[Hearthstone] Kobolds & Catacombs Review 4 

Was thinking exactly that, you could get double the Malygos and nearly kill the opponent with two moonfires.

Aviana not standard. Jungle Giants though.

Why isn’t anyone thinking about the new Druid weapon. You drop the legendary, smash your weapon and then kun (mana) and then another big thing. That is 3 cards (and the weapon) for a really scary board and it is not that hard to pull off.

Anton Almgren Or just play New Druid legendary -> Faceless -> Twig reset mana -> Malygos (you have 2 extra copies) -> 2x moon fires for 32 dmg OTK.

Alien never gonna be reliable. Ooze him on 9:th round and it's gg.

IT gets closer and closer every day

literally shaved my wife

What if I only want to see half the cards?

What a swift boy

Skipperino Kripperino heh

thank

Kudo TV good point

That means that it would be immune to silence, but shuffles and transforms still shit on it. The other thing is that, the only "after death mechanic" we have in HS is deathrattle, so maybe blizz thinks that it's self explanatory.

we do have "when a friendly minion dies"-effects so it wouldn't be too outwordly to think valanyr can ignore silences.

Even if it doesn't give the minion 'death rattle:...' silence would still remove the buff as it would remove any buff. Any buffs are listed on the blue scroll under the card and silence removes these.

Kudo TV Yeah like the effect from the Mage Hero Card that gives your Elementals Lifesteal, that cannot be silenced as well

I was just about to say all that, but then i checked the comments. Couldn't agree more. Massive oversight by Kripp.

Benjamin Dougall damn well visioned

no, because blade flurry deals the dmg, not the weapon. Same thing with Shadowflame, if u shadowflame a poisonous or lifesteal, they wont trigger. They work the same way, upon cast, they check the attack of the weapon(minion) and deal that value as spell dmg, not weapon/minion dmg

Benjamin Dougall it's a legendary weapon meaning you have a 1/30. if you do not draw this card in the early game and or mid game it will be garbage due to you wasting buffs on other weapons and even if you draw the weapon if you cannot draw the buffs it's trash. Also if the win condition is fatigue then jade druid, highlander priest, and quest mage win.

+Timothy Su I'm not so sure. I remember the reasoning that was provided was becoz the minion or the weapon is destroyed first so it can't apply effects. I could be easily wrong though, you may be right.

Because it was too oppressive as removal, the nerf wasn't just for pirate warrior. The card had been an issue literally forever.

Cyan Light its not an issue it was used because there wasn't anything other than that to use. It was staple for control decks cause you couldn't compare the other warrior early cards with other early game class cards.

Because the hs team is reing run by fucking morons. They think more aggro and jade is what the community wants...

Id slap 'gain 5 armor' on it at 3 cost...so it's not staright up Worse than all other 3 cost weapons

It's true you can't necessarily compare cards from different classes but even so playing Fiery War Axe on turn two was statistically much more powerful than playing Frostbolt on turn two, as years of data demonstrated. It was so efficient that simply getting it in the mulligan was a viable wincon in certain matchups, assuming the rest of your deck was in a vaguely reasonable order. I'm not a huge fan of the way the nerf was handled and disagree with the dev team's apparent idea that players simply can't handle complexity of any form from the basic cards, they definitely could have tagged some sort of effect onto it without melting minds and it's especially obnoxious since King's Defender already existed so the weapon is just strictly worse in formats where both exist. It's still obvious that a nerf of some kind was a good idea and fixing the core problem of it consistently being one of the best turn two plays in the game was a good place to start.

André Cécile isnt the deathratle keeping the waepons buffs so it whould lose them?

John Red yes it should work in theroy

How fun! And possible with all these warrior board clears

John Red Maybe, it should work but.. you never know with Blizzard

John Red I don’t believe so, as noggefogger’s random targets are only things that could be targeted before. For example, minions won’t randomly attack their allies

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work. Stranger things have happened in this game but the mayor is pretty strict about things at least finding legal targets.

The Kingsbane is the answer to rogue's lifesteal problem, however if you're depending on 1 card that needs to be drawn early then you probably lose, especially if you had to replace your tempo cards with weapon buffs.

theStonerKid69 No, it's bad. You have weapon for 3 that stops *all* fatigue damage for a turn, it's balls, you can play as many murlocs as you have mana for after this without any risk. And you want to replace this one card(And it's duplicate) with probably 8+ cards that you need to play in order to not even stop fatigue, but to heal for few hp.

samiamrg7 i was asking myself the same question

+Hit if my knowledge of event order is accurate (which it probably isn’t) I _think_ that Tirion’s normal deathrattle would go off and then the Val’anyr deathrattle, overwriting the Ashbringed. That is assuming it works like deathrattles added after a minion is played, where the first deathrattle put into play goes off first. Since the deathrattle is added in the hand though, I don’t know if it works the same.

From memories with Shaman's resummon spell, I believe you're correct.

You get Valanyr because Natural Deathrattles trigger before added deathrattles.

or if you're playing valeera you just play the weapon again lol

have to be in hand.

Malkorok? o>o

And making blingtron even more random

juggalodx4life It is clear. Battlecry.

Yes, it tottaly negates those 4+ draws you force upon yourself in single turn from murlocs. If there was just a weapon that would stop all that damage for 3 mana...

Milling is almost impossible to do these days but thank you for pointing that out, i wouldn't have thought of that. I miss milling people and then they friend me to bitch me out before unfriending me right after. Good times.

polishhockeyfan Too op; Not taking damage is op as you need to have armour to attk, not taking damage means u save both hp and armour. A fool's bane effect is useless too as u need armour to attack, attacking once usually means you run out of armour, furthermore, this weapon only has 2 charges so I doubt it would be that good

No

tbh we don't know so we'll see

No. If you got to choose it would say "choose an animal companion..." or "discover an animal...", so it probably won't let you.

I think this expansion just have tons of ambiguous texts: to my side does not say, random but probably will be random, deck of wonders text is: shuffle scrolls in your deck, when drawn cast a random spell and does not have (target chosen randomly) like yogg and grand archivist. Some spellstones doesn't specify if you must upgrade them in a single turn or you can for example overload 3 mana in 2 turns for the shaman card or play 2 spell in one turn and 2 in another in the priest one. I mean... i guess we'll know when the expansion is out.

Basically, it would say "Summon Huffer".

Permakill* damn auto correct

MrShockzine Its something like Keleseth, if its the last card in your deck, its not that good. Though I would want to see Mill Rogue with that as a form of no fatigure

not necessarily... on one hand you can say that about any 1 cost card...if its the last card it will suck.... On the other, if your last card is potentially a 5/3 with lifesteal and venomous..... I think you might have won... I wonder if minion cards that increase dmg will remain if the card is destroyed with the buff applied.. like vengeful blacksmith.. or w/e that enrage card is.

Oh damn, you think that will still hit face?

Yeah I think so, since Fool's Bane does.

Lox4013 the thing is that jade druid has already so much value that it probably doesn’t need any more.

Korhone you're probably right lol

Yup, an exploit has been found!

Ronaldi Chastel they need something to control the board with 7 mana, not with priests dealing 10 dmg per turn

That's seriously shitty, hunter epic level of shitty.

Yeah, it's like two shield slams. Shield slam is overpowered, so getting two overpowered cards for the price of one is probably also overpowered. Taking damage doesn't really matter in an armor deck, I think his analysis was weirdly way off. Your normally play an armor gain card before a shield slam anyway and warrior is getting even more tools to do that kind of thing, why would this be any different?

I don't play Hearthstone anymore, but isn't dead mans hand warrior still a thing? And they have some absurd amounts of armor.

Dead mans hand warrior is a bad deck and I doubt any of these cards will in any way make it better. And no, they don't have absurd amounts of armor. Not when priests are hitting your face for 10 a turn and Druids are spawning 9/9s.

Plus in a game vs aggro in which you have little armor, using weapons to kill minions is not as good because it reduces your life total, so you dont need to use it, so it doesnt matter that is has littlr attack

To actually answer the question, yes Dead Man's Hand is still a thing. It's getting a new AoE too. Obviously that won't see play because as we all know new cards never see any play (which is why all of the decks currently in the meta have always been the only decks in the game) and something something dead on turn five every game but if you hypothetically wanted to buy new cards and figure out how they might do things instead of queuing up Keleseth Rogue for the 1,000th time then that would be a good place to start.