He was the next generation's Michael Vick... but it went horribly wrong 

LOOOL Facts

Amazing he has made it this far...talk about getting chance after chance

Bruh! This shit isn't addictive!

This is his last go-around

@StunniGod 666 no

Yep. I said this after this playoff game.

I'm a Seahawks fan and I couldn't believe they let him keep playing. That stupid field ruined him more than anything. Trying to play on grass in January is retarded. It ruined Seattle's pass rush that year too with Cris Clemons' injury.

@@kevinroylancephotography9437Don't forget having him actually run wide receiver routes. Give opponents free shots. Just mind boggling.

the skins are just a poorly managed team.. it's a qb meat grinder, elite talent goes in, injured scrap comes out

Yeah, Shanahan ruined RG3 in under a season.

The skins will never be any good so long as Dan is the owner.

Josh Gordon, all this drug test marijuana related. Why even test for marijuana?

​@@nicholaslipowski7744exactly. It's not a performance enhancing drug.

My body still moves but my mind has failed me.

@Blue 30's I know right. Ego is a terrible thing.

@@nickhill8612 it's not ego, it's pride

@@ramonew7815 Sure okay

Was never a good quarterback in the NFL anyway. I don't get why there is even a story.

Facts

Yeah

😂

Yeah

I wouldn’t consider being a back up lasting longer. If Luck wanted to be a backup I’m pretty sure he could

Grass is green

Everyone does that.

@@llg34sll yes

@@TarmaanProductions No. That is an insult to Derrick Rose. This is a ridiculous take.

Or anymore, he’s gone bye bye to average QB

@@llg34sll sorta he was a great player but got an ACL injury rookie year ended his promising career only difference is RG3 didn't win MVP

*Brandon Roy

ask Joe Flacco how that went

@@NewOrleanCeltics21 that was a cheap shot that Joe Flacco received. And you can slide head first no law against that

It’s wrong but it’s the NFL name one star that hasn’t been hit with a cheap shot.

h

@@Jfscloud723 lamar jackson

The best👍

Will Cushman I really do think Bob Jr. was the next vick

He should have the Senior Executive Producer job at ESPN.

rg3 did not deserve Heisman over Andrew luck. luck is a franchise qb, rg3 is not even good backup. did not want to give award to pac12 player.

Yea extremely well edited, very skilled work

Aaroh Desai True but RGIII was one of a kind

Black qbs suck in the NFL

Rg3 was the second rg3 in the league. Rex Grossman the third

quick qb

@@daneevans7590 Cam Newton has done reasonably well in his 8 years. He's not on the level of Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Peyton Manning, or Ben R, but he's still one of the better QBs in the league.

I remember I used to use him in NCAA video game.

I came here to feel bad for a multimillionaire with a great future the rest of his life, too.

StClemmons Kevin Hart - my pussy hurt

Typsy K. Capone same bro💔

This b.s. fairytale made me want to vomit.

PhantomEchos Perhaps...but Shanahan was still his coach & he’s still supposed to look out for his ‘young’ players welfare.

The fault goes where it as always belonged since the Cooke family sold the Redskins, with Dan Snyder! Snyder is a curse to football and unfortunately, to my Redskins. This team will never be good under his ownership because Snyder won’t accept the fact that he knows nothing about football. Jack Kent Cooke was a great owner because he wrote checks and trusted his GM to find a good coach and then let that coach run the team. Snyder loves getting involved with the players, especially the superstars of the team. He is always involved in the selection of players in the draft. An owner has no place there. It is the vision of the GM and coach as to what kind of a team they will build and field the proper players to full full those roles. Players that will fit well within a system, where guys like Dan think that you just draft all of the trophy winners and college superstars and any superstars you can pick up on free agency, because stars win championships. How well has this worked for him? The worst thing Dan does is giving his phone number to the stars on the team. He allows those stars to dictate how they will be handled and this will make you a disjointed horrible team. Each player is concerned with their role and how their career will unfold, not looking at the team as a whole. Football is a team sport, more so than most any other sport. You can’t just have a few Michael Jordans who can take you to multiple world titles in football. Joe Gibbs won multiple titles by building a team, with the biggest emphasis on the offensive line. That line won them three world titles, not some flashy QB or RB. In fact, Gibbs won those titles with 3 different QBs and several different RBs, but most of the same lineman on offense. Dan Snyder should just hire a good GM who will select a coach with a similar vision and then write checks and stay out of the way. He will never build a great team in Washington letting the star players call the shots. Shanahan, like Gibbs, was a proven SB winner, but neither of them could do more than make a playoff appearance under Snyder. Gibbs posted one playoff win and it was a close one in Tampa, but Gibbs should have done so much more with that team. It was RGIII that wrecked his own fate by staying in that playoff game when the Skins had a 14 advantage early in the game and Cousins on the bench. The next day Shanahan said he went the the guy that he felt gave them the best chance to win and that was bullshit. I know that Shanahan is smarter than that. What a major insult to Cousins saying that a crippled RGIII gives them a better chance of winning a game they had a 14 point advantage in than sending in Cousins? Shanahan knew that was a load of crap, but he was covering for the real mess going on. A disaster where he had a twenty something year old spoiled brat making the calls for a multimillion dollar franchise, but he knew he was going to be out of there soon and there was no use stirring up trouble. Dan Snyder’s Redskins became a place where aging coaches and players went to make huge sums of money before retiring from football, not a place to win championships. Most of the coaches and players had already done that and were no longer hungry for victory, just a large payday to set them up for life. It saddens me to know that the skins will never be great again in my lifetime. Snyder is one of the youngest owners in football and one of the richest, so he is going nowhere anytime soon. He is too hardheaded to ever see how he is the problem and will continue to let the superstar players call him and bitch about the coaches and then he will get the coaches straight. That is not how you run a football franchise. All of the fault for what happened to RGIII and every other player and coach that has run through Washington since the 1990s is ultimately the fault of Dan Snyder. He just can’t limit his involvement in the team and like all super rich people, he is surrounded with “yes men”, so there is no one to tell him the truth, he knows nothing about football and how to run an NFL franchise. Until he realizes that, things will never get better in Washington, they just continue to get worse.

Wolverine Smith WOW! That’s a whole lot of info about Snyder & the Skins. But...you lost me when you said RG3 ruined his own career by ‘staying in’ that playoff game. Hell, he’s still just a young, twenty-something, athlete playing his initial years in the Big League’s. It is the coach’s job to make the correct decisions for his players...Snyder or no Snyder. Would you have left that limping, struggling kid in the game? I wouldn’t!!

@@tangobango9653 yes, it's the playoffs

Viceroy Bear Sorry to hear that from an avid football fan. So if the Skins would’ve won THAT playoff game with a badly hobbled QB, how would he do in the next Playoff Game, the following week? And the week after that? Short-term thinking...there’s always next year for me, especially when your talking about a career ending injury to a young player with so much potential.

He was trash.

@@joemcnulty6814 How? The way I remember it he was one of the last people to take the redskins to the playoffs (save for Kirk cousins 2015 season, where he lost to green bay).

@@baileymcmanus1816 Once and it was his rookie year, he's trash, now he's a back up, unlike Andrew Luck who's better.

@@joemcnulty6814 I never claimed Luck was worse. All I said was Griffin WAS a good player. Which he very much was. Not a lot of players can claim they went to the playoffs their rookie year, especially quarterbacks. He was very good, he possess skills not a lot of people had. He's the one who got the browns their only win in the 2015-16 season. If that isn't saying something I don't know what is. And it's not that he's especially bad, he's just seen as fragile and not as good as Lamar, the only qb in front of him, because let's be honest, no one is going to start Flacco again.

@@baileymcmanus1816 Dan Marino Dolphins 1983 Bernie Kosar Browns 1985 Dieter Brock Rams 1985 Jim Everett Rams 1986 Ben Roethlisberger Steelers 2004 Matt Ryan Falcons 2008 Joe Flacco Ravens 2008 Mark Sanchez Jets 2009 Andy Dalton Bengals 2011 Andrew Luck Colts 2012 Russell Wilson Seahawks 2012

At least that part of his career went all right (think Jared).

No

Lmao yes. Before he even played a game.

On god😓

Talk about a hole in one

Brian Jones you’re just a hater. Lamar is a great player and the chances of that happening are very low. RGIII was the first of this story we’ve heard of in the NFL, why should it be a common in any quarterback in the NFL. Learn your facts bro.

@@willmeininger4150 STOP ENTERTAINING THESE BLATANT RACISTS WHO HIDE BEHIND SOCIAL MEDIA AND USES SPORTS AND SOCIAL MEDIA TO SHOW THEIR INSECURITIES WHICH CERTAIN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR IONS USING STEREOTYPES AND MAINSTREAM MEDIA'S DIVIDE AND CONQUER STRATEGIES!!!!!!!!!$ WAKE UP!!!!!!!

Kelvin Ellis take it easy man

@Brian Jones bruh shut the fuck up rg3 got injured in college which led to him getting worst in his pro day. Research what you saying

Ahmed M-A very true in all honesty I believe rg3 had/has more potential than Lamar Jackson

It was planned

Your Neighbor Amos now mark Sanchez is starting.

@Shorty facts

It was the redskins, shoulda seen this coming

His rookie year was my favorite season as a fan. He was so fun to watch. after that year it was downhill and I'm no longer a supporter of the team

*Washington football team*

Washington makes absolutely terrible decisions at QB. Jason Campbell, rg3, haskins. Honestly surprised they didnt go after Tua 😁😁 big L for washington, hopefully they keep haskin on the bench where he belongs, his back up is obviously better

John Connolly Kyle Allen is not better than Haskins and Haskins only had one game where he threw INTs. Other games he didn’t do bad.

@@rominer234 ok.. well in that case.. i hope Rivera puts haskins back in and keeps him under center for the next 10 years.. im sure if he does that the skins will win a lot of games 😁

John Connolly well I mean he is growing but Kyle Allen got traded for a reason. Idk how people can say Dwayne is going to learn from Allen lmao. They are just blowing smoke up their ass if they think Dwayne will learn anything from that guy😂😂

Yea, and TCU was a good program and he torched 'em.

A very understated, albeit accurate fact.

Except in bama where they’re humble and know they probably might not make it in the nfl lol

College players should be paid especially the one that played for big d-1 schools

Excellent point. Have you ever noticed how many Heismann winner's don't do well in the Pro's?

Tim tebow

@Chris Munoz Carr was trash well before Gruden came along.

Lol. Try not to embarrass yourself too much.

Wrong. Shanahan had to dumb down his playbook for RGIII. The guy is d7mb as a brick. Why c9 you think he ran so much? He had NO idea what was happening on the field and ran to save his life. You’re only going to get away with that for so long.

NVR liked RG3,or Kapernick, Kapernick had great coaching RG3 didnt simple as that.

@@MikeyReadman Carr was mvp canidate just 3 seasons ago stfu

You mean "not while his legs are still working"....

Jackson is going to get injured sooner or later, RG3 can prove himself then

The coach never helped though, some of those play calls

Unfortunately, he probably won't have the same comeback.

Fifty Faces of Manning D Rose never had a comeback sure he had some moments like his game winner against Cleveland but he’s never been the same since that one injury and he could’ve been so much more today

Des Mcmahon brilliant comparison.

@@jasonchilado D Rose is averaging 20 right now, he's making his comeback right now

@* E F * Bringer of Light do you call your deer hunting friends psychopaths?

Lol true💯

1/2 savage big difference between deer hunting and dog fighting.

maybe lamar jackson? *keeps fingers crossed*

@@Zekeer2007 huge difference....the dogs have a Fighting chance

@bass reemer how can you say he had no arm 🤦🏼‍♂️

Got figured out. Do you need the list of these guys. Lamar Jackson is the most recent. He is done . RPO qb’s have an 18 month shelf life. It should be shorter. Athletic qb’s never learn accuracy.

bass reemer Cordell Stewart, Vince Young, RG3 etc

@@garychiasson935 yeah mostly running Qb’s. Mahomes can throw.

Jora Music RG3 was never going to be good. He had a bad knee injury at Baylor. That was not the problem. He was a great hurdler , world class . These types of players never learn to make tight throws. Their scrambling ability in college gives their WR’s huge separation. Not so in the nfl . People keep referencing Mahomes. Mahomes is a pure gifted thrower , his legs make him quite possibly the best ever. Time will tell.

bruh, don't lower your shoulder

MATH LOVER exactly! That's something missing from the video, RG3 not knowing how to slide and the hit by Haloti Ngata against the Ravens that caused the injury during the regular season.

Like Willie Beamen in Any Given Sunday

Yeah I'm surprised that it wasn't discussed in this video as to how he was getting hit an awful lot throughout his rookie season--much more than what you'd want for a QB.

And? When was the last time Lamar slide? Nothing happened to him. So maybe it is the coaching and management.

I detest SHANAHAN for ruining this young star’s NFL Career. RG3 was really something special. The Coach sees RG3 limping around YET leaves him in?

Bronco he’s with Baltimore as backup

His dumb decision to keep playing like he could take hits from the NFL players. That’s why he got banged up overall.

Chance the Rapper #1 fan yeah I know but he’s 3rd string

Bronco 3rd string and he got a tiny shot yesterday’s game

If I remember correctly when he was with the Skins If I remember correctly when he was with the Skins Shanahan benched his ass because he refused to stay in the pocket and pass the ball....Scramble, scramble.....Eventually, that scrambling shit is either going to get you benched or injured... He got both...

Luck did that most of the time also. Kind of explains alot...

Because his of (offensive linemen) wearnt protecting him and was letting him get hit. That's why he left redskins

@Eric Van by that time his leg was a weak point, he probably figured his shoulder and head were stronger than his leg.

@@DriaLii Yes, theyre the coach. They are responsible for identifying and correcting errors in the players they coach

Dria Li Is that a serious question?

Kirk was a way better passer. After that season he had when rg3 got hurt you couldnt go back. Cant blame Kirk for wanting out after all the BS.

2 new legs lol

Duane Bailey and what is his bum ass doing with the Vikings

They have always favored cousins period. They should have let someone else take him in. You see how quick they dismiss a quarterback. Redskins will forever be cursed. Don't know what would lift it. So many injures in one season this year. RG3 still has potential just needs a team willing to take him.

And all he had to do was talk to the Nationals baseball team .

you know you could have just said Shanahan ruined him and you would have gotten a similar amount of likes

@@nikhil261 Your comment is unnecessary.

@@AaronSaysSKOL ik but i've seen so many similar comments, they are all desperate for likes.

@I’m wrong but ok

#Facts

im watching it before

I am.

Me

Me

Halo Hawk me

totally agree I was saying the same thing I'll never forget that game

Democrats are cunts your point?

Me too. Httr

Teo Ortiz me too.. coming from a huge rose fan and an ex huge bulls fan .. I say ex because of the two clown idiots running that team to the ground .. will not follow the bulls let alone the nba until the two clowns are gone!

well said, mate!🇳🇿🐨🏈

Agree

I totally disagree. He did get a big head young dumb. He got hit a lot bunch of cheap shots after he was already headed to the sidelines. The team didn't protect his job if he's your future don't make the youngsta feel like he has to rush back from that injury if not for that play skinz wouldn't have a chance to make the playoffs. Same type of hit and situation Carson Went is in. Should have came out of the vs Seattle was up 14. The team needs that man back that's why other fans run the stadium

While yes, the issue is that his game never evolved, he also essentially lost an arm in a fight. Getting injured in that playoff game made him a shell of his former self. If he were able to evolve, he could stay relevant. But that's easier said than done, for all yall who play sports out there, you know what your strong suit is and how to get to it. His strong suit was taken from him.

@@miguelhidalgo9543 it was...his legs. He seems to have his throwing arm back

It wasn't the same old RG3 that we saw back then, as expected. But it was awesome to see him take the field again.

RG winning percentage is about 10% as a starter. You’ve been sucked into the hype, and the truth is that RG is terribly inaccurate. NFL defenses adapt and eventually stop running QB’s who are incapable passers. That’s the RG story.

@@donnieshelton591 tbh I don’t think he ever recovered from his rookie season, he put up good completion and good yards but after that he just didn’t have that same fire

nanaglo4545 You’re probably right. I always thought that Coach Shananagins was a bit of a dick!

That was just the tip. After the injury they wanted him to be a pocket passer

He beat the cowboys while hopping around in one leg then they threw him in against the best defense in football at the time. While still hopping around on one leg.

He didn't want to come off and avoided the physios on the side line. I think he should never have started the game, because he could barely walk. But he felt too threatened by Cousins to sit. Plenty of blame to go around on this one.

@@shotgunner5514 A good coach would have recognised his talent and listened to the player when he is saying he shouldnt be running. A good example is look at what the Seahawks did with Russell Wilson after he injured himself. The read option is barely in their playbook now, and Wilson is in the pocket much more often. Shanahan didnt give a rats ass about RG3's long term health, he just had the shortsighted goal of the performing well right then. Now Wilson is known as a top tier QB and RG3 is a backup that most people dont even know is still in the league. It could have gone very different for RG3 if he just worked on his throw and poise in the pocket.

Killeen? Temple?

@@mrtony80 McGregor

ZanMan27F5 • he’s played a few drives in the last few weeks, his contract is up at the end of the year and I promise you he will be on another team starting within a year

@@izaiahbowers1515 In D.C. with another Head Coach hopefully.

gaaramookow he’s slid several times and has ran out of bounds to avoid hits several times in Baltimore.

or pocket pass.....or set his feet...or read a defense.....the surprise would be if he HAD a long career

Are you from or in Texas! I hate he didn't pursue track and field. He broke the Texas state record of Rio's Olympics 400 Hurdler Kerron Clement,who eventually won Gold in Rio!!!

The state of the field in that game was criminal

He got shanahanned

For real that field during that game was embarrassing

I remember screaming at the TV that day. It was incredulous that they left him in that game until his leg completely broke off.

@@rrdt Didn't they send him into a shed on the sidelines to get a shot of some painkillers ?

Same

Same! Both RU-vidrs are lit asf

Same

Same

That’s because you’re all idiots

Welcome to the NFL is what the players said to RG3 this isn't college ball anymore, RG3 should have known better, hey live and learn huh.

Lies lies lies . mike tried to bench him to let him heal before the season started and rg3 made passive aggressive comments to media that made local fans and local media accuse mike of lying about him being hurt and wanting to sabatoge him cause he black . then in the playoff game when mike tried to sit him when it was clear he was hurt rg3 ran on the field and refused to come off the field . than when the next season started mike wanted him to sit to heal from acl surgery and rg3 started a media firestorm by saying he was healthy and even had his doctor lie and say he was healthy . this was all aided by Dan Snyder who dumb ass applied pressure to mike to start him or ELSE. Rg3 made his bed he has to lay in it

Christopher Bingham it’s your Franchise QB he’s limping and hurting it’s the Coaches job to sit a player I saw that game It was a shame mike should of took him out

realone504 exactly they could’ve taken his helmet away from him like they do when players have concussions and force him to sit out if especially if he’s your supposed franchise QB. I don’t care players are always gonna wanna play no matter how hurt they are it’s up to the coach especially a hall of fame coach to preserve your future period

Christopher Bingham man the Doctors could of took his Helmet they can bench players too ya know especially when you see a player hurt

Wassergekuhlt The QB rules don’t apply when a QB is a runner. RGIlls problem is that he never learned to take advantage of them. He ran like a running back and he took big hits for it. He didn’t slide very much

Too bad RG3 played in the Big 12 and they didn't know what getting hit was about

*flag

It’s football. It’s a CONTACT sport. He was way too small and weak to be taking hits in general in the NFL. Go watch soccer if you want to see no one get hit.

the dude got hurt when just running out of bounds. had nothing to do with getting hit. he sucked and was one year wonder. once the league watched tapes, they knew how to defend him. and he was so fragile. you look at him and he gets hurt. I'm really REALLY surprised he didn't get hurt playing the end of the ravens game.

xXJBrutalXx lol a egg shell

😂🤣😂😂😂 the redskins are the reel eggs how many times have redskins been to playoffs

Charles Polm 24 times.

My bad in last 20 years 😂🤣😂

@@hamabrewer24 times in 80 somthing years shut up yall suck

Too scared if you asked me. That knee injury made him want to change his game in less than a year but it doesn't happen like that. He's the type who would have to let his passing game evolve instead of switch on overnight- thats what he tried to do when he told shanahan he wanted to pass more and run less but shanahan told him he wasn't there yet. Deshaun Watson admitted he played kinda scared this past year too but he still performed at a high level with 4000yds 26tds 9ints and 500yds 5tds rushing. Heading into 2019 fully healthy with a full season under his belt, he's fully confident heading into 2019.

Like Wentz now.

KKHHHAAANNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!

False Steve young Mike Vick elway Russell Wilson cam Newton etc he's just skinny if he would have put on about 25-30 pounds he would've been oo

almighty Montana Mike Vick and Cam have had their share of injuries. The defense is bigger, faster, and stronger than they were in the 80’s and 90’s. It’s a death sentence in today’s game

@@therhythm1395 getting injured comes whith the game just like Randall Cunningham said if I ever get injured it's because I'm in the pocket

@@therhythm1395 Vick never had any season ending real bad injury's most QBs get hurt in the pocket them qb hits and sacks are no joke Lamar Jackson seems to avoid collision tho

@@therhythm1395 and nah the game was way more ruthless and agressive in the 80s and 90s dude what are you talking about lol

RGIII is Johnny football without cocaine.

Probs can start for the dolphins or bengals rn... even the redskins

Id made him in Madden 20

Nah he needs to be the backup in Baltimore for the rest of his career. The MVP needs a good backup.

He started against the Steelers last week, he did alright. He won’t ever be the same again, but he’ll at least always be a solid backup

Hell naw

@Captain Cor Santana Moss was a freak - he was on the Jets for a while - little guy but if the ball came within 5 yards of his body, he caught it. Defenders were almost irrelevant. Even the few highlights here you see him make some unreal catches, and he just gets up for the next play, no hotdogging nonsense.

CoLatrL.Damg3 He’s one of the skins greats. He stuck around for years.

R Fletcher No Tom Brady turned decent receivers into pro bowlers but ab Hopkins and Julio can’t turn a justin Winston into a sb mvp

tom brady has had 457 different receivers and he's been fine for two decades now

But it takes time sometimes. You go watch film of cousins and i could argue the same thing. Hell Andy Dalton was mediocre in the passing game till like the 6 season in the league. The difference between Dalton and Rg3 tho is that there was a committment to Dalton and there wasnt one with Griffin because the constantly with other qbs.

Also having a crappy coach

The coaches wanted RGIII to take it easy , RGIII was the one pushing to get back on the field , throwing his coach under the bus and getting him fired. When a player is more excited about their socks than learning a playbook you know his career is in trouble . Skins drafted Cousins the same year as RGIII ........tells you something right there .

@luis _ Year after RGIII got hurt , media asked RGIII if hes ready ? RGIII said " yeah im ready " . Media ask RGIII , Why ain't you playing more snaps in pre season then if your ready ? RGIII says " Coaches decision " Then every time RGIII doesn't want to answer a question from the media......" Coaches decision " . Just like baby Marshawn Lynch at the Super Bowl " Im only here so I don't get fined " comment . It all becomes childish after awhile . Players want money but they don't want to talk to the media . I said it before and Ill say it again .......RGIII was way more worried about what socks he was wearing than worrying about learning a playbook . RGIII basically got Mike Shannahan fired by repeatedly throwing him under the bus. If RGIII had Shannahan back it might be different. the Redskins made one of the all time stupid decisions to trade a ton of draft picks to the Rams for RGIII. How did that trade turn out for the Rams ? Yeah it freaking set them up to build a Super Bowl type roster. RGIII was a big bust .

Jimmy Jones You about as stupid as can be, aren’t ya little buddy?

@@RandyandArt Your name sounds like you pack the fudge , Mr Genius.

"The whole world loves it when you ACL makes that sound"

ikr, plus Brady can't run for shit.

@Shorty He was out for a season while injured. It's not like he's gone unscathed for 20 years. His O-Line has just been incredible for the better part of his career. I'm more amazed Ben Roethlisberger is still playing. Steelers had a pretty bad offensive line until like 2012. Dude is just a tank.

he got hurt playing the ravens tho

Tom Brady protects himself very well. You see others doing the same like Brees and the Manning brothers just to name a few. When they feel there gonna get hit they just take a dive. Some people say that’s cowardice but when you have a career like an NFL QB it pays to be reliable and that’s what their preserving, their reliability.

Also, Eli Manning

Vince M. Being on the Browns was a disaster for RG3

Raghava Matta yep

Well the Browns made a good choice going for Mayfield and firing Jackson

This joke is old. The Browns aren’t a bad team anymore. Hue Jackson is gone. They will be in the playoffs next season

@@themilwaukeebrewerswillnev7545 thats what we thought in oakland in 2016 too and look at us now Bad teams will find a way to stay bad