HEAD TO HEAD - Peavey 5150 vs 6505 - Are They Really The Same?!

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@erichughes1166 3 года назад

If he was more famous , Matt Damond could play him.

@PapaWheelie1 3 года назад

He’s Ratt Damon - the hard rocking metal Damon brother 👍

@apoplexiamusic 3 года назад

Not only his face, but his voice too!

@bodielancaster7952 2 года назад

Holy crap he does sound like him!

@alanwoodwind5265 2 года назад

Who's Matt Damond?

@erichughes1166 2 года назад

@@alanwoodwind5265 he’s that guy from those movies.

@if6turnedouttobe9 3 года назад

Two of the best sounding amps ever made...The resonance knob was brilliant...

@davel_ggw 3 года назад

Nailed it, same amp! As you said, component tolerances, which apply to different amps of the exact same make/model too, is all there is. And you covered what I think gets most people, that the taper of potentiometers differs, so just setting them identical on two of the same amps can result in a slight difference, but it's not because the amp's circuits are different, with slight tweaks to the knobs they will sound identical.

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

You got it man, it's wild people still argue this to me

@INTROBUST 3 года назад

Love this. I know it’s been said before but there’s never been a good comparison before to prove the haters wrong lmao

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

I'm waiting for someone to come in and tell me they listened on their $4,000 monitors in their $20,000 treated room and let me know all the reasons I'm wrong. LOL

@operationkickass1049 3 года назад

Good video, what kills me is the people who (since Eddie's passing) have jacked the price on the 5150's to ridiculous numbers. The sound difference is so minuscule and I think the 6505 is slightly better. Also people don't take into account that components wear out over time so you could by an over inflated 5150 and it will sound like crap and cost even more to get it up to par if it's never been maintained properly (i.e. caps, transformers, tubes and the like)

@MichaelDespairs Год назад

@@belligerentamateur James Brown already did: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PzOhq3-3d90.html

@monsterk7603 3 года назад

Great video! First time I've seen a comparison like this to demonstrate that there is basically no difference. I have a handfull of great high gain heads, but always seem to gravitate to my 6505+. I really heard little differences....until you tweaked the eq, then, BOOM. Same amp. New sub! \,,/

@kingpriapatius5832 3 года назад

Great video. I own the 6505 and I'm extremely satisfied. The tone is huge, the gain is controllable and it plays perfectly well with active/passive pickups (Fishman Modern hub and Dimarzio Evolution 7). The clean channel is also not that bad as many people say (maybe it doesn't sound good with EMG's). The crunch mode is not really that good but I don't use it a lot so it's ok. The only real problem is the FX loop. One of the best advantages of the 5150/6505 is that it plays well with most cabs, which is not always the case for other amps.

@linovinn7011 3 года назад

This video opened my eyes (and ears ;-) ). Same schematics -> same sound (minus tolerances in the components which is everywhere in analog gear). Thanks a lot for your efforts!

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

Glad it helped!

@kevindavid37 3 года назад

They sound exactly the same. Great video to prove it. No bullshit. 🙏

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

That's what I aim for man. Thanks for hanging out!

@tylert812 Год назад

Picking up a 6505 in great condition for 400$ next week. As usual your vids absolutely rock.

@psycheadfuzzfreak830 6 месяцев назад

An og 6505???

@tylert812 6 месяцев назад

@@psycheadfuzzfreak830 yup! Absolutely rocks

@psycheadfuzzfreak830 6 месяцев назад

@@tylert812 wow that’s a deal!! Lucky dude !

@tylert812 6 месяцев назад

@@psycheadfuzzfreak830 definitely got lucky! Eventually I’ll upload some videos playing through it.

@GuitarsAndSynths Месяц назад

great deal! get a boost OD pedal and noise gate and you will have a killer setup.

@chuckjames4547 3 года назад

Good video bro subed. Of course they're the same amp. Peavey still had the patent on the amp. Eddie only took the name when he went to fender for amps. Rediculous how much prices on 5150 have gone up though.

@resistorstudios 3 года назад

I have the 5150, script logo, its really really good.... I have repaired and played a Voodoo modded one as well, it was bonkers, but there is something special about a stock one

@P93kees 2 года назад

Owned both. Both sounded so wonderful! The best amps I’ve ever owned!

@TheSoulflytriber 3 года назад

Every stock 6505 or 5150 is original because the bias settings can be different. There is no chance to adjust bias to hot or cold side so it is driven by power tubes. Even the same brand matched tubes can give you different values. If it is not very low or very high it is ok (for Peavey factory). New stock 6505 can be in 35% to 65% bias range and if you choose two 6505, they can sound different on the same settings.

@briandietrich1373 2 года назад

Very true, There is a bias mod one can install in these amps. I did it on my 5150II. Made a big diff in cleaning up the clean channel BTW

@nomis777 2 года назад

They are great bass amps as well Ive have a few since 1991. The first was a block letter evh . It had eletro harmonics tubes so it did sound more articulate The newer amps are made in china I think very different

@xiwiwix 3 года назад

It could also be the caps on the 5150 as to why it didn't sound as big on the same settings. Those are so old by now, it's getting time for all of them to need a cap refresh. That's why I always recommend anyone buying these, to get a newer or as new as possible 6505 because they're the same dang thing.

@cbsaulren 3 года назад

Love my 6505+ My first tube amp was an ibanez thermion. Never really heard many tube amps before. One day I come across a used 6505+ at GC and thought I'd see what the hype was about. Needless to say she went home with me that day.

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

They're just good, easy to play and dial in amps

@TVoltG 3 года назад

A 5150/6505 are great amps.

@michaelmaier7262 2 года назад

Watched a video with James Brown (I think on Dave Freidman's channel?) and it was a blast hearing him talk about developing the 5150 1 and 2 with Eddie. I keep thinking I should get one of those but I don't play enough to warrant another dang amp.

@mayhem4830 3 года назад

Great Video. I have been looking to add the original 5150 to my collection but looks like now I can save some money and grab a 6505 🤘😎

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

Yeah baby, spend smart. Leave the bragging rights to the internets!

@raytorvalds3699 6 месяцев назад

Slight difference that you will get forget after 5 seconds, like you said. I'm picking up a 6505+ tomorrow. Super stoked!

@derektassie1479 2 года назад

Just bought a 6505+ becuase of this video. Great analysis man. My explorer was the first one to be played through it!

@belligerentamateur 2 года назад

Hell yeah!!

@lucwilson1 3 года назад

Hell yeah! Been looking forward to this! :)

@MC-dj7ri 2 года назад

Awesome Vid! Was this recorded with the camera mic or with a mic/interface/daw?

@djabthrash 3 месяца назад

Great video

@joshellacott 3 года назад

Great vid man!! I’ve got the 6505 and 5150 block letter and the 6505+. I’ve spent the last two weeks comparing the block against the 6505 through my two notes live in recording, same cabs and mics etc.. definitely agree the signature above is the same.. but seriously the block does sound different (in a recording to my ears) it sounds more out of control and growlier.. much looser and more scooped.. also is much louder than the 6505 when comparing volumes.. is that because of aged, drifting components and a different bias? Probably..

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

All comes down to tubes and part tolerances my man! No matter the era, they will all sound just a little bit different due to these factors. If you have one you love, go with it!

@kreepthedestroyer 2 года назад

this is the best comparison vid of these amps I've seen thank you. my old guitarist had a 5150 but ran it on 2 tubes and hated his tone. later down the line I got a 6505 off a guy in nz that was made in USA and converted. it was also used by the black dahlia murder its stock with no mods and sounds killer

@belligerentamateur 2 года назад

These amps are so great in stock form!

@Ottophil 2 года назад

Theres no point to pulling tubes

@derek.7 3 года назад

Great Demo, Love the 6505/5150 amps

@jamescassidy4045 Год назад

Great Video Bro!!!!!

@sheldonswan45 3 года назад

Try a Sovtek LPS in the phase inverter 🤘🏻great vid once again!

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

That's part of the secret sauce! Haha. I just don't have any extras at the moment to throw in these amps, but that's a great PI tube

@paulkielt9301 2 года назад

It would be interesting to hear one of those amps with EL34s. But it's not sure the transformers can handle four of those power tubes. Just because EL34s draw more current than 6L6s. It also depends if pin 1 is tied to ground and what are the values of the grid resistors. Of course the bias will need to be properly adjusted. Maybe that's too much for some people?

@Shawn70Seven 3 года назад

Nice comparison. Cool explorer!

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

Thanks man! Haven't touched my explorers in a year, I figured they deserve a comeback! Lol

@AngryTonesRiffClips 3 года назад

Excellent review and A/B test! Same amp! James Brown is a genius!

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

Agreed, I'm still a 5150 nut after all these years and amps!

@markolivares6943 2 года назад

I’ve have my 6505 since 2014 and it’s never let me down. I play at home with the volume cranked at 2 with no boost. Pre 5.5 Low 2.5 Mid 6 high5.5 Post 2.0 Resonance 2.5 Presence 5 🤘🏽

@rec99cts27 3 года назад

Good job! 👍

@misterkenova6695 2 года назад

late to the channel. Sick stuff dude. Cheers!

@portuguesebeer5069 3 года назад

Fuck yeah! Loved this video! Awesome tones and the guitar is cool too! I have subscrived! Id love to see you reviewing the 6505MH. Do you have any review? Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘🇵🇹

@Jihadbearzwithgunz 2 года назад

I think the tone differences are simply pot variation most pots will have a 10% +- the set value in best case senerio were as they can be off as much as 20% depending on the manufacturer of the pot. Why when I install pots into instruments I always test them with my multimeter first and pair them up as close as they can be.

@gunnerman5435 3 года назад

Mmm the 6505 sounded better to me . Maybe tubes were newer . Was listening with earphones

@riccovrea841 3 года назад

Nice.....the only thing is your beating the piss out of your Explorer with pick scratches 🤣 keep up the cool videos ✌🏻

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

If you don't beat them, do you really love them? This is definitely about guitars.

@shovington67 2 года назад

This really helped.

@NunoRomeo Год назад

Thanks.

@akarawd 3 года назад

Brilliantly done

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

My man!

@BuHeTy 3 года назад

Awesome tone!

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

Thank you!!

@RenalDistress 3 года назад

Thanks for beating the dead horse. Some people still don't believe the horse is dead

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

I'm about to beat an even dead-er horse and do the Block Letter vs Script video haha

@davidvicars6688 3 года назад

Rumors get started on the internet, and soon others get behind the rumors, and it starts to spread like a wildfire, then someone comes along, and puts out the fire, showing that the rumors were just that, rumors. Thanks for comparing these amps, and showing that they are exactly the same, with just a few slight tweaks here and there. If your looking to get one of these monster amps, just find the best deal you can get, and let-r-rip, I love my 6505+ head. I traded my Laney GH100 head for it, and couldn't be happier.

@austineldridge6361 3 года назад

3:47 best part 😂 totally agree though buy the $400 6505 instead of $1000+ 5150 people!!

@swampman543211 3 года назад

Where are you finding 6505’s for 400? I must know

@TheDistortionPrinciple 3 года назад

@@swampman543211 same, im getting one for 650 cause can't find any cheaper haha

@DeathMetalGuitar 3 года назад

thank you Matt Damon - love your playing!🔥🖤🤘 btw... what was your signal chain.... IR or Mesa Trad412?

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

SM57 on the V30 in the Traditional 412!

@DeathMetalGuitar 3 года назад

@@belligerentamateur sounded GREAT🖤🔥🤘😡🤘🖤🔥

@MrCoalmin 2 года назад

Hey dude I think it might be a good idea to add some lighting so we can see your eyes better

@josephbutler148 3 года назад

Should have tested the noise floor on both but well done

@Yellowcard7572 3 года назад

I actually picked up a used peavey 6505 and honestly it’s one of the amps I’ve been wanting for so so so so so long, got it for about $600 and I seriously couldn’t be any happier with that thing it’s seriously very ferocious sounding and just a damn beast overall! What’s your settings on both amps? Would love to know man! Keep it up!

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

They're THE metal amp for a reason man! They're just untamed beasts. Love them. I usually run somewhere around 6-6-6- on the EQ, presence around 8 and resonance around 6, Pre gain at 3 with a boost out front!

@markolivares6943 2 года назад

I got mine through a guitar trade and the amp was practically brand new. Dude didn’t want it since it had to much gain for his taste. Glad I made the trade. I also swapped out the power tubes for some 6l6 JJ’s as well as in the pre amp section and the amp sound a bit tighter 🤘🏽

@Yellowcard7572 2 года назад

@@markolivares6943 Sounds like you got real lucky sir (;

@Xzvsc 2 года назад

For clean tone versatility , which is better, 6505+ vs mesa mini rectifier?

@JacobYoces 3 года назад

This was an interesting video. I own both a USA made 6505+ and an original 5150 block letter. The 5150 sounds a little more scooped and overall just better and smoother. The 6505+ is really harsh and bright. I have to dial the treble, presence, and mid controls waay back to get it to sound similar to the 5150. Even then, there's a little difference. Idk if it's because my 6505 is the + version and my 5150 is the regular version, but they are not at all the same amp. However, your amps sound almost identical

@rugbyguitargod 2 года назад

that's because the amp in his video is a 6505, not a 6505+ 6505=5150 6505+=5150 II

@IsaacLausell 2 года назад

If there where a 6505 and a 6505+ available which would you choose?

@ehoc42 3 года назад

Question for FAQ’n Friday. Would you go with an original EVH 5150 III 6L6 50 watt or a Peavey 5150/6505 (assuming they cost the same). I have the EVH and am always loving the sound when I hear someone playing a peavey.

@ehoc42 3 года назад

I also don’t really care about Eddie himself. Might be opportunistic, but I’m thinking it’s a good time to sell the EVH and get a 6505 if it’s indeed a better amp.

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

I'll definitely answer

@Joe-vc3cc 3 года назад

Love your vids dude! So what about the 6505+ was there a difference there?

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

Thanks man! Yes, there is definitely a difference between the + and regular, they're different designs

@Joe-vc3cc 3 года назад

Awesome could you maybe do the 6505+plus Vs 5150!! Love your work 🤘🏼

@thehoppo 3 года назад

we all like our tunes nice and warm!

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

Power Tunes , man. They're the best

@stratelite1337 22 дня назад

Difference is only unit variation in the pots.

@bodielancaster7952 2 года назад

I’m curious what drop d would have sounded like

@7th-Son-Of-A-7th-Son 2 года назад

The only thing that's noticeable to me personally was that the 5150 seemed to have a smidge less saturation than the 6505, and that's about it lol other than that, they sound identical.

@MrDillon08 3 года назад

Yeah but is there a difference between the block letter and the signature? (There isnt)

@ramseyarthur 3 года назад

5150 is clearer which was my experience with the 5150II vs the 6505+ Both good. The older is my preference due to a clearer sound. Could it be tubes? Maybe but it’d be pretty coincidental given your two examples have the same results as mine

@MichaelDespairs Год назад

The super earliest 5150 heads have a different circuit. Maybe only the block letter or maybe some of the script but at some point Eddie had them all tweaked.

@rnm4571 2 года назад

They sounds a bit different. What about reliability?

@DaltonPeters1 3 года назад

Maybe I'm going crazy but the 6505 did sound very slightly more saturated to me. Probably just pot tolerance etc. They definitely are identical though lol

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

I can hear it at points for sure! Those damn tolerances! Haha.

@Rooster7six 3 года назад

I have a nonplus 6505 and it gets BRUTAL! I had a 5150 Block letter but didn’t have them at the same time to A/B. Both amazing amps. I definitely Regret selling that 5150 now!

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

I've bought and sold probably 10 block letters in the last 10 years. I would have stockpiled them had I have known how much the value would skyrocket

@Rooster7six 3 года назад

@@belligerentamateur man I got mine for $550 last year on Reverb!!!

@sumgui6010 Год назад

Thank you, just the video I needed to prove some idiots wrong.

@NobotyBoi 3 года назад

....should do a shootout with the Invective 120 also

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

On the list!

@billyhiggs6332 2 года назад

right on...sounds the same to me

@hatespirit 2 года назад

You can also find same differences with same amp, two 5150's or two 6505's.

@Beardrolls 3 года назад

Yeah the 6505 and signature sound the same but we all know the block letter sounds better..... btw you’re the only guy I’ve ever heard talk about tolerance in the parts, that’s always what you’re hearing when you hear two of the same pieces of gear sound different.

@JC-11111 3 года назад

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@snapascrew 3 года назад

Block letter sounds better? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@mmhutchinson 3 года назад

There was a huge difference between my friends 5152 and my recently sold 6505+. We played it threw the same cabinet with an aby although they had different tubes the difference of the amps was astonishing. The 5150ii had the nice low mids everyone loves while the 6505+ was very harsh. I didn’t hear any difference Kyle in your two amps man but I swear my 6505+ must have had something wrong with it. Please give me your input when you get the chance.

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

Hey man! It could have been a number of things. Component tolerances are usually what account for most of the differences. There's also the possibility of cold solders in the 6505 plus, or bad / worn out tubes

@mmhutchinson 3 года назад

@@belligerentamateur thanks 🙏 Kyle you are awesome! I feel a connection with you because you always answer my questions with knowledge. I will continue watching your awesome vids. Cant wait to see what is next.

@slayerdude18 2 года назад

the only difference i hear is that the 6505 is slightly brighter tone but its very subtle

@charliegearhart2561 8 месяцев назад

But the BLOCK letter sounds different from both of those😅

@evilnudibranch 3 года назад

I've been wondering about the transtube heads that Jame Brown developed, like the xxl, do you have any experience with them?

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

I have! The XXL is an EXCELLENT solid state amp. Hell, it's an excellent amp, period. I had one 2 years ago, bought for $100 and kind of wish I'd just kept the damn thing. They're basically the Solid State brother to the Ultra Series, XXX. Snag one if you find it under $200. I also had an old Teal Stripe Supreme 160 which was excellent as well.

@evilnudibranch 3 года назад

Cool, thanks for replying! I've got a mode 4 cab that I've had since new, ditched the terrible head but kept the cab and have been recently thinking of getting an affordable head for it.

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

@@evilnudibranch I have 3 of the mode 4 cabs. Great choice man. The xxl would suit them well.

@evilnudibranch 3 года назад

Word, thanks dude!

@rocknropes 3 года назад

Are you the love child of John Cena and Matt Damon? Haha, seriously, great video!

@thehoppo 3 года назад

Could be fun to compare Chinese 6505 vs USA 6505, (assuming your 6505 here is USA?) I have seen a few comparisons but no really good ones like this one

@JaimeNoro 3 года назад

Really interested in this too. I know the new chinese 6505 ships with different transformers. And we know the overall construction quality might be different so, yeah, very legit request.

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

I'll try and see if I can find one! This one is a USA Model. I'm down to do whatever people want to see and think would be helpful. I'm going to do a shootout like this for the 6505+ head and the 6065+ 112 Combo soon as well!

@JaimeNoro 3 года назад

@Eric Lussier all the 6505 line (and almost all Peavey stuff, I reckon) has been produced in China since 2015. The +112 combo was the first one before that, the rest followed that year. I bought the +112 combo roughly when they came out (2012 maybe?). It's a good amp, but those early ones had some quality issues, it seems. It lacks a bit of balls compared to the big heads (I now use the 120 watts 6505), but it'll give you the 6505+ tone, especially if you run an eq on the effects loop to give it extra oomph.

@lordgraga 3 года назад

@@belligerentamateur hope to hear that 112+ comparrison! I have a 112+ converted to head, one video on my channel so far. Sounds different to the 5150/6505 for sure, but that likely had more to do with being a Plus.

@97warlock 2 года назад

small difference is a difference. at what point in smallness do we no longer count the difference as adifference. - as long as it different,its a difference .. around 4:35 the change brought slight increase in presense, noticable increase.

@belligerentamateur 2 года назад

Just like the video says, differences in tolerances are not a difference in design. That's the answer, you're asking a dead question.

@97warlock 2 года назад

@@belligerentamateur the dead question part has me stumped. are you saying my question of "at what point of smallness do we not count the difference as a difference"? its not dead or alive, its just valid. each of us may have different opinions of what we consider small ,difference. ,thats all. and you said sometinhg about You cant tell any difference,so I mentioned at that part I do hear a difference. .....small large, not important, important, . no biggie imo.

@nuclearpurification7260 2 года назад

Both are Brilliant, all hail James Brown , RIP EVH.

@bwarrant 2 года назад

They are pretty similar.

@jesusalucard3933 3 года назад

What you recommend me dude buy the 5150 or 6505 , but combo versions

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

Hey man, I'm sorry but I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Can you clarify and I'll try to help?

@jesusalucard3933 3 года назад

@@belligerentamateur sorry for my english man im from México 😂 What you recomend me to buy, 5150 combo or 6505 combo or what other amp🤔

@lucwilson1 3 года назад

Where's the block letter brigade?? lol

@rhythmless1 3 года назад

You can hear subtle differences close mic'd in the recording but would never notice any of that in a live room. FWIW I think the 6505 sounds better in this demo.

@ramseyarthur 3 года назад

As someone who is almost completely a studio player that gives the nod to the one that sounds better mic’ed up

@seanriley9045 3 года назад

Hi Kyle. Is the 6505 plus the same circuit overall as well?

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

The 6505+ would be the same circuit as the 5150II !

@seanriley9045 3 года назад

Thanks man. Loving your content. Also, can you chime in on how it is these 6505 amps are being made in the USA but come in at a fairly low price compared to other USA made brands? In Canada the basic 6505 is only 1299... dual recs are 3k...Thanks again I’ll be watching your vids every time you release one.

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

@@seanriley9045 Sean, the 6505 actually has not been made in the USA for I think 5 or 6 years now. They have been overseas produced for quite a while. I bought this one used locally

@iwannarockon2010 3 года назад

Sounds pretty much the same. 6505 maybe a slight warmer🤘

@Martinb336 2 года назад

Tengo un 5150, prove mano a mamo ambos, suenan igual.

@jackslayers 2 года назад

After he tweak on 3.30 the sound are dead same😂😂😂.....

@christopherallen5603 2 года назад

In all fairness, it's like the argument of whether wood material in a guitar body makes a difference in tone.. I don't know what pickups you're running but if they're over 12k at the bridge or active (especially ceramic magnets) there is going to be less of a noticable change. They are indeed the same amp and the biggest difference between the two would be if the 5150 has a s**t ton of hours with the components aging. However it's not like old Fender or Marshalls where older technology in parts drifted values a lot more. The transformers what I can tell aren't much different, even though James stated the first block letter run versions were a little beefier, but the current ones are still pretty stout.

@sbrave 3 года назад

both sound better than the EVH heads

@Turbo-D 3 года назад

check also the bias, very important!

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

You can't adjust the bias on these amps my man.

@Turbo-D 3 года назад

@@belligerentamateur first of all, 90% of 6505 /5150 out there have bias mod installed, its just one resistor to swap. otherwise you can choose between hotter and colder tubes. "check" means that he just have to look if both amps are biased nearly the same, of not, this will be the answer why they sound little different in the power section. i have peaveys with stock bias of just 16ma, other hat 35ma..

@heavymetalampspedals9204 3 года назад

Great video, can you compare the block 5150 vs the script?

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

Absolutely. I just need to find a stock Block Letter. Mine has the FJA Metal Mod so it wouldn't work.

@snapascrew 3 года назад

I’ll save you the trouble. They’re identical. Sincerely, James brown. The guy who designed the amp. (Not me, I’m quoting him tho).

@celticviking2319 2 года назад

They sound the same.....how do you like them apples? 🍎

@lucwilson1 3 года назад

6505 shootout vs Badlander please

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

Consider it done. Well, within a couple weeks. Lol

@GuitarsAndSynths Месяц назад

I owned a Peavey 6505 for a while and played EVH 5150 amps and no way they sound very different in terms of gain structure, compression, saturation and feel. The 6505 needs a clean boost to tighten up the low end and EQ pedal or it sounds like a wet blanket fart. With boost, noise gate and EQ, the amp comes alive and is super amazing. But the 5150 has these issues sorted out and is the better amp in my book. I would love a custom made USA EVH 5150. Hard to find and expensive.

@belligerentamateur Месяц назад

You're talking about 2 different amps. The Peavey 5150 and 6505 are a totally different amp circuit made by a different company than the EVH 5150 series. Also, there is no such thing as a USA made EVH 5150. Not even custom made. Peavey made the "block letter" 5150 in the USA. EVH has never made any 5150 amps in the US.

@adownbeatexegete1549 3 года назад

I think the 5150 sounds better because 5150.

@jefflitchfield4950 3 года назад

Eddie's mojo

@jrtme 2 года назад

I have had my 5150 since September 1993. The 5150 is clearer, There are two things going on in the 6505 vs the 5150. It is pushing the low mids more and it has a bit more distortion on it. My bet is the Chinese ones are quite a bit different. Great example.

@belligerentamateur 2 года назад

They are no different at all! Same amp, components values, etc.

@jrtme 2 года назад

I was referring to the difference in your examples. As far as the Chinese ones. The quality control of anything coming from China is debatable. It’s about margins with Chinese stuff. You aren’t gonna get the same QC for that cost.

@belligerentamateur 2 года назад

That’s not true, it 100% depends on the individual company and what they invest in QC, I.e. personnel and quality standards. Some companies send us representatives to their foreign factories to head QC, or to train the on site staff.

@TheToecutter69 3 года назад

Peavey 💪🏼💪🏼 🤘🏼🤘🏼

@jessemuscato 3 года назад

the 6505 sounds healthier. but tone wise yea pretty identical.

@PapaWheelie1 3 года назад

This is news we can use! Great comparison- no difference to my ears and if you say it feels the same in the room I believe it. I would take the 6505 if I didn’t have the OG any day. But the looks of that block letter 5150 gives me the feels stacked up in my living room.

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

the block letter just has the "It" factor.

@LautaroGalanCid 3 года назад

so this is what you've been doing in Kimmel's waiting room, huh...

@XChristianNoirX 3 года назад

What years are your 5150 and 6505?

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

No idea honestly.

@XChristianNoirX 3 года назад

@@belligerentamateur I've owned tons of these amps. I have a block that was owned by Daisy Berkowitz (it on my page) and have been trying to replace it for ages with 6505's II etc.. Never got close, until I got another block. This is using the same exact tube set transplanted from amp to amp. The differences across the board were the same as in the demos on Josh Middletons's page. The reason I'm asking the year is because towards the end of the 5150 signature run, the power output circuit board was changed to be the same as the ii/+'s board. Then, shortly after they switched to the 6505, Peavey changed transformer manufacturers. Also, I'm not sure when, but some components changed.. At least the pots. The original blocks had pots that were open and not encased. At some point they switched to encased pots, which are what is what you'd normally find in audio equipment. The manufacturer is the same, but it's a difference to note. I have never gotten a 6505 to aousnd as close to the block letter than another block letter. The 6505 is always smoother and less grundy. It doesn't make it a bad amp at all, just sounds slightly different. I've tried. Multiple amps. I've owens up to 4 at the same time. I have 2 block letters left over. I'm just curious as to the the years of the amps to see if your signature is a later one and your 6505 an earlier one. If so, they'd be the same exact amp, except for the badges. I can't say I kept the blocks because they are a superior amp, but it's what I was used to since I've had it forever.

@nathanielmartinez8599 2 года назад

I have this amp and hate it. idk why I keep buy this amp. its the 6th one I have own.

@michaelglass3993 3 года назад

They are just too similar to me. I will also comment on the block letter thing. I owned a 1992 (EVH) and 1996 (Script) at the same time. They were taken to the local tech and pulled out of the chassis. There was ZERO difference in them. The only extremely subtle difference were the preamp tubes each one had. You could dial them in to sound identical. I do not understand the hype or the stupid price behind them. All block letter means to me is that it is the earliest version of the 5150 and it needs a recap. I had a 6505+ and a 5150-II which also could be dialed in to sound identical. Of course you can play 5 amps of the same type and one may shine above the rest, although the 5150's were very consistent. Just my experience.

@belligerentamateur 3 года назад

That was the whole point of this video haha