Harley-Davidson's big mistake! 

I agree with you, somewhat. But HD makes those decisions based off sales. Most sub $20k buyers go used and get a lot more bike with very low miles.

@@freebehindbars8654 Yes its all about $$$...And thats where i part ways....Am out to get the Best deal i can....And that includes parts...service...and all the freebies i can

Not enough profit for....greed!

Stereos on an HD just mask the sound of the real music coming from the pipes

I have a neighbor with a big full dress Harley with loud pipes on it, and a blasting stereo that has to be turned up loud to hear it over the loud pipes, because otherwise every person for a 1/4 mile radius might not be aware that the bike has a stereo and we might miss out on all that fun. And I dare not even hint at the silliness, no no no, because somebody might be offended, can't have that.

i do.

I never got the radio thing on a Harley either

I love listening to Seger and riding in the country! Puts me in a good state of mind. I always turn it down a little when I'm around a bunch of people or in town. I try and be respectful unlike some yahoos

Thanks! 👍

I like how the Pro Harley to the Core fanboys have run out of excuses for the brand. For a brand that loves to cry about losing money and blaming young adults for their lack of purchase, Harley does everything to not put bikes out onto the market that might at least get them a starter bike that they will later look to move up from.

​@thespadestable nah, I only ride Harley exclusively, I just don't like other bikes. Just srent up to snuff, however....... I love the bikes, the bikes are great, the company..... not so much. Willie G is one of the worst things thay could have happened to Harley. It's fine have all the high end bikes great. I have no issues with rising aids and stereos. Especially if you're regularly riding accross country or taking constant 150-500 mole trips in a single day. It gets tiring without SOMETHING, which us why I bought a Helmet with Bluetooth so I can listen to tunew, however they need to keep the other bikes as well. Keep what sells, don't force people into stuff they don't want. Only thing I will say Harley has done right as a company is to keep the V-Twin and develope thay further than anyone else has, and to keep the iconic sound. Some of the newer bikes they've come out with and then discontinued before they ever even got off the ground were great. I'd love to get an FXDR but they did away with them quickly.

@@BMStoryTime develop them further? you mean with a throw away crank and plastic engine parts?

Wow, I didn't know HD touring motorcycles are the most maneuverable heavyweight motorcycles money can buy! I guess I'd better junk my Goldwing. I'm so disappointed. I just got it broken in at 150,000 miles and apparently, it's already obsolete. Hopefully a new HD will also have a smoother ride and get more than the measly 250 miles between fuel stops that I currently get. And I'm sure getting tired of being able to buy regular 87 octane, and the laughable 125 mph top speed.

Yea but they got rid of all standard touring but it’s like I’ve said before really the 107 for every day use are weekend you can’t beat it but I’m afraid HD is going in the direction they all are especially with the 24 SG RG because they getting more less than the consumer can control and change

Exactly, it's all based on sales figures and it doesn't make sense to produce what doesn't sell very well. "Blank canvas" models like the base Electra Glide weren't hot sellers for H-D. Really the only guys who bought them in my area were MC club members, the few of them who actually bought brand new bikes. I'm surprised they even kept the Softail Standard for '24.

NOT TRUE, As a former sales manager at HD these aren't big margin bikes and that's why they went away. We sold all of these we could get our hands on...

Seriously a few thousand more how about $10,000 more for the street glide

Are there HD dealers in Europe?

@@terry_willis yes

Have 99 UG and other UG's these bikes are the best and the ride is the best to. Harleys aren't the expensive. The used are very reasonable. Yeah brand new show room bikes aren't cheap. It's not hard to put a radio in a standard or a used police bike. Do anything with them with the aftermarket or harely parts. Ride them all day and not break your back. I'm stripping one down to a SG like bike. I'm getting a 10 yr UG next year to replace the my 99 UG for long hauls. I won't own any other motorcycle. .

Thanks 👍

EVOs are the greatest engine H-D ever made. No worries about catastrophic failure due to cam chain tensioner issues, no injection, simple, basic but great runners

​@@dabsafeI have the 92' flhs

I bought a 24 RG and I'm not liking it that much. It handles good but the clutch is terrible and the navigation system is an absolute travesty

You can stop the regrets. The dealer can't add ABS to a bike that didn't come with ABS from the factory.

The Wing has a 40 degree lean angle. That means despite having a longer wheelbase and rake than H.D. touring bikes, it can turn in 18 ft but you must lean it to it's limits. Then, to go from full lean left to full lean right quickly, as in the figure 8, takes strength and quick reflexes. In addition, the Wing has a very light flywheel. That makes the throttle very sensitive and difficult to modulate.

Good ride..😊

Mine is a 2017 with about 7K miles.

Fr I hardly ever use my SG stereo

Thanks! 👍

I have no problem with the stock H.D. 13'' shocks. But if you have the money to spend, Legend or Ohlyn.

@@motorman857 thanks for you response

Well, I'm a cool guy so the heat doesn't bother me.

@@motorman857 Funny one…..lol.

Been looking at DK products, what did you put on your bike?

​@@stacysid2 for our 05 Road King we purchased shocks and floorboard extender kit from DK. Good products and excellent service.

That's usually said by people who've never ridden a H.D. or, want one but can't afford it.

@@motorman857 that is true and unfortunate. Older Harleys can be affordable, infinitely repairable and make a fun, reliable bike.

I was wondering what you were focused on. Now I know.

@@motorman857 I meant Harley is only focused on super expensive fully optioned out bikes. I prefer less being and value for my money like the one in your article.

No idea, BUT, it will carry 2 cases of beer ;)

Yep, not to mention, the potential for big problems, especially as the bike ages. And sooner or later HD is liable to tell you "Too bad, So sad" a few years down the road. When it ages.

Nailed it. They're consumers, not motorcyclists.

I have one with a bell, but none with whistles, lol