Heath Ledger’s Joker Origins (THE DARK KNIGHT) Explored 

Requix that still gives me the chills

That always gets me, i know it's coming but it just sounds so evil

You know what's funny here? That guy getting tortured was the movie's producer and Ledger's "Look at me" really terrified him and he instinctly looked at him. You can see his reaction.

I know! Heath Ledger's Joker voice was fucking terrifying

Requix, "Why so serious"?

If only Veronica went on that date with him.

@@DCDPM> TFW you didn't get the reference.

@@DCDPM he's a great Bo2 player

David Carter why are people like you on the internet

@@DCDPM whoosh

Falcondorf its a classic :)

have you ever heard about GTA San Andreas

Rohan Malhotra oh yes 😏

@@rohanmalhotra4256 yeah I do what a shit game

My English class studied this movie haha

Notice how his finger was on the hammer so even if Harvey wanted to shoot him he couldn't, but he wanted to give Dent the feeling he was in control of the situation

Cool and hillarious , thats joker

Disturbing yet hilarious.

Could this be a hint about his past military life?

Sounds like he used to be an interrogator in the army

jesust_is _bigmac there is only one way he could know that training

He was amazing in Brokeback Mountain. Not even joking -- his death makes the story even more tragic.

Rlly sucks

@@MeinKvnt also great in knights tale

its so sad that often the most talented artists, actors, singers etc. struggle so bad in this world, and really suffer on their mind so badly, !!! anybody an idea why is that???

It's also more tragic that he left his daughter as an orphan.

TheBryanScout now that is something!

Looking cool Joker!

watch the New Movie

@@trimq2304 pretty sure the new movie isnt related

@@trimq2304 bit gutted the new movie give him a back story of a loner who fantasised over murdering people and having a girlfriend before killing his own mother

People die if they are killed.

You Tube big brain

every 60 seconds, a minute passes in africa

BIG BRAIN TIME

LMAO!!!!! 😂😂

Fabian Joker did in a way succeed. He wanted Batman to kill to prove a point. He wanted to show that even Batman could be corrupted. When Batman killed Two-Face him and Gordon’s “Noble lie” made him a monster in the eyes of Gotham, just like Joker wanted. And Batman kills Two-Face so Joker succeeded either way.

Ghost _ does he kill joker? I thought he leaves him hanging on the tower and is found by the swat team. Ultimately putting him in high high security prison, and never having to worry about him again.

@Fabian he did kill harvey dent tho

Fabian he got Batman to kill Harvey dent

Fabian killing Batman would have made him a martyr and would have caused more vigilantes who would increase the escalation from the criminals, he killed the idea of Batman. Joker eliminated the mobs and got rid of Batman leading to the 8 greatest years in Gotham’s history

anything a smart person could do without any training. your brain failed you

@@yourpersonalspammer ??

@@yourpersonalspammer ah yes, any smart person can become special forces without training. you are a genius sir.

@@yourpersonalspammer 4Head

Liberal Socialist guns are too quick you can't savour all the little... emotions

Luke Skywalker good try... but do you know their backgrounds?

Luke Skywalker ill have you know good sir I have 2k hrs in squad so I’m basically better than any solider in the universe kichow

ÅTīS Tīcc Fük M.F. I am truly not worthy now knowing this

OtiS__bZ yeah man i play like gta so ik shit

Luke Skywalker thank you.... reading through all the idiots here was painful

We went from Heath as the joker to Jared Leto as the joker. Such a shame. Heath was a god at acting. Leto is an idiot.

@@osvaldwulf9960 the original plan was to have a dual Bane/Joker villain in the third movie. And Bane was Joker’s next step in his plan. Of course ledger’s death forced to Nolan to substantially rewrite the third film.

@Stefan Kovacevic I think phoenix did great he played a different version of the character

@Stefan Kovacevic the movie was shit, but phoenix was really good as the joker

Assuming they’d go with the military origin story: they’d probably have him be a soldier deployed to Afghanistan, being assigned to a squad that he’d become close with. They’d designate different call-signs for each other, and his would be “Joker” since he’d be the funny guy in the squad. Maybe he’d take this to heart and put a Joker card in his helmet or something. Then when him and his squad are in a truck, it explodes from a landmine and he’s the only survivor with no working radios or anything to use to call for backup. Finally to parallel DKR, he’d make the long trek back to America, going AWOL after going insane and convincing himself he was left for dead. It would be then that his old persona would die and “The Joker” would be born. He’d eventually return to Gotham, his hometown, donning a clown outfit as his own bizarre way of honoring his fallen comrades, and deadset on having revenge by causing chaos.

Michael Munson right shoulder ARMS!!!!! Port ARMS!!!

Exactly. Could of been a cop that got the raw end in some other city.

@@CainTheMain nah because they would have found out his identity

@@Enzo-si1it both cops and soliders are taught that, which is basically for Honor Guard

Yes, he fit into the Honor Guard without any issue.

Great quote from Trevor Goodchild.

What if this quote was referring to joker himself when he was in the military. Maybe joker got tortured then he got left for dead then he became insane

No one cared who I was until I put on the mask..

@@Balenboggers damn that's a good interpretation

Why so serious

He was a soldier and a group, maybe his, got blown up. When his tour was over he was recruited by a government agency, CIA probably since the Agency does take on veterans as contractors. He was given the code name “Joker” and all his records were classified above top secret when he was sent on an infiltration mission which is why he is not in any databases. He was caught and the CIA burned him, cutting all ties and denying any connection leaving him to be tortured which is how he got his scars. Eventually he managed to escape, psychologically broken and with a deep hatred of the system which betrayed him and now tries to destroy it.

@@codieomeallain6635 both of these conclusions make the most sense to me. Also alluding to the point in the movie where he refers to how he got his scars from his father he probably wasn’t actually harmed physically just scarred mentally which is why he says why so serious and let’s put a smile on that face. Where he alluded to his wife though she probably actually had scars and when he returned after escaping or being released from whoever tortured him later in life and appearing with similar scars she I think she did leave him after drifting and being homeless for a while and ending up in Gotham and his story continued from there. TLDR mentally scarred by father, get married, wife scarred still love her, served in military spec ops, team died and was covered up, hired by gov to be contractor, captured and tortured, left to burn, escape/released, return home wife horrified and left him, no money drifter, end up in Gotham, now as mentally sane as the Comedian, fights for chaos and to sow distrust in Batman.

Isn't that 98% the same as what this video is saying??

@@HILAL19564 I just threw out my theory, which overlapped with this video in some parts, while adding on some things.

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Mans still liking comments after two years

And wrong. Batman killed Harvery Dent and turned to surveilance of all of Gotham to find the Joker, showing that there really is no depth (this version of) the Batman won't stoop to for his sense of morality. He really did show that the Batman can't be trusted with the power he has and even Bruce realizes it, handing it over to Fox, who destroys it.

Unstoppable force meets an immovable object

He even kisses the cop on the cheek while hushing him to be still and quiet while he was dialing the phone. -LOL- I mean, Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

He is the only person that will go from 0 to 100 in seconds, just to calm down and ask for what he wants

Random trivia: That cop was played by Keith Szarabajka, the voice actor of The Didact from Halo 4.

Don't neccesarily agree here. People seem to think mentally ill people can't be geniuses. Unibomber Ted Kacynski was mentally ill yet still a genius with a philosophy. I think Jokers background is most similar to his,especially when you factor in the unkept appearance.

Well, antisocial personality disorder is really more about criminal behavior than emotional outbursts, hallucinations, etc.

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@@at-hl3ij wtf?

@@at-hl3ij so profound

*irredeemable

@@ArkaeaFCL3 no

@@thevroom1643 no? That statement doesn't make sense. As incorruptible as the joker is redeemable? That means batman isn't incorruptible at all. Means he can be corrupted. The joker will never be redeemed. Its impossible after everything he's done.

Red Nightshade I think you misread the statement

Red Nightshade if you look at the comics, Batman does snap and joker is redeemed

The fuck

That’s what I remember thinking too (not necessarily marines but some sort of military personnel)

fwiw and 2yrs later, hope you doing alright, my dude ~A canadian 40s yr old dude

Hope the shock is not bothering you.

Indeed

Scarecrows fear toxin may of been the final catalyst that set off the joker after all his trauma

Eli Davis So does the "ex-military" backstory frightening you ruin the Joker for you?

chaoscerberus ...may *have been....

CommentCop Badge#666 use context clues and figure it out.

Not exactly, it could also mean he knows human behaviour to the level of knowing what you're thinking, I mean all his plans were exact, he is a psychopath but psychopaths tend to to be better at blending into society and manipulating people.

@@Th30th3rJ0J0 very true, I meant it more in a way that its a possible piece of evidence for the ex soldier theory.

Also when he is being interrogated by Batman he says “ don’t start with the head the victim gets a all fuzzy”

Kylo Ren oh good catch

Wrong if he was a veteran their would be info fingerprints data numbers the army just dont get anyone in the streets this is why this theory fails when a soldier dies they have all the info so they can tell their families that he died and then they give them money i just killed this theory thank me later boss

@@goldenhd9656 plus 21 gun salute

Golden HD you do know that in the movie they literally tried to find his fingerprints and couldn’t right? Lol and that this guy in the video explained what type of military he was referring to?

@@KeanuPitt If he was in the special forces like the navy seals or delta force then sure.

War Veteran Joker or Origins Sadistic Clown explored

Just clocked that

Flying shadow man meme

Paperclip it’s from the dark knight just edited. When the joker was disguised during the parade.

Don't Dead, Open Inside

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Or the rooftops during the LA riots speaking Korean

JOJO!?

@Yuri Soyboyka everybody gangsta till the sand says: "التوبة لأنك قد أخطأت"

General ThisRhax yooo😂😂😂😂

imBadman you explained it Now there’s no joke

Here's a joke. Your profile picture Because your profile picture is dumb Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha It's not a joke because I explained it so it's funnier

@@at-hl3ij ironic.

Are you the real batman? _WeLl ThEn WhY dO Ya DrEsS uP lIkE hIm?!_

RIP Brian Douglas

That would be a fascinating backstory.

It would make more sense if he was TDKs Jokers father because then the ages would make sense

@YoungD3mon314 a random civilian probably will be thrown off balance from the kick back while firing RPG.. hence reduce the accuracy. so, this still a plus for ex-army joker theory

@@flatearth245 Hate to be do a douche, but you're actually wrong. RPGs actually have almost no recoil because the blast from the propellant exits out the back. Firearms have recoil because the energy from the ignition of propellant is pushed back into the gun. However, with rocket launchers, the energy is directed from the back which itself is often lethal to about 10+ feet from the back. Also, the RPG-7 has excellent accuracy at about 100 yards where even someone with minimal training can hit a moving target at about 96% of the time according to US Army studies. Enough, with the nitpicking. I agree with the theory of an ex-military Joker. He is clearly competent with a number of different firearms (from pistols to submachine guns to rifles), he knows how to work with explosives (his grenade suicide vest, the aforementioned RPG-7, the bomb at the hospital, and gasoline bombs for Harvey and Rachel), he has organizational skills (he was able to get groups as diverse as professional bank robbers, street thugs, and the mentally ill to work efficiently to achieve a task), he is familiar with interrogations (being on either end of them), and his fighting style is clearly far more refined than street brawling, but lacks elaborate kicks or clean combos, it focuses on quick moves that are meant to seriously injure or kill his opponent (which is very similar to combatives taught in various armed forces). It is perfectly plausible the Joker was someone like a Green Beret or CIA Special Operations Group. Someone who is trained in a wide variety of skills with leadership ability and a significantly higher competence level than your average soldier. It's possible that what he had to and what he experienced lead him to become bitter and cynical and turn his skills against a society that he found hypocritical. Many war veterans talk about how war reveals the worst impulses in humanity on both the individual and group level and how quickly even otherwise nice and civilized men quickly become sadistic beasts. Of course, there's also the possibility he was always bad. Not every bad person in the military got that way due to trauma suffered in war or being brutalized in training. Some people go into the service fucked in the head. It's possible he was always a sick bastard and joined the military because it would give him the chance to kill people. Despite popular belief, the Special Forces tend to avoid letting in sociopaths and psychopaths (because they are unpredictable and treacherous), but some still slip through. His sadism and blood lust could have served him well in combat, but the skills he learned in the service just created someone far more dangerous.

@@libertatemadvocatus1797 You know, you don't have to write a whole essay...

@@gnuhgnauqneyugn you know, you dont have to even comment at all, even if its a simple sentence. Its crazy how things work, isnt it?

@@gnuhgnauqneyugn you got owned ... cheers

Andrew L irredeemable

I agree with you. The Joker’s story requires a man, a sensitive, intelligent, and passion man, to be crushed and then to rise again in a new form. Like the Phoenix rising from the ashes. Places and situations that can crush a man’s spirit include, but are not limited to, war, love, and dreams. When that part of you dies, what’s left is forced to remain alive and live in this world. It is the process of continuing to live when a part, a big part of you is dead, that a man chooses to be Batman or the Joker. Batman’s childhood died when his parents were killed. To continue living, Bruce Wayne became Batman. With the Joker, something he loved and cared for deeply died. With his choice to live, he became the Joker. It’s the same tragedy that Bruce Wayne faced. The Joker, equally as talented as Batman, simply chose another path. The Joker is a performance artist. Look at his face paint. The Joker, like an actor in a movie, is trying to tell us something. The message is: there are many here among us that feel life is but a joke. The Joker’s Nihilism is a reaction to severe emotional trauma. To get even, to prove his point, or to establish moral or intellectual superiority, the Joker is going to prepare his shit sandwich and make us all take a bite.

@@smhollanshead yo this a great commment either he lost what he actually cared for and no one cared or he genuinely just wants to watch the world burn

MarcyyD lmao

That means that Batman will almost always become corrupt.

Wow that's neat

Poor Piggy, first they took his glasses then they kill him, he didn't deserve any of that DX

That's my new headcanon hahahahahha

Just for the sake of accuracy, a Corporal is in charge of a squad

You could tell them "The jokes on youuu! AHAHAHAHA hoo hoo ha ha hehe hoo ha he!"

@Levi Tersteeg You clearly don’t know how firearms work. A bullet shot out of a gun usually ends up getting warped and you’d be unable to read anything inscribed into the bullet. The casing however, is a different story.

@@Sylinnilys Heee hee hooo HA HA

You don't receive a purple heart in the military UNLESS you have saved a fellow soldier from death on the battlefield, not for being wounded.

@@ohboy6738From what I've gotten to know, you receive the Purple Heart in the US military for "being wounded or killed in any action against an enemy of the United States or as a result of an act of any such enemy or opposing armed forces." Although I think that, when you die, your next of kin gets the Purple Heart rather than yourself, right?

@@ohboy6738 US Soldier here. You are incorrect, Officer Doofy. You do, in fact, receive the purple heart for being wounded by the enemy. Saving fellow Soldiers is a separate action and would likely get you a silver star or in the most daring cases, the medal of honor. "The Purple Heart is a United States military decoration awarded in the name of the president to those wounded or killed while serving, on or after April 5, 1917, with the U.S. military."

^It's comments like this one that give me the cerebral vapors.

@@hellfire0332 whats the US Medal of Freedom? Where does that fit in?

Yup. No loose ends and disposable hired guns

One cannot be betrayed by ones people if one has NO people! (Kobayashi)

A rock their loyal to the job and pay out. Money says a lot for people that will do anything for it. Also Jennifer Pyrce great philosophy but Joker wants the world to be mad like him to “open their eyes” and be just like him so he wants people crazy like him and the world to become as chaotic as him

Didn't the SOG operatives do that in the late Vietnam war?

That's more of a Delta thing than anything else, Josh. Being part of Green Berets....well Deltas or Elements or Comat Applications Group are Green Berets, will not give you such knowledge. Either that or a black ops team. Those guys are not your classical special forces. They do the dirty work. You need people with special mentality for that. Also, a Green Berets will not have to hide the fact that he is special forces. They wear the patches on anytime.

🤯🤯

He would be 60 years old :/

He also *lives in a society*

WE HAVE TO FLATTEN THE CURVE!

hes built different

@@lawsonryan24 he's florida man

Look up Patton Oswalt lol he stole his whole theory, he wrote an article about it 😂

Disloyal Moon who stole whose

In 1989 he was a gangster, that fell into a vat of acid, by batman.

@@notaprogrammer7970 so confusing this shit.

Ravox He means in 1981

No you're not.

That's how I always kind of saw it, too. His chin and the left side of his face are a mess and look like they could be the result of some kind of explosion or shrapnel or something. The scar on the right side of his face is very clean and straight, like it was done with a knife, possibly by himself after he recovered and, like you said, learned just how little society for the most part thinks or cares about things like that.

Patton Oswalt came up with this theory look it up he goes into details of what this guy is saying, he just make it as he came up with the theory

This whole theory should be made into a film by Warner bros. But, all reference to the joker should be cut to save the film from hate and any restrictions.

labyrinthgirl17 you forgot ahhhahahhaa haahaha ah her ahhaha

2019 Joker would of pissed his pants at the name Batman..

I can see Phoenix's joker evolving slowly into Ledger's.

Gambol*

*uses nor to seem more justifiable and punctual, yet proceeds to use the wrong "too", nullifying all justification*

Liam Wildish Why are u so butthurt about this? Are you that annoyed, or do you have some grammar OCD lmao

@@user-el4qf3yh9t Why is it so hard for people to know how to correctly write out the language that they speak? Better yet, why are the majority of these comments justifying an error that a 4th grader is supposed to know not to commit? Is it that much to ask that people who want to be taken seriously know how to write out proper sentences? Ignorance is only bliss if you enjoy being the only person that doesn't know what's going on otherwise it's just ignorance.

Ty Calvert 😂😂😂😂

he definitely lost it and isnt looking to impress really just a lil looney

Highly underrated comment. Edit: Now that you mention it, since this universe takes place in the real world I'm surprised a shadowy intelligence agency didn't show up, with Amanda Waller pulling the strings. Joker is a cia special agent that was recruited by Amanda Waller to destabilise Gotham.

Wouldn't that be something.

That would've gave us a Suicide Squad movie made by Nolan. Much better from what we got I guess.

The Dark Knight Rises had the plan to have the Joker as the main villain again before Heath Ledger died. That would be absolutely nuts if Amanda Waller showed up in Gotham City with tons of special forces, Joker having half of Gotham turned to his side by the end of the movie and fighting against them and the police, War on the streets of Gotham, just like in the Dark Knight Rises.

I've been thinking about this particular comment since I was it years ago. And this is my head canon now, even tho I have absolutely no evidence for it. Amanda Waller and her agency is one the big bads of the Nolan verse along with the league of shadows, Joker was an agent of Waller's suicide squad that went rogue and fell off the grid where he ended up in Gotham. Which is why they can't find any of his fingerprints or other dna on their database.

Yes this floor is made out of floor

Yep, this is a bucket!

the ATM machine

" aman was killed to death"

How did u see Joker 4 months ago 😂

HELL YEAH :D

We have yet to see how Joaquin Phoenix's _Joker_ will turn out. It's three months away from theatrical release.

I preffer a comedian

But the failed comedian aspect makes more sense as to why he dons a joker outfit for his crimes imo.

Yeah that's just a crappy title he put in. I read it the same way u did.

;)

No shit.

@@canotajman no.. He reaaly realize it

We live in a society where people only cares if you fit into doors

Now yuo see

i disagree for many of those points. For “advanced weapons training” he doesn’t handle firearms professionally at all and all while proficient with firearms, in no way utilizes them like a proper soldier. Advanced weapons training isn’t just about hitting your target, it’s about understanding the applications for different weapon systems and how to use them as effectively as possible which he does not show at all. For interrogation and illicitation i agree in some respects but i don’t think he needs to be a soldier to understand things that anybody with a degree in psychology knows. I completely disagree with explosives and demolitions as anybody with access to the internet and their local department store can create remote explosives, especially with field manuals such as improvised munitions 31-210 out there creating explosives is not something unique to military personnel. What you said about understanding basic guerrila warfare and destabilizing a formal opponent is also not exclusive to military personnel. My main point being while he might be proficient in certain areas that typical special forces operators are also proficient in, in most cases he could’ve have either googled how to do it, read a book on it, or just practiced a skill like hitting targets with firearms. edit: i didn’t bring up the records about dental and fingerprints in my comment as i have no clue as to how that is done but my guess is it was probably done to create a sense of mystery from a writing standpoint and wasn’t supposed to be a main plot point but if it was there’s many ways to alter or even remove your fingerprints through the use of acid and pins and i’m not too familiar with dental records so i don’t know about those.

@@iank4028 ....most soldiers in the army aren't profecient with weapons lol. Stop watching movies thinking every soldier is a sf combat kung fu fighter hahha.

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@@robjose5669 Soldiers, not being proficient with firearms? Seems a little strange, when you say it like that.

Hot take... I wouldn't say proficient as he negligent discharged his submachine gun after the semi truck crashed. So he had his finger on the trigger.

Nooope their would be info about him data if he was in the army

I think it does too

Why not both?

Force passes through the object .

@@frankcastle4715An unstoppable force meeting an intangible object…

Joaquin might put up a fair fight if the writing is good

Andrei Davis everybody in this reply section has a purple default profile pic lol

@ZeroWolf actually joker could have actually been his call name. They wouldn't just call out their real names, but definitely a code name. And Joker is actually a very common one. So spec ops makes a lot of sense beyond his capabilities.

Critter not to mention he wears purple and according to the theory “was injured in combat”. (Purple Heart)

DoomMarine 2007 I personally think Nicholson was the greatest joker

Also I forgot to mention, the Joker did seem upset when the bombs on either ship didn't go off and he had to do it himself, but he probably didn't think that it was so much of a rising up moment and it was only a small sign of good people there, so he had low expectations and maybe he didn't think it was good enough. People are free to question me on this theory. Another reason why I had this theory in mind was that, Joker killed a majority of gang members in this movie. What Joker had in mind for killing the gang members was to show ultimately how much of failures these criminals were due to the Batman beating them up out there most of the time and how small of group they are now that Falconi's gone. However I think this is just so he can make his terrorist plan work so no other criminal can get in the way. Same thing applies to Gotham's police department. Think about it, these cops weren't really feeling like doing their job before Batman came around and a majority of them are corrupt, so Joker was trying to eliminate that majority in order for them to think about their actions. Joker also attended a march in disguise for Harvey Dent's DA election (or at least I think, my memory's all fuzzy since the last time I watched the movie) and tried to kill him to prove that Gotham has no savior. Batman couldn't be a savior either, because he doesn't have full trust of the people. One final reason for why the theory could work is that Joker was going to have an appearance in The Dark Knight Rises. Before Health Ledger died, the Joker was originally supposed to make a cameo in that movie. He was going to be in a prison cell watching the news where Bane is getting the public's attention by reading Commissioner Gordon's secret statements on Harvey and why he's not everything citizens think he is and this gets the Joker smiling. I'm sure you can infer on how that detail supports the theory if you seen the whole movie.

Them not blowing each other up wasn’t a sign of “good people”; it was a sign of weak people. No one wants to get their hands dirty, and no one wants to take action. His entire plot revolves around bringing the people to action. Ras Al Ghul even eludes to this innate weakness in humans. Specifically, he calls out Bruce’s dad for not having the gumption to act. The Joker was literally trying to beat that weakness out of people. Some people might point out that The Joker thought people could be “mad” just like him. Except, Joker doesn’t think himself as a madman. In fact, he thinks himself enlightened. When he’s first talking with the mob bosses, someone calls him crazy, to which he replies, “I’m not crazy...”. Later on, he tells Batman that he’s (The Joker) just, “ahead of the curve”.

I agree. I think thats why he claps when Gordon is promoted to commissioner. Hes not clapping to be sarcastic, hes clapping because he knows Gordon is the best cop on the force in Gotham.

Nope... He just want anarchy.... He wanted to prove that with a little shove in the right direction everybody's bad

Gamers *rise up*

ViciousCommander the mods will never stop us

Then he did and was banned from his own Christian minecraft server

And society oppressed him for it.

I'm gonna make this minority disappear.

*GAMERS RISE UP*

He knew how to salute and how to do jumping jacks as well

Totes.

Always been one of my favorite

I wonder if scenes like that were one of the reasons why Heath OD'ed.

@@WorthlessDeadEnd why would that have anything to do with his od?

@@SSNebula, because maybe he didn't really _want_ to speak to another person like that, but he had to because the character called for it. Maybe he didn't want to access that dark part of his own psyche.

It's both.

It's bare

it's bear

It beer

It's hair

Are you trying to quote the scene towards the end when he's hanging upside down? If so...... You kind of butchered it. Ahem!.... _"This is what happens when an unstoppable force, meets an immovable object"_

Sry I like a lil ad libbing lol

popping pills sure seems to have stopped it

@@commentcopbadge6665 lol the way you put ahem lol

@Zayne simard moore - or it could be the other way around, as Joker is always in Batman's way so he could be the immovable object

Roguedog37 The cutest dog EVER BOI are you saying the joker is an Scp? Seems bold of you to bring the foundation into this.

SCP j001-JOKER: Description: Chaos, Anarchy. 'We're going to make this comment, disappear! TA-DAH!'

SF, DELTA, or CIA?

@@HUNTER-ve3iw Or other?

An excellent theory from a qualified expert!

Well Jared Leto didn't really have a chance...

I dont think leto failed. He didnt have a real character build up like heath ledger joker did. Dar knight was like a 3 hr movie. Suicide squad was long but had to split time with other characters villains and the story line itself. Dark knight story lone was based soley on the building of the jokers character and the battle between batman. Dark knight is a master piece within itself. This Phoenix joker may be very abstract and not exactly like we see the joker. Itll have a more realistic feel to it. Like maybe the 20's and 30's scary clowns. Very distorted facial paint the creepy you out moreso.

Can't blame Jared Leto for a shitty script, he's actually a decent actor.

Jared supposedly took a lot of pointers from Heath. But he couldn't do much with a horrible script and short film time.

Jared Leto didnt fail. All of his scenes were cut to make way for will smith's fat head. Jared Leto did a great joker. And i do like that joker. But he needed his own film and more screen time. putting him in suicide squad as a fucking support character was a disservice.

Ok “yEa”

Lol loved that part

Saitama: OK..

Ok cause ur a cutie 🤪 Jk jk

Let’s not BLOW this out of proportion

As Spock would say "Quite a logically interpretation of a man who simply has nothing to lose!"

@BLACK WHISPER! That's why I think he was probably normal before entering the military and special forces even. In Special forces you see the darkest part of humanity.

basically, w E L I v e i N a S o C i e t Y

He does say "If tomorrow I tell the police that like a gangbanger will get shot or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up nobody panics. Because it's all part of the plan." So maybe he used to be a soldier and his unit got killed with him being the only survivor and got pissed off at the government for seeing his unit as expendable.

This is a good theory!

Hijiri Byakuren it’s all part of the plan

Joaquin Phoenix's got some very big clown shoes to fill

All it takes... is a little... *push*

Alex Xavier I can already tell you’re the most athletic in your school

Me and my stepdad watched this film over 100 times

U gotta watch it at least twice a day

@@hush7359 no at least 69 times a day

I can't count beyond 50

You and a million DC readers!

That is why Heath Ledgers performance worked so well, there was no clear confirmed backstory. Intentional or not, but it does seem likely they took inspiration from "The Killing Joke" -“If I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!”- If it was intentional in the movies to have it displayed the way they did, genius. If not, it worked out brilliantly. Each of the Joker backstories was presented to an audience that would sympathize with it (potentially) by which, with the audiences perception of the characters, would feel more real despite our distrust in Joker telling the truth. Parental abuse (mob) Wife [betrayal/abandonment?/](Rachel) potential reference to military past (Harvey Dent) and the opening at the end (Batman) where he didn't get to say it before he was interrupted. Out of everyone the Joker may have told his true story to, it would have been the Batman. That he wasn't allowed to, could have been a callback to the Killing Joke. 3 Backstories, with a potential fourth. Each one is plausible and relatable. Each one shows how someone in that circumstance could have become the Joker. You could pick any one and fill in his story and have ends meet. If you had a single or confirmed story it would feel dull. It was Jokers varied complexity of character, with all his examples on how he could have become what he was, that made him such an excellent personality or character. The audience could interpret any or create more backstories and they could potentially fit. So long as the endings met, The Joker was his calling card and himself. His past didn't matter.

@@darlalathan6143 did someone call me?

A joke is not a joke if you need to explain it. As is he with an origin

I’d imagine anyone’s fighting would seem a bit weak if they were fighting Batman. He was able to take out Gambol’s muscle in a split second with that pencil trick though lol.

Also he easily disarmed that Police officer when talking to him about his friends ( the dead cops). Also, Gambl's men in that scene where he pretends to be dead get killed by him. If you look closely he jumps up by stabbing both men in the stomach and using their body weight to lift himself up at Gambl.

That's another hairbrained theory from this kid who isn't even an American or knows American culture and military. Joker would be the last person in the world to join the military

Ty Nao We don’t really know since we don’t have a clear, canon answer to what he was like or who he was before the Dark Knight. That’s why we have this theory, there’s just enough to go on in order to make a theory like it. You said in another comment he was never accepted in society “since birth”, how would you know? If that was a common fact we wouldn’t have these theories. But it isn’t, meaning your word means just as much/little as this RU-vid video. And if you think he would never have been accepted into the military for whatever reason, I bring you: every serial killer who use to be in the military, however long it was (Jeffery Dahmer most notably), you can literally just look that stuff up (“you didn’t bring examples off the top of your head this doesn’t mean anything” yeah yeah well that’s why I said look it up, because it’ll still be there). And considering I have friends who I know after their military years will definitely not be mentally well, I’m sure the “they wouldn’t accept them” attitude means jack and shit. You just don’t like this theory, that’s all you’re bitching about, but hate to break it to you but it’s just as valid as any other theory because of how little we know of the character in this movie.

Ty Nao described yourself

James Piercey lol wut

James Piercey calm down

LexSus KR nope I do the same