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Have Citizen just released the TSUYOSA KILLER?? Full Titanium NJ0180 

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Citizen have just released the Full Titanium Tsuyosa killer, the NJ0180.
Great looking watch but at 429€ it might be priced a bit too expensive.
The specs are there though. Check the video!
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@TheUnrevealer
@TheUnrevealer 3 месяца назад
It is crazy when 429 considered "pricy", but then 6k for moonwatch considered "bang for a buck"
@moralambush
@moralambush 2 месяца назад
That's cuz this thing's got a miyota movement in it.
@TheUnrevealer
@TheUnrevealer 2 месяца назад
@@moralambush like it was way worse than co-axial or eta:)
@moralambush
@moralambush 2 месяца назад
@@TheUnrevealer miyota 8000s are known for rotor wobble & stuttering second hands. Guess which movement is in these citizen watches.
@TheUnrevealer
@TheUnrevealer 2 месяца назад
@@moralambush for the price is more of finishing than movement. At least its not as ridiculous as hublot eta movements fot 15k.
@moralambush
@moralambush 2 месяца назад
​@@TheUnrevealerno real watch collector takes Hublot seriously. That's for rappers & influencers.
@isluderea8322
@isluderea8322 4 месяца назад
Always too big…. Please bring a 38 watch with integrated bracelet
@wongpandai
@wongpandai 3 месяца назад
your wrist too small
@isluderea8322
@isluderea8322 3 месяца назад
@@wongpandai I have a small wrist yes i know. My 36 Explorer and my BB58 are perfect for me. My 41 Sub is also ok because it does not have an integrated bracelet. Therefore, a Citizen or a PRX in 38 are perfect for me
@dibyadipdutta1248
@dibyadipdutta1248 3 месяца назад
They have a 38mm of the same series which is Ecodrive
@isluderea8322
@isluderea8322 3 месяца назад
@@dibyadipdutta1248 i like the look and movement of the tsuyosa not that of the ecodrive
@youngphil8766
@youngphil8766 3 месяца назад
​@@RPE-Official loool lets see your arm big boy. I have above average arms but 36-38mm is still the perfect size. Try one and you will understand.
@devstories-iv1mw
@devstories-iv1mw 4 месяца назад
I wish they released 38 mm version
@SaSpursFan
@SaSpursFan 4 месяца назад
Looks amazing but I wish it was was smaller
@WatchDeggySF
@WatchDeggySF 4 месяца назад
Oh my gosh I hope they make this in a Yellow or Orange dial!! I love this!
@6eth_LM
@6eth_LM 4 месяца назад
I need it in black 🖤
@spicydragon3881
@spicydragon3881 4 месяца назад
I love Citizen and love this one. I was not blown away by the original Tsuyosa, but this is beautiful. My only gripe is I think its a bit over priced. I think I might sit patiently and wait a bit to pick one up on the secondary market.
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
Smart move 👍
@Cinoism
@Cinoism 4 месяца назад
Or just wait til the hype dies down. I'm sure you can pick up from Jomashop or Chrono24 for 20%-30% off after 6 months or so.
@deskdiver
@deskdiver 4 месяца назад
Thank you for exploring this model further. It seems to be a classic example of a trade-off: an impressive exterior with a less remarkable interior.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 4 месяца назад
I love the dial, especially in that colour. Having it be a fully titanium watch as well is great... But I'm with you, they definitely cheaper out on the movement, it deserved a 9000 series.
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
Totally mate, a 9000 here would have allowed a slimmer case, and overall a better proposition
@jaydub9509
@jaydub9509 4 месяца назад
Nice thoughtful review! I agree, including the 9000 series would have made purchasing this watch essentially a no brainer, at least for me. I'm not as concerned with the advertised price, however, as Citizen watches can typically be found at greatly reduced prices on the secondary market, especially once the fervor has died down.
@AckoMunze
@AckoMunze 4 месяца назад
Nobody should ever pay full msrp price for Citizen or Bulova. You can always find them discounted by at least 25% and even up to 50% at Citizen brick and mortar stores, or even online. 100m water resistance, titanium with proven coating, saphire, beautiful design and at 25% off, it is fantastic piece and awesome value!!! My only gripe is the 3Hz movement vs 4Hz smoother sweep, but it is not enough to deter me from buying it as it will last forever no matter what. Way better than Tsuyosa with its 50m water resistance. Thanks for bringing this one to our attention, appreciated!
@hugojrcumbres
@hugojrcumbres 4 месяца назад
Yes I like 4hz watches too. But in small seconds it is less noticeable and power reserve should last longer.
@AckoMunze
@AckoMunze 4 месяца назад
@@hugojrcumbres true!
@thanhnamnguyen5280
@thanhnamnguyen5280 4 месяца назад
@@hugojrcumbresreally think affordable brands should offer more small sec, 3Hz on small sec is just a whole different ball game
@wrenside
@wrenside 4 месяца назад
i really like Bulova and Citizen but they can be very frustrating offering us watches that are a brick shy of a load: they drop a Miyota 8xxx into the watch or the dial is way too big or fill in the blank.
@gregorychoubana6755
@gregorychoubana6755 4 месяца назад
There is also a salmon dial version, which looks lovely, ref NJ0180-80z.
@droid1appmkr
@droid1appmkr 3 месяца назад
Also seen a grey dial with the ref as nj0180-80h.
@frankyz007
@frankyz007 4 месяца назад
Thanks Olivier. It's a very interesting model. Even better then the évolution of thé tsuyosa. The Tissot look, thé green dial IS great. Thé date complication, titanium of course and saphir... I imagine the lume IS not Bad. And 10 ATM IS greater for everyday Wear... It's a really classy élégant but tool watch! A little bit Expensive but for a titanium Citizen it's ok!😊
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
Yes, totally my friend, thank you for you comment 👍
@brentwhite9712
@brentwhite9712 4 месяца назад
Such smart looking watches, I really hope that these are released in my part of the world.
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
🤞
@johanvandersandt8904
@johanvandersandt8904 4 месяца назад
Wow! Look at that! That dial is awesome but the movement should be better at the price! I would not mind the titanium version!
@hochunghing4714
@hochunghing4714 4 месяца назад
I wish it can use miyota 9015 movement
@johanvandersandt8904
@johanvandersandt8904 4 месяца назад
@@hochunghing4714 Thats an awesome movement!
@Joeyb33f
@Joeyb33f 2 месяца назад
the bracelet makes much more sense than the tsuyosa- i never understood the president style integrated bracelet
@panospeter_pan4257
@panospeter_pan4257 4 месяца назад
Im definitely getting the green textured one.dont like the 8 series calibre and the clasp. But the dial and case,are excellent
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
Totally!
@stefpix
@stefpix 4 месяца назад
They finally fixed the bracelet, removed the rounded links that do not match the angular case. It was particularly bad in the Tsuyosa small seconds. And better legibility.
@MrsVanB
@MrsVanB 4 месяца назад
I like this watch! And I’m glad the crown is at the 3 o’clock position!🥳
@mountainhobo
@mountainhobo 4 месяца назад
Why the offset small seconds? What is the point?
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
I would have preferred a symetic design as well
@peterzagorski4316
@peterzagorski4316 4 месяца назад
Price is not an issue, but not being symmetrical is
@AforATY
@AforATY 4 месяца назад
That’s the thing I can’t get over as well 😂
@pierre-yvesp3769
@pierre-yvesp3769 3 месяца назад
In my opinion that's what makes these stand out, and I really love it. To each their own, I guess. 😊
@howyduinyall7653
@howyduinyall7653 3 месяца назад
Troooooooooo
@angelherrera6820
@angelherrera6820 4 месяца назад
What an awesome watch but why are they handicapping this watch with a budget movement? The 8000 series movements are fine movements for budget watches but this watch deserves a 9000 series movement. I really don't understand Citizen or Seiko for that matter. Micro brands and a good amount of aliexpress watch brands are producing better watches for lower prices that have better specs. Anyway, rant over. Still a nice watch. Cheers!
@jcshannon7388
@jcshannon7388 4 месяца назад
I love it! Hopefully they will upgrade it or at least come out with a version with a 9 series. Thanks for the great video.
@spoon072000
@spoon072000 4 месяца назад
Very attractive, but the text is a dealbreaker. You don’t see Rolex putting “Gold” on the dial. Citizen needs to realize sometimes less is more.
@howyduinyall7653
@howyduinyall7653 3 месяца назад
Yeah c’mon zitizen
@RogerSartet007
@RogerSartet007 4 месяца назад
What is it that our Japanese friends have with date windows?? Just as with the Orient Bambino, the only thing wrong with this beautiful piece is that superfluous date window. I agree with your view on the price point. I would place it (considering the movement) in the Bambino tier, 250 €, or $. Anyway, thank you for the, as always, informative video!
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
250 is a bit generous, 350 and I'd have been a happy man. Or the current price point, even 450 with the 9 series
@andyfrizzell4352
@andyfrizzell4352 4 месяца назад
$200- 250 Eco Drive
@jerryjensen6430
@jerryjensen6430 4 месяца назад
Nice dial and titanium case. It’s always a no on 8215. Should be a 9 series.
@hochunghing4714
@hochunghing4714 4 месяца назад
I agree even to pay more.
@hochunghing4714
@hochunghing4714 4 месяца назад
I wise it can use miyota 9 Movement even to pay more
@ender1077
@ender1077 4 месяца назад
What a shame it only has an 8 series movement. Wouldn't buy it even at a low price like this. Would definitely buy one though, if it had a 9 series.
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
Yes, this beauty would have deserved the 9 series...
@howyduinyall7653
@howyduinyall7653 3 месяца назад
9 please
@Moosefelt
@Moosefelt 2 месяца назад
@@Horologique for someone who is new to watches. Why is it so impossible to find some information when googling " Citizen 9000 series"?...
@caktaylor
@caktaylor 4 месяца назад
Negatives be damned! I am going to have this watch.
@williamsipe1151
@williamsipe1151 4 месяца назад
I like it. I think I'll wait a bit and get it for half the price in a year or so.
@asiantimepieces
@asiantimepieces 4 месяца назад
For a second I thought I was watching a VC Overseas 😮 I love the new Citizen GMTs as well but too expensive 🤦🏻‍♂️
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
That's a flattering comparison 😁
@SAMX4949
@SAMX4949 4 месяца назад
which gmts
@asiantimepieces
@asiantimepieces 4 месяца назад
@@SAMX4949 I meant their latest GMT, the 8 series 880.
@joywatson3764
@joywatson3764 4 месяца назад
Great job!
@JagPapi
@JagPapi 4 месяца назад
A very nice watch, there is also a version with Eco-Drive. I really hope that the quality of its workmanship will be high, comparable to the prx. Because in the case of Tsuyosu, the bracelet was tragic, below criticism
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
I very much like the version with the Eco Drive which was released a couple of years back. That one with a 9 series would just have been great 👍
@JagPapi
@JagPapi 4 месяца назад
I've never seen this model with Eco-Drive. Moreover, on Citizen's German website it is described as new model🤔
@slamandjam2
@slamandjam2 4 месяца назад
You didn't like the tsuyosa bracelet? I loved the Rolex day date style personally
@JagPapi
@JagPapi 4 месяца назад
I think the spacing between the links is too large. In the case of such watches, the bracelet is crucial
@RadixRill
@RadixRill 3 месяца назад
Man i wish they beefed up the luxury a bit on this to compete more with a CW12.
@Tangylives
@Tangylives 4 месяца назад
Will probably be on sale for 250-300€ in a few months - I think it's pretty good value once the discounts kick in.
@andyfrizzell4352
@andyfrizzell4352 4 месяца назад
I like this one. Price drop and a blue one will do nicely
@howyduinyall7653
@howyduinyall7653 3 месяца назад
Pure ICE blue pleeze.
@alexanderweber3447
@alexanderweber3447 4 месяца назад
I like the 100m water resistance. The Tsyosa had just 50m
@max.loves.watches
@max.loves.watches 4 месяца назад
Love the design. With the movement and crystal I don't think it's worth the full price, but these should be attainable for much less eventually.
@pierrelauwers8719
@pierrelauwers8719 4 месяца назад
Have a look at the Citizen NH8390-20LE and 03XE....Steel of course, but nearly the same movement, beautiful design AND.....199 euro....
@daveho852
@daveho852 4 месяца назад
this wins hands down at least by the bracelet
@tedblack2415
@tedblack2415 4 месяца назад
Think about it , if Seiko offered this what do you think it'd cost ? bearing in mind you'd still get an equivalent NH variant so in my mind it seems fairly priced . Mind you they're in danger of going into intergrated bracelet overkill across their range but a nice piece nonetheless.
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
I'd cost 800€ to 1500, it's hard to know with Seiko's ridiculous pricing, but certainly over 800
@philliprackow7153
@philliprackow7153 4 месяца назад
Why would they release this so close to the new Tsuyosa? About the price: These are standard Citizen prices. They always come down after a year, my Barnacle diver for example had a suggested Retail-Price of around 900 euros or dollars depending on your currency on release. Bulova belonging to Citizen also had their fairly recent GMT-Release at 1200 at the start, now you can get them between 650 to 780. I wanted to get the blue dial Tsuyosa but am currently waiting on Jody's (From Just One More Watch) new Erebus to see if I wouldn't prefer that as the Blue-Dial piece I wanna buy next.
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
Thank you for your input. As for the Erebus I'll have the chance of reviewing that pretty soon, stay tuned if you want to see it 😁
@JagPapi
@JagPapi 4 месяца назад
Will this Erbus be an integrated bracelet or is it known?
@philliprackow7153
@philliprackow7153 4 месяца назад
@@JagPapi it won't be. From what i can see on the pictures it will be offered on a jubilee and an oyster-style bracelet.
@micaljimenez7381
@micaljimenez7381 4 месяца назад
Seiko have to be realy afraid by citizen strategy,a lot of new design and model nice,afordable,good job
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
Totally agree
@tomlee4064
@tomlee4064 14 дней назад
Die beste Verbesserung gegenüber der Tsuyosa sind die 10 ATM. Ich frage mich bis heute warum Citizen die Tsuyosa nur mit 5 ATM gebaut hat...
@tachillecremonini387
@tachillecremonini387 4 месяца назад
Bellissimi ❤
@gragrn
@gragrn 4 месяца назад
I hope they release a quartz version at half the price like Tissot did.
@pmajois
@pmajois 4 месяца назад
Pourriez- pas refaire cette vidéo en french? ou la traduire en sous titre??? merci
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
Bonjour! Elle sort bientôt en Français courant semaine prochaine 😁
@verynormalman
@verynormalman 4 месяца назад
T4YC. I love Citizen, and I think that the price is reasonable for the movement provided, but the text "automatic" and underneath, "titanium" is not a good piece of design, for what is supposed to be a beautiful watch.
@thebitterfig9903
@thebitterfig9903 4 месяца назад
I just really don’t like offset small seconds complications. I like it at the 6, can maybe accept it elsewhere on a chronograph, but at the 5 for no reason? I just really hate it. I get why someone would like this, and love that for them, but not even close for me.
@user-iv9pv1kt9z
@user-iv9pv1kt9z 3 месяца назад
38mm 欲しいに同感です。パワーリザーブもtuyosaの60時間がいいのに…
@thomasstratford6227
@thomasstratford6227 4 месяца назад
Titanium on the commodities market is going for about $16 a pound….just saying! The watch scams continue unabated!
@WilliamPham-ig7qd
@WilliamPham-ig7qd 3 месяца назад
How would you compare this to the PRX?
@Horologique
@Horologique 3 месяца назад
The PRX has the better movement by far but this one has the better materials and more interesting dial. Hard call
@Logicalillusion
@Logicalillusion 4 месяца назад
So your making a video based on article someone else wrote already? How far is this from adding value?
@Mysteryboy0007
@Mysteryboy0007 2 месяца назад
i like how hes reviewing these watches when he doesnt even have them in person
@turbyoulance
@turbyoulance 4 месяца назад
Nice Edition/s
@turneradam2
@turneradam2 4 месяца назад
citizen is coming for the crown
@enescatal1
@enescatal1 4 месяца назад
With that price, it kills only itself :D :D
@mustangx218
@mustangx218 3 месяца назад
Why are they only releasing these in Europe? You can't even get them in Japan.
@alexschmitt-gk3fx
@alexschmitt-gk3fx 4 месяца назад
Superbe vidéo. Pensez aux français😊
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
Merci ! Ça arrive 😁
@Tom_Kowalczuk
@Tom_Kowalczuk 4 месяца назад
And it lost all it's charm by moving crown to 3 (imho only!). My watches are mostly (except couple of vintage ones) with crown at 4 o'clock and I really prefers it this way.
@IgorGjurovski
@IgorGjurovski 4 месяца назад
100 euro more than I would pay...
@royleow
@royleow 4 месяца назад
Nope not really excited for this. The case could have been made smaller to achieve the smaller lug to lug and the central seconds should be in the centre as well.
@DaFox13
@DaFox13 4 месяца назад
Does it Hack and Hand Wind?
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
Yes of course 😊
@cougarbatterie
@cougarbatterie 20 дней назад
Bon, on dit pas en anglais "claymoring", mais clamoring. Tu prononces le "a" comme en français.
@Horologique
@Horologique 20 дней назад
En anglais UK d'accord, mais en anglais américain, ce vers quoi mon accent tend le plus, le "a" est beacoup plus fermé, comme ce que je prononce 😉
@cougarbatterie
@cougarbatterie 20 дней назад
@@Horologique Sorry mon ami, même au UK ils le prononcent en "a". Nevertheless, your English is good and by far better than most of our fellow Frenchman. Like I stated in a previous comment on another video, you should work on your accent. You'll get there with time. I was in your shoes a couple years back. Fait gaffe aussi à ton intonation. J'ai remarqué que tous les français le font. C'est saccadé, il y a un léger temps de pause et ça appuie au démarrage du mot suivant. Essaye de rester monocorde même si c'est contre intuitive, ça passe mieux comme un pro. Ceux qui présentent le journal télévisé seront une bonne référence pour toi. Voilà assez de conseils. Je serai obligé de te facturer tout ça après😉.
@iwantshinythings
@iwantshinythings 4 месяца назад
Wait a couple months and they will be 250
@TheGaztela
@TheGaztela 4 месяца назад
Bajará de precio
@Horologique
@Horologique 4 месяца назад
🤞
@watchalot919
@watchalot919 4 месяца назад
Far too expensive. A very cheap movement, and the bracelet+clasp also look cheap. There are microbrands on the market so much nicer for less
@GEMSofGOD_com
@GEMSofGOD_com 4 месяца назад
Tsuyosa meh. This one's seriously alright tho.
@AhmadRiyal
@AhmadRiyal Месяц назад
nice watch but i prefer the eco-drive version.
@rostam79
@rostam79 4 месяца назад
Why is the second dial so ugly
@jk8190
@jk8190 3 месяца назад
Titanium bracelet and case = scratches Small second + date = can't be dressed up. Tsuyosa is way more GADA than this one and some colorways are good for dress up.
@deanivan3951
@deanivan3951 4 месяца назад
The Citizen Tsuyosa dial colours are much more beautiful than these
@Zonediver
@Zonediver 4 месяца назад
...the "real" Tsuyosa-Killer is the NB1050 - nothing else...
@vincedelapena
@vincedelapena 4 месяца назад
I would prefer around 36mm but would take one at 38mm. And that’s coming from guy with 7.5” wrist.
@anthonywhitney634
@anthonywhitney634 3 месяца назад
I think it looks fantastic, Ice Blue the stand-out for me. 40mm is a good size in my opinion. I also think an applied logo would have looked much more luxurious.
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