Harsh Corporate Reality : Performance Improvement Plan | PIP | Misused to fire employees 

Wouldnt totally agree with you. There people who have it in them to run their own work others do not. So it depends on the person. Moreover its sometimes more economically better for a person to work for big orgs. Each of the salaried division heads of any big company are capable of running their own business. But then they get such high salaries that its does not seem worth running their own business.

@jonron3805 Agree But, what is the percentage of such beneficiaries; have you ever 🤔 thought of it ? Yes, for the elite workforce say less than 10 percent of the overall ; your concept may well apply...!

@@surajpatil6924 Ok let me give you a statistic. 90% startups fail. And this is not just illogical. There is very good reason for this. Its very very different in having skills to execute and implement a project than run a business. Most of the worlds biggest businesses are run by people who may not even have basic low level skills of the product they are manufacturing. So that tells a lot in terms of the difference between a job and entrepreneurship.

@jonron3805 Still agree.. But, the reason of this failure is ; even when people plunge into entrepreneurship; there mindset is still that of a paycheck to paycheck guys...! I started the conversation keeping in view the super longterm perception. People try to accelerate too much; depending on too much funding, diluting equity for no reason, being overconfident in advertising and marketing...etc First thing what I think is important is ; to develop that entrepreneurial mindset. From here the game starts from scratch. If there is really some great opportunity to work on some project for some time with some company ; even when one has spent some years as an entrepreneur; then that is also not a problem. Because, this guy had already cultivated that real world business thinking and knows the intricacies of a lot of aspects related to it. Also, entrepreneurial thinking is not something which is ephemeral; it has the power to evolve and transcend from generation to generation...!

I am working in indusind Bank in sales department used car loan .i have been issued PIP once , and its been 9 months working here and its my first job i am not confirmed employee now , so how much is the maximum amount of PIP's issued in Indusind Bank???

It really does. There is nothing helpful OR productive about telling an employee that they must be flawless otherwise, they risk dismissal.

@@shivarashive It was a German MNC. I’m all sorted now, so don’t want to get into unnecessary drama. After PIP is over, it’s either that they liked how you performed and you will be out of PIP. OR Try to Knitpick some flaws and Fire you or Extend PIP so you again Rot in Hell.

@@joelrionstaves4684 Absolutely. And the worst part is they say ‘you risk dismissal’ without ACTUALLY saying ‘you risk dismissal’ as if we do not understand.

Can they put me in PIP once I resign?

This the Only The Best thing to do. Also note, Shameless HR & ManAger use this PIP tool to retain, by making employee to resign & to know his Offer, and give Counter Offer 👏🏽 👍🏻 Btw, who will accept & retain?? Still few exists, even more Shameless than those HR & ManAger ??😂

@@democracyjusticegod404 retain means

does they provides experience letter or termination letter?

@@krammerd3 yes if you make good terms and mutual understanding and not yell.

Never leave your friend , he's going to save you when aliens attack😂

UNIVERSAL TRUTH is : HR is the Good Boss ManAger is the Bad Boss. In Good Boss Bad Boss Game. *HR's primary & only duty is to protect, pamper & preserve Toxic ManAgers to get Salary.*

Hi friend, can we connect over phone ? I have been given PIP and I have my meeting with my HR and Manager on 10th April. If I could speak to you may be I could get some realistic way of looking at this. Thanks in advance

Bhai if PIP failed then have you received any compensation after PIP failed?

Can they put me in PIP after my resignation?

Which company?

​@@AdityaKumar-zz7dmThere are many...e.g. WipLo, ZFlTC ...

Which Campany you ware part of and I hope the new finding job is going good for you

Is anything mentioned in relieving letter about pip or low performance

@@royalpinto8986 No nothing mentioned in relieving letter.

How did you escape from it ?? If people who got PIP, if they resign immediately will they get experience and receiving letters ?? Please answer..

@biswaMastAadmi could you please answer @kumar-pp9mg question?please?

@@Kumar-pp9mg in my case i was given the threat of a pip from next month, even though my performance is good and my performance review 2 weeks prior was excellent. this was done by HR and the director, my manager was just the middle man in the process. so the moment i got the random negative write up, i put 100% into job searching. you should do the same if you're in a similar position. the company will just make some bullshit excuse to fire you or keep you in the firing line. Those who have been on PIPs are marked by the company (everyone will know of it via office gossip), and even if you pass it, its like the PIP never ends. the atmosphere and conditions will remain exactly the same as being on a PIP even after you pass it. they will block you from lateral moves within the company too, because everyone will have the record that you've been on a PIP best thing to do is put 100% of your time and focus into job searching, and trying to get your job interviews done at times you're not working or (if virtual interviews) trying to get them done during your lunch break or at times when your work load is light and you're not being directly monitored. its preferable to hand in your notice BEFORE you're on a PIP so you leave on your own terms and aren't marked thereafter. but if you're already on a PIP, sign the new job offer before putting in your letter of resignation. That way you're already covered. the PIP is designed to get rid of us, so the management on the receiving side will only be happy to go ahead with the notice period etc. But check your contract around whether you'd be entitled to a notice period while on a PIP, or whether when you hand your resignation they'd just fire you right away without a notice period. In that case, you MUST have the job offer signed with your new company BEFORE handing in the letter of resignation, even if you sign it the same day.

Hi. What's going on then. I'm on the same bucket.

If ur current manager gives u good feedback and If u have valid points and proofs to show u r not underperformer then raise a greivance request(check with HR) how to raise against your previous manager. Fight back and if result it not positive then resign. These things are happening since no one is questioning and simply resigning. If they have 10 points against atleast u can say 5 points to justify. Then resign happily.its upto you how u r going to handle it. All the best.

my situation mate lol

@@batsy941 very irritating right? Esp my side when the teams only are not having so much work I don't know why they saw only me i guess they want me to leave. Last Friday I made a big sale I proved I was productive but when there is no work productivity doesn't arise. But anyway before the end of 30 days i think I will leave rather than they telling me again "" Unproductive ""

@@YeshuatheTruth stay strong thats all i can say. Do whatever is best in your self interest and take care of yourself

but that is tough part of PIP you will have to work hard to save pip incase if you dont get job while serving pip. we cannot study and focus on job search

it depends i saw in persistent they allow employees to serve notice period but in fis they will fire you but give yoy full notice period salary

😂

No

Superb..here i am doing the same thing

Not mandatory you can resign and leave on good terms

What you do now...Plann to new job or stick to this one

But this is opposite for me in my Campany. My performance even it was poor I got promoted and 16% hike as well. This is corporate I can’t understand what happens at what time

but parallely you should have job in hand or any other family member earning le.g your wife. husband, brother etc

Hi bro my frnd is on PIP... he's from 2 months but he has finished the tasks which manager has given Do they still fire? My frnd is from Infosys

​@@saibharathi5960did he got fired from job?

Yes, right after the pip is done....he completed all the tasks still they fired They fired the exp guy who asked for change him to another project The exp guy was pushed into pip and fired him from the company

I guess if the PIP is not successful the company may ask one to quit sooner as per terms of employment. Notice period may not come into picture.

@@careertalkshorts this is mal-practice done by the company. Intension is to terminate the employee

How they terminate?ask for resignation after failing or what. Experience letter mention this?

What is the performance rating you got recently ? Is it met expectations ? or below that ? I mean did they give you good, bad or average rating ? Everything starts from your performance rating

​sr rating nahi mili hai...abhi tak