I'm pretty sure it's deep, everything we make is always inspired from everything else, so nothing new really, we just discover the combination from time to time.
But most of the fans just want to compare one anime to the other 😩 it's rare to see an anime fan who enjoys both without even comparing when it starts it's like a war
People don't understand that there's a difference between artists being inspired by others to create their work and breathe their own life and personality into it. And artists who just copy/paste a checklist of things that all manga have, like a lot of generic action shonen or isekai have. Keeping it all Naruto, the entire concept about Jiraiya, Orochimaru, and Tsunade is just taken from Japanese folklore. But he brings his own spin to it to create vibrant and entertaining characters.
Yeah Jiraya the galant i believe, he was a monk who helped a 3 legged frog and saved a princess called Tsunade now Orochimaru thats another legend Susanoo's return to godhood after burning Amateratsu's rice fields, he fough Yamata no Orochi and got Kusanagi from the tail and gifted it to Amateratsu thus regaining his godlyness
Well... They are both not original... They take their origins back to Shinto practices and the idea of chi. Maybe the way it was used is similar but that doesn't mean it was a ripoff
Chakra natures and jutsu are probably the closest we've come to a power system that can rival the HxH nen, but it falls just a little bit short. Nen system is just so damn well thought out.
Nen and cursed energy are nearly interchangable in their applications id say nen makes more sense though. Cursed energy stems from negative emotions and thoughts which implies that the most powerful sorcerers are immensely miserable people. This doesnt make any sense, and i think gege just kinda handwaves that away. Nen is just concentrated aura passively generated by living things. @@Paradox484
I mean Ki, chackra, Reiatsu, curse energy blablabla it's basically just random naming for special energy and whatnot. The real root however is actually Chi from Wuxia novel. The idea that one can train to cultivate and harness energy within to do the impossible is basically originated from China.
@@JeSt4m I'd say non-physical energy systems are more widely discussed to be simply be stated as having a singular origin. If anything I'd say that Wuxia is just a version of fantasy themed under chinese cultural influence. Now specifically over the top martial arts to a super human level is definitely specific to wuxia and chi/ki/qi might be more influenced by chinese elements... but non-physical energy is present in too many cultures to really be JUST one source
Also Naruto took some ideas from Akira Toriyama too. If you watched the OG dragon ball, you can notice that Kinkaku and Ginkaku appear there as characters, as well as the name "inoshikacho", but in Dragon ball it's the name of the animal
Ino, Shika, and Cho trio is a winning formation in japanese card game. So, both Toriyama and Kishimoto are inspired by that. Same way as Eiichirou Oda create King, Queen, and Jack trio in One Piece
@@levinkeluargapolca that is just very common in a lot of older shonen, I think it has more to do with being easier to remember, than knowing their specific names which can be very hard after awhile when watching tons of anime.
People on the Dragon Ball community sometimes seem to treat Akira Toriyama (RIP) was THE inspirer, meaning, the one who inspired others but NOT accept he might have also get inspired by others, like he was link 1 on the anime chain. Specially when Akira confirmed he was inspired by stuff like Astro Boy, Ultraman, and even Disney animated movies like 100 Dalmatians of all things.
Not just that, I'm pretty sure that Dragon Ball also had some inspiration from Journey to The West. One of the most influential pieces of literature of China
The OG Dragon Ball inspiration is Journey to the West and DBZ inspiration came from Superman (Saiyan saga), Star Wars (Frieza Saga), Terminator ( Android Saga ), Disney movie ( Buu Saga) @@balazscsotai8354
@@keot777 it’s cos this guy decided to use Naruto as an example. Idk why but now apparently Naruto is mid and HxH is a master piece. When HxH is inspired by db. In fact Muruem is basically Cell. Gon is childlike exactly like Naruto. They chose him as a kid exactly the same way dragon ball starts. At least the big 3 start much older. Even Naruto skips to 12 in part 1 then shippuden straight away. Let’s not mention how he uses Goku’s favourite move b4 kamehameha. Which is Rock Paper Scissors. Gon is exactly like Goku in personality, very innocent naive but dangerous. It’s basically copy paste of Goku. Yet I don’t complain.
it’s cos this guy decided to use Naruto as an example. Idk why but now apparently Naruto is mid and HxH is a master piece. When HxH is inspired by db. In fact Muruem is basically Cell. Gon is childlike exactly like Naruto. They chose him as a kid exactly the same way dragon ball starts. At least the big 3 start much older. Even Naruto skips to 12 in part 1 then shippuden straight away. Let’s not mention how he uses Goku’s favourite move b4 kamehameha. Which is Rock Paper Scissors. Gon is exactly like Goku in personality, very innocent naive but dangerous. It’s basically copy paste of Goku. Yet I don’t complain.
@@zakiahmed6655the character copies paarts of goku ut the story is so dark and good. Really enjoyed naruto and db as well so like, who cares if they are similar
This is a good lesson: it's not that there's nothing new under the sun, it's that no work is an island. Everything has an origin point, and that origin point has its origin point. "Originality" isn't about having no inspirations or influences, because that's next to impossible. Even if it's something from your real life influencing your work, like a traumatic event or someone you love, you're still drawing inspiration from SOMETHING. It's about putting your own spin on what you're drawing inspiration from, giving it a unique identity, and making something that only you, in your time and place, can make. Only Kishimoto could've made Naruto, only Oda could've made One Piece, and only you can make whatever you end up making, if you don't just copy and paste that is.
This is a ubiquitous phenomenon. The father of Mary Shelley, who wrote Frankenstein, gave us the structure for fiction writing that has been echoed throughout time. It doesn't make it bad if it's an echoing of a thing before
@kiteknight23 call it cope. But your making it sound like togashi's work don't stand on their own. Your the one coping I've never seen an episode of DragonBall and will continue that streak, especially now because a dragonballs fan like you got so mad haha
@@kh2freak1337 togashit work is done n dusted. No originality No continuation no growth no fanbase no movies no games nothing. It's just dead in every media and every aspect possible. Do not grave dig, Let it rest.
@@hunterstocks7247 not hating it’s cos this guy decided to use Naruto as an example. Idk why but now apparently Naruto is mid and HxH is a master piece. When HxH is inspired by db. In fact Muruem is basically Cell. Gon is childlike exactly like Naruto. They chose him as a kid exactly the same way dragon ball starts. At least the big 3 start much older. Even Naruto skips to 12 in part 1 then shippuden straight away. Let’s not mention how he uses Goku’s favourite move b4 kamehameha. Which is Rock Paper Scissors. Gon is exactly like Goku in personality, very innocent naive but dangerous. It’s basically copy paste of Goku. Yet I don’t complain.
In fact, there is nothing original in people's ideas, at least the majority. A bad artist imitates what he stole, and a good artist turns what he stole into something better
Togashi is one of the goats and i'm sick of haters talking shit about his back. If you're a JJK fan you should know buddy took a LOT of inspiration from HXH
HxH turned into shit with the elctions arc and YYH is a piece of outdated mediocrity. It's not haters talking shit bout it but fanboys who think that hack is the Best mangaka
I mean any good writer or artist will take inspiration from the prior works of his genre out outside of them. Standing on shoulders of giant and what not. Don’t see why people get hung up on “this person copied this” cuz it’s usually not even a direct copy it’s just an iteration on that previous idea.
Everybody takes inspiration from something. It's impossible to be a conscious human with completely original thoughts, you can try to mitigate it later in life, but you can't mitigate it during your developmental years.
@@williamargott398proceed to have completely different story. The only thing looks similar to naruto is the student of gojo and sukuna begins a monster but as a vesel inside of mc but they're personality are completely different. Nothing more deep than this The story and plot is completely different to the two series.
Naruto actually takes a huge inspiration from Japanese Mythology, especially when it comes to names for abilities: Susanoo is the god of the winds and seas, Amatarasu is the god of the black sun, Izanagi is the supreme diety, etc I heavily encourage people to dive into Japanese Mythology and see how much of it was used to create characters and abilities from Naruto!
I actually feel a sense of familiarity if that's the case which makes me more interested since it's also sometimes easy to understand things like powers , plot etc
I’m a software developer and let me tell you this: if you’re not copying in some form you’re doing it wrong. Now, copying is a rather specific word but it’s true: you can’t unsee the code that you see and it stays with you. That however doesn’t mean you’re using it for the same purpose or in the same way, yet the root of your own code can be traced back to someone else’s 99.9999% of the time, in good and bad.
Yeah it is weird people do that. For example. "That time i was reincarnated as a slime," "Is it wrong to pick up girls in a dungeon?" "Konosuba" "The rising of the shield hero" "Solo leveling" "Overlord" And that one show about that uncle and his advetures in another world.. They are all the same But ill watch all and appreciate all of them
i felt like i fucking took psychic damage for a second when this man really tried to say that any kind of spirit energy is a reference to yu yu hakusho as if it wasn't a real life lore thing is blond hair a dragon ball reference then?
He was talking about the *application* of it. Like, spirit energy & Chakra work in practically identical ways. Yes, they both have a common origin, but it's the way that it's applied that causes them to be similar
@@Fanimati0n call it whatever you want to call it. spirit energy, chakra, ki, nen, life energy, ... they have the same kind of application and aren't based on any anime. the concept of this kind of energy is far older than the very first manga.
I think there is a difference when people speak about inspirations vs. when they talk about character archetypes and their tropes and arrangements of said things being lifted wholesale from other manga.
People don't realize that almost all works are inspired from real life or from another work and that isn't just for manga or comics it can be applied to anything for example try to imagine a color you never saw
not hating it’s cos this guy decided to use Naruto as an example. Idk why but now apparently Naruto is mid and HxH is a master piece. When HxH is inspired by db. In fact Muruem is basically Cell. Gon is childlike exactly like Naruto. They chose him as a kid exactly the same way dragon ball starts. At least the big 3 start much older. Even Naruto skips to 12 in part 1 then shippuden straight away. Let’s not mention how he uses Goku’s favourite move b4 kamehameha. Which is Rock Paper Scissors. Gon is exactly like Goku in personality, very innocent naive but dangerous. It’s basically copy paste of Goku. Yet I don’t complain.
Naruto and Sasuke also have a ton of visual inspiration from GOku and Vegeta, and their rivalry was also kind of forced on him by an editor trying to emulate the success of Vegeta as a rival IIRC.
@@fireblizard8366I can see how considering being peers and all. But Goku and Krillin didn’t really have some big climactic battle to solve their rivalry, and Krillin is nothing like Sasuke is. Even back in those days he wasn’t. Sasuke reminds me a lot more of Vegeta, so I’d say it’s a mixture.
Naruto was inspired by Dragon Ball. The relationship between Naruto and Sasuke was supposed to mirror the one between Goku and Vegeta. They even used the same color scheme for the two.
Naruto being beloved is a mystery to me to this day, and I am 28. Always found it pretty mediocre, especially because it got way more popular than it ever should have.
@@yanyanzhang5813 One of the best manga ever written? First time I ever heard anybody claim that. I myself don't like it, many people I know don't like it, there only are two camps, which is not an indicator of a genuinely great manga/ anime
@@xPandamon “first time I ever heard anybody claim that” Ah, so you either haven’t talked to another human being before or you are death. Sorry for your loss either way.
@@yanyanzhang5813 Even on a quick search most people agree that the manga is a 7/10. Not bad, but has some flaws. I totally agree with that, the manga is way better than the anime, which to me is terrible and it has split opinions on it for many reasons. The mange is good, but it's just a good manga in a sea of other good mangas. I guess I dislike Naruto because of the mediocre anime, which many grew up on and like because of that reason. But like I said, I never heard anybody say that Naruto is one of the best manga out there, hell, I rarely hear people talk about the manga in the first place. Kind of a shame.
This can really be said for not only different forms of art, but ART in general. Us as artist are beings who are inspired to make things from things that inspire. us in any form. So originality shouldn't be based on something new, but something unique. We just add out own little twist to things that inspire us, and that is completely normal in art. Pablo said it best, "good artist borrow, great artist steal". So don't be afraid to take inspo.
Like music.. How many combination that you make there is always a similarity with the old song.. 70's 80's 90's is the gold era of music industry, comic, movie else
The whole concept of chakra (life energy) being used in combat is also something that is older than yuyu hakusho. The chinese believe in "qi" (or ki) and believed in all sorts of stuff related to it too and how it affects kung fu. The concept of Chakra is also in some Indian continent religions too.
i dont mind manga getting inspiration from other manga but i draw the line for bad isekai clones which make fanservice the only good thing happening for hem
not hating it’s cos this guy decided to use Naruto as an example. Idk why but now apparently Naruto is mid and HxH is a master piece. When HxH is inspired by db. In fact Muruem is basically Cell. Gon is childlike exactly like Naruto. They chose him as a kid exactly the same way dragon ball starts. At least the big 3 start much older. Even Naruto skips to 12 in part 1 then shippuden straight away. Let’s not mention how he uses Goku’s favourite move b4 kamehameha. Which is Rock Paper Scissors. Gon is exactly like Goku in personality, very innocent naive but dangerous. It’s basically copy paste of Goku. Yet I don’t complain.
@@patrickcalip948 Apparently Sasuke comes from a ninja tale about someone called Sasuke who wants to avenge his clan. So how is Kurama inspired by the anime you want to imply it is.
..a notorious clan with eyes that once turned red unlock strange powers which also attract evil curiosity upon them from other people wanting to steal their eyes.. That clan got genocided.. hmm hmm hmm 🤔 oh! and the sole survivor is seeking revenge! 😀
I mean... both manga were prepublished the same year and considiring how early the uchiha storyline is introduced it's unlikely that kishimoti took inspiration from that
Also punk who gets into fights all the time, gets supernatural powers from a Shinigami and uses them to fight monsters describes the first arch of both yuyu hakusho and Bleach.
Honestly this is very painful, as young as i am, I actually come up with my own original ideas just to watch an anime or movie to see that same idea being used in the exact same way
My dude I literally made a story I was gonna upload online but told my friend the rundown of the initial plans. My friend laughed after hearing me out and said the web novel he was reading the EXACT same plot points. Everything I mentioned before and after, that same web novel had done exactly that, the exact same way. I read it myself and it felt like I was reading a carbon copy of my story that never left the draft.
The only time in life where you're able to have true untainted original thoughts is when you're extremely young. This is also why however most of said thoughts are terrible. Without reference and inspiration creating something truly great is impossible at least by modern standards. The artists of today were inspirited and draw inspiration from the artists from the previous generation, those were inspired by the previous, and so on all the way back to the original cave paintings. It's part of being human, the important thing is to be yourself with what you create though. Don't just copy those around you verbatim. Make something your own while not being ashamed of the inspirations around you.
Humans have told stories for thousands of years. Every single concept of story has already been told at least once. What makes your story unique is not that it's concept is "original" as nothing really is (and if it is, maybe there's a good reason why nobody used the idea as it may be terrible). What matter is what you bring to the original concept, how you use your experiences, encounters, beliefs, knowledge and opinions to shape a generic concept into something new. So, if you find the exact same story you wrote somewhere else, here is how you shoumd proceed. First, do not get discouraged by it and instead think of it as a challenge to make your story better. Then, go deeper than thinking that the plot points are the same. I'm sure your story has a little something that is unique. Maybe your character has a unique quirk. Maybe there is a relationship that is different. Once you find that one special thing, expand on it and how it affects your story. Then, write and rewrite until you're satisfied with your result. And a last advice, even if you can't find a way to make your story truly different from the other one you found, if you really want to put it out, then do it. The only thing that matters is that you are proud of yourself and your story, and for your next story you'll find something more unique, more true to you
Except Sasuke was created before Kurapika. Again, research, it’s not that hard. Sasuke is a combination of Hiei and Sasuke from Sasuke by Sanpei Shirato.
@@yanyanzhang5813kurapika was made in 1999. Sasuke was made in 2002 and even if he was based off of that Sasuke, you still can’t tell me that the uchiha clan isn’t based off of the kurapika clan
@@Stoneking-lf6ey it isn’t. And everything you just said is incorrect. HxH was created in 1998. Naruto was serialized in 1999. It’s concept following proto-Sasuke and the proto-uchiha clan was created in 1995. And Sanpei Shirato’s Sasuke, about a black haired ninja named Sasuke avenging his Ninja clan whose eyes turn red came out in 1961. Togashi wasn’t even born until 5 years later. Sit down kiddo.
That too but people notice when something is done in the same likeness as something else. Or else we wouldn’t have the same typical revenge story of a certain shonen protagonist trying to avenge their nigh extinct clans
Kishimoto has a brother who wrote a manga called 666 satan which is also about a young boy with a demonic power within him essentially because both of them were inspired by the same source material.
Except you’re wrong because Sasuke and the Uchiha Clan predates HxH. The original concept for Naruto was about the Uchiha clan, and that was released before HxH was made. Sasuke is inspired by Hiei and Sasuke from Sasuke by Sanpei Shirato.
@@yanyanzhang5813 i have and naruto wasn't introduced in 95 but had a one shot in 97 but there was a one shot in 95 called karakuri that later helped make the naruto manga along with the original one shot where naruto was originally the fox
Naruto was inspired by Goku. The orange clothing, the fact that Naruto is kind of stupid at everything except fighting. I remember actually reading/listening to an interview where he said as much, but that was years ago. Anyway, Dragon Ball is actually a large inspiration for a lot of mangaka and look at how many amazing works have been produced since. Besides, most ideas aren't even original. It is remade, recycled and that isn't a bad thing at all. It doesn't have to be entirely original for it to be amazing. Look at Pokémon. A ton of it is inspired by old folklore, memes, and even Western concepts. And yet, it's still one of the most popular brands in the world to this day. There is nothing wrong with taking inspiration from the things you love. It just shows how much you care.
@@Imtaz- I guarantee I’ve read and watched far more anime/manga than you have. The truth of the matter is that Naruto is objectively written extremely well. People who claim otherwise only claim so bc it’s more popular than their favorite. If you’re gonna be biased you gotta claim it at the very least
One thing I was told in a creative writing class in college is, "writers are the biggest thieves in the world." This is fact. Best example is high fantasy. Nearly all of it today was inspired by Tolkein's works, who used several references of other myths to create his amazing world.
It's not just manga. It's Japanese culture. Ninjutsu has ALWAYS been around. Ki, Nen, Chakra, Cursed Energy, Spirit Energy. It's each author's unique spin that makes an manga/anime.
There’s a difference between copying (or plagiarism) and homage (recognition someone else before you had a great idea). A person is neither a real critic or fan if they can’t tell them apart.
Yea a lot of inspirations for yu yu hakusho but he does mention it and he has great relationships with everyone he’s used as a source. I love that they’re all kind of friends or at least respect each other.
The formula for these animes in aspects are similar because it's working. A skill base. A few main character similarities. Hand full of super epic moments like Rock Lee weight drop like Goku.
what is funny is that Yu yu hakusho also "drop" his wristband to release his full strength which means that the trope was already done twice (probably more in other hidden anime at the time) before Rock lee did it. However Rock lee weight drop is better executed which is why it got so much praise back in the days. Also not many people whom were new to anime back then knew the sources like we do today because of the internet.
