HDZERO vs ME 

Cheers Bruce

I just don't agree with DJI policy and politics.

That's correct, they do.

Which did u choose I'm curious?

thank you :)

me too! thanks for watching

Nah just needed a bit of me time. But it sure does take the wind from your sales. That's why I liked this vid. I already had somebody that had all the knowledge. Major thanks to Phil

@@AndyRCchannel hell yeah this got me excited. Something to look forward to. Thank you both bro

@@GrimSpeedFPV thanks for watching

Isn’t it 😃👍 It literally saved me 🙏

Yeah that is something I missed. I guess if you don't see it as a problem you forget to mention it. But the dynamic range I'd say to the other option. Pointing right at the sun and no darkness. Power consumption, all I can say is it's a 3.5 inch model with a 750mah 4s lipo battery and it gets shy of a 10 min flight time. They do get hot yes but as you mention not enough to need a heat sync. They will sit there nicely at 25mw but at first blasting at 200mw there's thermal protection so they just shut off if they get too hot. The more powerful vtx has a heat sync

that would be super thank you

@@AndyRCchannel for sure!

Heheh

Phil recommended the TS file format in the DVR. Apparently it looks the best. Its also upscaled to 4k 60fps at 100mbs so that it picks up youtubes more favorable VP9 codec which bypasses what I call their potato encoder they use for lower resolutions.

I agree I just don't thihk they have the funding and infrastructure to put it all together. That crux35 is a bind and fly though. And I have listed all the parts that you need in the description of this video which you can buy from the same store.

Sometimes when a battery gets completely depleted while plugged into a quad. It can wipe the firmware on the flight controller. So I would look at reflashing betaflight and and setting everything up. If you are getting beeps that's a good sign but if it is not arming it's probably just wiped betaflight as a third beep means it's found your controlling and it sounds like it's not doing that. It may have whiped or reset the beta flight settings

Gecko Спасибо тебе того же!

If it helps here's footage on this channel of me going around those same trees with analogue, not really a fair comparison as the analogue is up at 400mw not 200 but as you can see ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jJs0qAtbyDs.html similar sort of break up if not more. Which is why i shout "what" at one point. Its a massive field and from what iv seen from earlier iterations, that break up was happening in open spaces. So its improved a lot. But I get it. All respect to analogue. I thought you liked this model in your previous comments. You dont have the hdzero version?

@@AndyRCchannel the lack of any response is quite telling 👍😅

i think JB did a video on how hdzero cams always look out of focus and he showed it could not be improved. It doesnt look like that in the goggles. Phil actually had a fly of it for the review of the quad and im sure he would have piped up if he thought the same. He flys this cam a lot. Have you watched this vid in 4k?

thanks for that :)

@@AndyRCchannel No problem :) I made the image to put on my phone and share online last September. Those stick commands are spread across 3 pages in the Shark Byte pdf manual which is hassle to scroll through and find, I just wanted to see them all in one spot without excess unnecessary text.

There's also down and out on both sticks to turn the VTX to 0mW that I don't see on your sheet, Ridwan 👍 Down and in again to restore output power. Very, very useful for those situations where you don't want the VTX overheating.

​@@eatyourvegfpv Thank you, I was unaware of that capability, I will try to test it for myself tonight when I get home (want to be sure I'm putting out correct info) and add it to the image. I've seen first hand how hot they can get, last July I pointed my thermal imager at a powered up Shark Byte VTX in a TinyTrainer with the canopy off, after 4 minutes it reached 120 Celsius!

@@eatyourvegfpv yes Phil mentioned that one and i missed it in the video. If you leave it sitting there for long enough it will overheat and shut off, however once we turned it down to 25mw and let it cool down it didn't do that again. Also nice that once its armed that function is disabled

It would look better because the camera is better. But you would be losing out If I recall the o2x doesn't have oleds? could be wrong on that as its been a while but LCD displays wont pop with the colors like oleds. Id also check that the HDMI mode inputs 16:9 because some goggles for some reason locked the aspect ratio to 4:3 when in HDMI Mode and hd zero is locked to 16:9. I think the hdmi connector type on HDzero is the smaller type so look into that as well but I think the latest o2x has the right one

@@AndyRCchannel thanks Andy, great info 👍

I use the skyzone 02x with hdzero. It definitely looks better than analog, but obviously not as good as with my 04x goggles. However, there is one catch... the 02x will not display an image when directly connected to the vrx. If you connect the vrx to an hdmi splitter and then plug the 02x into the splitter it will work. Not ideal, but it works. I have heard that it is the same for the new 02o as well.

@@philipeville9506 thx for the info. Very weird though

It will be better because you will not have desync,blinking,deformation or color changing image.

It is and I am yes

​@@AndyRCchannel And can you plug the HDZero into the AV of the "other" D Goggles ? I really don't want to buy another set

@@FiddlingwithmyWhistle no sadly you cannot, but you might be able to on the new fatshark goggles. I dont have details if it has HDMI but if they have been smart it should do. But mounting it would be the problem. I think the fatshark / DJI offering that we will see tomorrow/Friday will just completely ditch HDzero as an option.

It's a great quad! You didn't really see it in this video, but it is faster than you can believe! Lightest 3.5" Toothpick BNF on the market. Almost had no reviews on the digital versions because Happymodel was too cheap to send any to reviewers! What a shame... It kicks ASS! And, it's cheap too!

@@KOrnhOliO1 Yes, it's on my wish list. I want the DJI HD with ELRS but no one has them in stock at the moment. Jason said I could order direct, but the shipping time is a killer :(

just need the vrx and im ready for it all :)

same everywhere I think :(

@@AndyRCchannel Yeah, seems so. Especially since the big D's new goggles will have no support for the original protocols or transmitters, it really makes me not want to buy any more into their ecosystem.

@@LookingForEntertainment112 Fatsharks new goggle might, Its certainly DJI based but lets see tomorrow/friday

@@AndyRCchannel After JB's video, it seems the new Fatsharks are their own proprietary thing and still very much in the Kickstarter/GoFundMe stage. Quite a chunky looking VTX too, I guess I'll need to wait for HDZero to get their supply chain sorted?

thanks for watching :)

DJI Goggle for fpvers that can record the osd and potentially some more flexable VTXs

I would have the original HDZERO vrx.

Yes, need to see a TRUE test with solid objects and flying behind lots of bushes and trees. Like real life FPV flying! :)

it does make the eyes go blurry. 4 months after I still get days like that

Needs a tune.

yes its got some tuning issues I think which is causing the jello as the camera is mounted solid

@@AndyRCchannel it’s vertical arm flex, worse on 7inch quads, the giro cant detect miro vertical arm flex.

@@kerrymillar4981 nah not on this one. You will see in my review of the model.. but i wanted to separate the model and hd zero into two different vids which is why there are a few cuts in the flight videos

I flew DJI for 2 years, and been flying Hdzero for 1.5 year. Image quality is way better than analog: digital transmission avoids any image distorsion and weird coloring change. Regarding DJI, in 50Mb/s, image is Nice, and more detailed generally. I say generally, because, from time to time, the image gets pixelated. I do à lot of racing with track on grass, and this led me to many crashes, so I started to use more and more Hdzero, because the quality you have, is what you get all the time: when réception goes down, you lose packets, part of the image that translate into a grey square, but the rest of the image quality doesn't change. Some people might talk about variable latency, but in race conditions, latency was stable at 28ms on dji, and with hdzero, latency is around 25ms with current goggles, so it's not a property to consider in my case.

@@cedricgrandseigne Good info, thanks for the comment. Still wish anyone I know flew it to try it out. I mostly fly freestyle and mid-long-range on DJI and micros on analog. I really hope HDzero gets smaller and more abundant, so I can use it for the micro quads.

@@trajanfpv it already has actually, there's a new even smaller vtx and camera coming now, they have already been previewed, check out mr shutterbug on youtube

@@elxero2189 Your right, Nate has some small stuff, but it is not quite small enough. Getting there, but not quite.

@@cedricgrandseigne Agreed, latency is way blown out of proportion with DJI! If you know you are flying something with supposedly more latency, your brain will trick you into thinking you can feel it - which is simply not true. it's just not enough of a difference! Don't believe me? Go watch JB and Stingy's video where they fly them both back to back and do not know which system they are flying. Then they guess which one each flight was. They couldn't tell! Both of them failed to tell! lol :)

haha now that made me laugh out loud. Yeah we had one lucky Sunday. Much appreciated comment :)

Just don't want to do what to everyone else is doing by comparing two completely different systems that work differently and are aimed at a different market