Hearthstone player rates classic Magic cards 

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“Are you SURE this card is bad?” Even in conversations, CGB always has 2 untapped blue mana

Millstone has attained the highest level of card game fame: The source of terminology.

That ornithopter is $6.50, not $650. You missed the decimal!

Milling cards in now a rule that's name comes from millstone! I used to love that card when I played 4th ed

CGB cannot stop playing Control even when he's talking

oh that's my favorite YuGiOh streamer Ramranch.

Putting Tolarian Academy up in the same review after showing Serra's Sanctum would be fun

46:35 Rarran’s reaction to “Meet n Beat” 💀💀💀

You and Rarran have THE best dynamic for these "player of other game rates my game's cards" videos. Absolutely love them to pieces. Rarran knows just enough about the game to make genuine educated guesses, and CGB doesn't overplay the mind games aspect so much to ruin the joy of the actual concept, while still occasionally playing small tricks here and there to keep things interesting. You guys are great at this, extremely looking forward to every set you guys cover together going forward.

The cool thing (I think) about the lore of the set. While its about the brothers war, the theme of the set isn't the war itself, its of archaeologists finding relics and ruins of the war

"You're game really changed my life it really made me see myself with a new perspective... Upkeep strip mine your mountain, play strip mine pass... Yhea I really understood how good it feels to make people miserable"

Stripmine crucible lock truly is good honest Magic as Richard Garfield intended it.

Mana masturbation Holy shit i almost died laughing I was not expecting it

"Lil' Danny" is an incredible addition to the Timmy/Johnny/Spike/Vorthos Pantheon of players. The new player, naive and excited, but also hungry to get better. So good.

The art on these older cards is some of my favorite.

What we need is a commander game with Rarran, Voxy, CGB and Brian Kibler

Hilarious that you guys referenced said “blue balling yourself” when the deck Candelabra sees the most play in is High Tide.

I have to say, I was skeptical about the new direction for the channel and thought I would miss the daily gameplay videos, but this was some of the best mtg content I've seen. I love learning about lore and legendary moments in mtg history. You are so knowledgeable in that realm and have so much to offer in it, I'm so glad you decided to branch out in this way. This video was epically hilarious, I can't wait for the next installment!

You could have warped his mind by giving him the over-under with the Antiquities War vs a modern printing

Came for the cards, stayed for the stories. The way CGB's eyes lit up when he recollects his game memories from way back is really heartwarming 🙂

"Where are they now?" Millstone became Grindstone and married a scarecrow, they live happily in Legacy and Vintage to this day Colossus of Sardia fell in the oil and became Phyrexian Colossus, just in time for Tinker and Tolarian Academy to show up. It was the worst summer ever to be an Ornithopter Candleabra of Tawnos became a wrinkly old man in Time Spiral that no one really plays All the lands died to Strip Mine, which also technically died to itself And ornithopter? Let's just say... he's had some Cranial work done.

I almost suffocated from laughter on Candelabra discussion! 😂 Now I can't stop thinking about Dark Ritual...

1. Thopter was played from beginning - mostly combined with "unstable mutation" and "howl from beyond" in some BU decks 2. Colossus is bad. But players tried to make it work with "instill energy" 3. Millstone was OKish - but mostly to slow. In the ultra control decks juzam, serra or as you mentioned mishra's factory simply worked faster. But yes Millstone was the first sucessful win-con in these decks

CGB origin story reveal! Can't believe that's what turned you into the blue-white control mage we all love today... witnessing the very first pro tour victory in person. Couldn't have written a better story.

This was super entertaining. Laughed so much. Will never be able to look at a candelabra the same way again lol

That’s it, I’m adding Strip Mine to my blue/white Shorikai combo/control/solitaire commander deck that I was debating taking apart. It must be done to satisfy the Sun Titan, my “fun” card.

Some kind dude who was a stranger I met in a LGS like 10 years showed me his album which has a few pages of all Strip Mines. Took out 1 from it and gave to me, no strings attached. And that’s just having met him for like 15 minutes.

I've watched Rarran every once in awhile for years now, he actually is the reason i found this channel. Awesome seeing you guys talk MTG

Talking about Thanos into Candelabra of Tawnos and Rarran even didn't notice it

Covert talking Strip Mine: "Everyone should play this, we should be evil to each other" Covert earlier: "Some magic players aren't socially adjusted and don't understand what they should and shouldn't do" I see you.

33:50 Okay I was surprised that Candelabra was under $1000, my memory isn't wrong. Also, Strip Mine isn't a Reserved List card (so it's been reprinted), was an uncommon, and isn't legal in legacy, so that's helpful. Also, Also, Pauper is commons only. So yes, the Tron lands have been printed at common.

For Strip Mine, the land destruction taboo is a thing but also it is much worse in multiplayer than in 1v1. It's mana disadvantage to you and the target, which when there's no other player means its mana neutral. But when you have 2 other opponents, you're stone raining yourself to stone rain one opponent.

CGB, you, and I mean this in the most loving way possible, are exactly why I don't play commander with strangers anymore lol. In 60 card I'll happy struggle through (or play!) a stasis lock, but in commander I just wanna throw around big dumb cards that I thought were cool when I was 10. Great video, love the background and history lessons. Love the back and forth between you and Rarran. Keep it up!

Love the mill stone as the background, really sets the mood.

the 5th edition rulebook insert that came with a sealed pack actually has "Our condolences to everyone who has been killed by an Ornithopter" in it

Arcbound Ravager hyyype! I went to an LGS over the weekend and found out they were selling Darksteel packs. Of course I had to pick one up and found out about the joy of unpacking an Arcbound Ravager

What do you mean 3 printings? There´s Tron lands from Antiquities, Chronicles, 5th, 8th and 9th edition, Double Masters, Jumpstart 2022, Commander Masters. Thats 8 printings even not counting different versions in the same set and foreign language printings.

This video was so fun! Appreciated the varied content. The stories, having a laugh, the CGB background & motivation... and of course, little Danny. These narrative layers don't come out as much in the gameplay stuff. Also, nice guest! Thank you for your service ;-)

thanks for the shoutout of the book, I still have it on my shelf! Really easy to read, better than modern magic stories by a mile.

Mishra's Factory + Consecrate Land + Nova Pentacle was a pretty good combo in creatureless control decks like BUW Abyss Control.

21:33 - Soon as I saw the Candelabra I flashed back to watching Feline Longmore going off with High Tide. Those were good days and fun tourneys to watch on SCG.

Talking about Trolling people with Urza Lands. My kid challenged me to build a commander deck themed around grass ART. Yeah. I put in the Spring? Urza's Tower (v3 on Gatherer) with no other Tron lands because it was the only one with grass in the art. :D It was fantastic. People's eyebrows would go up into their hairlines when I'd play it. LOL

CGB, this is an amazing new type of videos for your channel! I love it! Keep doing your magic!

CGB you said you were going to be trying some new things in your retiring video and I’m assuming this is part of that so here’s some honest feedback. Loved it. I will smash that like button. Really enjoyed the interaction with another RU-vidr as well as learning more about the history of magic the gathering!

When your opponent plays Ornithopter+Ensoul Artifact, it makes your opponent laugh twice as hard back at you lol

Also, I have definitely experienced the Commander Problem. Three of us were at a table with some fun midrange decks, a fourth player joined us, played solitaire for five minutes on turn 3, and took three battle phases dealing 30 damage on each. I was like, "What exactly do you need _us_ for...?"

millstone is so important, it literally created the mechanic name of Mill

I have to say Rarran crushed it. I love the CGB-Rarran duo because I feel like he really learns about both the history of magic but also gets a good idea of the "meta" of magic which helps him evaluate cards.

I started playing MtG in 2003 and played at many FNMs and several Grand Prix. When I moved away in 2017, there were no gamer shops nearby, so I switched to Hearthstone. Watching the two of you together has been a refreshing experience. I would watch an entire series of the two of you introducing each other into their respective games.

Love these kinds of videos! I watch very similar ones where MtG players rate Marvel Snap cards. I don't know why its so fascinating to me

at first i wasnt sure if i was going to watch this video. Turns out, it was very entertaining to listen to while sleeving up a commander deck!

Love both sides of this series, 2 great personalities and lots of interesting analysis that teaches deckbuilding by accident.

29:46 Honestly, “not a dude dot deck” was my bread and butter in DTK standard. I realized the myth of a creatureless (almost) deck, and it turned “End Hostilities” into “Raigeki.” Citadel Siege made my board wipes into two-to-five-for-ones. I even ran Quarantine Field, look it up, it’s a meme for the dreamers. Edit: Oh. The reason I brought that up is that man lands (Shambling Vents), enchantments and artifacts (Myth Realized, Ojutai and Silumgar Monuments), and counter spells, card draw, board wipes, removal, and even a couple of extremely cheeky Narsets that ulted for the win quite often, all of which trigger myth to grow bigger, and let you hold up your mana (except the reloads and narsets, but rebound on a draw 4 is stupid), and only make your creatures into creatures when you know they won’t die (negate, scatter to the winds, dissipate until it rotated and I swapped in dissolve, even 4 of dispel in sideboard, etc.). My not a dude are not creatures unless I want them to put in work. I can clean up the stalled board (can’t attack with my threat of activation on not a dudes), then clean up with a 7/7 or bigger than only costs 1 mana to animate, that I played on turn one.

I started M:tG when fourth edition was still in print. Back then, it had a paper rulebook as it couldn't be assumed everyone was online. At the very end was an italicized notice: "Our condolences to anyone who has been killed by an Ornithopter."

dude I LOVE this podcasty format. CGB dropping mtg history left and right is so enterteining and informative as well

Relating to what CGB said about the way people play MTG (ie. some people like to optimize, etc.) I saw another channel IHYD where the guest's deck featured what he termed "Black people tribal/typal" in that all of his cards (aside from land) featured a person of color. I don't remember how well it played, but you get all kinds of concepts for decks. It's ep. 68 on IHYD if anyone wanted to check it out.

This was SO AWESOME!!!! And so fun!!! It seemed like it was fun to film and it was a lot of fun to watch! Love it!

Had fun! I could truly relate too.Truly enjoyed this. Both nostalgic and fun, like a Friday Night Talk with friends from old times. We've all been little Dannys at some point. Now, little Danny's cool! 😂

The convo around Millstone is why I always feel so good when I get my teresian mindbreaker out on the field. Seeing the opponent mill half their library is so cathartic.

its crazy that my favorite mtg and hearthstone creators are doing collabs. super entertaining!

Ive fallen out of regularly playing MTG so i dont watch many techs n stuff anymore, but it's great to see cgb pop up in my feed again with smth like this!

Just got done reading The Brothers' War a few days ago. My only experience of Mtg as a kid was the big orange-cover card catalog that had every single card from alpha all the way up to Apocalypse. I used to love just sitting there and reading over all these cards and looking at the art and the lore. I never actually had any Magic cards or played the game myself, but by reading the flavor text and looking at the art I was able to piece together the stories. I have a tremendous amount of fondness for old MtG cards and it's very interesting for me to see videos like this since I'm also looking at the actual game with very little experience.

I really like these videos. It's like a history lesson with a side of reminiscing over times long past.

More like "Pranking a Hearthstone zoomer about classic Magic cards" 😂

Millstone is the reason we call it Mill.

Thanks for this. A very fun episode. The janky brewer in my wants to suggest a combos episode; things like land stealing changling druids or making lands flip as werewolves. Candelabra - Forbidden Orchard - Leyline of Singularity Aristocrats. Winds Zendikon - Darksteel Citadel - Pariah.

How can i find the reviews of Rarran and CGB for the 2 older sets?

I loved your appearance on his channel, great to have him here.

Magic: reading the card explains the card Hearthstone: reading the card dont explain shit

Back in the day I played a blue counter deck that ran millstone, ensnaring bridge, and null rod. It was so much fun.

Love these kind of videos!! Gives me arena craft podcast vibes

I'm not really a magic player, though I did play in high school, but in yugioh one of my favorite creators is MBT who's name originally came from his favorite mtg deck, Mono Blue Tron, so it is really neat to see the lands that are the namesake to it.

I really appreciate this different kind of content ! Please do more !! 😊

how are you counting reprints of tron? because I'm looking at chronicles, 5th, 8th, 9th edition, double masters, jumpstart, and commander masters for total of 7 reprints

One interesting combo I found for Candelabra is that if you make it a creature with Ensoul Artifact, then have Ashaya, Soul of the Wild out, you can use its ability to untap _itself_. Then all you need is two lands that each tap for two mana and you have infinite mana as early as turn 6, possibly even less with a Sol Ring on board

Like these early expansion reviews, because they are some of the cards I played with back when I was still playing. Although then in the reprint set of the first four expansions (Which I for the love of me can't remember the name of)

I actually played an Ornithopter in my very first Magic tournament. It was in a mono black deck and I didn't quite have enough strong mono black cards, and I needed something to hold my Unholy Strengths and other buffs.

One thing we have at ourgame shop is have specialized days. Fridays are typicially for drafts/prerelease evebts. But saturday is "No Cry" so expect some powerful commander decks (even CDH ones) to be played and if you lose, you cant "cry about it". Where as Casual Sundays are where you dont play decks with ridiculous combos and for beginners to learn. UNLESS your whole table is ok with it. So you know what youre getting into when you show up

"Some of yall don't read the room" This is why like 90% of TTG stores maintain the same clique of players each week with little to no increase of the community. I'm not a TCG gamer (but really getting into a lot of other TTGs), but I have spent a lot of Friday nights visiting several of my local shops and seeing the Friday Night Magic groups gather. The groups are stagnant, and typically when someone new shows up, it's one of *those guys* who just creates a sweaty deck... or... occasionally, it's someone who's tired of getting stomped on at their old store, lol.

50:10 It's taboo to blow up *all* of your opponents' lands. Especially if you do it repeatedly, like with the Crucible lock, and extra especially if you don't have a way to win relatively quickly after doing it. But single-target land removal is absolutely essential in Commander because insanely strong lands like Gaea's Cradle are legal and that player will run away with the game if left unchecked.

Love this type of content CGB! I'm here for the new direction! :)

Rarran's comment about Ornithopter being "what Da Vinci made back in the day" is really funny now that they've revealed the Leonardo da Vinci card for the Assassin's Creed set which actually makes ornithopter tokens

I've never played mtg or hs. I got recommended one of these videos and liked it so much that I made a cgb and rarran playlist and fall asleep every night listening to it. The algorithm might be actual magic.

Running with Scissors is one of the most fun deckst to play. I made my own version, and it still manages to amaze people getting hit by a 5/5 flyng dude, or with an indesctructible land. :v

The Brother's War was a sweet book when I was in Middle school. I think I still have it somewhere

42:05 my favorite story about one of these people was a random guy who joined our group of budget decks intending to just stomp us, he was having a great time controlling the board, using proxied fetches to go get proxied og duals while we're playing temples and guildgates (I don't have a problem with proxies but he didn't even check) he's just taking all the turns being really unpleasant. he then casts lavalanch on the other player that was doing the best for x = 25 I ricochet trap him so he targets his own face, mostly killing him and wiping his board, he died before his turn comes back around, packed up his stuff and sulked away, I felt great.

Does candelabra not also just go infinite with most lands which can tap for at least 2? Since you can tap, use one to untap and float one?

These are some of my favorite videos CGB keep it up!!!

21:07 The insane combo with Candelabra of Tawnos was with Library of Alexandria. The player could draw an extra card each turn for just 1 colorless, making total cards drawn each turn could easily be three to the opponent's one.

This was a fun video, casual video. Love seeing content like this

my friends group back in the day affinity decks and mono blue decks using tinker dominated. but since then i literally have most of my decks have strong elements that counter artifacts. cards like gorilla shaman, stony silence, kataki wars wage, meltdown, fracturing gust, pest infestation, steelbane hydra, shattering pulse. etc. to some extent i make sure to include some of these in my main decks or on my sideboard, sometime hybrid, where some artifact hate is in the main deck and some in the sideboard and if facing affinity then swap in more artifact hate. but some in the main board still gives me a chance to win on the first match.

What's the game CGB is referring to in 39:00 ?

27:19 The way I’d explain this is that every permanent gets summoning sickness (unless it has haste), but that doesn’t stop you from activating its tap abilities unless it’s a creature. (In fact, the _Shandalar_ computer game had an option to make summoning sickness visible on all permanents.) So you can play a Factory and immediately tap it (for mana or to pump an Assembly-Worker), but you can’t turn it into a creature and then tap it (except to pay a cost of another card through the act of tapping, rather than by spending the mana produced by the Factory’s own ability). Also, permanents regain summoning sickness when their controller changes, which is why spells and abilities that steal creatures until end of turn usually give them haste at the same time.

I'll admit when I got into Magic the biggest thing I saw (both in art and power/toughness) was Krosan Cloudscraper. I still to this day have nostalgia for the card because of the Lil' Danny I was back then.

Was waiting for you to do that. Awesome content! It wouldn't hurt if the montage was a bit more fast paced, tho

Them talking about the millstone and how "little danny" really found his niche with those types of decks really makes me want to play mtga again. The reason i got into mtg in the first place was watching day9 have a blast milling people so i made my own mill decks and boy was it fun. I mean, the winrate on my decks is godawful but those few games that i actually won felt glorious.

Are the Magic books good? I try reading d&d books but most of them are a chore to get through.

Minor correction, Mishra's Facotry was printed at uncommon once in Antiquities. The other three arts were rare.

oooooh i've been waiting for this video, since i'm a magic kinda zoomer as well