Hearthstone Player Rates Old INSANE Magic Cards w/ CovertGoBlue 

Alternatively, it's marking your cards.

Easy fix.... have 61 cards in your deck.

Not kidding - nobody played 60 cards back then

40 cards was the minimum back then

Since comments don't understand, typically you would sign your deck into tournaments. So because he did that, his 60 card deck became 59, therefore against tournament rules and DQed

Oh man...I'm sure there are better ways of doing it, but I'd have done isochron scepter with remand, cast through time shahrazad. shahrazad on a stick, baby!

what about ante? Conspiracy?

Don't

Ess ga6

Wpw a way

There's a reason it took so long to tell the stories...

In the selection and translation I've read, *most* of the stories, including the one told on the first night, consist of a setup for 3-5 other stories to be told inside the story (and often a character in the story making some salient observation of what lesson can be learned from these stories in the stories)... and if I remember correctly, it contains stories nested four layers deep (five if you count the fact that One Thousand and One Nights is in itself a story (so... in the story you are reading, Scheherazade tells a story about someone telling a story about someone telling a story about someone telling a story)).

This is when the flavor and the mechanics of the card work terribly TERRIBLY well xD

​@@lostalone9320 the premise of A Thousand and One Arabian Nights was a woman, Sheherazad(sp?), attempting to delay her gruesome execution by tempting her captor with intriguing stories that would run so long that the sun would rise and he would be forced to put off her execution so she would be able to tell him what happens next on the next night.

​@@HasegawaRayven Basically, yeah. She told a story but didn't finish it until the following night. Then started another story. She basically cliffhangered the dude 1000 times. In that time, she gave him 4 kids. Which is insane, because it implies she KEPT DOING THIS DESPITE CHILDBIRTH AND PREGNANCY FOUR FUCKING TIMES.

Worth watching for the reactions of the people around them alone. Especially the judge.

Worth noting is that the player he chose as his teammate was Mark Rosewater, Magic's lead designer.

@@gregoryhayes7569 He forced the guy who would've come up with Shahrazad, to play with Shahrazad? That feels like next level trolling.

@@mrbigglezworth42 Nah, Shahrazad was designed by Richard Garfield, the inventor of trading card games. MaRo designed every other card involved in the combo, though.

Perfectly Vorthos, as all things should be.

Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today

Magic as Rich Garf intended

That isn't a deck, that is a scheme to legally kidnap your opponent via magic the gathering.

There are actually 3 subgame cards besides Shahrazad, one of which was almost eternal legal. They are: "Enter the Dungeon" from Unhinged "The Countdown Is at One" from Unstable "Tug of War" from Unfinity (initially tagged as eternal legal, but made acorn because of how it feels).

That's so funny xD

Honestly, i liked The Countdown Is At One, had it played against me in an unstable release event. The subgame is really fast since you're only at one life, and it has a noticeable impact on the main game afterward compared to simply halving your life total.

@@connorhamilton5707 It's a shame - Tug of War looks like an actually playable card. (The subgame would probably last seconds, anyway; any deck playing that card probably can deal 5 damage from 3 permanents immediately.)

@@therealax6 Yeah, it's a really cool design.

There's certainly a rule somewhere that limits the amount of subgames Shahrazad can make to 1001.

You are a mad genius

I have a commander deck built that plays it, and on cast puts approximately 3,000 copies of it on the stack in the perfect setup. Rule 0'd it to play it once. Worth it.

This is how Godel demonstrated incompleteness.

You could do that just like you could jump with naked feet on Lego blocks.

David’s the goat

Ya know, I read this comment like 2-3 minutes into the video, and still was so surprised when it happened. 😂 it was great!!

@@Rarran David's been playing too much PoE. You can't just drop Orion in there and not give PoE players PSTD from Sirius

@@Adanine THANK YOU I heard the first three notes and my damn hair stood up on end!

​@@AdanineYou really think he wasn't going to use PoE music for a story about Chaos Orb?

What if they're looking for Quantum Accounting?

Isochron scepter + shahrazad is one of my favourite things to do in a commander game

What can I say to praise Magic except that it has survived long enough to make all of the mistakes, to show other successful games what not to do... And still survive.

@@csmead209 THing about MTG at this current day and age, they're almost literally 'too big to fail'. Even if Wizards /Hasbro did something catastrophic, the game itself would not die. Players would pick up the rules part of it if Hasbro dropped it, and there's more than enough cards out there to give plenty of permutations of the game in it's many forms, including draft. As things are though, lotta long term MTG players are going to other CCGs, like Pokemon, flesh&blood, lorcana, even the new One Piece.

@@cabri358 LOL even better than what I was going to suggest. Wound Reflection + Shahrazad. You win the sub game and then go to endstep and everyone immediately dies.

Yeah and you could run your own removal so when you got djinn turn two not only could they not remove it but you could remove their blockers (if you ran the right removal)

There was pretty little removal in general, black had terror and white swords to plowshares. Red removed via direct damage (so dies to bolt was an important factor in deciding what creatures you play). Probably the best early anti creature stuff was in blue since they could copy, steal and counter whatever you had.

​​@@daftwulli6145At least by ice age white had Reprisal, which takes out any high power creatures. Even Arabian Nights had Abu Jafar for one white mana; block with him and as long as he dies the creature that killed him does too. In fact as early as Beta there was Circle of Protection: Black and alpha had Chaos Orb. I think a bigger problem was not a lot of decks played a lot of creature removal because why would you, creatures sucked!

The three best removal spells at the time were Swords, Bolt, and Terror. Juzam dodged two of the three. And if they used Plow, it gave you back all the life you lost! Win-win!

@@psymar None of them are creature removal spells though (as in remove one creature with one spell). White also had wrath of god as mass removal ,which is still the gold standard for wrath effects, and all wrath effects follow the patterns of wrath of god , like how much a wrath should cost etc. heck it even named the card archetype (which a lot of cards from alpha do, bolt ios another good example The circles where never main deck cards, some people played them in the sideboard, especially the red one since red had a lot of direct damage. But having a circle in the maindeck was a bad idea, since it is a dead card if your opponent does not play that color. Effectively giving your opponent card advantage, since he has 1 more usefull card then you. Chaos orb was probably the best removal ever printed. Provided you are good at flipping it can remove anything for just 3 generic mana, and it being an artifact it can fit into any deck. I play a lot of oldschool (93/94) and chaos orb is a must have for pretty much any deck, except maybe ultra agrro decks. IN GENERAL cards that can remove any permanent are pretty rare, and usually expensive to cast (like desert twister) or give opponent sopmething in return like beast within wherhe they get a grizzly bear (2/2 grteen bear toen vanilkla) or curse of the swine (considered blue´s best removal, XUU exile x creatures and replace them with ........ also grizzly bears, which i always find hilarious since it is in blue buit gives you green creatures) and I think this is the only colorless one.

How is it a good fit for flavor? I'm curios as I don't know much about arabian mythos.

@@ericrubyblade8226shahrazad is a woman who was the bride of a sultan/king who had a reputation for killing his wives. In order to escape this fate, she told him a story that did not end so night after night he had to spare her to hear the continuation. This lasted for 101 nights

@@ericrubyblade8226 So basically, most of arabian mythos like Aladdin and Ali Baba comes from the collection of tales called One Thousand and One Nights. The book is about a king who after finding out his wife cheated on him, killed her and decided that he would sleep with a different woman everyday and then have her executed the next, so he couldn't be cheated on again. Knowing this, this woman, Shahrazad, willingly offers to spend the night with the king, even though she would be executed. After the two have sex, she starts telling him a story, her storytelling is so good and mesmerizing that the two stay awake throughout the whole night, and she says she'll finish the story the next night. So the king says "Damn, I can't have this woman killed because I want to hear how the story ends." So he allows her to live another day so she can finish the tale. But, during the second day, her story branches out into another story, that was still related to the original, but still different. She also doesn't finish this story that night, making the king let her live for another day. During the third night, that story branches out again into a third story. She keeps doing this to stall her execution for 1001 nights, hence the name of the book. The obvious flavour is that when you play Shahrazad, you're branching out the story (the game) into another story (the subgame) to keep the king (the opponent) 'entertained'. But there's also thematic implications, cause it makes more sense to play Shahrazad when you're losing, after all, why would you give a chance for your opponent to catch up in the subgame? So by playing Shahrazad you're basically doing what she did in the book, you're stalling your own demise. And by even making the choice of putting her in your deck, you're already basically admitting that you plan to be "losing", the same way she knew that she would be executed. And just like CGB explained in the video, you could have 4 copies of Shahrazad in your deck, making it possible to play a subgame of a subgame of a subgame of a subgame; just like Shahrazad told a story within a story a thousand-fold.

​@@pintlemounted1001 nights

@@davyespectador If your main deck had 4 copies then you could spinoff four subgames just from that, and each of those subgames would potentially have multiple copies of Shahrazad in that deck, so I think you could end up playing upto 15 subgames, many within other subgames, just with the 4 copies from one deck and nothing else bringing them back for a second time round. (I'm guessing the mirror matchup could spawn 255 subgames if they all got played, so that would be fun.)

He’s not the sharpest crayon in the box.

Cuz ETC is a 3 card sideboard, they were talking about kitchen table magic, where you can get ANY card. Zeph’s got a bigger card pool.

@@TripletheCheese ok but zeph is set cards. ETC is anything legal. Wider pool means nothing.

@@johnj4471 3 cards is a lot different than diligently searching through an entire shoebox of cards. The difference I feel is that you have to plan ahead to use ETC, whereas Zeph “solves” whatever problem you have, just like the ring did.

@@TripletheCheese except there’s more etc can solve than zeph can. You’re wrong. He was wrong. Accept it.

I swear, dark ritual has to be a card of all time. I dont think a single black deck I ran didnt have it

Almost an exact copy of innervate + yeti

​@@munkifaze4331dark ritual is the worst best card still in magic, because yeah, it goes in *every* black deck. It's one of the best mana rituals, especially in black.

@@kalebgray1050I think it's kinda cool though, maybe it was never balanced but the cost is card advantage, and Black is all about making dubious decisions to do cool stuff. The problem is like Lightning Bolt, 2 is okay but meh, 3 is busted, you can't really tune it right without making all Black creatures more expensive.

@@munkifaze4331 Yes, but why would anyone not run it right? My deck back in the day: T1 -> Dark Ritual -> Entomb -> Exhume -> Spirit of the night (6/5 fly/haste/first strike/protection from black)

The funniest part is that the rules now have to have a specific rule covering that case (725.4), because of course they do.

Well you've got to get to 1002 somehow.

They have changed all of the expansion hosers to check for cards that are originally printed in a given expansion. This list is defined in the CR for each of them.

@@Prinrin And this was why from what I heard. Because Juzam Djinn was so strong a creature back then, people played city in a bottle as specific tech against that. Magic Apocrypha says someone was playing a red deck at a very early event and went to the trouble to bling his deck out with Arabian Nights mountains (which were a mistake, they actually removed all the basic lands from the print sheets, but missed one, so one mountain per print sheet run was printed) which made him just unable to play the game because all his lands were just blown up or unplayable.

@@ReyosBlackwood The reason for the change was to make it so that printing was irrelevant. All versions of a card should function the same.

Yeah and recur it with Fork/Regrowth/Timetwister. Sensei's Divining Top is banned/restricted for similar reasons, although SDT is more slow play bullshit, rather than the power level of Shahrazad.

Makes sense now, thanks.

Yup. Yugioh ultimately banned Self Destruct Button for similar reasons, though that took awhile as that wasn't quite so easy to pull off.

I think CardMarket also had a EDH game, were someone played Shahrazad

I was going to make this exact comment, link to that game because it's a favorite: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eBMLsY9qSt4.html

I still loved the look on everyone's face when he activated the card that let him nab it. The judge literally said "You monster!" exasperatedly.

What about portal three Kingdoms?

@@darkrexkigntstone8773 Not... sure? Maybe. It's certainly more obscure.

26:11 Wait until they hear about Enter the Dungeon

@@xenok42 And if we're talking about Ring of Ma'ruf slowing down games as people searched their collection, how about Ashnod's coupon? I sent someone to walk half half a mile to McDonald's and get me a milkshake mid game.

To finish the video you have to watch another subvideo that gets you there

@@MsManuales I watched the one they did after this on CGB's channel a few days ago, that qualifies right?

I heard you like magic so i put magic in your magic

I pray your adventure is glorious and unforgettable. You have risen beyond the common man for that I salute you. o7

I remember the Unstable PPR where Wedge used Spike to get Shahrazad, then used Better Than One to make Mark Rosewater his teammate, then cast Shahrazad to take himself, Mark, and his opponent Cameron, into the subgame.

You'll also see it in '93/'94 format for a variety of reasons. It's good sideboard tech against Ernham Djinn, Juzam Djinn, City of Brass, and some others.

Actually, the magic player is wrong. You are correct, in that City in a Bottle DID actually see significant play in sideboard, because Juzam, Erhnam, City of Brass, Library were so strong throughout all of the early play until standard rules got implemented. Mainly, in the Big Blue deck when Legends came out which I helped my friend develop. Most of the main decks at the time were running Djinn decks, and City in a Bottle crushed their decks. That combined with the Power Blue cards, 8 potential counterspells, meant the Djinn decks got completely trounced by our deck. So, it was a VERY valuable sideboard card to have.

Juzam was way better. Comes out on turn 1 with lotus + land and drawing at least 1 land is basically guaranteed since its 1/3rd of your deck. Kills in 4 turns instead of 5. Cant be targeted by common black removal (terror - similair to doomblade now) or counterspells (too early). Damage dealt to creatures isnt permanent so you cant remove it over multiple turns with damage.

@@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash but chillwind yeti is a yeti

I released this for you

hey bro is it ok if I watch your rarran video rq?

Denimwalk was OP in Canada

He really should have shown him City of Ass.

​@@FattoCattoGo we also have seasonal bans on Shoe Tree.

Old Man was great for stealing Birds of Paradise, Royal Assassin, Ali, Hypnotic Specter, and so many more. And that's before adding power.

I don't think the Magic guy brought it up, because it became unbanned later on because like you said, almost all decks had removal. So, maybe the Magic guy didn't play in tournaments while Ali was banned or didn't think it was relevant after they removed Ali from the banned list.

"This Story is nothing" - Sirius proably

Can you name some?

@@NotYourAverageNothing Golgothian Sylex comes to mind.

@@NotYourAverageNothing there are three expansion hosing cards that are allowed in competitive gameplay. Apocalypse Chime from Homelands which for 2 mana is an artifact that you pay 2, sacrifice and tap to destroy all nontoken permanents that were originally printed in Homelands and they can't be regenerated. Similarly in Antiquites Golgathian Sylex is a 4 mana artifact which for 1 mana and tapping forces all players to sacrifice nontoken permanents originally from Antiquites. City in a Bottle was talked about in the video. Lastly there is a draft event with crazy test cards which has a hoser called Crux of Mirrodin which is a sorcery that destroys all nonland permanents originally printed in either the first 4 sets of Mirrodin or the 3 sets of Mirrodin after New Phyrexia really appears.

I mean, Spirit Link made most Djinn decks much harder to win. That was usually the go-to for Control decks back in the day to counter all the Djinn decks and it was from the same expansion as Moat. Plus, it had the extra benefit of giving you 1 life every time the Juzam damaged the opponent during upkeep.

I never heard that version back in the day, but now it's everywhere. I think someone appended it after getting tired of people popping off for such a silly story.

Rather than less than 60 cards my favorite counter call is “my opponent is now playing with a marked card!”

Important context for this, Shahrazad isn't perma-banned because of subgames not working in the rules. They work perfectly fine, in fact, and Tug of War from Unfinity (another subgame card) was initially tagged as eternal legal, only being made an acorn card due to how it feels. The reason Shahrazad is perma-banned is that for tournament play (what banlists are generally relevant for), Shahrazad takes too much space. Every additional subgame basically expands your needed table space by another whole game. In other words, it's perfectly functional in the rules, but doesn't function within the limitations tournament settings have to deal with.

@@connorhamilton5707 And everyone coming back in 2 weeks time for round two might have been an issue as well.

Yah and there was the dirty trick of recurring Shahrazad via Regrowth/Timetwister/Fork shenanigans to stall the entire round, giving you a draw when you went to time. Or if you won game one, you would win the whole round 1-0. That was the main reason it got banned in Vintage, instead of getting restricted to one per deck. Even though the subgames wouldn't turn into more subgames, it was just the fact you could play games two, three, four, and so on and so forth when you technically haven't even finished game two.

Also played in a very strong white aggro deck with Tormond's Crypt. It was basically "WW - Half target player's life total", which is pretty good when you're playing beat down. If they tried to win the sub-game but got hit with Crypt in the process it could render their deck unplayable in the parent game. You'd have to concede the sub-game in response to crypt just to preserve your win conditions or you end up with a non-functional deck in the game that actually matters, so the aggro deck would basically always win the sub game one way or another.

Back in those days deck minimum was 40 though.

Pretty awesome. (I wonder if it would have been a *tiny* bit better with the Rain Of Stars voiceline... ;) )

I mean the story features a chaos orb so ofc it needs PoE background music ;)

I'm going to say that even if it was just till end of turn it still wouldn't be as bad as 'Undertow'.

Oracle text says until end of turn, so no shenanigans unfortunately

Mono artifacts tap to activate so you'd need a way to untap it.