HELTER SKELTER Dearly Departed's Tate Manson Crime Tour

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#1069 HELTER SKELTER Dearly Departed's Ultimate Tate Manson Crime Tour - Los Angeles (7/11/19)
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@ssoozee 4 года назад

My father was a physician in Chatsworth, Calif., and treated the Manson Girls while they all lived at Spahn Ranch in Simi Valley, Calif. Lots and LOTS of STDs. My dad appreciated quirky people and never charged the girls for his time or medical services; he loved to argue religion with them, especially their claim that Charlie’s name philosophically meant “Man’s Son”. Oh, man, my dad loved to get them going. My sister met Manson at Topanga Plaza the summer before Helter Skelter and said he tried to “hypnotize” her to come and live at Spahn’s. I was very young when this happened and remember horseback riding at the ranch. In lieu of payment for medical services, the girls baked bread (it went uneaten) for my father and created handmade leather pouches that were meant to go around a person’s neck. I used them for Barbie luggage. My dad got such a kick out of those wacky girls. Crazy times!

@ronr.53400 3 года назад

amazinnng 😐

@kaynemccully5266 2 года назад

Very interesting story. Thanks for sharing.

@danielgriffith3633 2 года назад

That's a trip lol...thanks for sharing

@cookingartguy2170 2 года назад

"Wacky girls".. THAT'S putting it mildly!🥶

@mlsaulnier Год назад

very interesting!

@midwaygamer-ou3my 4 года назад

Six degrees of Helter skelter was one of my favorite documentaries Scott Micheal is the man

@cherihill2003 4 года назад

Mine too!

@RealGlowup 4 года назад

Same! No one else has done it justice.

@shellybuttrum2838 5 лет назад

This story scares me more than any story. I can't imagine the fear Sharon Tate was feeling knowing what them monsters were going to do to her.

@michaelgaynor6866 5 лет назад

Shelly Buttrum,I am sure she was pleading for her Life and that of her unborn child! Sheer Horror!!!!

@JB-hl1qx 4 года назад

I can't wait to do this!

@jackiepierce1467 4 года назад

If You've not read the book, Helter Skelter, you should. But, I got to warn you. There are pictures of the bodies, and they are gorey. I read the book as a teenager and had nightmares.

@jackiepierce1467 4 года назад

@Mark Gable That too, added to the nightmare quality that the murders were so random. And, I don't remember if the book mentioned the LaBianca (spelling?) murders. But, that would have been even more horrendous. I remember hearing something about someone associated with the Beach Boys living at the house. Manson was upset because essentially he had pitched them a song and they had rejected it. So it was a revenge-type thing. But, that just may have been one of the many theories floating around. And there were a great many theories. Someone associated the Beach Boys had lived there, but had moved out less than a year before.

@elanham5764 4 года назад

Thats the worse part of it all! And they werent charged with the murder of her baby like they wouldve today. There were actually 8 murders that weekend

@Kay-fv7cw 4 года назад

Charles Manson is also the crazy one. He did tie up the LaBiancas to be killed and killed the ranch handler. If you tie up someone for another to stab, you are just as much the killer as the one stabbing.

@Michael1966W 2 года назад

I agree

@joeblow2069 Год назад

Certainly.

@spirg 3 месяца назад

YEP

@caspermilquetoast411 4 года назад

Like I said before, as a 9 year old kid in West Hollywood, this changed everything. No more bike riding after dusk. But we took a motorhome trip up north a few days later and here I am, in a huge parking lot in South Lake Tahoe, all by myself in the motorhome (because the fam was out getting groceries or something) .. sunshine and pine trees all around me .. and I'm reading about the details of what happened in an L.A. Times, and it was like reading a Stephen King novel with no one around! Creepy as hell.

@caspermilquetoast411 4 года назад

Something about neighbors reporting screaming and the sounds of "wood on brick", which left my 9 year old mind racing.

@kstewskis 5 лет назад

Growing up in Chatsworth, even my older sister commented the other day to me how terrified LA was when the murders happened. My dad was an LA City Fireman at the time, and even though they weren’t directly involved with the investigation, were highly disturbed over it. It wasn’t until it was discovered that it was the Manson gang who were found out to be the perpetrators (and with Spahn Ranch only about a mile away from our house) did it really hit home. 😳😬. I’d recommend any of Dave McGowan’s work, especially “Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon”, Charlie Manson figures in there too. Definitely bizarre stuff!

@tennektrey5227 5 лет назад

Scott should be the official historian for celebrity Hollywood

@crmay72 3 года назад

Wow, this tour guide knows his stuff! Excellent presentation....thank you so much for posting this! I have been researching this case for a year and it absolutely fascinates me. RIP to all the victims.

@MayorMcCheeseStalker 4 года назад

6:45 --- It's true that Manson has received too much of the blame for these murders. (How many people even know who Tex Watson is?) But the TLB murders were 100% instigated and planned by Charles Manson. The murders were committed according to his instructions, and without him, these murders would never have happened. At the same time, without Watson, these murders would never have happened. Charlie and Tex were a lethal team, with Tex carrying out the murders in a more grisly manner than even Manson was capable of --- I believe Charlie was a coward who wouldn't have been able to stab a pregnant woman to death. Shining more light on Watson's guilt does not make Manson less guilty. They both got what they deserved --- the death penalty (later overturned by the courts).

@stevesutherland6232 5 лет назад

Thank you so much for taking us with you on the tour, nobody knows the Manson Murders like Scott Michaels.

@joshuawaltz9484 5 лет назад

Scott Michaels and Jordan the Lion cant get much better.

@chickapey 4 года назад

Tex did the physical work but Charles Manson was just like a mafia boss... he ordered the hit

@sashamusgravetravers30 4 года назад

I agree that Manson ordered the hit. He didn't take part in the murders as he didn't want to get his hands dirty and besides that he was still on parole.

@mariaevans5793 6 месяцев назад

Correct !!!!!!!!

@songbirdy 4 года назад

I thought Charlie was at the LaBianca house and helped tie them up then left so he wouldn't get his hands dirty in re to actual murder. Charlie was just as evil as Tex. He was just more cunning. He ruined countless lives including the lost young girls he pimped and pumped with drugs in order to manipulate them into doing things he wanted to happen. Don't excuse Charlie by saying he didn't actually kill anyone. He's just as culpable as Tex and the rest of them. If there hadn't been Charlie, these people wouldn't have died.

@paulvoorhies8821 Год назад

Charlie did leave after the tie ups.

@sheilariley1261 5 лет назад

This will be long, I'm sorry. First, I can not believe its been almost 50 years. I was 15 and a movie star buff and I was terrified when I learned what had happened. Scott is THE formost authority on this horrid crime. I highly recommend his documentary 6 degrees of Helter Skelter. I bought it and it is so through and the research he did into it is unparralled. Thank you for this. You are right, Scott. Tex is THE monster

@bonniebrown6960 5 лет назад

Very sad !! I was only a baby when this happened. I was born Nov. 68 . I couldn't imagine what those poor people had to go through . I hope all the Manson family rot in hell for what they did .

@kathrynmcelroy5658 5 лет назад

Jordan in one of the books written about Jim Morrison, it was described that after the murders at the Tate house, Jim was one of the people they questioned because he was friends with Jay Sebring. The book described how afraid Morrison was because he already felt he was being pursued because of the anti-war stance him and other bands were taking and he was petrified they were trying to link him up to this. I'd like for you to ask Scott if he can confirm the police actually interrogated him.

@jamessharp9790 2 года назад

I think Jim was just frightened by the brutality of the murders. Sebring had styled Jim’s hair but it’s not been documented that he knew him well. The kind of behavior Jim was documented to have would not have gone over well in Sebring/ Tate circles plus Jim was anti war but rather conservative politically in many ways. What’s not been spoken of is how Jim reacted after the murders - I wonder if he got increased security or even started packing a toy himself. Looks for sure like his increased alcoholism and weight gain were around that time. I think most accounts would say that Jay was troubled , but generally a really kind and likable person-and Sharon a person that most people would warm to in about any circle. I wonder just how many peoples lives who knew them were also destroyed.

@elsmeervd4893 2 года назад

@@jamessharp9790 many lives !!!😭😭

@krystallovesclassics508 3 года назад

Charles Manson is just as responsible for these murders as any one of those who manually committed the crimes, You are losing all kinds of credibility trying to convince people that Manson was innocent of anything. Manson shot and killed Bernard Crowe. Your ridiculous defense of Manson is as alarming as your support of Leslie Van Houten's undeserved freedom even though she stabbed Rosemary LaBianca in the back 16 times.

@robertfray7737 5 лет назад

What a professional and outstanding tour guide Scott Michaels is....The TLB case is fascinating....

@purplezoid1 4 года назад

You and Scott have by far the greatest knowledge and content in this genre both on the web and on the ground. Love all of your videos Jordan and Scott!! Thank you!! 🤘

@jeffkidd7409 5 лет назад

Such a tragic story, but Scott Michaels does an awesome job of retelling every detail, and honoring those poor people that passed that night. He does it without glorifying the murderers. I have been following Schott's work for years with his website FINDADEATH. Great job Scott, and thank you Jordan to showing all of us that can guite make it to take the tour for ourselves.....YET! :)Thank for sharing.

@margaretl8851 2 года назад

I followed this story for many years, I happened to be 10 years old at the time. My reason for this was earlier that year 1969 my older sisters took me along with them to see Valley of the Dolls which Sharon Tate was one of the actresses. I thought she was the most beautiful woman I had ever seen. Since then I have been consumed with this horrendous murder. I don't think I will ever get over it. I have been to California a few time but did not drive at the time. I believer my next visit I must visit this house and lay flowers. Thank you for sharing this video.

@pameladempsey5943 Год назад

I had also just turned 10 in June and it scared me so bad. Since then I sometimes have a recurring nightmare of someone breaking in and then I wake up, so scared.

@pinecone1321 3 месяца назад

I was 7 and totally into pop culture at the time. I was the youngest of five and became obsessed with the murder. My dad refused to let me watch the news because Vietnam etc... I would sit at the end of the hall around the corner so he couldn't see me and I would listen. Random evilness touched you and a lot of us youngsters of that time. Peace and Love. I've already lived in California too. My dream and goal is to go back to Laurel canyon area and stay there for a week. Driving by in a car doesn't do anything justice because there's so much traffic.

@beckyleisure 5 лет назад

Wow Jordan thanks so much! I watched another vlog you have done about Manson and I fell into a rabbit 🐰 hole for like 2 weeks and man I’m still having nightmares! You rock Jordan hugs and smiles! I watched a lot of documentaries but I could sit and just listen to Scott and get chills his tour was so awesome! I’m sure you left things out so you want to take the tour yourself! I’m definitely sure you will get a lot of views and subs! You totally deserve everything thing for your hard work!

@leannbrooks218 5 лет назад

This is fascinating! My mom lived in Long Beach when all of this was going on and she remembers a drunk man beating on her apartment door all night and she thought Charles Manson’s people were coming to get her 😯

@leannbrooks218 5 лет назад

Lady Heart oh wow! I can’t imagine. I’d be scared to go to bed every night

@aylagregg1962 4 года назад

Wow god bless her xxxx

@leannbrooks218 3 года назад

@@brendaleverick3655 I’m glad you’re ok! That’s terrifying!!

@choward1115 5 лет назад

Very very interesting!! Thanks to Jordan & Scott Michaels for bringing us along the “ Hellter Skelter” tour. It’s so weird how so many folks could be manipulated to actually harm people by one guy yikes so scary. Thanks Jordan great vlog today, take care 🌼🌹🌺🌻🌻🦁❤️

@Gang155 5 лет назад

This confirms that my next trip to LA must include a Dearly Departed tour! Scott is so knowledgeable and comfortable with what he does and it definitely shines through on his tours. He is one of the few places that I still receive emails from because they are always full of interesting things. Thank you Jordan for vlogging this!

@Michael1966W 4 года назад

You will love the Helter shelter tour. I went last year

@redsloane879 5 лет назад

So interesting! Didn't know Mansin didn't have a hand, per se, in the actual murders. Tex Watson was a true monster! Thanks Jordan and Scott for this amazing tour!

@emmabauer1906 5 лет назад

But did basically put hits on those they murdered. 'Shorty' Shea, Gary Hinman, Manson directed them to the Tate house, Manson broke in & tied up the LaBiancas. He was very much involved even if not wielding the weapons.

@emmabauer1906 5 лет назад

@Shirley Bailey Yes, Watson fathered 5 or 6 kids. Some sick girl wanted to marry him & have his children! His sons apparently look just like him. Not sure about Manson's son or the other cult children. They were a murder cult.

@MayorMcCheeseStalker 4 года назад

@Shirley Bailey Manson planned the Hinman-Tate-LaBianca-Shea murders. Without him, none of these people would have been murdered. He personally selected 10050 Cielo Drive (the Tate house) because he held a grudge against former tenant Terry Melcher. He knew the layout of the house, and he knew it was secluded. Manson provided Tex Watson with a gun, with knives, with bolt cutters (to cut the telephone wires), with transportation to and from the murder house, and with 2 willing accomplices. He even gave instructions about leaving a "witchy" sign (the writing in blood). Manson also selected the LaBianca house and was the first of the gang to enter their home. He held a gun on the couple while Tex tied them up. They were then murdered on Manson's orders, just as the occupants of the Tate house had been the night before. Manson thought that legally, he could not be held accountable and prosecuted for the crimes if he, personally, did not physical murder anyone. Fortunately, at his trial, the People of the State of California didn't fall for it and handed him the sentence he deserved --- the Death Penalty.

@nellsdaughter1960 3 года назад

@@emmabauer1906 watson fathered 4 kids

@caroleroseburgh1344 5 лет назад

Hi Jordan, I don't care how many times I hear about the Tate- Labionca murders I always find out that there are things that I have never heard before, Or just had no clue about.so again Jordan I thank you for sharing your time and details with us, have a great day ☺️ 🖐️👊 👍💯 💯🔥🔥 🔥.

@viborrr 5 лет назад

Abbey Road cover was taken between 11 and noon on August 8 whereas Tate murders took place during the early hours of August 9 which, along with the 8 hour time difference, amounts to almost 24 hours. Somebody should call out the otherwise super meticulous Scott on this!

@songbirdy 5 лет назад

Manson was still legally culpable, esp at the LaBianca house. He was there and tied them up. He left not wanting to get his hands dirty with murder but he made himself part of the whole crime including what happened afterward.

@Nyleao4Reel 2 года назад

The Haunted Mansion at Disneyland trivia is off by a day, but still super interesting. The murders happened on August 8th, Mansion opened in August 9th. Just mere hours away. Pretty interesting!

@janadeubner9883 5 лет назад

Great tour! Scott is so knowledgeable and personable. Makes me wish I lived in the area so I could take the tour and be part of the festivities in August! Hope you are in town to make it!

@deebrown6160 5 лет назад

I always enjoy Dearly Departure tours! Can't wait to see your Europe vlogs! Thank you for sharing😊❤

@amyjojinkerson6745 3 года назад

I was 6 years old and remember hearing about the whole story

@levistubbs8949 5 лет назад

Michael's got a great voice for this stuff !

@Bluzian74 4 года назад

Yeah, excellent intonation, phrasing, pacing and syntax. I agree. I thought the same thing! Cheers.

@ajogg 5 лет назад

Scott always seem to have a boundless knowledge of his tour subjects. Must make the tours even better with the audio/visual stuff he provides as well.

@kathrynmcelroy5658 4 года назад

I've never heard anybody give great minute, unknown details like Scott! And of course the manson murders has an incredible amount of details that just keeps daisy chaining.

@glassslide 4 года назад

Looks like an amazing tour, his passion is real, you can't fake that, awesome vlog!

@NineInchNails16 5 лет назад

Thanks for this!🤙 I've seen this dude's documentary on the Manson murders. Pretty cool seeing all the places with the stories.

@MartyPowell55 5 лет назад

Fantastic brother! Scott is so informative and what i like about the way he delivers the story is 2nd to none..He also keeps his info as up to date as possible.. I.e. Mrs Labianca's financials.. Have a great day and Thank you!

@marinawilliams7477 4 года назад

whats wrong with Mrs La Bianca’s daughter???🙈🙈how could she forgive him???

@renatawarec 4 года назад

I think she was hoping she would be his girlfriend

@aimee2014 3 года назад

What a great tour guy who really knows his job. Great job jordan as usual

@melloone611 3 года назад

I have to agree with Dearly Departed when he says Charles TEX Watson was the real monster the nights of Aug 9&10 1969. Not to minimize Mansons or the others roles in this insanity. For me, the kick in the teeth to all the victims was Watson being able to marry and father four CHILDREN. Just sick.

@jodyhoevel6393 4 года назад

I wish the ending would have been the same as Tarantino's movie.........

@brucegaskins7188 5 лет назад

Once again Jordan another totally cool video of somewhere I'll never have a chance to see thank you for sharing

@tim197163 5 лет назад

When I get out to la I want to do one of those tours

@dana_brooke_27 3 года назад

The way they portrayed Manson none of us were safe. I was an 8yr old in New York scared to death.

@skysthelimit2202 5 лет назад

This guy is entertaining as hell. Great vdo

@shelzbelz2341 5 лет назад

Great. It is so interesting and so horrible a story at the same time. Thanks, Jordan.

@kaymad143 2 месяца назад

That was an awesome tour! Thank you for sharing it, Jordan!

@lauriecoleman6361 5 лет назад

I enjoyed listening to Scott's stories. He really knows his stuff! Thanks Jordan for sharing this tour with us!

@GieCampbel-ug9jl 4 года назад

He only knows what the msm wants us to know. Polansky knows what happened and fled to Europe for his alibi.

@Filmnvinyl 5 лет назад

I love these tours. Scott Michaels knows his stuff. Great vlog!!

@peterm1826 5 лет назад

Film & Vinyl not necessarily

@Kay-fv7cw 4 года назад

Not all said was accurate.

@craiganderson275 3 года назад

@@Kay-fv7cw what wasn’t accurate?

@MICHELLE-gu2qc 5 лет назад

Wow what a great surprise. I have always wanted to see this tour. Scott is very detailed in all his tours. The 60 s night would be a blast to attend... Great job Jordan and Scott

@Charlotte66666 5 лет назад

If I ever visit America, I'd definitely make sure one of the reasons would be to take this tour.

@funkoholic1952 5 лет назад

This is the most interesting of the tour companies in Hollywood/LA. No one does it like Scott. I lived in LA when the murders happened. It was a weird time.

@flashman7612 5 лет назад

The best channel on YT, the girlfriend and i love it...we also love Jah.

@blazefairchild465 5 лет назад

Thank you , I had never know where Jay the Hair dressers shop was. Nice tour.

@Fiftynine414 4 года назад

Black Panthers murdered officers - guide makes them sound so innocent. They were thugs and murders. Tex also had help with his killing from Susan Atkins. She helped kill Frykowski and Tate.

@RhettyforHistory 5 лет назад

Scott does such an amazing job with his tours. I definitely want to go on one sometime. It's very impressive to hear him tell all the stories. I didn't realize so much pop culture intertwined. Especially with bv Batman.

@carolynparton8842 5 лет назад

I would love to go on this tour.

@randallclark8394 4 года назад

Me too I was just in LA I wish I could have had time to go on it but I didn't I'm a truck driver making a delivery

@Michael1966W 4 года назад

It’s a great tour i went August 2019

@JasonKB 5 лет назад

RAD! I love these tour vlogs you do.

@gerryjohnson3566 4 года назад

This case is still a cultural touchstone in California and on the West Coast. Truth stranger than fiction.

@esthergarcia1373 Год назад

Very well executed vlog Jordan & Scott. It was easy to understand the chain of events as they happened. I had just graduated from junior high and started later on in September 1969 attending John Marshall High School in the Los Feliz area. Very crazy times indeed! ❤️🙏🏻🌹🥀

@billfurman1494 5 лет назад

The creepiest coincidence is the Abbey Road album cover photograph (funeralesque) shot on 8.8.69. Great Video!

@suepoch3931 5 лет назад

Once upon a time in Hollywood......👍👍👍👍👍☮️❤️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

@TuesdayLoew 5 лет назад

I love that Scott puts "Tex" as the real murderer he is,not Charlie...Thanks Jordan Love these videos...

@MayorMcCheeseStalker 4 года назад

Without Charles Manson, none of the 10 Hinman-Tate-LaBianca-Shea victims (I count baby Paul as his own person) would have been murdered or even harmed. His direct involvement is what caused all this to happen. Without Tex Watson, 8 of these murders would not have happened (Tate-LaBianca), because none of Manson's other followers were cruel and evil enough to carry out his wishes like Tex did. Just because Tex is guilty, this doesn't make Manson innocent. What a ridiculous concept. They acted as a team.

@renatawarec 4 года назад

@@MayorMcCheeseStalker these murders were very well planned with all involved. No surprises.they all knew because others wanted to go too

@watchergirl4christ 5 лет назад

I was 15 when these murders happened and I remember watching all about it on the TV (B&W). And have always been fascinated about these cases. Read several books about it including Helter Skelter written by the prosecuting attorney. But this tour has brought to light many things I had never heard, very interesting.. Thank you for bringing us along, nothing like sitting directly in front of the very places they happened. A whole lot different than seeing pictures or old video. And yes Mansion got blamed for all the murders but never really killed anyone except maybe Bruce on the ranch. But even that was never proven. Thanks again :)

@cerberus732 4 года назад

Priscilla Pope - You mean Shorty Shea.

@bobski7032 3 года назад

I thought Charlie participated with the murder of ‘Shorty’’

@tonikennedy9812 4 года назад

Great tour, I took it previously. Extraordinary!

@frankb821 Год назад

Really wish Dearly Departed Tours was still running in person True Crime tours...never got a chance to do it, sadly.

@luquezada1049 5 лет назад

This is a very informative and interesting historical tour that I have on my list to do. My hub and I did the dearly departed tour a few years ago and was money well spent. I followed Scott for years and knew the tour would be very good. In fact, I’d do that tour again because Scott was out of town the weekend we were there so I’d love to do one with him. I think it’s nice that he’s doing a tour to remember these victims 50 years later.

@chrishutchinson2297 5 лет назад

I was in high school when these horrible murders took place. In fact the same high school that Patricia krenwinkel went to. It was interesting to actually see some of these places but I've only read about and seed on the movies. Thank God I never met or ran into any of these people. Luckily I was too young. It was really creepy back then. Thank you we do need to remember the victims of these crimes. may they rest in peace.

@BCS1105 5 лет назад

I do agree with the guy in that Tex was the real monster although Manson was almost like some fucked up ring leader of the whole thing. He hypnotised everyone and everything that Manson told them to do, they’d do.

@kathrynmcelroy5658 5 лет назад

A VALLEY OF THE DOLLS PARTY! TOO DAMN COOL!

@brucebacklund9138 5 лет назад

Great video. I was 15 in the summer of 69. Remember the incident well. Something terribly wrong with these two events. Totally F/U situation even now 50 years later. Thanks, man for the recent tour!

@feralLove 5 лет назад

Jordan, I haven't had an opportunity to watch this vlog But I just watched the Fred Astaire one and comments was disabled so I will leave it here. I grew up on his movies and yes, GREAT dancer he was!! He even inspired some of Michael Jackson's moves!! I love the Fact he was so passionate and disciplined in his approach to learning his craft and sharing his gift with the world which is nothing less then awe inspiring. Look forward to a vlog dedicated to Ginger Rogers!

@judys6663 Год назад

Oh goodness me I could listen to you all day ,so interesting xxx

@donnagutierrez5740 5 лет назад

I was a 13 year old kid starting my first year of high school in Santa Barbara California in August of 1969. I have had a fascination with the whole thing since then. I hope that part of the tour mentions that the previous occupant of the house on Cielo was Terry Melcher. He was a record producer and the son of Doris Day. He was also friends with Dennis Wilson with whom Charlie lived briefly. The Beach Boys bought a song from Charlie but changed the title and lyrics. Charlie was mad about it. The point being that part of the reason that house was chosen is that Charlie had been there with Dennis Wilson when Terry lived there. And since Terry refused to help get Charlie a record deal and Charlie was really mad. He may have thought Terry Melcher still lived there.

@Hanzey1966 4 года назад

Dont think Manson had ANY part in who,what,where at Cielo. It was Watsons Madness overthere I think Watson has been partying and selling/buying Dope at Cielo when Tate/Polanski were in London. When they were in London, Folger&Frykowsky partied HARD at Cielo.... And Sebring being ,,The Candy-Man,, They Needed Money, or Druggs Remember? So I think it was Watsons plan to go overthere ....and when they came there , allready killed one (Steven Parent) He was going absolutely MAD when there was No Druggs or Bigg Amounts $$$ there ... And could NOT leave any witnesses to what they done .

@donnagutierrez5740 4 года назад

@@Hanzey1966 ok that's your opinion....but from what the girls have said it came from Charlie. And he was very angry that Dennis Wilson changed his song and that Terry Melcher who lived at the property before Sharon had turned him down on his music aspirations. Of course there were drugs but drugs in the 60s were nothing like drugs today so unless you have further evidence and not theory please let me know.

@Hanzey1966 4 года назад

@@donnagutierrez5740 Well ..If you believe that .. But its Okay , there are Soooooooooooo many different theorys,opinions,motives,books,movie,docus on this case as we both know. In an Interview with Manson, He sayd ,,Go with Tex, and Do what Tex says,, Manson NEVER told them ... Go with Tex, and Go kill Terry Melcher... The thing about the Cease to Excist/Never Learn not to Love song was about Dennis Wilson. And Dennis didnt live there at Cielo.. To include Dennis Wilson in the Cielo Murders is pointless, Thats a totaly different thing... Can I ask you Donna ? You believe The Helter Skelter theory too ?

@renatawarec 4 года назад

@@Hanzey1966 Manson knew Terry melcher didnt live there anymore. But he knew he couldn't kill terry,next best thing.sure scared Terry exactly what it was supposed to do.manson absolutely ordered this.

@LastNiteInVegas 5 лет назад

Great vlog, great topic and info!

@wildflower815 4 года назад

Manson was a monster! Stop defending him!

@DazewithJordantheLion 4 года назад

But he didn't kill anyone

@renatawarec 4 года назад

@@DazewithJordantheLion that you know of.

@maryellenbailey5500 5 лет назад

Mansons eyes always gave me the chills, just pure black .It just boggles my mind that they, did not know the murders were related.Thanks, Jordan God bless

@maryellenshock 10 месяцев назад

No joke about Manson's eyes! Even now ( I was still in diapers when this happened) I get the willies every time I see a picture of him!

@rebeccalincoln8782 5 лет назад

Dude just looked at the title and got excited about this vlog!! Thank you!!

@johanfretzen1852 5 лет назад

I know it's 4am here in Detroit and i had to stay up to watch this lol. Keep in mind I went to bed at 11pm last night and have work at 6am this morning lol . WORTH IT 👌

@becomeaudible1 4 года назад

I took one of his tours a couple years ago and it was fantastic. When I went to check in for the tour, the gentleman in this video was there. I got a chance to chat with him for several minutes. He's very very nice and incredibly interesting. He ended up giving me a "Death Hag" sticker for his Find A Death website. I still have the sticker. His tours are very interesting and I strongly recommend them.

@dollywilson3395 5 лет назад

Well that was a very interesting vlog, Jordan. Just when I thought I'd heard and read everything there was to know about those murders, something else was mentioned. Thanks so much for doing this one.

@oscarmadison8530 5 лет назад

Seeing that the video was a dearly departed tour,I knew it would be good. Nice work,Jordan. 😎

@cookingartguy2170 5 лет назад

I remember when the murders happened and kept a scrapbook from the day of the murders to the end of the trials and beyond but tossed it years ago. Though I've heard those recordings many times they are still horrifying. I will never for the life of me understand how the LaBiancas daughter could have forgiven Tex Watson. I could never forgive something like that and wouldn't want to.

@renatawarec 4 года назад

Sounds like the hag had a crush on him.theres videos of her trying to tell them hes a good man&should be let out.i think sharon tates mother wanted to squash her like the dirty bug she was.listening to van houten describing how they killed mrs labianca was just horrifying. Thank God they're still behind bars.just 3 more to go now.

@kaynemccully5266 2 года назад

Labiancas daughter is insane! And I just heard her daughter was murdered. Is she going to forgive that murderer too?

@cookingartguy2170 2 года назад

@@kaynemccully5266 Crazy. I don't believe in forgiveness for something like that. People will say "but when you don't forgive you are the one that carries the burden." Sorry, but I disagree. There are just some things that are unforgivable, and I would wear my loyalty to my dear loved one like a badge of honor as opposed to a burden.

@kaynemccully5266 2 года назад

@@cookingartguy2170 exactly! Some things cannot be forgiven.

@stephaniebaker1542 2 года назад

@@cookingartguy2170 It's been said that to forgive someone, doesn't mean that you are excusing them or saying what they did was ok, and become pals with them (which is what Rosemary's daughter did in this case, which is not ok), but it's a way to move past the grief and let go of the anger so that you can move on with your life. It's a way of not letting the offender control your life and thoughts. I can hear what you're saying though, murder of a loved one does seem impossible to forgive.

@rgreene152 4 года назад

Jay Sebring and Sharon Tate were not dating during the filming of the Wrecking Crew! She was with Roman!

@sashamusgravetravers30 4 года назад

She was married to Roman during the filming of the wrecking crew

@mountainguru529 5 лет назад

This guy is a fantastic story teller !

@miz_logo_lee 3 года назад

I had a friend in San Francisco in the 90s who was an older jazz musician who moved to SF in the 40s, and he remembered seeing Manson around the Haight. I also had a boyfriend around the same time who lived in an apartment that was right next door to where Manson lived (636 Cole) albeit 20 some years later.

@mickell241 5 лет назад

I believe jay sebring was in the navy before becoming a hairdresser---R I P to all of the victims

@cerberus732 4 года назад

Mic Kell - He was also a Satanist!

@janieleishman9130 3 года назад

Yes he was that’s where he started cutting hair and NO he wasn’t a satanist

@terrijofilms305 5 лет назад

Very interesting vlog/tour of a tragic event. August, 2019 marks the 50th anniversary of these senseless, despicable murders. Manson, Tex W., and the “family” didn’t just kill the actual victims. The untimely death of a pregnant Sharon Tate and the other young victims of child bearing years caused the loss of familial generations for years to come.

@mariaday712 5 лет назад

Interesting Vlog. Great tour Scott gives. Lots of information. Thanks for bringing us along. Safe Travels and Take Care.

@Velvetnoirestar 5 лет назад

Once again thank you Jordan and Scott for your informative blog and telling it how It really was.God bless the victims of this tragedy .May your light shine bright in heaven 🙏 🇦🇺🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

@denisehamilton3434 5 лет назад

Fascinating. It just now occurred to me that this was the summer before I started high school. It has been a very long time since I thought of that! News WAS different back then. You received 2 newspapers a day. I didn't always read them everyday. I was 15 years old so I was more concerned with playing in the swimming pool instead of hearing about some movie star, who I had never followed, getting murdered in California. The news was more distant back then. If something like that would happen now, it would be nonstop headlines and news programs. Very different times that we live in now.

@wendymcfadyen-allerby6142 5 лет назад

These tours are always fascinating. Thank you

@natalieangelo54 4 года назад

I was 8 years old when this whole blood bath went down, terrible and disgusting ,,,they never should get out , they need to burn in Hell

@MiMi1528 5 лет назад

I love it! Anything dealing with "Dearly Departed" I'm there!!

@FiveLiver 3 года назад

and Hitler killed nobody either.

@jasonmcgovern1364 5 лет назад

Hi Jordan, another interesting vlog, I can't believe it has been 50 years in August. Scott's tours are great, and it's even better when you are there aswell. It is still shocking to hear what happened all those years ago. Great vlog Jordan.

@oak6845 4 года назад

SCOTT HAS A GREAT VOICE!

@allisonmarlow184 2 года назад

I was 9, it changed how people viewed their safety at home forever. It was hard to believe that this could happen, or that this really did, in fact, happen at all! It was a frightening time.