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HDZero Goggle vs Sky04x Analog Performance and Analysis 

Ryan Quellet
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Check the HDZero Facebook page or Discord for Beta Announcement:
/ hdzero
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
04:23 - Vertical Jitter Fixed
05:09 - Diagonal lines smoother
07:02 - OSD Chip causes OSD Jitter
09:56 - Rounder holes, stable image
12:23 - Race testing
13:36 - Raw Analog Footage from HDZero Goggle

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@RyanQuellet
@RyanQuellet Год назад
Would you use Analog on HDZero Goggle? Is the upgrade in image quality worth it? Tell me what you think
@MichaelDFPV
@MichaelDFPV Год назад
Yes, because the HDZ Goggles would replace my Skyzone Cobra X.
@c47force15
@c47force15 Год назад
Ye of course, this is fantastic.
@miguelbaldi
@miguelbaldi Год назад
Please, just let me buy it NOW! That's the only thing holding me to HDZero migration. Thanks for the diligent work you are doing with Carl!
@FATSNAIL-FPV
@FATSNAIL-FPV Год назад
YES! was looking to maybe buy the Skyzone o4x v2 to replace my echine EV300o v1's.. guess I'll just move over the vrx now and be done. no 60fps dvr on the ev300o v1's but hey...
@SunspotFPV
@SunspotFPV Год назад
Heck yeah. These are going to replace to dom hd3s.
@edrone_
@edrone_ Год назад
This is a fantastic update Ryan 👏 The advantages of the deinterlacer far outweigh any negative cosmetic comments I have heard going around the module bay. I think this is awesome looks clean and refined for the way the module clicks in. Every video you make I am liking the goggles more and more! 🙌👍🤟🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@JonE5FPV
@JonE5FPV Год назад
geeez, i really want these for analog now.
@velkrofpv6654
@velkrofpv6654 Год назад
I am definitely getting these goggles when they come out. Thank you very much for keeping us all up to date with the progress. Super excited to get these just for Analog with HD zero eventually!!
@tonymorgan328
@tonymorgan328 Год назад
Thanks for the great info and test you did here Ryan. The ability of putting the Rapid Fire module on the HDZero goggles is going to put me on the pre-order list.
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Год назад
This is the part im most excited about, the wifi board is a great idea too!
@Snakkerz003
@Snakkerz003 Год назад
ABSOLUTELY 100% needs analog! I would not buy these new goggles without it. It would cost a small fortune to convert all my VTX to HdZero. I don't want to carry 2 set of goggles as I get things converted or if I have a crash and need to change the VTX in the field
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Год назад
I was thinking exactly about what you said in the end there. Those goggles can change FPV forever. HDZero built in, a much better analog video quality and perhaps even Walksnail VRX. DJI is going to be left behind, which would be really interesting to see happening. Anyway, stay safe there with your family, Ryan! 🖖😊
@RyanQuellet
@RyanQuellet Год назад
It would be an interesting future. Dji appeals to consumers and the others appeal to hobbyists. I don't know if there is room in the hobby market for all of these options
@rp479
@rp479 Год назад
This information you bring is really good and very much appreciated. Thank you for what you do. If you were to polish up your editing and presenting style I feel like your channel would greatly increase in viewership.
@sixtofive
@sixtofive 10 месяцев назад
Since I started flying my older analog quads on the new goggles with the expansion module I can tell a much bigger difference in the picture quality between low and high quality analog cameras. The sharpness of the image and the dynamic range of the colors really is a big improvements on the high quality analog cameras.
@int3fpv
@int3fpv Год назад
Exciting stuff Ryan, looks awesome. I did one of the popular hdzero vs analog vs dji penetration test videos on RU-vid, but it probably surprises most people I still mostly fly analog (and hdzero for toothpicks) as I prefer the consistency of feel. Can definitely tell there is a difference in quality in the dvr you’ve showed here! What is the fov like of analog in the Hdz goggle in 4:3 compared to the 04x?
@skysailorfpv
@skysailorfpv Год назад
Thank you so much this is what I was waiting for looks great I fly HdZero and analog, so this was important to me
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад
Excellent video, very informative. Looking forward to owning these......
@bonfpv
@bonfpv Год назад
Thanks Ryan. This answers the exact question I had. I actually tried to get Andrew to relay this question to you before the event. I’m really eager to get my hands on these. Hopefully the issues will be resolved and I can be one of the first owners in Asia!
@louisdutoit4919
@louisdutoit4919 Год назад
If you’re the first, I hope to be the second.
@danielzawerton7023
@danielzawerton7023 Год назад
Great stuff !!!! Carl is the BEST. !!!!!!! Thank you for keeping us informed !!
@GrimSpeedFPV
@GrimSpeedFPV Год назад
I'm really glad I didn't invest in anything else and had patience for this to come!! Super excited! Thank for these vids and so glad to hear analog is NOT DEAD!😁 P.s regular analog goggles better start dropping in price quickly!
@Kmart_FPV
@Kmart_FPV Год назад
Looks great!
@mikebergman1817
@mikebergman1817 Год назад
Ah man.. I can’t wait. These are perfect IMO.
@pacospete4299
@pacospete4299 Год назад
I'm a noob to FPV and i took an interest in this hobby about the time some were bricking the Jumper T-Pro , THIS part of the RC hobby scares the hell out of some of those who built QUADS using KK2 fc . I have a list of which Goggles i'm considering to purchase soon . Last night i was considering DJI Goggles V2 because i would like the option of adding analog to whichever choice i make .... HDZero is still at the top of the list.... Many thanks and Good Luck !!!!
@stephenmutch4034
@stephenmutch4034 Год назад
The difference in image quality is impressive. Using my Skyzone 04X goggles in flight I have not noticed the vertical oscillation of the image with either analog or Shark Byte digital Vrx. Budget limitations however prohibit me from ditching my present goggles for marginal gains. There will always be a better system in a few months time, just like when you think you want to upgrade your computer.
@lixxfpv
@lixxfpv Год назад
yayy analoooog in a digital goggle, the transition of analog to digital
@Camilookb
@Camilookb Год назад
Sick, can't wait to buy it.
@Olafaloofian
@Olafaloofian Год назад
The awesome support for analog is the #1 reason I'm hyped for these goggles! I want backwards compatibility with all my drones
@vernelv
@vernelv Год назад
can't wait until HDZERO goggle is available for consumers
@ThirdEyeFPV
@ThirdEyeFPV Год назад
Werdna is such a top guy and glad he’s helping with the testing. Had the pleasure of meeting and racing against him when he visited us at MMRC earlier in the year
@RyanQuellet
@RyanQuellet Год назад
He's really fast. Especially for his short time in the sport
@Ed-Ed124
@Ed-Ed124 Год назад
I would use my rapidfire, definitely have too much analog stuff which I will use for many years to come.
@taco0077
@taco0077 Год назад
I guess you are one of the few youtubers with a good color correction in his videos!!!!
@sunsetpark_fpv
@sunsetpark_fpv Год назад
Wow that was a great update! I love the clean connection that the analog bay makes to the goggles. Any possibility of a button tab lock/release to not allow the analog module to be pulled out by accident? (Yes, I yanked out my RF module by accident once - I know I'm a spaz)
@MatCron
@MatCron Год назад
Getting better...almost thinking to get another pair of goggles. 😁
@rctrix9063
@rctrix9063 Год назад
Great job, proprietary technology islands are a scourge.
@riofpv
@riofpv Год назад
this thing is interesting, in this way I can use all my old models with a single viewer, with the same antennas, great
@elxero2189
@elxero2189 Год назад
Looking good
@mrmagoo600
@mrmagoo600 2 месяца назад
Hey Ryan, took the leap of faith after sitting on the fence for over a year. Just purchased HDZ goggles, nano 90 kit for a fresh build and analogue module for my existing quads. Current goggles HDO2s with rapid fire. When using the rapid for with HDZ goggles the lower third of the screen is jittery horizontal lines with black dashes on the very edges, unify Evo VTX. Any ideas or any links that might help? Any advise would be awesome. Thank you
@robertogden5239
@robertogden5239 Год назад
As I am a bad sighted FPV pilot (more than +2) does the diopter slide comparment a "fatshark"size or will HDZero sell there own ? as you are aware a good selling point foe Skyzone is there +6 to -6 range !
@CalleyyyC
@CalleyyyC Год назад
Very cool for a digital goggle to at least provide an option, better yet an improved input for analog!
@dadog92
@dadog92 Год назад
I wonder if is possible to have a sort of buffer to add a scanline somewhere to stabilize the osd or to show the osd elements every other frame to avoid the wobble. either way great video and definitely an upgrade over the normal analog goggles. can't wait to buy one to use with analog
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад
Yes that would be great!!
@maydayfpv
@maydayfpv Год назад
Can you disable the deinterlacing? Perrsonally find the shimmer it creates a bit distracting, just wondering if the option is there to toggle it.
@classics967
@classics967 Год назад
I may buy these when they come out. Im a DJI Digital user st the moment but like the Micro size VTXs that HDzero allows for.
@shaneintegra
@shaneintegra Год назад
Dang that looks good! Will HDzero goggles have a DIY option where we can print the case and assemble it or will it just buy a pre-assembled unit?
@RyanQuellet
@RyanQuellet Год назад
Pre-assembled only. CAD files available to customize things to your liking
@janbroz9878
@janbroz9878 Год назад
What cameras are you using? For analog and for HDZero? Thx ;-)
@Flumphinator
@Flumphinator Год назад
Sooo I’m brand new to this, and I already bought a pair of 04xs. I wanted the HDZero goggles but I didn’t want to wait that long for them. I was planning on upgrading to an HDZero VRX down the road. Will I lose out on a lot of these features?
@seewell8168
@seewell8168 Год назад
The image colour and detail look better in the Skyzones with less bleed which surprises me.
@le_ti_lik
@le_ti_lik Год назад
Would love to see the same video but with any of the orqa goggles instead of the skyzones.
@anthonyfpvminiquad1728
@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 Год назад
Wow!
@StuntDoubleFPV
@StuntDoubleFPV Год назад
Would these goggles still offer a better analog picture for a 1.3g signal on a 5.8g repeater??
@Dosclic98FPV
@Dosclic98FPV Год назад
I would like to see a test where you fly into the foliage to see if there is some real benefits to the improved resolution. Great goggles though!
@SmudgeFPV
@SmudgeFPV Год назад
why are you always test your product on race pilot? could you test on bando/ concrete with freestyle pilot? curious about penetration
@RCDUDEFPV
@RCDUDEFPV Год назад
Nice
@joaovictorf.carvalho458
@joaovictorf.carvalho458 Год назад
What analog module os this? And what analog module os cheap and reliable?
@ridewithandrei
@ridewithandrei Год назад
adding a walksnail vrx via hdmi would affect the response time ?
@Clickmaster5k
@Clickmaster5k Год назад
When using the analog module does the goggle output the video to HDMI out still?
@jkwilson35
@jkwilson35 Год назад
What are the steps for recording analog. For some reason it will not record . Do you turn goggles on first or the quade for it to record. I also have it on auto record?
@AirKhanFPV
@AirKhanFPV Год назад
Thanks for the test, but can you also do a test against the Orqa FPV.One Pilot? i switched from my sky04 v2 to the orqas, and in my opinion the image and the dvr is mutch better on the orqas, than it was on the sky04x v2. It would be nice to see how the orqas are comparing against the hdzero goggles analog interlacing.
@RyanQuellet
@RyanQuellet Год назад
I haven't used Orqa's much. MadsTech has though and he found that the Sky04x was better quality optics for him. The Orqa DVR is deinterlaced a lot like the realtime deinterlacer in HDZero goggle. Note though that the realtime goggle video feed on Orqa's does not have deinterlacing
@user-eq2ug7in7b
@user-eq2ug7in7b Год назад
Is that the v2 or v3 steadyview on the skyzone?
@WindjumbieFPV
@WindjumbieFPV Год назад
I keep saying that I have not had a problem with analog and see everything as clear as I need to. Especially as we all carry an HD camera and don’t use the DVR footage anyway… If I was to go digital it would be HDZero as it’s very similar to analog but with the higher dpi quality.
@modquad18
@modquad18 Год назад
IMO, this is the holy grail if you fly fast. Any idea when these goggles will be available?
@QueDoubleU
@QueDoubleU Год назад
Which analog camera are you using in this video?
@aphinion
@aphinion Год назад
HDZ just made the best analog goggle available... not it looks even closer to HDZ XD I like that you guys go through with it though and it makes it so much easier to switch for analog latency-sensible guys as you just can use the same goggles and gadually switch or selectively add HDZ where it fits most... probably what I'd do... Great work guys. I'm really curious how this one will turn out.
@slackerinmotion
@slackerinmotion Год назад
The part about the analog video that bothers me the most is the flashes. If the HDZero goggles can get rid of those flashes, then it's already a WIN for me. Fully support it.
@spartan3299
@spartan3299 Год назад
Would a new analog module that has this greater vert res be possible?
@JohnEFly
@JohnEFly Год назад
the sharpness looks pretty good on the HDZero, but I would 100% prefer to fly the picture on the skyzone dvr. The contrast, and crushed blacks are a deal breaker. Hopefully that gets ironed out and the HDZero goggles would be a no brainer.
@RyanQuellet
@RyanQuellet Год назад
Carl is tweaking it still. It is called false color
@elxero2189
@elxero2189 Год назад
I'm pretty sure you can adjust the color settings just like any other goggle though
@JohnEFly
@JohnEFly Год назад
@@elxero2189 in your display sure, but he's showing what the DVR recorded, which is referring to the image that then gets adjusted by the goggle. There is just some work to be done here. Not a big deal.
@charlesjones5070
@charlesjones5070 Год назад
Agreed. I thought the image on the 04x was way better. The Hdzero looks like it's been artificially sharpened (far too much), it might be a goggle setting rather than than the deinterlacing but overall I'd say the 04x image looks better, softer with more detail in the shadows and in the distance
@johndeesfpv9289
@johndeesfpv9289 Год назад
looks good to me , when can I get them ?
@FATSNAIL-FPV
@FATSNAIL-FPV Год назад
Guess i'll keep flying analog then! but on the HD0 goggles when they finaly are availble lol. my Echine EV300O get's to live on woohoo! WHEN ARE THEY AVAILEBLE IN EUROP!?!??!! I've got a 6" or maybe 7" HDZero quad to build! winter is coming and now all we got is rain! time to build!
@joemck1235
@joemck1235 Год назад
I really hope the box goggles have all these features that's the only type I can use
@madladdan
@madladdan Год назад
Why does the Hdzero goggle have less breakup with Analog?
@Purusotaman
@Purusotaman Год назад
When is the goggles be available in market
@xfOL.
@xfOL. Год назад
"Input voltage: 7V-21V (2S-5S)" is this true?
@nerdCopter
@nerdCopter Год назад
+1👍 💪
@spartan3299
@spartan3299 Год назад
An important view would be seeing scragle, twigs ect.
@johndaniels3889
@johndaniels3889 Год назад
When will these goggles be available
@tikibear3332
@tikibear3332 Год назад
If I understand this correctly, you buy an expensive HDZero goggles which you can use for the HDZero feed, then buy an analog "Adapter" which will accept the analog signal feed from any of our existing analog VTXs. Is that Correct? Am I understanding this correctly?
@smokehead5318
@smokehead5318 Год назад
Yes
@crash_lander
@crash_lander Год назад
Hey Dude!! Still waiting for the Modified Thumb bro video!! When will you send it for us!?
@crash_lander
@crash_lander Год назад
Yeah Crap, keep waiting, I’ll be there when your 1000yrs old scamster.
@Loz348
@Loz348 Год назад
will there be colour options when it goes on sale?
@Loz348
@Loz348 Год назад
im guessing this 👆 is a scam i dont win anything
@pofotiouzois
@pofotiouzois Год назад
Is it possible through the analog module to have audio output? thank you
@RyanQuellet
@RyanQuellet Год назад
Yes
@Mrfunkyfpv
@Mrfunkyfpv Год назад
what is the starting price
@itsallsobothersome4537
@itsallsobothersome4537 Год назад
More vertical resolution is a nice way of saying "actual analog vertical resolution" because the Skyzone Sky04x renders fields as frames, with only half of the vertical resolution that two combined fields would give (as you correctly pointed out later in the video). Also, very cool comparison. HDZero Goggles perform really, really well, although if you pause at 6:13 for example, the tree on the left looks actually more detailed in the Skyzone image. I wonder if this is a result of the DVR compression having a hard time with the "punchier" colors and higher contrast.
@jaysonrees738
@jaysonrees738 Год назад
I'd say it's worth it to migrate. The Sky04X is a decent goggle, but it has a fair share of issues that randomly pop up that they don't appear to be super interested in working out. Some of them even arise after they say they fixed them. Besides, the current VRX has its own issues that the new unit appears to fix.
@vernelv
@vernelv Год назад
the hdzero analog is clearly smoother
@Vespassassina
@Vespassassina Год назад
you are going to sell a ton of these, one goggle to rule them all. Now if just somebody would come with an OSS DJI VRX implementation ...
@iobawan
@iobawan Год назад
Very interesting project! But to me doesn't look like an image quality that worth upgrade. Yes it is noticeable when you know where to watch but overall doesn't change much -- still crappy. For example when you said the fence shot is good to see the difference I saw none at first glance. Later -- yes, roof is smoother on the right. The other shot of roof and the wall with dumpsters -- yes you can see the difference. But you also see how horizontal parallel wood planks blend into a mess for both hdzero and skyzone. I mean hdzero analog better that regular analog crap but still crap on a big scale
@user-yk1cw8im4h
@user-yk1cw8im4h Год назад
crap is relative, enough said
@int3fpv
@int3fpv Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_1ZtCFIbE3c.html A note on the 04x 'image moving up and down', on the 04x 60fps dvr you can see the image moving up and down as you describe in this video. However when I record the actual lens at a high frame rate with a gopro I see the opposite (see link above) - the image is stable and the osd is moving up and down each field. If you do an actual high frame rate recording of the screen itself you can see the difference from the 60fps dvr (which the entire image is moving up and down), unless I'm doing something wrong here ofc! thanks
@abcdefbcdefg8352
@abcdefbcdefg8352 Год назад
nr200p ftw
@baggszilla
@baggszilla Год назад
First!
@torpedoLaw
@torpedoLaw Год назад
But can you beat DJI damn it! If so, take my money!!!!!!
@theworst9568
@theworst9568 Год назад
Why would anyone want to go back to analog after using digital? Only positive analog has over digital is latency and that only matters in racing. For everything else Digital is superior in every way.
@derrogers
@derrogers Год назад
well, it's nice to have a good analog input. but nobody's will buy this goggles to fly analog. probably not the best idea to put too much effort into this feature... I really hope hardware wise the Google will be more perfomant than the vrx modules. for example the current vrx can't playback DVR files without stuttering. that's really annoying...
@RyanQuellet
@RyanQuellet Год назад
The new goggle runs on a much faster ARM SOC with full Linux and h.265 DVR. It's a completely new system. Nothing wrong with making analog even better
@derrogers
@derrogers Год назад
@@RyanQuellet yeah. I just hope this time they get the basics right. I was really stuned when I realized to watch hdzero DVR without stuttering, I have to pop the sdcard, put it in an sdcard reader and watch it via vlc on my phone. it's a 250€ device, it shouldnt be that way.
@user-wj7dw9co7y
@user-wj7dw9co7y Год назад
Well... looks like this goggles is shit, thanks you.
@hristiantodorov3923
@hristiantodorov3923 Год назад
I still don't like analog ...
@ifeetz7612
@ifeetz7612 10 месяцев назад
Do you know if the new firmware has solved the rolling image picture with analogue?
@RyanQuellet
@RyanQuellet 10 месяцев назад
Yes (well, it does things differently). I made a video about this a few months ago
@ifeetz7612
@ifeetz7612 10 месяцев назад
@@RyanQuellet in your video I believe that you say some goggles still ended up looking worse with analogue module, right? And you say if we are "die hard analogue people, then hold off on the update, correct? I just want to know that my HD ZERO won't be ruined for analogue after the update, thanks.
@RyanQuellet
@RyanQuellet 10 месяцев назад
@ifeetz7612 the latest hdzero goggle firmware has the best analog stability I've seen yet. If using rapidfire, use mode 1 (default)
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