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Has Football ACTUALLY Got Worse? 

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Comparisons have always been made between teams and players in different generations, but recently, a lot of people have made the claim that footballers have got worse in recent years, and that the game has become less fun, entertaining, and enjoyable.
And yet, the sport has never been more competitive, in terms of the pool of players aiming to become professional, more popular, or more lucrative.
So in this video, HITC Sevens takes a look at the claims, counter-claims, and comparisons, and attempts to figure out whether football really has got worse and what we mean by that, or whether it is all just nostalgia.

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@joshuabean8165
@joshuabean8165 2 месяца назад
Releasing this the day after that utter snooze fest between city and arsenal is great timing
@We_play_games623
@We_play_games623 2 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂
@solarmaru49
@solarmaru49 2 месяца назад
Personally I thought they still looked like the two best teams in the league
@EBGamez1
@EBGamez1 2 месяца назад
169th like :)
@Lilleh__
@Lilleh__ 2 месяца назад
@@solarmaru49 the two best teams in the league w/ their attackers having an off day. Defenders was still great tho.
@fbi578
@fbi578 2 месяца назад
​@@Lilleh__ 8 CBs and 4 DMs were on the field at the same time 😭😭😭
@SilliusSodus
@SilliusSodus 2 месяца назад
So you haven’t gone with the idea of making an all time bald XI? You’ve made an enemy of me Alfie Potts Harmer.
@sechabatheletsane9784
@sechabatheletsane9784 2 месяца назад
Lmfao!!😂😂😂
@waffle.supply
@waffle.supply 2 месяца назад
Alfie of 2020 would've made one
@SamTurtonsamsamsam999
@SamTurtonsamsamsam999 2 месяца назад
@@waffle.supplyno longer the peoples channel
@Samasamuel
@Samasamuel 2 месяца назад
Only if he does all time long hair XI
@Max.Hartmann
@Max.Hartmann 2 месяца назад
Zidane, Charlton, Leboeuf, Robben, Stam, Gravesen, Kompany, Vially, Cambiasso, Zabaleta. Goalkeeper: Barthez Referee and most bald of all: Collina
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 2 месяца назад
Those 2006 squads... damn.
@RoodBull_SAMA
@RoodBull_SAMA 2 месяца назад
CRAZY TIMES. mid table teams would clap your cheeks if you were caught lacking 😂.
@uriustosh
@uriustosh 2 месяца назад
Slower, less fit, less developed than current generation.
@lenneth1188
@lenneth1188 2 месяца назад
most of those players would struggle against mid table teams in the prem today
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 2 месяца назад
@@lenneth1188 Just to make clear, I meant the international squads at the 2006 World Cup.
@jayzretrogaminz17
@jayzretrogaminz17 2 месяца назад
​@@lenneth1188goid joke
@prowsy8825
@prowsy8825 2 месяца назад
Football has probably improved in terms of quality but has gone down the shitter in terms of being a spectacle
@Goriaas
@Goriaas 2 месяца назад
Maybe in terms of athletic ability and tactical efficiency. Which means modern teams would most likely beat teams from back then. But football is meant to be a spectator sport so it has gone down in quality.
@evanclp514
@evanclp514 2 месяца назад
the average player is more talented, but the top players not so much.
@stefan5730
@stefan5730 2 месяца назад
Is it just me or we barely see any free kick or longe range goals nowdays, while before those were regular?
@rootsoriginal415
@rootsoriginal415 2 месяца назад
@@stefan5730 Juninho 🙌🙌. Now that guy was gifted.
@PresenterSimon1994
@PresenterSimon1994 2 месяца назад
I think individual talent, Passion and fighting spirit has decreased in today's football, but tactically today's football is better
@soulfulcabbage7616
@soulfulcabbage7616 2 месяца назад
VAR being scapegoated is ironic. It just exposed how bad the referees are. Back then, there was so many bad calls and the same people who used to cry about those decisions will be the same ones who hate VAR. Refereeing needs a huge overhaul.
@ST-tf4sq
@ST-tf4sq 2 месяца назад
VAR started when both Messi and Ronaldo were on the edge of their prime, thing is, all of Barca and Real UCL wins, also copa america being like every 3 months and WC 2022 in Qatar, all of that was a clear push for the biggest stars to get their trophies. every year there is some match that is questionable referee calls...
@power279
@power279 2 месяца назад
​@@ST-tf4sqyeah..copa America every 3 month..sure mate.. keep on being salty
@tmax959
@tmax959 2 месяца назад
I would say players have become better tactically and become efficient , however the reason why people think old is better than new because of How open ended games used to be, now most games are very tactical and cagey
@LiftandCoa
@LiftandCoa 2 месяца назад
As someone watching both regional and top flight football i can say you this: No. VAR makes the game worse. You also can accept a bad call way better when there isnt a second referee using 5 minutes of our time and modern technology withseveral replays and angles and still make a bad call. The fact that people stay quite after a goal when there is even the slightest chance of something, somewhere, maybe, possibly wrong 5 minutes earlier is a death sentence. Either copy it from the sports that know how to do it (eg everyone else), including imposing a strict timelimit and assess the quality of refereeing or let it be. But since football officials are unable to not want to reinvent the wheel our best shot is getting rid of it.
@RW-nr6bh
@RW-nr6bh 2 месяца назад
​​@@LiftandCoaAccepting a bad call better without VAR? Nearly 38 years and Peter Shilton still can't accept a bad call without VAR...
@stalfithrildi5366
@stalfithrildi5366 2 месяца назад
Are we still saying that Cantona's press conference wasn't an obvious dig at the reporters, who all joined together to pretend to be stupid rather than understand.
@stealthiscool
@stealthiscool 2 месяца назад
I genuinely think the English press back then were just that stupid
@clarenceonyekwere5428
@clarenceonyekwere5428 2 месяца назад
Yeah, that conference statement sounded very clear
@TheEyeball37
@TheEyeball37 2 месяца назад
Excuse me? Then tell me what it was they understood that I don't if you think you know what he was saying.
@LucifersLandLord
@LucifersLandLord 2 месяца назад
The idea is that the press reporters are seagulls waiting for him to throw them metaphorical sardines, which he wasnt going to do. It's hard to know if that was intentional, but it makes sense. There is an irony in that his seagull speech was a massive news story though. @@TheEyeball37
@pdfarrelly
@pdfarrelly 2 месяца назад
Watching city win things is about as satisfying and authentic as watching a computer winning a chess match. Soulless and boring. That's not even counting the off field stuff.
@veteranhenrymworia
@veteranhenrymworia 2 месяца назад
“Nobody would suggest that Man city and Pep are getting the best out of Guardiola” got me laughing so hard. Name's Guardiola. Jack Guardiola. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 14:06
@IAmTbang96
@IAmTbang96 2 месяца назад
Came to comment this myself. Had to run it back because I thought I was tripping. 🤣
@RespecTheLevYT
@RespecTheLevYT 2 месяца назад
Guardiola at Villa Park 💀💀💀
@stryk3r360
@stryk3r360 2 месяца назад
i just heard that and lost it 😂😂
@boredperson8x
@boredperson8x 2 месяца назад
You will probably see this video in 1-4 weeks now lol good stuff
@kiambotebbonikay
@kiambotebbonikay Месяц назад
Jack Guardiola 😅
@agentk1073
@agentk1073 2 месяца назад
Football certainly feels less fun than it did 10-15 years ago. The days of watching Ronaldinho tearing up the pitch and pulling off audacious skills and tricks in matches have long gone. Now that the money has gotten silly in the game and that VAR has now become a cliche of a talking point, it feels like we arnt actually talking about football anymore but the circumstances in which the game is played. Money, transfers and VAR have become a distraction to how we watch football now
@SuperFilthiest
@SuperFilthiest 2 месяца назад
I mean he was the greatest
@bundesautobahn7
@bundesautobahn7 2 месяца назад
Well, now Ronaldinho has overshadowed his football career in retirement after trying to circumvent a travel ban (his Spanish and Brazilian passports were confiscated for tax offences) by travelling with a fake Paraguayan passport to Paraguay. He sat 5 months in prison and house arrest for it, and IMO should have been convicted for it. But I guess "Rules for thee but not for me" does work because he was allowed to leave Paraguay completely unscathed. And THAT is not an April Fools Joke.
@201hours8
@201hours8 2 месяца назад
​@@bundesautobahn7Blud NOBODY thinks about his controversies before his actual quality 😐
@zoltancsenyi8264
@zoltancsenyi8264 2 месяца назад
Sorry mate but we have to go back 20 years to see Ronaldinho still in his prime. 15 years ago was 2009 😱
@Jout8-re1ij
@Jout8-re1ij 2 месяца назад
Who talks about the circumstances football is played in. People who are passionate about football still talk about the football games somewhat. Money and tranfers should not distract you between football game, when that would be weird, if it did distract you.😂
@harveyholmes9533
@harveyholmes9533 2 месяца назад
The trend towards ever increasing efficiency in football reminds me oddly of the popularity of Backgammon. It’s been around for millennia but backgammon became really popular for gambling in the 1960s and 70s because they added a ‘doubling cube’ which meant either player could double the amount of money they were playing for at any time and the other player either has to accept the new stakes or concede the game. This made it incredibly popular in high stakes culture because any game was a few doubles away from being contested for outrageous amounts of money. There were huge world championship tournaments held in luxury resorts in the Caribbean with massive prize money, it’s also why it appears in the James Bond film Octopussy in 1983. What ended up killing backgammon though is once these tournaments started having huge financial incentives people took the time to create backgammon strategies that gave you the best statistical likelihood of winning. The games became predictable and formulaic and as these new strategist dominated, the loss of the unpredictability that brought it to prominence made the super independently wealthy fans lose interest. In turn the money being pumped into the tournaments dried up and so even the strategists left because it wasn’t a viable money making game anymore and now there is basically no such thing as a high stakes backgammon scene and there probably won’t be ever again. All that’s to say if football really is becoming more boring because of increasing efficiency, if it becomes a ‘solved’ game where we know what the best way to achieve success tactically will that drive fans away? And if it will how do you fix it or return to a more entertaining product?
@lesbo37
@lesbo37 2 месяца назад
Backgammon was not on my bingo card of anticipated responses. Kudos to you good sir.
@raprice79
@raprice79 2 месяца назад
​@@lesbo37 if Alfie made a video about high-stakes backgammon it would be AMAZING! Brilliant comment by the op!
@corbing7786
@corbing7786 2 месяца назад
This is what's happening to baseball now its been effiencied down to the 3 true outcomes of walk strikeout or home run. It sucks but you can't really help modern analytics.
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 2 месяца назад
@@corbing7786 Juiced balls and perfectly groomed fields have a lot to do with that The 3 outcomes becomes less viable if the home runs become long fly balls and bunts and slow grounders become an adventure to field
@bbjoy763
@bbjoy763 2 месяца назад
Very interesting to read, my only hope is that while we feel close to a solved game of fitness and positional play, there will still be tactical geniuses waiting in the wings ready to reinvent peak football.
@mikeysyke
@mikeysyke 2 месяца назад
Football did peak in 2006, great unique players, exciting games, even when it comes to console games, the great Pro Evolution 6 came out in 2006. I never knew how good I had it. Had I known I would have appreciated that time even more.
@marko39383
@marko39383 2 месяца назад
Nah, our youth peaked in 2006...I barely watch any football now, but I mostly blame my age
@mikeysyke
@mikeysyke 2 месяца назад
I was still 25/26 around that time, yeah I’m an old grumpy man now 😅😂
@Lukemasonmedia
@Lukemasonmedia 2 месяца назад
@@marko39383 your age is a shitty excuse , there’s 80 year olds that go to every match
@mohmmadnabeehasan4672
@mohmmadnabeehasan4672 2 месяца назад
​@@Lukemasonmedia and waste their time and money watching a corporate dance.
@thespeculum785
@thespeculum785 2 месяца назад
@@mohmmadnabeehasan4672 But they’re not miserable and bitter like yourself.
@craigratio
@craigratio 2 месяца назад
Football has become pretty boring. They’ve been saying it for decades but money really has ruined football. Every player is a robot nowadays. Very rarely does something spectacular happen. Just teams passing it about 30 yards out until they lose the ball. Man City’s centre backs are just there to stop counter attacks. They do most of their defending on the halfway line. Bland domination. I miss players who just took a shot on whenever they could. You don’t get players like Bergkamp or Berbatov these days. Guys who thought outside the box and did the unexpected, Cantona, even Tony Yeboah. Nobody breaks the mould nowadays.
@SR-ro1bm
@SR-ro1bm 2 месяца назад
I think that the players in the past had more "specialized" traits and characters that gave you some sort of feeling that you can attach them with. Vidic, Edgar Davids, Gattuso, Roy Keane, Pirlo, Beckham, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Inzaghi, Crouch. All very different players with special traits and trademarks. Players nowadays have a more well rounded game which can makes them feel less "special" and unique. That could be a reason why the game seems more boring.
@wingedhussar1453
@wingedhussar1453 2 месяца назад
More like back then squads coaches gave their players more freedom to do what they wanted compared to today where you can't do what u want
@thomascarlton82
@thomascarlton82 Месяц назад
Its the age of the internet, their are no secrets. In the past you needed to find someone that spent their days studying cwrtain tactics and revealing strategies. Nowadays their are no secrets so you cant get away with w6you could in the past. Just how all industries have affected, look at music. Everyone sounds the same, in my youth we had so many different sounding rappers and artists it was amazing
@dog4life56
@dog4life56 Месяц назад
Agreed but i would put Edgar Davids out of that list tho, as he was a kinda well rounded player, probably one of the most well rounded of his generation. It's true that he was mostly known for his aggressive defense but he also got skills (unlike Gattuso). He gave the best as a cm but he also used to play winger early in his career, he was a good dribbler , could carry the ball up the field and had a deadly long shot too.
@anthtan
@anthtan 8 дней назад
It’s rare to have real dribblers now. I can only think of Mitoma. And he uses his pace a lot, rather than feints.
@AFCAglory
@AFCAglory 2 месяца назад
Ah yes, the dirtiest game in fifa history🇳🇱🇵🇹..all I remember is my dad yelling at the tv almost every minute or two, he was cussing out every player besides the keepers...what a horrendous game. And we lost as well. And 13 years later, we lost to portugal 1-0 again in nations league final. Portugal is Oranje's boogey team.
@octavianpopescu4776
@octavianpopescu4776 2 месяца назад
You should look up a match Chile - Italy at the 1962 World Cup. The battle of Santiago. They have karate kicks, boxing, rugby tackles, a player removed from the pitch by the police. There's a video I'd recommend "Italy v Chile World Cup 1962 The Battle of Santiago" from a channel called broodje80. It has the reporter at the start questioning whether the World Cup can survive that match, calling it "the most stupid, disgusting exhibition of football in history". So... check it out! 😀
@jammybizzle666
@jammybizzle666 2 месяца назад
Every team is a Dutch bogey team
@hiranom20
@hiranom20 2 месяца назад
Holland also lost to Portugal on three other occassions that were significant: In late 2000, they lost 2-0 at home to Portugal in Wcup qualifying which proved decisive. They lost 2-1 in the Euro 2004 semi-final, and then 2-1 again at Euro 2012 in the group stage.
@AFCAglory
@AFCAglory 2 месяца назад
@@jammybizzle666 cap
@AFCAglory
@AFCAglory 2 месяца назад
@@hiranom20 the pain..
@findbinnu
@findbinnu 2 месяца назад
Watching the Man City vs Arsenal fixture yesterday, it brought to mind a chess match between two Grandmasters, rather than a game of football. The resulting stalemate was the perfect expression of this corporate control masquerading as football.
@arjunghanekar6140
@arjunghanekar6140 2 месяца назад
Acting as if there weren't 0-0's back in the day
@rohithraman6488
@rohithraman6488 2 месяца назад
@@arjunghanekar6140 Serie A at its peak had so many 0-0's and 1-0's yet no one was complaining like people are now lol
@aze4964
@aze4964 2 месяца назад
yea man there were no 0-0s or 1-0s in the prime of Serie A. nostaliga merchants are my least favorite brand of football fans
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 2 месяца назад
Shades of Spain-Russia in the 2018 World Cup
@Cream147player
@Cream147player 2 месяца назад
The Liverpool - Man City game last month was very good though, end to end and enjoyable. And as long as I’ve watched football, there have been good games and there have been bad games. The reality is yesterday we had two teams who were scared to lose, that has always happened too.
@davidriley354
@davidriley354 2 месяца назад
Do we still not understand what Cantona was talking about in that interview! As a man that's seen Gladiator many times, I look back and take Cantona to simply mean "Are you not entertained?" The media followed him and hounded him for years, waiting for his customary moment of madness to arrive. It arrived. Why is everyone so shocked?
@F1Krazy
@F1Krazy 2 месяца назад
It's pretty obvious that Cantona is the trawler and the media are the seagulls. My interpretation was always that it was Cantona's way of saying, "You're only here to try and goad me into another controversy. I'm not going to give you that satisfaction. Goodbye."
@stillsober19
@stillsober19 2 месяца назад
The hype leading up to the 06 World Cup was incredible. The Joga Bonito campaign with Cantona and the Brazil team… everything was just hype. I miss the old Brazil
@maseratimitch531
@maseratimitch531 23 дня назад
Yeah and Brazil hasn’t won in what will be 24-25 years by next WC. All that hype and posturing only to get smoked….that’s really what lead to the shift
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 20 дней назад
@@maseratimitch531 Brazil didn't get "smoked", you clown; it was just 1-0 to France (the finalists!) in the quarter finals. Bet you love an embellishment
@Pyrrha_Nikos
@Pyrrha_Nikos 2 месяца назад
If a manager is the first man sacked for poor results, it makes perfect sense that they would impose strategies that get results first. Contrary to popular belief, football is a professional sport, and as such winning tends to come before entertainment.
@FullyOnVolks
@FullyOnVolks 2 месяца назад
That was not always true. Entertainment came first before there was this much money and financial stakes in the sport.
@abasi-iyanga-owoutuk1250
@abasi-iyanga-owoutuk1250 2 месяца назад
Funny how no one ever thinks about this. Coaches get sacked if they don't win. Obvious remedy is to create a system to get the players to win.
@ChepeFlo
@ChepeFlo 2 месяца назад
And let’s not forget that players are getting paid to do their job on the field. Part of that, is to do what their boss tells them to do. Freedom on the pitch is not given or earned, it is a privilege and coaches will only allow it as long as it fits within their philosophy and system. The rate at which your creative freedom on the pitch is allowed will depend on the high percentage of its output.
@diablejambe3460
@diablejambe3460 2 месяца назад
Robben said that had he been trained at a team like ajax, he wouldnt have become the player he was. They have a system and all r drilled into it, meaning robbens way of playing wouldve been drilled out of him. Players now r better athletes, more technically sound and understand tactics better, though i think thats just due to when they were born and not cuz they r actually better. However, most players now grow up in a system or have coaches who dont allow for individuality to shine through cuz well, the system is the most important part. Its why we dont see as many long range goals anymore, cuz statistically speaking, those r not as good a shot as one inside the box. Ive heard stories of youth team coaches (and pro coaches) giving their players shit for scoring from outside during training cuz its not "a good shot". Ribery said once that during a game, guardiola kept shouting what to do at him and he thought "damn, just let me play the game". Of course guardiola is a top coach, but that just shows the point of "system above everything else".
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 Месяц назад
Je ne suis pas d'accord, la qualité technique de footballeurs à baisser.
@harveyholmes9533
@harveyholmes9533 2 месяца назад
It’s quite interesting how much regard Pep has for a coach like Bielsa if you view their styles as differing between creating or controlling the levels of chaos within the game. Bielsa’s Leeds at their best in the premier league were basically chaos machines sometimes turning games in to farces and yet Guardiola has never ending praise for Bielsa. I think this just goes to show even the bald fraud despises the monster he has helped create.
@drs-xj3pb
@drs-xj3pb 2 месяца назад
Bielsa favors high-pressing, short-passing possession-based teams playing out of a fluid 3-4-3 or 4-3-3 formation. His training is high-intensity repetition of basic situations, such that no situation faced in a game will be entirely novel, allowing players to improvise within a fixed system. This is essentially an extension of the Michels-Cruyff system from Ajax and Barcelona (though Bielsa developed it from Argentine sources). It surprises me not one bit that Guardiola esteems him so. Other followers of Bielsa: Mauricio Pocchetino, Jorge Sampaoli, Tata Martinez, and Diego Simeone (though Simeone is far more defensive-minded than the others). Bielsa's downfall has always been the exhaustion of his team at the end of a season due to the intensity of his training and playing styles (usually with a small squad) -- and this you can definitely see with his Leeds teams. "If players were not human," he is said to have said, "I would never lose."
@NihilistCrab
@NihilistCrab 2 месяца назад
@@drs-xj3pb I agree, it's not surprising as Bielsa's Leeds were build on a mix of high fitness levels and being exceptionally well drilled on certain movements and passes - for example there were a lot of very similar goals scored in terms of the patterns of play that led to them. While it probably looked chaotic to someone who hadn't seen much of them it was extremely well organised but took a lot of calculated risks in the build up play and often shunned the more 'pragmatic' side of the game (e.g. continuing to attack with the same levels of risk rather than slowing the game down to hold onto a narrow lead) That said, I disagree completely on the exhaustion part (at Leeds anyway). Leeds were still going very strongly at the end of the second and third seasons under Bielsa. The year it fell apart was in part due to his insistence on having a small squad mixed with very inadequate PL recruitment from the DoF (outside of one or two exceptions). That and an injury crisis which saw them having a squad of about 9 fit senior players at one point and a bench in at least one match consisting entirely of a bunch of extremely inexperienced young players (the oldest being 21, the youngest being a 15 year old) who are now mostly league 1- national league players. You could point to the injury crisis as an example of exhaustion, but I don't think that's entirely fair as iirc it was the newer signings who were often the ones most frequently out injured alongside players with lingering issues from previous injuries. It was more the importance and positions of the injured players that caused problems; 3 CB's, 1 LB and 2 ST's, which exposed the lack of depth in other areas too with a lot of the squad having to play out of position to cover for absences (e.g Ayling at CB and Dan James as a striker), not fully fit when playing (Bamford, Rodrigo, Firpo) or simply not good enough for the premier league at that point in their career.
@gibbygoldfisch7012
@gibbygoldfisch7012 2 месяца назад
You're bang on with how universal things have become; there used to be a lot more clashes of style between countries, if not between teams and managers. Now it feels like everyone's trying to copy the same systems and same philosophies. I reckon social media and familiarity with other leagues has played a big role with that.
@FullyOnVolks
@FullyOnVolks 2 месяца назад
Yep. Same thing is happening in the actual world as well with every western country following in the steps of America (again, due to social media). Globalisation. Honestly reminds me of in the Bible when it speaks about how the “whole world” will all come to be doing the exact same things.
@jackson711247
@jackson711247 2 месяца назад
Yes I used to watch certain leagues play to see the different styles of play but now it just seems like I'm watching the same thing with a different name.
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 2 месяца назад
Chiellini said a few years ago how Italy had lost its style trying to copy Spain and Guardiola. Instead of realising the veracity of what he said, people mostly vented against him. Italy were much better when they played their fierce defend and break style.
@michaelhauser6440
@michaelhauser6440 2 месяца назад
Unfortunately everything has gotten universal. The early days of MMA used to be one martial art against another like boxing versus wrestling but now everybody practices the same things. Even cities have lost their own uniqueness. They have the exact same stores and restaurants that you can find anywhere. It’s pretty sad
@dog4life56
@dog4life56 Месяц назад
​​​​@@pritapp788 Was italy really better because of their style of play or they just had better players? I do tend for the second one. Italy couldn't even manage to win a WC in their golden era and played awful football besides having a dream team. They managed to lose a WC besides having Baggio whose probably was the most talented italian player ever. On the other hand , in recent yearrs they were somehow able to win a European cup besides possessin one of the least talented squads ever.
@retrorambles517
@retrorambles517 2 месяца назад
In my opinion We probably have the most athletic and technically gifted players of all time due to sports science and fitness etc But the players have become identical and boring with no spontaneity and need to be told what to do and when to shoot The game also has too much cheating which slows the game down Maybe we should use var to call out diving and we need to start booking diving more
@RoodBull_SAMA
@RoodBull_SAMA 2 месяца назад
Interesting points to ponder 👍🏽.
@paquinraino8180
@paquinraino8180 2 месяца назад
"The game also has too much cheating which slows the game down " Ain't no way you said that like the 00's and 90s didn't have that with the Catenaccio from Italian teams
@rootsoriginal415
@rootsoriginal415 2 месяца назад
Not that I'm disagreeing with you but Brazilians are still physically finished before they reach 30. And as a United fan i'd take the technically gifted Anderson or Nani over the more physically gifted Anthony if that guy even excels at anything. Carrick vs Mctominay - Skill vs Physicality. Dutch football from the 90's vs today. Sure they are fitter but my gawd total football was legendary. Sports science doesn't increase player skill and only benefits super disciplined players like Ronaldo or Ibra but you could argue that they are genetically superior to begin with. Didn't help Rooney. Neymar has also left the building.
@maciejbala477
@maciejbala477 2 месяца назад
@@paquinraino8180 yeah the cheating/diving is a major issue which i am dumbfounded there isnt done anything about. But it's always been like this, and has actually been worse before. Still, now that we have VAR, we definitely should focus on improving the referees to the point that they can use it to the fullest extent and go harsh on things like diving because it ruins the game
@leonthethird7494
@leonthethird7494 2 месяца назад
@@maciejbala477they have, there are cards for diving and time wasting now and there is more time added than ever before
@RoodBull_SAMA
@RoodBull_SAMA 2 месяца назад
It has become very robotic, systematic. Individual brilliance is not cultivated. Any expression of excellent ball control and skill is criticized as showboating and deemed unnecessary even though it's what i like the most about football. When you get dirty tackled as a result they dont always penalize the offense, as if condoning the act as punishment for having great flair. Lots of things going on.
@FullyOnVolks
@FullyOnVolks 2 месяца назад
When Neymar got booked a few years ago for doing skills perfectly illustrates what just said here
@naj_z
@naj_z Месяц назад
I do not really agree. Skills need to be effective. Ronaldinho for example was showing off while being effective and its the greatest thing I've ever seen! Richarlison and Anthony do skills for the sake of skills and it's only right to critique it.
@Barbariansdagger
@Barbariansdagger 2 месяца назад
Anyone who watched the abomination of a title contention game of yesterday between City and Arsenal can simply understand that if such game of such high stakes is a snooze fest then football indeed got worse. Everyone wants to hold onto the ball doing f*ck all with it but pass laterally because the other team are a bunch of spineless lizards with their buttocks stuck on the goal line.
@catmeowing4329
@catmeowing4329 2 месяца назад
There has to be a balance here. I may be speaking from a biased point of view, as a teenage football fan, but we can't pretend that the current tactical chess has become a bad idea. Recently i watched an "old school" Premier League game from the 90's and i was WIDELY surprised by the lack of quality. It was just throwing the ball long all the time, losing turnovers at the most dangerous areas. No... "La Pausa" as they call it now. Just throw, throw, kick, kick and rush. I didn't like it one bit. I mean, are those types of games the ones people are missing? Its one thing to be spineless and not try to attack, another to run like headless chickens for the goals.
@nickyheart
@nickyheart 2 месяца назад
​@@catmeowing4329nostalgia blinds people. we'll look back at games in 30 years from now and be astonished at the lack of proper initiative and positioning too.
@za5528
@za5528 2 месяца назад
That's just nostalgia bias. People complained about elite club football being nothing but "parking the bus" and athleticism all through the 2000s especially in the EPL. A lot of big games in the 2000s were absolute snoozefests, people talked about it constantly back then too. High stakes games like WC and UCL semis and finals used to have a reputation for being guaranteed to be cagey and boring but have been much more exciting lately, the 2018 and 2022 WC finals and SFs were some of the most exciting ever. The 1990, 1994, 2002, 2006, 2010 and 2014 WC finals had 7 total goals between them and 4 red cards (should've been 5 for De Jong). It was 0-0 at full time in 1994, 2010 and 2014. Both the 2018 and 2022 final had more goals than 90/94/06/10/14 finals combined
@JobHans
@JobHans 2 месяца назад
​@@catmeowing4329well yh, same reason why it looks like players like ronaldhino or okocha are no more while it actually isn't true, it's that now you can't make those skills without big risk of losing the ball bc back then they gave so much space
@Barbariansdagger
@Barbariansdagger 2 месяца назад
@@catmeowing4329 Premier League in the 90's was shyte. Serie A and La Liga and maybe even Bundesliga were of superior quality as Premier League as English football was trying to recover from the 5 year European ban that was imposed onto English clubs because of what Liverpool fans did at Heysel.
@japphan
@japphan 2 месяца назад
One important point. For unique styles and identity, we have national teams. This creates an immense anticipation for the big tournaments, that they are, in fact, something else. Instead of the highlight to get to see a game once a week, we get it once every two years. These tournaments get even more special because of the respite form the weekly grind. Let's go Sweden this summer! We have our best offense in decades, and will threaten any team! Oh, wait. We didn't qualify.
@Ese96Agoaye
@Ese96Agoaye 2 месяца назад
28:41 "Too much of anything can make you sick. Even the good can be a curse" - Cheryl Ann Tweed, Fight For This Love, 2008.
@gentleken7864
@gentleken7864 2 месяца назад
Footballers are athletes now, first. And talent is second. When football was fun you had real ballers with talent. Now, it's just being able to run for 90 minutes without stopping.
@paquinraino8180
@paquinraino8180 2 месяца назад
You just saying BS just to say BS, there's still baller nowadays just like in any generation, you might not look at the right place
@stefan5730
@stefan5730 2 месяца назад
The thing that bothers me the most is how the players today suck at shooting the ball. Mbappe literally never scored a free kick in his life, Haaland has like maybe two goals from outside of the box in his career.
@kellifu112
@kellifu112 2 месяца назад
@@paquinraino8180 He watched the whole video and decided to ignore anything that was said.
@skoczek777
@skoczek777 2 месяца назад
​@@stefan5730well, maybe because almost no-one tries to score from direct free-kick nowadays?
@fauberkaupfmann982
@fauberkaupfmann982 2 месяца назад
​@@paquinraino8180 found the "just look in the right place" guy
@Marcomanexists
@Marcomanexists 2 месяца назад
I wouldn’t say it’s worse quality wise but it’s not as entertaining and there’s less variety. There’s less space available in games than ever before because formations & players have become so optimized. The game is about structure, denying your opponent the ball and waiting for your chance. Luxury players aren’t needed, positional play is vastly more importantly. Other things I’d add is VAR putting a spotlight on poor refereeing, social media focusing more on the negatives of the sport & the ‘money ball’ approach to building teams that clubs use. Players aren’t signed because they’re exciting, they’re signed because they fit the system.
@bbcmotd
@bbcmotd 2 месяца назад
Maybe I'm old and 30 now but I remember every player from a 2008-09 game between Chelsea and Liverpool but now I have no idea who plays for Milan or Barcelona in UCL playoffs other than a couple big names.
@Irishhamsterman
@Irishhamsterman 2 месяца назад
The limited access to football is so true. I remember growing up supporting a neutral team but excited to watch united vs Depotivo on itv in the champsions league as you just didnt have access to the game
@bzilla1090
@bzilla1090 2 месяца назад
That Zidane take isn't too far off though, Zidane was a big game player. In Serie A, during the battle of the Trequartista(10), Baggio, Totti, and Rui Costa were a lot more consistent than Zidane when it came to producing magic week in week out. In Totti's case it was every week up until the injury. Which slowed him a tiny bit, and in Rui's case his love for Benfica which saved Benfica as a club itself. I have no doubt if Rui didn't ask to go to Benfica he would have been part Milan till 2007 if not longer and Benfica's current fortunes would be a lot different. He sacrificed part of his career for the love of his club.
@spacecamel2501
@spacecamel2501 2 месяца назад
It's the same with Riquelme with Villareal, week in week out
@bzilla1090
@bzilla1090 2 месяца назад
@@spacecamel2501 Riquelme is one of the best footballers to ever grace the planet, but English media will have people convinced they had better players lol
@roryduffy3756
@roryduffy3756 2 месяца назад
Basically, flair has completely been coached out of the game by the likes of Arteta & Guardiola.
@aelfricofcedde363
@aelfricofcedde363 2 месяца назад
"Thirty years ago players went out with the fullest license to display their arts and crafts. Today they have to make their contributions to a system. Individuality has to be sublimated to teamwork." Herbert Chapman 1932. The same nonsense has been endlessly regurgitated for at least ninety years.
@valentinshort8910
@valentinshort8910 2 месяца назад
interesting
@michaelbanh4000
@michaelbanh4000 2 месяца назад
Watch Quang Hải - you will be amazed He is one of the few, top class, hyperexpressive ballers in the game - putting his art on the pitch against all top players from Asia and other teams for 8 years and counting. He is the reason why I watch Vietnamese football. Football is not just Premier League
@philip244
@philip244 2 месяца назад
Never heard anyone say this until recently
@L4wr3nc3810
@L4wr3nc3810 2 месяца назад
Wow
@alexblake5264
@alexblake5264 2 месяца назад
You either didn't watch football in the 2000s or you're just saying this to be different
@gunders85
@gunders85 2 месяца назад
2006 was so stacked. Costa Rica had Wanchope, Ecuador Antonio Valencia, Paraguay Roque Santa Cruz, Trinidad & Tobago Dwight Yorke, Ivory Coast Drogba & Yaya, Iran Ali Daei, Mexico Rafa Márquez, Ghana Michael Essien, USA Howard & Dempsey, Croatia Modric, Japan Nakata, Korea Park Ji-sung, Togo Adebayor, Saudi Sami Al-Jaber and Ukraine had Shevchenko. In terms of pure star power and their legacy, on at least a national level, will never be repeated
@ttvikingaming
@ttvikingaming 2 месяца назад
The true star player of Trinidad & Tobago was Latapy, Ironically he hardly played in the world cup because we had to play boring football to survive. His style of play and age would have been a liability. The death of genius in the game.
@gunders85
@gunders85 2 месяца назад
@@ttvikingaming Russell Latapy is someone i only knew by name, so thanks for sharing
@WaltherVonDerVogelweide_1312
@WaltherVonDerVogelweide_1312 2 месяца назад
I personally just love the 70s football, putting on the 1970 world cup semifinal and watch Siggi Held Out of nowhere dribble past four defenders like he is literally Messi and then do a cross that is so bad it looks like he never did a cross before. That is what I associate most with old football, players who are in their strong case world class in every standard but in parts of the game they are not too familiar are like literal amateurs
@segafreak2000
@segafreak2000 2 месяца назад
I absolutely do think it has gotten worse, but mostly because of just how much more money has entered the sport. That period of the mid-00s onwards has absolutely hurt the sport, where a number of things came all together. Investors entering the sport at roughly the same time as both Messi and Ronaldo emerging did a ton of damage in my opinion - prices inflated like crazy while everyone was on the hunt for the next Messi/Ronaldo. And then it stayed at that level before increasing again, which ultimately either priced out certain clubs that were doing decently well before, or forced them into unreliable gambles on the transfer market that ended up badly just to keep up. I hate it, to be honest.
@Tougedrift
@Tougedrift 2 месяца назад
Never thought the person who made the upload of "Unavoidable Battle" I have been listening to for at the very least 8 years would be in one of Alfie's videos. I agree btw
@segafreak2000
@segafreak2000 2 месяца назад
@@Tougedrift Once in a while, I do peek in and leave a comment here, especially considering how long the sport has been a part of my life, haha. Usually when it relates to the Bundesliga or a German player in some shape or form (as a Werder Bremen fan, I really have been feeling that part of being priced out and then forced into risky gambles on the transfer market, as the early 10s have shown. I miss the years during which we got great players like Micoud for dirt cheap...).
@colinodere7222
@colinodere7222 2 месяца назад
Prices got out of hand because of private ownership. Billionaires and countries owning football clubs
@maciejbala477
@maciejbala477 2 месяца назад
@@colinodere7222 yeah. you get more and more clubs which just throw cash at problems, so everyone realizes they can demand more. Can just take a look at Chelsea under Boehly as a prime example and the prices they paid for players lol
@dinoperta3576
@dinoperta3576 2 месяца назад
@@segafreak2000When you said teams who gamble on transfers and end up falling away I immediately thought about Werder Bremen and in your next comment you say you are a Werder fan. Hope Werder can return where it belongs. Micoud,Diego,Ailton,Klose…just wow! Miss when “my” Bayern had Werder as they’re biggest rival and Thomas Schaaf on the bench. So many great memories come across.
@AlesRatzka
@AlesRatzka 2 месяца назад
I started liking football in the early 00s, when there were still many types of players, like the classic playmakers, who didn't have to run much and could just create chances, it was much more about individuality. When I look at football today, it's extremely fast and the pitch is full of athletes, which is also pretty impressive on a different level, but everything is much more predictable due to extreme reliance on systems and flawlessly executed routines. For instance, there was a guy named Pavel Horvath in the Czech Republic who retired just 10 years ago, he was overweight and barely ran, so when he got to play the Champions League and Europa League for Viktoria Plzeň, the opposition would laugh at him for a minute, until he perfectly passed the ball across the pitch and his team would score (for instance, Viktoria won on aggregate 5:0 against Napoli in 2013 and this player was a huge reason for it, even though he looked almost like post-retirement Sneijder). These were the things that made you love the game more, also because it made you (as a kid) feel like you could maybe make it on the professional level. When I look at the game today, it feels like watching perfectly programmed machines with superhuman physical abilities and even as a naive kid, I wouldn't be able to dream about playing on this level, because it feels almost unreal.
@gabrielmorales7208
@gabrielmorales7208 2 месяца назад
Great video! I agree especially with the calendar bit. The worst thing about it for me is the stupid amount of international breaks. Like getting a superstar player injured over a Spain v Georgia that nobody sees is so stupid. Other thing that I hate is the tendency of broadcasting a game like it was a movie. The amount of cameras makes it seem like you have to always be switching them. So the game is happening and the director of camera is glued to the reaction of a fan, or someone in the bench. It's so frustrating.
@simontravers2715
@simontravers2715 Месяц назад
One thing that annoyed me (and this started around 2010-ish) was slo-mo close up facial reactions, especially England during the 🇿🇦 WC. I don’t wanna see every bearded scruff close up shouting something or looking stupid open mouthed dumbfounded all because “Add drama”
@gabrielmorales7208
@gabrielmorales7208 Месяц назад
@@simontravers2715 I think the first question in the job interview for camera director at football broadcasting is "do you like football?" And if the answer is no you are hired. 🤣
@karrr1573
@karrr1573 2 месяца назад
In summary, Sports Analytics has made elite level football boring.
@NkJunior100
@NkJunior100 2 месяца назад
Same with the NBA, wonder which other sport.😂
@ninjalectualx
@ninjalectualx 2 месяца назад
That knowledge is out there though, nothing we can do about it now
@umbela5646
@umbela5646 2 месяца назад
Great video! With everything you said, im very certain that ancelotti is the best manager nowadays. In many interviews he said he doesnt like to restrict his players, even when we talk about their personality. He always backs them up, and encourages them to be theirselfs, even if the whole spanish media is against them.
@Ianmccor
@Ianmccor 2 месяца назад
As an American, the rigid specialization and systems in association football remind me a bit of how analytics have hurt baseball, in particular pitching. It used to be that you would see pitchers save their energy so they could pitch the whole game, the batter could put the ball in play and you'd see if the fielders could get him out. Now with more analytics and specialization in baseball, the fielders are only in the game to hit when their team is on offense and it is up to the pitcher to give maximum effort all of the time and strike everybody out. This means the ball isn't in play as much and managers are substituting pitchers out a few times a game which takes a few minutes each time that happens. This leads to most sports fans feeling that baseball is boring even though like with Pep Guardiola's managing this is how the game has evolved to produce more winning.
@hello-friend990
@hello-friend990 2 месяца назад
I used to watch teams I didn't follow because of how good the players were 20 years ago. Nowadays I'm not even bothered with the Champions League final. Sure it may be nostalgia, but it's mainly because of how average the players have become. I'm talking about forwards who could shoot better, DMs who could hold the ball, attacking midfielders who could pass, central defenders who were crazy consistent and wingbacks who could pass. The current generation is crazy inconsistent. Early 2000s were a special generation and acknowledging that doesn't make you all nostalgic. Look at how rare it is nowadays for teams to fight over a player and fans to wish they played for their team instead
@FullyOnVolks
@FullyOnVolks 2 месяца назад
Facts. The nostalgia argument is dismissive.
@eddiecorado1635
@eddiecorado1635 19 дней назад
It’s not just that we have worse and less entertaining football but also boring tactics and footballers full of fear and that are too afraid to act out on instinct and be who they are. They are now the image of the club instead of the footballer who plays for the club. Absolutely abysmal, and people(online) dislike and thrash individualist in any team all the time. They think in stats and numbers which is embarrassing.
@Bkesal14
@Bkesal14 2 месяца назад
Such an interesting point on highlights and the lack of full games we had access to then vs. now. I hadn't considered that.
@GabrielBarliga
@GabrielBarliga 2 месяца назад
It's a lot like food - it used to be a little more "natural". Now, it's ultraprocessed.
@FullyOnVolks
@FullyOnVolks 2 месяца назад
And gaming, dating, the economy, globalisation etc. People are sick of this new world and rightfully want tradition back.
@Jeff_2x
@Jeff_2x 2 месяца назад
People got realize these systemic approaches these mangers are taking are just more effective to win games instead of the constant unnecessary flair football some players play without being effective while playing that style.
@Growlizing
@Growlizing 2 месяца назад
This. Modern football requires that all players fullfill their role in the system at all times, or your team will lose because of your mistakes. Everyone is good at transitions, so ironing out mistakes is so, so important.
@MegaKapo12
@MegaKapo12 2 месяца назад
Bloody hell I never though back how many ballers 2006 World Cup had.
@deltaws
@deltaws 2 месяца назад
You put into words what I've never been able to verbalize. Players used to feel like mythical beings that only existed on the pitch. Occasionally, you'd see a glimpse of their personality from them in a commercial and it amazing. The Zidane - De Bruyne comparison is great.
@rohitsequeira6023
@rohitsequeira6023 2 месяца назад
I think, Messi and Ronaldo set the bar too high by dominating. That’s why people don’t see as many stars in future world cups compared to 2006 World Cup.
@isaacnewton3514
@isaacnewton3514 2 месяца назад
Very good point
@nyasha_ish
@nyasha_ish 2 месяца назад
33:14 the irony of this video ending becoz Man City vs Arsenal is about start, but it actually fits the ending of the video
@krishnaprem3823
@krishnaprem3823 2 месяца назад
Short answer. Yes. Pep Guardiola ruined football. There are no shot stoppers, no-nonsense defenders or actual forwards now. There are just athletes who know to pass the ball till the end of eternity on both ends of the pitch in every team.
@FullyOnVolks
@FullyOnVolks 2 месяца назад
Absolute 100% facts. The sport has become too mechanical and has kicked out naturalness & soul in the name of stats, probability, and mechanisms. If this football today was the football we grew up watching, we’d have never fallen in love with the sport.
@matthewturner2803
@matthewturner2803 2 месяца назад
Sums up modern football perfectly. It's a borefest.
@crazybrothers5544
@crazybrothers5544 2 месяца назад
Ye but when players don't play like fucking robots people complain bcuz football fans forget its a fucking game its meant to be entertaining at the end if the day winning shouldn't matter (to a certain extent)
@politicallyincorrect2564
@politicallyincorrect2564 2 месяца назад
Pep 😂😂 no way mate, Pep had 12 years or so without a UCL. It is literally impossible to ruin football as a single manager.
@willemtheaspiringneethermit
@willemtheaspiringneethermit Месяц назад
Incredible video, thanks for making this. I think the quality has actually improved, as much as I hate to admit it, but much of the soul has left this beautiful game, and yes 2006 was around the tipping point, although I'd argue it wasn't for another 10-13 years or so up until after Leicester won the League or even Covid when the decline really began. Now, I find more joy in watching domestic cup competitions, especially the FA Cup and the US Open Cup, which unfortunately are starting to change for the worse due administrative purposes, and I still enjoy European Competition as well, notably the Conference League which gives smaller teams a chance to compete where they otherwise would not. I just don't really care for league play anymore.
@cmonman1407
@cmonman1407 2 месяца назад
How much I would give to watch 2006 football again.
@metalfly.
@metalfly. 2 месяца назад
My issue with modern football is more and more team try to play the same way, possession, attacking, pressing. It is a great style that all the successful teams use, but 20 years ago there actually was a variety of styles and philosophies. National and club teams played with distinct identities and personalities. Like how Mourinho’s tactics contrasted sharply with Wenger; SAF and Ancelotti are both man-manager, but one is strict while the other is chill. Nowadays everyone is drilled in the same way on the field, also all the PR and social media concerns kind of neutered the individual personalities, when are we going to get another Vieira vs. Keane style of clash of strong leaders?
@adamfysh-foskett961
@adamfysh-foskett961 2 месяца назад
Good vid, as usual. To add to the nostalgia section, I remember talk in the 90s about how much more robotic and athletic, and less creative, character-filled and fun football had become, compared to, say, the 60s and 70s...
@chrisclee6693
@chrisclee6693 2 месяца назад
It is a very good question. As a so called "lesser club" supporter, I am lucky that I won't fall into the fanboy trap when it comes to club players at international level. Although I will say even if he did leave in the Summer, James Ward-Prowse should be on that plane ahead of Henderson. The only players I see in the current England set up that would get in to the Golden Generation are Bellingham and Kane. I don't see a John Terry or Steven Gerrard in this current crop. That could be nostalgia talking - I'm 35 and I'm old before my time so it's possible - but when I think about it, managers like Guardiola and Klopp (English league bias to be sure) have very much made modern football about team tactics over individual brilliance. It would explain why the flair players like Grealish and Barkley have at times struggled.
@ricaard6959
@ricaard6959 2 месяца назад
IMO the period between 07 and 15 was peak football simply because it wasn't either tactics-driven or individual brilliance, it was both. It should be both managers coaching players to efficiently do their job but also understand that those players are human beings...
@G96Saber
@G96Saber 2 месяца назад
Ward-Prowse should be in every England squad until he retires.
@rootsoriginal415
@rootsoriginal415 2 месяца назад
​@@ricaard6959When Pep went full system mode it killed the need for specialist players. Even deadball specialist since he's always gonna favour the short pass. So 😴
@FullyOnVolks
@FullyOnVolks 2 месяца назад
⁠@@ricaard6959this stuff makes me believe in the bibles end time prophecy 😂 the 07-15 era was so unbelievably blessed that we experienced the best before nwo comes in. See the super league prequel in the new champions league format.
@massey81
@massey81 2 месяца назад
I used to watch 70~80 matches per season. now i dont even watch 10.
@fillphd
@fillphd 2 месяца назад
spot on. great video and very concise
@BIGSHOTTA17
@BIGSHOTTA17 2 месяца назад
Great video as always Alfie. Quick thing though, when you were talking about Saka at 20:18, you used a pic of Tariq Lamptey
@thomasjohnson2862
@thomasjohnson2862 2 месяца назад
Had a question one could ask in one of your Q&A videos, but what are the main factors behind you choosing to do videos about specific topics? Sure, you do the most important most discussed topics, but then there’s also videos on things like the Lithuanian national stadium, the Bulgarian FA corruption and Widzew Łódź. Do you tend to go for topics attracting the most views, or do you find sometimes documenting the niche topics is a better way of building an audience? Makes me think of how the TV channels always broadcast the boring but more lucrative FA Cup ties involving Man United, when there’s so much wasted potential in terms of building an FA Cup audience by not broadcasting ties which are actually interesting.
@YeTism
@YeTism 2 месяца назад
Think I’m just growing out of football now that my generation, the Messi/Ronaldo generation is ending.
@FullyOnVolks
@FullyOnVolks 2 месяца назад
It’s deeper than that the Messi cr7 era is ending. The sport is changing for the worse
@Mhl345
@Mhl345 Месяц назад
Nowadays footballers are grown up kids, whereas there were men on the pitch until the last decade.
@justinajlc
@justinajlc 2 месяца назад
This is so well written, absolutely agree with everything you covered! I think this is the age of Super coaches, not super players. Players are more or less like the coach's chess piece. As someone who started watching football in the 90s, I find myself almost having to re-learn how to enjoy football in recent years. But nowadays I can appreciate the tatical chess game a lot more. And I think if we transport some of the modern players back to the 90s or 00s, they'll be able to impress a lot more on a individual level.
@siphemanana2551
@siphemanana2551 Месяц назад
I feel like it’s the era of billionaires rather than coaches
@GizmoMcs
@GizmoMcs 2 месяца назад
In Portugal there was lot of talks about our youth academies lately turning players into robots and losing the creativity (street soccer like) our players used to have and it seems they been changing it a bit to allow more creativity again and make winning at young age less important than developing the player.
@GreenZime
@GreenZime 2 месяца назад
Footballers haven’t become worse, football has.
@isaaccastro4846
@isaaccastro4846 2 месяца назад
Football as entertainment
@chrissyboy2338
@chrissyboy2338 2 месяца назад
Video idea: ranking the quality of England squads to have been named for each euros - so many golden generations I’m not sure what one to believe
@user-fd3hd3yy3x
@user-fd3hd3yy3x 2 месяца назад
English teams are always overrated.
@TotalitarianDemocrat
@TotalitarianDemocrat 2 месяца назад
​@@user-fd3hd3yy3x How original
@Erredupizer
@Erredupizer 2 месяца назад
For a long time I also have been thinking that 2006 WC was the peak of football in my lifetime but I never actually wondered why. This video sums it up pretty nicely.
@Webby07
@Webby07 2 месяца назад
One thing I can be thankful for is ill never forget seeing Ronaldinho in that Barca/Brazil as a young kid and being mesmorized, Ronaldo in that United shirt and Drogba in that Chelsea shirt. Classic Prem was peak.
@EGReviews
@EGReviews 2 месяца назад
Not just football, everything went downhill after 2006.
@man4437
@man4437 2 месяца назад
I get this is a joke, but it sounds like "everything started being bad when I stopped being a child"
@carlosbarton763
@carlosbarton763 2 месяца назад
​@@man4437That's all it is.
@mrlace4776
@mrlace4776 2 месяца назад
Everything went down hill after 1970
@r9trstvr9trstv71
@r9trstvr9trstv71 2 месяца назад
​@man4437 go watch Brazil from 80s 90s and mid 2000s and watch Brazil now 😅😅
@SeanJepson7
@SeanJepson7 2 месяца назад
@@carlosbarton763 Social Media. It sanitised the world of entertainment generally.
@user-vc1bn1ex5g
@user-vc1bn1ex5g 2 месяца назад
There's a lot of recency bias, but there's also nostalgia bias that plays a part. Sure the 2000s had R9, Zidane, Prime AC Milan, Man United and Real Madrid, but the Man City, Liverpool and Real Madrid of today are also on that level. De Bruyne, Modric, Salah and Kroos have been on similar levels to greats of the past. People were complaining about the same thing in 2006 comparing it to the days of Maradona and teams of the past.
@stefan5730
@stefan5730 2 месяца назад
The thing is that quality was more spread around back in those days. Now you just have Man City, PSG, Bayern and Madrid, even Barcelona isn't that good. Before you Henry in Arsenal, Zidane in Madrid, Ronaldinho in Barcelona etc.
@rootsoriginal415
@rootsoriginal415 2 месяца назад
Sure recency bias exists but I don't remember a single person in the 90's or 2000's saying football had got worse. Not one person. Boxing in the 90's.... No one said it was better in the 1950's. Plus isn't it ironic that most of the modern players you named struggled early in the their careers when they weren't being picked over past greats. Even Modric played nearly 300 games before he even got to Madrid and became the player we love today. Kroo's has been a boss from the very beginning.
@Luckymag-if4dw
@Luckymag-if4dw 2 месяца назад
I mean, Modric and De Bruyne are great but when they are the best players of your generation yes the level has decreased... athletically and tactically it is better and because of that there's less space and time to think so there is less time to show or even invest in your individual quality. Saka is the prime example of that... the modern player, a good technically and athletic winger but with no magic to him in my opinion. Not that I wouldn't love to have him on my team, I would coz he does everything by the manual, protects the ball and all but really for his abilities there's a lack of magic, of taking people on or taking risks. Coz today you are not alloewed to lose the ball 5 or more times so one would only attack in a very favorable situation, otherwise just pass it back. I mean, Salah in my opinion is a bit worse than Figo and no one was claiming he Figo was the best of his generation even if he won a Ballon' dor (don't care much about the award). Across the entire world teams rarely if ever had 80% of the points in a season, a 90 point league season was an absolute gem, nowadays it is necessary to win the league and that's basically because the mid and botton table teams have gotten so much worse, talent is concentrated in fewer squads where their bench players would be starting for the 10th team in the league 20 years ago
@davidej6310
@davidej6310 2 месяца назад
It's true that every generation has their share of nostalgia. But there is a small point to be made about football getting worse. Think of the champions league line up of teams in say between 2000 and 2006. Each team had a rich stock of technically gifted players. As someone pointed out above, the talents were spread out. Today it's concentrated in small teams. Today there is no Man Utd player that can be nominated as the player of the season. No AC milan or Barça player can contend for European player of the year. Gone, it seems, are the days when a Champions League night featured Nedved, Shevchenko, Pirlo, Kaka Trezeguet, Figo, Zidane, Zanetti, Samuel, Maldini, Raul, Henry, Nistelroy, Lampard, Gerrard, Cannavaro, Campbell, Pires, Cole, Ronaldinho, Deco, Seedorf, Makalele, Gattuso,Rivaldo, Ronaldo, Cafu, Nesta, Carlos, Ballack, Rui Costa, etc. Maybe because we watch more games now and watch more clips. But there seemed to be an aura around those people back then that we don't have now.
@Zahrul3
@Zahrul3 2 месяца назад
Quality was more spread around in the 2000s...even "lesser" teams had surprisingly skilled stars like DiNatale. The game back then was much more direct so there were naturally more changes in possession even when the other team was defending for dear life.
@mannytuzo
@mannytuzo 2 месяца назад
Part of it is that in 2006 many of the named stars in the intro were young stars and promises that actually lived up to their hype/expectations. In the following world cups there has been promising players who didn’t fully live up to their hype in their career such has James Rodriguez in the 2014 WC
@FullyOnVolks
@FullyOnVolks 2 месяца назад
Right. You never see young stars really making it anymore. It’s always a player who was in the shadows till he was 21-23 years old who comes onto the scene and is now the best.
@eX1st4132
@eX1st4132 2 месяца назад
​@@FullyOnVolksMbappe, Bellingham, Wirtz, etc. The problem is you don't know which young players will succeed until they already have. There are good young players now who might fizzle out, and others who will live up to expectations, but we don't know who yet.
@kennedyikechukwu3300
@kennedyikechukwu3300 2 месяца назад
My god… being born in 1997 this World Cup was my first World Cup. So much good memories. Especially the Final ⚽️❤️ 😊
@uriustosh
@uriustosh 2 месяца назад
Russia 2018 was better, Brazil 2014 was so much better Qatar was poop
@Username-mn7pc
@Username-mn7pc 2 месяца назад
qatar had the best group stage and knockout games .Its not even a debate@@uriustosh
@salmarham8630
@salmarham8630 2 месяца назад
For sure, your first world cup is always the best! Espana 82 for me 😂❤
@kennedyikechukwu3300
@kennedyikechukwu3300 2 месяца назад
@@uriustosh ehhhh Everyone has their opinions. 2006 Germany was probably the more entertaining to watch due to level of players that were competing at the time. A lot of legends played their last World Cup in 2006.
@desmondachocky537
@desmondachocky537 2 месяца назад
Nah! I think u are the one who has been pooping alot since Dec the 18th event in Qatar.I can easily tell a salty mourner almost 2 yrs on lol! Cope son,we feel ur pain.
@stevec6232
@stevec6232 2 месяца назад
Definitely priority is physical work not technical skill.
@theduck2970
@theduck2970 2 месяца назад
EDIT: Wait, today is April 1st?! Goddammit Alfie!!! I don't think it's the footballers and the actual sport itself that has gotten worse. If anything, the beautiful game is still well.......beautiful. And recent competitions proved that. What got worse is the stuff that happens OFF the field. Everything from the fans to the FIFA governing body to countries trying to use the game to "sportswash" and worst of all, money money MONEY!!! I think everyone is just getting more cynical now because all these stuff feels more on the nose lately and it can suck the fun out of enjoying the sport.
@alexisauld7781
@alexisauld7781 2 месяца назад
"People bringing in politics" eh? Just to remind you, people's existence (and persecution for existing) isn't politics- it's something that has been *politicised* for the sake of attempting to suppress the fact. ;)
@segafreak2000
@segafreak2000 2 месяца назад
Bringing in politics into football has happened for as long as you can think though, lol. It's not a recent thing at all. Why do you think one of the very first world cups went to Italy, for example? Or why Argentina or Spain were allowed to hold one despite dictatorship circumstances in both of these countries at the time (though by the time it happened in Spain, that one had fallen already, more that there was one when they were picked).
@theduck2970
@theduck2970 2 месяца назад
@@alexisauld7781 Not THAT kind of "politics". I'm talking about local and global governance, that kind of politics. What you're talking about is common human decency, which I think shouldn't even need to be debated about whether people of different backgrounds should be allowed to be left alone and be comfortable with who they are. I'm talking about politics like how Saudi is trying to "sports wash" it's contentious history by hosting the World Cup and pretending to be a fully civilized nation.
@theduck2970
@theduck2970 2 месяца назад
@@segafreak2000 I know, that's why I made the point its more on the nose nowadays. Like Saudi hosting an upcoming World Cup.
@TheOscar401
@TheOscar401 2 месяца назад
@alexisauld7781 just to remind you that social issues have always been political in nature
@martinpowell5221
@martinpowell5221 2 месяца назад
This is the best video you have made so far. Loved it!
@VOTE4CHANGE
@VOTE4CHANGE Месяц назад
The fitness levels now is insane now but it has turned into game of running and standing in the right place rather than individual brilliance which has made it boring
@tholav9304
@tholav9304 2 месяца назад
Easy comparison to show between starting strikers in some teams in 2006 and in 2024 (the difference is INSANE) Arsenal : Henry/Havertz (or Jesus) Chelsea : Drogba/Jackson Liverpool : Crouch/Nunez (maybe an improvement) United : Van Nistelrooy/Hojlund Real Madrid : Ronaldo/? (no real striker outside of Joselu) Barcelone : Eto'o/35yo Lewandowski Atlético : Torres/Morata Milan : Shevchenko/37yo Giroud Inter : Adriano/Martinez Juventus : Ibrahimovic or Trezeguet/Vlahovic Bayern : Makaay/Kane (improvement)
@craigfairlie9247
@craigfairlie9247 2 месяца назад
I was 12 during the 2006 World Cup. It was great
@bzilla1090
@bzilla1090 2 месяца назад
The old school approach is returning with some coaches like Inzaghi and Thiago Motta. They play a beautiful brand of football. I spend my entire Saturdays watching football from all leagues, but I've never found myself watching City under Pep out of my own free will if it's not a Champions League KO tie.
@ononsoorizu6556
@ononsoorizu6556 2 месяца назад
I would hire this man for my thesis. Damn you know how to frame and make a balanced argument.
@jackreacher8324
@jackreacher8324 12 дней назад
Anyone who says football was more fun and entertaining in the past, I always tell them to go and watch a full 90mins game from the 90s or 80s, any game they think was the best, and then we talk again!! Of course it will be very nostalgic and fun to watch a one hour highlight from the entire 90 world cup, but you can't watch any game in the full 90 mins before going to sleep after just 10 mins.!!
@YungBaymax
@YungBaymax 2 месяца назад
A new Alfie upload immediately makes my day
@chiragmc8374
@chiragmc8374 2 месяца назад
Alfie, your videos are just perfect . I love how u cover all possible perspectives and don’t try to push any agendas and give very detailed and balanced view . As a Indian the only thing I dislike is the occasional cricket slander 😅. ( the variability of the pitch and types of bowling and skills make it not repetitive, but I get the broad stroke of your opinion ). Absolutely love your vids ❤.
@Dev-qs2yb
@Dev-qs2yb 2 месяца назад
The aggression has gone, like how the players used to be so aggressive towards referee, now we have female referees in men's sports, can't be aggressive towards them or you're apparently EVIL.
@maomao1247
@maomao1247 2 месяца назад
After how boring Arsenal v City was, I’d say it’s gotten worse
@abasudoh7459
@abasudoh7459 2 месяца назад
Lol, I'd take that 0-0 over getting piped by city any day of the week 😂😂😂
@BlueflagAlpha
@BlueflagAlpha 2 месяца назад
Im a City fan and that was a result i would take
@dvdv8197
@dvdv8197 2 месяца назад
That wasn't the point, now was it, ​@@abasudoh7459? 😑
@octavianpopescu4776
@octavianpopescu4776 2 месяца назад
That's just one match. I remember a match when I was younger, in my country's championship, I think it was in 2000 or around that time, it was such a beautiful match in that, absolutely nothing happened, none of the teams had any shots on goal, in fact, I don't remember them having shots towards the goal. 90% of the match was played at the midfield, just slow, lazy passing on a spring day, you could see that the players weren't in the mood... that was it. It was the most uneventful match I've ever seen. So you can't really draw conclusions based on 1 match.
@randomhooman3236
@randomhooman3236 2 месяца назад
@@abasudoh7459 maybe because you are arsenal fan but for neutrals no, city had like 75% possession in the 2nd half and didn't register a single shot on target (only 3 shots taken and hardly any touches in the opposition box) I'm all in for the "technical aspects" of the game to improve football and i know football is not only about goals but there's a sense of excitement when the ball is in the opposition box, football is also about making risky last man tackles, having amazing counterattacks, taking shots and missing them by inches, line breaking through balls but yesterday it was just 2 teams playing too safe take the example of united vs liverpool in the fa cup, it was a complete chaos, after united's 2nd goal there were no tactics those types of games make people love football
@benlowe578
@benlowe578 2 месяца назад
Footballers became too rich and too childish. They don't have the grit to put on a spectacle anymore.
@JohnDoe-km9vx
@JohnDoe-km9vx 2 месяца назад
18:13 Gheorghe Hagi :D Legend this channel gets better and better.
@JohnDoe-km9vx
@JohnDoe-km9vx 2 месяца назад
29:50 Morten Gamst Pedersen at Blackburn, Bolton was amazing to watch back then and the magic of Arsenal vs the more aggressive Manutd.
@FORZAPOTENZA
@FORZAPOTENZA 2 месяца назад
29:10 I was almost certain you were going to play the David Mitchell "Watch the Football" sketch.
@RyuzakiTaiyou
@RyuzakiTaiyou 2 месяца назад
Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 619) I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored. If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.
@gamakujira64e23
@gamakujira64e23 2 месяца назад
We believe in you
@lucaslonchampt613
@lucaslonchampt613 2 месяца назад
Bouyaka Bouyaka! 619!
@lsspongebobfaze5312
@lsspongebobfaze5312 2 месяца назад
We believe in you
@SKa-tt9nm
@SKa-tt9nm 2 месяца назад
Yes! Still going strong!
@maettsook
@maettsook 2 месяца назад
Uwe Rosler?
@jammysau
@jammysau 2 месяца назад
there's a pretty simple answer to this debate - the white collar managerialism that's completely overtaken football (at least the top tiers). i (very regrettably) work in the IT industry, and while people are smarter, tech is better, code's a lot more foolproof than when we were kids, there's no passion. hell, i used to be only vaguely interested in it and now find myself working here only because of the $$$. it's almost the same in football. you have the big 4 (at best, looking at you france) of each country, just like the big 4 in tech (and their analogues in the other countries), and eeeeeveryone else trying to find an angel investment through competing in the top (investment)tiers. the players, like the IT professionals leaving for the US, leave for the top 5 leagues for a paycheck, and spend more of their lives as immigrants than they do at home. and the style of play? man, watching burnley play pep-ball is like asking me to configure and deploy an application, i'm mediocre at best, and even that's an exaggeration, but for the money? i can pretend i'm up there 😂
@abasudoh7459
@abasudoh7459 2 месяца назад
I have no football memory before the 2002 world cup and even at that I only really started following football from the 2006 world cup, so I don't know what football was like. I can't judge based on highlights alone. When I've seen a few full games from the time before it actually was just the same as now.
@TheSourbutts
@TheSourbutts 2 месяца назад
i believe the 2006 world cup is a special moment in time, where the previous generation is not passed their best, along with the emergence of an extremely talented young players who have already established themselves all the the same world cup, im sure 1/5 1/6 world cups is something like this, truly magic, but the 2002 world cup was still better
@gregoriuspascalis500
@gregoriuspascalis500 2 месяца назад
Brazilian national team also suffer from the loss of flair in the game, almost losing that identity
@dellboid
@dellboid 2 месяца назад
When I was a kid in the 90's/ 00's I absolutely loved football. There were so many characters and such a wide range of top footballers with unique play styles/ identities. However now when I watch football it just seems bloated, over analysed, over thought and boring quite frankly. To me most modern footballers are just clones of each other and everything is so tactically efficient its actually taken some of the chaos and soul out of the game. I've always felt for a while and said to a people a few times that my generation had the best time for football.
@globulidoktor1733
@globulidoktor1733 2 месяца назад
skill-wise it improved by worlds, but it's gotten worse for viewers
@m0nty_
@m0nty_ 2 месяца назад
this video has absolutely blown my little brain, you’re absolutely right alfie
@miggygetright6344
@miggygetright6344 2 месяца назад
I went to see Espanyol vs Atletico Madrid at the now StageFront Stadium and fell in love with football all over again, what a game.
@MrDrezzy007
@MrDrezzy007 Месяц назад
Pep guardiola is the sole reason i despise modern football systems, and your jack graelish example is perfect.
@jbbresers
@jbbresers 2 месяца назад
The really spectacular aspects of the game are becoming more and more rare as every team prioritises possession football and maximising xG. P.S. xG being a statistic that people care about is the worst thing to ever happen to football
@user-fd3hd3yy3x
@user-fd3hd3yy3x 2 месяца назад
Why? No way a stat is the worst thing to ever happen to football.
@jbbresers
@jbbresers 2 месяца назад
@@user-fd3hd3yy3x the stat - no The obsession over it - absolutely yes. Quote by Bill Russell: “The only important statistic is the final score.”
@jbbresers
@jbbresers 2 месяца назад
@@user-fd3hd3yy3x I didn't say the stat was the problem, I said the obsession over it was. Just look at the ridiculous nonsense Poch said last week that Chelsea should be 4th because of the statistics. They are 4th on xG but every other stat has them at mid table or worse, it's weapons grade nonsense. To quote Bill Russell: “The only important statistic is the final score.”
@user-fd3hd3yy3x
@user-fd3hd3yy3x 2 месяца назад
@@jbbresers Thats just a coach being delusional.
@RunningRugby4
@RunningRugby4 2 месяца назад
Hit the nail on the head with your comment about amount of games
@gunders85
@gunders85 2 месяца назад
Definitely not only nostalgia. I see a lot of similarities between football and poker in that sense. When i started following the latter in the early 2000s, the game was full of colorful characters and you had the "online kids" with their creative bluffing ways. With the rise of sharing of information online the game has now basically been solved. Elite players no longer think in ways like "does he have it or not?" but play game theory optimal. No table chatter, just a bunch of robots sitting dead still not to give away any body languge. When some sports and games are perfected they simply, for many, lose some of their entertainment value from a poetic/romantic point of view. But miles better, no question
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