cosmetic on plastic so not a big deal ... that´s a good attitude !!
@donalddemille5910
@donalddemille5910 3 года назад
I'm sorry, I didn't see your partner link till after I bought. I did subscribe and "ring" the bell :-)
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
Thanks for subscribing ! And for the partner link, well... For your 4th Harley Benton :)
@burakerdem8041
@burakerdem8041 3 года назад
Thanks for review, im gonna use ur link
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
Thanks Man !
@recepasal3649
@recepasal3649 2 года назад
Kanka aldın mı gitarı nasıl?
@burakerdem8041
@burakerdem8041 2 года назад
@@recepasal3649 yok kardeşim vazgeçtim bundan sonra 2. El bir sx tele ash aldım. Genel olarak söyleyebileceğim şey ise şu, bütçenin 1/3 ünü gitar 2/3 ünü amfiye ver, gitar çok iyi olmasa sa başlangıç olduğu için kurtarıyor ama amfi çöpse istersen fender al hiç zevk alamazsın
@recepasal3649
@recepasal3649 2 года назад
@@burakerdem8041 Anladım teşekkürler
@burakerdem8041
@burakerdem8041 2 года назад
@@recepasal3649 rica ederim dostum
@danielrivero2319
@danielrivero2319 3 года назад
Hey, nice review. ¿how do the fret size feel like (medium/jumbo)?
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
Thanks ! The frets are medium jumbo.
@ghostdog9441
@ghostdog9441 2 года назад
i got a new riff 😁👍, good review, thanx👍
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 2 года назад
Happy that you enjoy my riff :)
@maxmustardman298
@maxmustardman298 3 года назад
it seems they changed the fretboard on these as well, the current pics show a reddish fretboard material whereas yours has a ebony like colour...
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
I've checked it out and it looks like the fretboard is still Amaranth. But on the one I had, it was painted to look darker. On the new one, you have the natural color of amaranth.
@ArturGordonPim
@ArturGordonPim Год назад
Hi , thanks for this video!🙂 I would like to buy this guitar. Only thing I am not sure about, actually I'm not got used to is vibrato (tremolo rod), so guitar can be played normally without it? Also bridge needs to be blocked, if I don't use it? Thanks.
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel Год назад
Hi ! You don't need to worry about this trem, if you don't use it, it will leave you alone. The bridge doesn't need to be blocked.
@ArturGordonPim
@ArturGordonPim Год назад
@@ToroKchannel Hi friend! All clear, many thanks! You made my mind now, I will order it!🙂 Also I've been thinking of te-20hh, looks nice. But I never played tele, so i like this strat, the look and how it sounds, will be good for me! Thanks again!🙂
@Noname-he5je
@Noname-he5je 3 года назад
are you using pre-amps or is this the raw sound from just the guitar and a regular speaker-amplifier?
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
I'm using a real amp (Bugera G5 infinium) + virtual cab (IR)
@mariusg79
@mariusg79 Год назад
Hi, I have just purchased ST-20 HSS SBK Standard Series, and since the first use, I've noticed that the humbucker pickup is not in fixed position, I mean if I press on it to the right (towards the bridge) , it bounces, if I press to the left (towards the middle pickup) it bounces as well, it does not entirely comes back to the balanced position. It remains a little balanced either towards the bridge or towards the middle pickup. Is that normal or the pickup is not properly mounted?
@DirkGentley42
@DirkGentley42 Год назад
Sound s normal to me. The pickup is only held in place by a single screw each side going through a spring, there will be the possibility of pushing it to one side or the other.
@mariusg79
@mariusg79 Год назад
@@DirkGentley42 Thank you so much, guess I must focus on learning and ignore other "issues" :))))
@DirkGentley42
@DirkGentley42 Год назад
@@mariusg79 That's OK. It is a little unnerving when you first notice it. Being a bit OCD it's annoying that they won't sit exactly parallel to the scratch plate. 😀
@Koijn2K
@Koijn2K 10 месяцев назад
Only real review of this guitar i have seen
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 10 месяцев назад
Thanks !
@iyshakidwai558
@iyshakidwai558 3 года назад
the guitar on the website has a reddish neck and i really dislike but i also really wanna purchase it. How is the neck on your guitar black?
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
On the guitar I have reviewed, the fretboard was black. Since then, it looks like they have changed it and now it's the natural color of the amaranth (kinda purple). So if you buy one now, you'll get that reddish neck.
@andriypodolskyy
@andriypodolskyy 3 года назад
I have one. Very good for me
@shadenshebili1345
@shadenshebili1345 3 года назад
So is it worth it ?
@andriypodolskyy
@andriypodolskyy 3 года назад
@@shadenshebili1345 I’m very happy
@Itzsolidus
@Itzsolidus 2 года назад
I’ve seen a kit for this on Thomann uk is it reliable to order it from there?
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 2 года назад
I guess it is but I let you contact Thomann for details
@jabohonu
@jabohonu 10 месяцев назад
after using the tremolo bar that comes with the guitar, does it keep the tunning?
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 10 месяцев назад
Well, not really ! You should forget about the trem and consider you have a hard tail. Or replace it with a good quality trem if you really want one.
@jabohonu
@jabohonu 10 месяцев назад
@@ToroKchannel thanks I'll consider it
@GNRGNRGNRGNRGNR
@GNRGNRGNRGNRGNR 3 года назад
Is it light or does it have a good amount of weight to it?
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
It's pretty light, 3.1 kgs.
@hkaszowi
@hkaszowi 2 года назад
just ordered the new HB ST 20HHH!
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 2 года назад
I also did :) I will review t on the chan very soon !
@belkocik
@belkocik 3 года назад
Hello, what do you think about Harley Benton DC-580 CH Vintage Series compraring to st20hss? I don't know if it worth to put another 50 euros to dc-580.
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
Hello ! Well I’ve never played the DC-580 so it’s not an easy question to answer. I think the ST-20 could be more comfortable to play especially on the higher frets. The pickups seem very different, the DC 580 comes with some vintage voiced pups that are probably medium / low output.
@belkocik
@belkocik 3 года назад
​@@ToroKchannel Thank you for your reply. I can't make up my mind. There is also Harley Benton DC-200 CH Student Series for 105euros which is the same as dc-580 vintage series? They got 2 Humbuckers so they are better? I am just a beginner so it's difficult to choose when you don't know that stuff ;/
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
2 humbuckers is not better than Humbucker / single / single, it depends upon what you wanna play. So what do you wanna play ? Which groups or guitar players are your influences ?
@belkocik
@belkocik 3 года назад
​@@ToroKchannel I'd like to play metal/rock/hard rock - twisted sister/WASP/Def leppard/Speedwagon.
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
Ok you don't absolutely need a neck humbucker :) So you can go for this one, I think it's a good choice for you according to your influences. These pickups have enough power and it's an easy guitar to play.
@justusrozeveld8313
@justusrozeveld8313 3 года назад
What is the first song you played in the demo's
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
You mean when I play in the mix or with the guitar alone ?
@dazkiltlfc
@dazkiltlfc Год назад
Hello mate I’m 39 and want to learn to play , would this be worth buying
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel Год назад
It's a good choice but you might have a bit of work to do on it : fret polishing, fretboard oiling, action and intonation setup. If you can't do it yourself, you will need the help of a luthier and you have to add it to the price you will pay for this axe.
@emerinahmetasevic
@emerinahmetasevic 2 года назад
Is this guitar better than squier affinity?
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 2 года назад
Don’t know, never played a squier affinity.
@mfm6
@mfm6 2 года назад
Do fender strat pickguards fit in these guitars?
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 2 года назад
not sure the shape of Fender's pickguards will be ok and if it is, Fender's pickguards come with holes for 3 pots. Looks like Harley Benton doesn't make pickguards for this HH version, but they should !
@sc0or
@sc0or Год назад
@@ToroKchannel There are dozens of hss and sss pickguards on thomann. Including ones from benton. Did you have time to check them a little bit out? In the reviews people mentioned that some holes might be at different places but overall they can be used with hss20
@kenstogie
@kenstogie 3 года назад
Love he look of that guitar....needs better pups though and intonation sounds off.... nice playing,, the best part of the video!
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
thanks ! As far as intonation goes, I've heard it too afterwards, but on my tuner (Korg) it sounded ok, so I thought my ears were wrong. But it might come from the wood too.
@stealthbum34
@stealthbum34 2 года назад
Why are you sending it back for just 89e? Mod it.
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 2 года назад
I've got room for 17 guitars, not more. I've already got 14, and eventhough I find this guitar very interesting, I don't rhink I could make it a very interesting mod project. But it was not a matter of money.
@HU-nx1cs
@HU-nx1cs 2 года назад
hi :) I'm about to learn guitar and wanted to buy this guitar. I've heard most people say that it's best to replace the tuners, but since I know nothing about it... can you please recommend me better tuners that are still cheap (under/around 35 euros if possible)?
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 2 года назад
If you change the tuners for a better tuning stability, you should also change the nut. I recommend you to go for Gotoh tuners like the SG381-07. Be careful with the screw tab angle that must be 45° on this guitar.
@HU-nx1cs
@HU-nx1cs 2 года назад
@@ToroKchannel thank you so much, I'll look into it :)
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 2 года назад
@@HU-nx1cs my pleasure :)
@petrisavero4382
@petrisavero4382 Год назад
Maybe it would sound a little better if you removed the plastic from the pickups...
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel Год назад
I have released this video a long time ago, now. Since then I have reviewed a lot of other guitars and as you know, they generally come with plastics on the pickups. I have tried them with the plastic and without the plastic. I have done some recordings, just to make sure... And, well, those very thin pieces of plastic do not affect the tone at all. Maybe it could happen if the plastic was thicker. Try by yourself next time you buy a brand new axe :)
@xctwowheels1973
@xctwowheels1973 3 года назад
Please note: there is a plastic film on the pickguard!
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
I know :) but some scratches were deep, certainly deeper than the plastic film eventhough I haven’t removed it.
@xctwowheels1973
@xctwowheels1973 3 года назад
@@ToroKchannel Not great, from Thomann!
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
Not great but on such a cheap guitar I guess they let a few flaws pass through the QC.
@xctwowheels1973
@xctwowheels1973 3 года назад
@@ToroKchannel For sure!
@BAXTERPEING
@BAXTERPEING 2 года назад
Yamaha Pacífica 012,opinión plis.🤘🤘🤘
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 2 года назад
Never tried
@DirkGentley42
@DirkGentley42 Год назад
Good choice. Go for the 112v if you can afford it. Many seasoned musicians still have and enjoy playing the Pacifica they started with.
@azpestsolutions
@azpestsolutions 3 года назад
Take the plastic off the pick guard!
@ToroKchannel
@ToroKchannel 3 года назад
I did well explaining in a comment the reasons why I have left this plastic !
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