I have the same problem in my bike in hot start its like low battery whenever i try to crank it, i will try it to my bike, thanks for sharing for your discovery.
My pleasure, good luck with it. I didn’t see anything on the Internet about it, so I knew it would be pretty messed up if I didn’t share my find. Let me know what you find out.
your a life savor . im having the same problem right now as we speak. i replaced the harness, stater, startor, rect,stator plugs ,coil packs. starter clutch, clutch leaver
I was searching for the gen 3 Busa problems before I'm going to the dealer for it and found a lot of hot starts issues on those all over the internet. The funny part of this whole story is that people claiming they're technicians with 10, 20 or whatever years of experience and at the same time talking about starter relays, bad battery, bad gas (lol) or whatever... 😂 I'm sure that the problem is 100% mechanical, starter clutch or its gear or the pin just like you've mentioned in your video. And it's a shame that Suzuki just freezes off this problem acting like nothing happends all these years.
@@VadimWelding you’re absolutely right about that. Before I own the bike, I started mentioning what I considered might be a problem and the guy told me that he’s had mechanics from the Suzuki dealership check everything and they couldn’t find it. It took me just thinking hard and looking deep into it and getting my hands on the bike with a smart friend of mine that is like a MacGyver. Really smart dude and we figured it out together. Luckily, I got the parts from a bike that was wrecked from a Cycle Salvage yard and they were good. I just took my chances but all of the parts were only $100 so it was worth a shot for me, and it worked. So that’s where my issue was it’s gross, like they don’t put any extra effort into making that problem go away.
@@rickgidney1005 yeah, people should start thinking and understand how it works before making statements like "it's because of bad starter relay". But they don't 😂
@@VadimWelding OK bro, I don’t know if you have a GEN three or if you were doing it for a friend but nobody has ever really gotten back to me after they told me thank you to let me know if it fixed it or not. Do me a favor and let me know if you find where the problem lies. I’m interested to know. Thanks bud
@@rickgidney1005 well I guess it helped, orherwise they would comment something. I'm going to buy a gen3 Busa this month and if I'll face that "hot start" failure (which is very possible btw :)) I'll take off that cover, inspect the pin and tell you what I've found, no problem. Thanks for the video again, you did a great job! 👍👏
Thanks men I believe I had the same issue and for what I seeing I can Fix it My self instead od spending hundreds of $ to thw Mechanic ...GRAET YOU GIVE ME HOPE 🙏.BLESSINGS 👍
My pleasure. From what I experienced, it’s definitely somewhere in between the starter and down at the starter clutch which is the very last gear all the way on the bottom. Good luck to you, let me know if it works. Thanks for commenting
@@nortnel201225 thank you. I see a lot of people saying all the parts are gummed up and that’s all they did to fix it but mine was different. Thank you for the comment.
I have a second generation 2007 1300 Hayabusa it a will. Cold startup real good once get hot I come off the clutch she was shut down and won't start up until it cools off
Sometimes the starters are affected over time from the heat, I’m not saying what my problem was, everybody else is going to have. Until you figure it out, you can always pop start your bike. Have somebody push you or get a good roll by walking as hard as you can while you’re on the bike and the only luck I’ve had is doing it in first gear. Second gear just makes it stumble and stop. The first gear makes it turnover really fast like the motor needs. If you’re gonna go out and about and you have to park, try to park on a hill or somewhere where you can get a rolling start
@@MrGsxrboy600 dude, it’s been a couple years since I fixed it but I’m pretty sure it’s called the idler gear. The one that the starter has to jump out and turn. The shaft pin that holds in in place needs to be solid, if it gets deflected, like, if it has enough room to angle, it won’t spinand it will get bound up in its hole that it has to ride in, so yeah. Sorry that you’re having that problem but let me know if that helps. Good luck dude.
@@MrGsxrboy600 check it out, it’s not the gear that’s the problem, it’s the hollow, approximately inch and a half to 2 inch pin that it works on needs to have a solid really tight fixture to sit in. If you take it apart yourself, you’ll see what I mean, if you have somebody else take it apart, you can watch and see what I mean.the shell that clamp it all together at the end is the problem, they need to be really tight with no tolerances available. You know what I mean hopefully
@@MrGsxrboy600 not one person has ever reached out to ask me anything else after I told them what fixed mine. That goes to show me that what I told them had fixed their problem. Once you get your bike working properly again, can you please let me know that you fixed it?I would appreciate that, I’m not looking for views or likes, I just want to know
@rickgidney1005 definitely. At this point I'm close to giving up. What stumps me is that my bike is so new. I've replaced the starter and battery and so far nothing. I have found a lot of others with the same year as mine but nobody could give me answers. Thank you for responding so quickly. I'll keep you updated as soon as I can get work done on mine.
Hi i have a 2013 triumph tiger 800 with the hot start problem and also the grinding noise while idling and driving..sounds like what you say could be the problem regarding the hollow pin.
Hey kind sir if you reply to this you are a god , So I have a gsxr 1300 , bought it in 2016 new. Recently after 5 years of riding it an issue arose with it not hot starting after having some work done on the transmission ( especially 1,5,6 gears). Now that my transmission was new I didn’t think any problem would rise but my bike would start smooth when cold but as soon as I would be at a gas station it won’t hot start. I would have to wait 15 min for it to start and then it would smoothly. My mechanic suggested to get a new battery which I did but it did not fix the issue , now my bike is at the mechanic’s and he said he is gonna clean up the ignition properly and if that does not work he’l most probably recommend a new one ( the ignition being the part under the tank of the busa I’m not sure what it’s exactly called). The bike runs smooth , no over heating no nothing brand as new. So if his method does not work should I try yours and what parts from the video should I change,replace or repair. It would be of great help if you could offer your insight to another busa bro from a country far away. Thank you in advance my friend.
Also I could not understand the issue with the rod in the video. So it should be still straight and not wobble around at all if I am right. So the cap and the rod will be the parts that need replacing?
I believe I made a second video, explaining the same thing, maybe look at my videos, and find the other one, and it might clear it up for you a little bit. That hollow pin that sits onto the part that is on the bike, should not have any play at all. it should be very tight with no wiggle room. Like a perfectly machine hole for the exact size, mine would wobble around because it was worn out over time. The original owner that on the bike before me said he would have to wait 10 or 15 minutes after it was stopped to start it back up again. By the time I got it, You would have to wait about an hour and some change before it would happen again because everything needed to cool all the way down because it got very worn out. It just keeps getting worse, and if I were you, I would check with a salvage shop to see if you can get the whole group of parts and just swap them out and put them on your bike. I paid $75 for everything from Cycle Salvage shop and put it on, and I have had no problems ever cents.
@@Ryan_utah the hollow pin that the idler gear slips onto is the one you need to check for sloppiness, the case or housing that the pin sits in is the part that gets wallowed out, the pin should twist but not wobble at all. I show it better in the other video. Please keep me in the loop bro. I’ll be here
@@rickgidney1005 alright I understood. The pin should have no wiggle room and should sit strictly straight and rotate on spot right. I will have it checked since I am going to pick the bike tomorrow but the issue was not resolved. I don’t trust my mechanic either seems to me he is just trying to make more money out of me. Il change the entire housing and the pin/rod with it. Will update you on how that goes and thanks for the quick reply man appreciate it a lot .
My 2002 ate up the starter motor I just got brand new. The teeth are all screwed up. Pissed off about it all cause I’ve been chasing this issue for close to a year now. SMFH!
my 2000 SRAD600 with 750FI in it, it does sound like it's binding when starting hot. cold start is fine, but lets say I drive it or let it warm up, stop the engine and try to start it again, it just wont crank as fast anymore and it gets worse and worse with every turn. battery is healthy, starter was just disassembled, inspected, cleaned and greased. started it up after reassembling the starter, cold start was fine. let it warm up to 60-70deg C, shut the engine and try to restart it and it just bogs slower and slower with every crank like the battery was dead. is that pin causing all that?
I tried greasing it up because I was narrowing it down, but doing that didn’t help either. Me and a friend finally noticed it was a little bit sloppy and just decided to go for it and buy one that was used but not loose and it’s been good ever since
@@paceves88 I cleaned the starter, regreased it and then drove 230km in one go. it seemed to help, however it was cleaned from the right side of the engine too. so far no issues except what the starter caused.
@@vahvelpoiss I don’t know if you’re talking about the Hayabusa or the 600 that the guy in the comment was talking about but I’m sure it’s a fairly common thing that not a lot of people know about. You should take years apart and see if it’s loose at all like I showed in the video.
Just to make sure …. I’m having slow cranking when it’s hot …. Mine is clean and oiled up but still having the freaking hot start problem …. I’m trying it tomorrow…. But I was wondering what parts I should get and where to get it from … plus I’m pretty sure that I lost one of the washers .. is that gonna be a problem
I’m not a professional when it comes to it but I definitely learned a lot about it. I got mine from a cycle salvage yard with a Hayabusa they had a blown head but everything else was good. Try to get one off of a fairly new used motor, I got everything for 125 for mine
Sorry I was in a rush when I wrote that, you should get the starter idler gear cover, and the inside cover as well that the pin drops into to hold the idler gear in place, I would get everything else if you’re not sure. There’s another gear that looks like a big pinwheel and then a starter clutch behind that which is all the way down in the front bottom right. Get everything from the starter down to the starter clutch. Sometimes starters get worn out and the magnets swell up and make it act like that but that’s something You’ll need to check. I also put bigger gauge wires from my battery to the starter and it turned a lot faster than the stock ones
I got my parts from a place called Neanderthal in California, I don’t think they’re around anymore, but the parts I got came off of a bike with a blown head or something. And I wondered if the parts that I got we’re going to have the same issue so it’s kind of a gamble, but they were fine.if you have to buy them brand new it’s pretty expensive but I got all of the parts for about $100 which was a smoking deal.
I'm from Europe, I plan to keep the bike with me and I have no desire to ever sell it. If it's the same problem as yours, I'll buy new parts no matter how much they cost because I love BKing.
@@markoristic5416 that’s the way I feel, newer bikes, are a little bit faster, but the gen one definitely grows on you, and is totally unique. I won’t get rid of mine either, I love it too much. It’s definitely fast enough for me, and then some!!
The starter is underneath the gas tank, the parts you need to replace are the pin and the housings that sandwich over it on the right hand side under the whole right side plastic cover. I got mine off of a motorcycle they didn’t have the problem from a motorcycle junkyard. You would have to call around and ask.
@@danmancastro Dude that’s bad ass. I spent almost a year trying to narrow it down and I finally did. I’m so glad that it worked for you, I wish more people would respond if it worked for them, I couldn’t find anything About the problem when I was searching but I’m glad to help. Good for you, take care buddy
@@Rracer300zx seriously, I totally agree with you. I was pulling my hair out for a strong year and spending a grip of money. Just trying to figure out how to get my bike to start once I would stop for gas. It’s gross.
Yes, this is a 2003 generation one Suzuki Hayabusa, GSX 1300 R 1298 cc, but the bike have had the problem since the original owner and bought it in 2003. Which means it was probably a bad mold.
I have a 2002 Hayabusa and it cranks but no start. I bought a new starter and it didnt work. I sprayed starter fluid in the air intake and it started for a second or two and shut off. I did it again and it started and made a grinding noise that sounded bad. I opened the cover and found metal shavings and the sprockets on the starter were ate up. Not sure what to do now.
Sorry, I didn’t see your comment five months ago, hopefully you have figured it out by now. I haven’t worked on it for a long time so I’m not exactly sure which one you’re talking about sorry.
Hello friend I hope you are well, I have a model 2000 hayabusa, with the same problem, and I want to see if you can support me, tell me where to contact us. BYE BYE
