Here’s Why the Hyper-Charismatic Movement Is SO Dangerous 

That's a major win for you. Congratulations on this feat

How do you get so much in that period of time???

It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus

Thanks to God, my daughter who introduced me into the digital market. Mores, thanks to Ms Deborah Lee Clark.

Big thanks to Mrs Deborah Lee Clark ❤️❤️

Wow...I hope you ran from that. That sounds very cultish.

Right. They teach that if you're sick or poor that you don't "have enough faith" or that you didn't give enough money

Same here. I still struggle with this at times due to spending years in the charismatic movement. I came pretty close to leaving church for good. Instead I just left the Assemblies of God.

I left the Pentecostal church for a similar reason!

@@UnaGorrionathats what i was thinking i use to be Oneness Pentecostal and this sounds exactly like it

I'm Roman Catholic thank God. God loves you and has a loving plan for you. God does not care for money or worldly things. My chronic pain from my car accident is my cross to bear God makes it easier for me to bear it though.

My favorite Bible verse!

Yeah people take that to mean our own selfish desires. But if we are saved once we acknowledge Christ as Lord and Savior, and what He did for us, then He will work on is inwardly through the Holy Spirit. That means our desires reflect His desires for us. How we all seem to twist stuff for our own means. It’s sad but God has taught me a lot as I learn His word.

You are not alone😢

Praise God that he is loving you by correcting you

Yes

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Don't be too hard on yourself. God knows your heart. Pray to the Holy Spirit to guide you to the true church.

No it ain't... People are just blind

No, we haven't "all been there." Some are more easily deceived than others by this. The devil is crafty, he roams around like a lion looking for someone to devour.

If you haven’t been there, than good for you! No one is perfect and we have all been blind at some point. Your path may not have included this movement, but let’s just praise God that He loves us enough to show us who He truly is. Let’s continue to pray for the blind and those who are still a part of this movement.

Well you clearly tell the ones who have and are prideful in not admitting it. For the ones who claim they haven’t, I really hope that you didn’t get deceived. I have a question for you all, as someone who was deceived(myself) what did you do daily to make sure you didn’t get deceived? Was it study the scripture? Was it Sound doctrine teachings you were blessed to receive growing up? Tell other brothers and sisters so they won’t be deceived instead of putting your nose to sky and saying “nope, not me, I wasn’t”

@@Divinelytuned7 As one who was never 'deceived' but more confused in understanding and needing answers, reading Gods Word in the NT was key for me. I've heard hundreds of different preachings/teachings. I ALWAYS compare what I hear to scripture and to put it in context. Not all that hard to discern Truth when one does that.

I’ve also heard the “deliverance” ministries are big there. Like asserting that if you have a problem, you’ve got a demon. Has that been true in your experience? I’m not saying demons don’t exist or that they don’t attack people, but I don’t believe that the majority of problems come from demons.

Why does Africa have so much of this hyper charismatic stuff?

@SaintDrews why is there so many hyper charismatic churches in Africa?

Because in Africa, alot of people are in poverty. So many easily fall prey to it​@@Joey_Bag_O_Donuts

​@Joey_Bag_O_Donuts you could also ask that same question for America with the prosperity churches. The reason why this is happening people want a quick fix plus satan is seeking whom he wants to devour.🇬🇧🙏

Hallo Christa! Grüße aus Frankreich!

Divine Word.

@CaroleImani Thanks for correcting me on my spelling.

Satan can give you "words of knowledge" that looks and feels like it's from God but is not. Remember, if a so call prophet is wrong only one time, they are considered a false prophet according to scripture

@@jenniferhall4880hello, she’s referring to reading the Bible everyday.

Both the hyper Pentecostal charismatic movement and Catholicism have a fair history of Freemasonry, satanism, Pedophilia and aligning with other religions to enforce the one world religion in the churches. Keep your children away from the pentecostal charismatic movement and the Roman Catholic Church

I am SO sorry. I'm praying for you and all of those affected by the sudden and tremendous loss. God, please give each person affected by this Your overwhelming peace, love, and, in time, understanding. Please show them how your heart breaks with them for this vile act against you. Lord, let the truth be told and set the captives free. May those who caused this unnecessary loss be humbled and changed and corrected. Shake them up and flip it down. Not in our anger, but in your justice. May they forgive themselves but never forget what lies and hautiness can do. That we never speak out of turn but lead by The Holy Spirit. Your will and not mine. In Jesus' name. AMEN.

Exactly! Joyce Meyer does not focus on prosperity. I have been following her ministry for 30 years. She is still a blessing to me!!!

exactly. be wary of this Channel. be prayerful about what is said here

I'm glad someone brought up Joyce in the comments. Every one has had a unique experience. I'm also delighted that Allen and Daniel got together to Biblically teach on the matter. It's SERIOUS. Regarding Joyce, her name is only twice in the transcript. When Allen starts mentioning names near the beginning, her name is first, and Allen says, "I'm not talking about you know she's full-blown all the way in, but if you look at some of her teachings, I have a whole video on my RU-vid channel where I talk about that, but she has promoted at different times in her Ministry this whole idea of prosperity, you can even go to her website and look at some of her affirmations and you can see that she promotes this idea of Prosperity Gospel and things of that nature. SO, I get it, but I don't think Joyce belongs in this category. If there is any one who has mentored and evangelized faithfully in the Church, it's Joyce Meyer. I also think of Greg Laurie. I believe she is Rare in terms of integrity, and even more Rare in terms of her own personal transformation and dying to self over DECADES. In fact, the teaching featured on her website right now is called "Self-Centered", and it's about DENYING YOUR SELF. So I agree for sure that immature Christians especially can get on a self focused dangerous journey and are influenced by the prosperity gospel, and things of that nature, but I don't believe that Joyce belongs on the cover art of this podcast. PLEASE pick some one else.

@@Mighty-ue7bt If you read Gods Word first, you shouldn't need be wary of ANY channel.

Same especially the Battlefield of the Mind series. Truly really helped me as a young soldier stationed at Ft. Campbell. Didn't hear much prosperity teaching from her.

Deception, you know what it means, like some kind of bewitchment, but some are ignorant. The enemy only want to keep us from the truth.

Wow, I just do not understand how any Bible reading believer in Christ can believe that we no longer fall short of the glory of God after we have been saved! Though our spirits are perfected with the righteousness of Christ and sealed with His own Holy Spirit, we do not suddenly gain perfection in our physical bodies and minds, because they are still fallible and subject to the wages of sin, which is death! If they were perfected as are our spirits, then we would never need to renew our minds in the Word of God, nor would we ever make another mistake of any kind, and our bodies would never fail us in sickness or death. I hope that he comes to realize his error and repents of his false theology! It is a really hard position to be under someone like this, especially if they are, otherwise, very warm and loving people and personal friends, as well! Praying for the situation!

Sounds like Joseph Prince's doctrine

Again, it is key to understand NT scripture in CONTEXT> If your pastor is not doing this then that is sad. However, on the subject of salvation... ALL your sin was paid for at the cross. Yes, past, present and future. Your spirit is born again in Christ Jesus. But our flesh is still sinful, and we still sin in the flesh. Christ Jesus in our intercessor for that reason. I encourage you to read Romans and much of Paul's teaching to get a better understanding of all this. God Bless.

Same here!!

Have lived in Houston all my life. Went to Lakewood 2 times; wasn't impressed, did not feel the Lord's presence......it was a lot of smoke and mirrors. Had no desire to go there again.

@belindamoore3518 yeah, it's a nice show they put on, and I think their whole "former compaq center" think appeals to some. My dad took me to Rockets games there when I was a kid, so I guess I already had some sentimental attachment to the building. But Joel Osteen's sermons are basically the same exact sermon over and over and over, just reworded a little.

Paul wrote in the New Testament that there is no wealth in preaching Jesus and his death, burial, and resurrection.

​@gthigpen6989 🕎1 Corinthians 9:13 “Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?” ✝️1 Corinthians 9:14 “Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.”

Hello. What is Daniel’s RU-vid Channel?

​@@blondellepatriciaDLM Christian lifestyle

I lost my parents a few years ago. I know how that feels to see others prayers be answered while feeling as though maybe my prayers weren’t heard by the Lord or that I should have had faith more pleasing to God. I had to accept that death is certain for everyone and that I don’t get to determine when others or myself dies. I just need to obey and love the Lord 💕 love to you and your family.

@@shaniecebrazwell1321 Amen! You are absolutely right. It is so easy to get caught up in the flesh, what we want, instead of what God says. I do know she is with God and celebrating, so because of that, I am happy for her. Prayers and love for you and your family.

Congratulations!! The scriptures clearly state there's going a transference of the riches of the heathen to the righteous.God keep blessings you

But how do you make so much in a month? mind sharing?

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She's a licensed broker and successful entrepreneur from the state.

Her top-notch guidance and expertise on digital market changed the game for me.

Amen!! I’m so sorry about your precious son. May God continue to give you His peace. And you are so right, we should not give expecting to receive anything. We give because we want to help others Any Way we can, Not to be blessed. God has already given us the biggest blessing of all, that’s eternal life. 🙏✝️

Im glad God took the scales from your eyes and now you can truly understand God.

Uhg, I hear you. I grew up in this stuff. My hook on it wasn't the manifesting stuff, it was binding demons. I grew up in abuse (I want to say ironically, but IDK if it is anymore😔), so kept trying to bind demons. I literally saw them laughing at me one night... Always after me🙄 My childhood was pure torture. The only way I am a Christian is that God made Himself real and evident to me. I wasn't happy with Him though 😆😬😬😬 That's changed, and I'm in His hands 💖❤️‍🩹

WHAT about the Scripture that says: "We should "draw together" more and more as we "see the day approaching." It doesn't say to be off somewhere all by yourself...😮❤

Maybe your sister's Pastor was married and he didn't want a lot of women around him...That sounds logical...!!❤

Maybe your sister's Pastor was married and he didn't want a lot of women around...That sounds logical.😅

The church is the body of believers not a building

Some pastors like to go off and cool off or calm down after service. Dont take personal.

I understand but don't go from bad teacher to no church. Find a good one. Praying for you to do that.

Pray and ask God to lead you to a biblically sound church.

Don't be ashamed, they are trained deceivers and could be deceived themselves. Your eyes are open. Talk to God, read and ask God to sharpen your discernment. Your story is a testimony.

You're not alone😢

Thank you for pointing this out! Looking back I am realizing that many of the pastors and teachers at my church would use different translations in the same sermon- and not just "the same verse in the Amplified says ____.". That would be fine, but I mean this verse in NKJV, this one in NIV, etc.

@@able34bravo37 Exactly! They would pick the one English translation that they thought would best support their false doctrine/interpretation. So manipulative.

Generational curses is just an excuse for sin ! You have a choice!

@@donnesmal705 I fully agree, so we also have a lot the belief in ''witchcraft'', so the thinking is , the generational curse exist because a curse was put upon the person through rituals which might have opened the door way . I am still new in my walk in Christ and I too need to lean more about this topic, but these pastors use that to manipulate and twist the scriptures to benefit their cause.

Very true. It's sad that as time goes by, we are moving further and further away from what the scriptures say.

What opportunities are there in the market, and how do I profit from it?

I would really like to know how this actually works.

Do you have an idea of any good broker I can start with?

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he's mostly on Telegrams, using the user name

Wow, that's very interesting. Do you still have the gift? How do you use it these days?

Yes it’s a gift however some people abuse these gifts for their own profit 😢

@@Afrinaturality I still have the gift, not as consistent as it once was. Also, the Holy Spirit removed me from that church because people were putting the gift on the pedestal. However, I think it is a matter my level of intimacy with God. To be honest my level of intimacy with God was a lot more intense then. I didn’t work a 6 figure job, run my own business, I didn’t have a wife and children, no college degrees, etc. Now I have a lot of things competing for my time and attention that I have to balance out and cut out some things. However, the gift still comes when it comes.

@@WeAreRoyalty7 agreed. I saw people seeking me out for the gift rather than God. Which is why I was directed to leave.

Are you an Apostle? Are you over 2000 years of age? The bible is God's divine word for all of us today. Jesus doesn't speak to anyone.

A lot of ppl don’t realize that tithing was done through the sacrificial system of the Mosaic Covenant. They’re quick to say that we are not under the Old Covenant, but claim we are supposed to tithe. 🤔

I don’t believe tongues are wrong. We never get a clear answer on if spiritual gifts have ceased. However, I believe they can happen. However, you have people who will fake it to look more righteous than others and not follow how Paul said to do interpretation. The idea also is to not say tongues are required for Salvation. They are not. It’s just a gift that can come from the Holy Spirit. Do I believe a whole church needs to be screaming in tongues? Nope. But if you believe it is true, let others test it.

The same thing happened to me when I first got saved. I sat in a bar for the last time in my life smoking. I told God this was not the place for me and at the same time I was smoking a cigarette. I asked God to take the taste for smoking from my mouth. The next morning I woke up and forgot that I was a smoker but that still doesn't mean what these pastors are teaching is not true. God will still do miracles in our lives and we will know it, but the name it and claim it and asking for money so that you can be blessed 100 fold is being taught in error. If that were the case, I would be a millionaire by now.

So sorry to hear that

Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. It's terrifying to think how many people truly believe that they are true followers of God and when it's too late they will find out that they are not. I can think of nothing more terrifying.

She has taught some good stuff but also taught error. I'm glad her ministry blessed you.

She has also written over 140 books so that’s where she gets her income. Yes she lets us know that God wants to bless us and that includes financially but that doesn’t mean she’s a prosperity preacher. She very often talks about how she lived in poverty and prayed for towels. Or how she used coupons to get chicken. Or was going to be 40 dollars short monthly on her bills. She talks about how she was so afraid to leave her job because of that and ended up fired because God told her to focus on other things. She has is not a prosperity preach but a Bible teacher. God wants us to prosper even as our souls prospers. If you look at Joyce’s website also look at how many missions she supports and created. How much give back there is in other countries and during natural disasters and so on.

@syrettaajoku2495 That doesn't change how unbalanced her teaching has been. We're all growing but that doesn't justify our failures.

Hence why they made the analogy of rat poison 🤷🏾‍♀️ 95% truth, 5% lies. A little yeast right??

vakashibisevakashibisee I think you need to be very careful with that rat poison analogy which is not from the Bible. As a non calvinist I could apply that to say John McArthur and say that he's very dangerous but I don't think that's the case.

Hi, I saw your question and I just wanted to let you know what I do, not that I am an expert. God loves us so very much and as we know He knows our hearts and our thoughts. If we purely wanting to express that love of what Christ did for us there's nothing wrong with that or the actual sacraments you would use. Consideration for what is available at your home. Example if you only have a potato chip and Kool aid it's acceptable even if you wouldn't have a mind to do so. But if the urge is that great and that's all you have.. When I started doing it I went through Matthew, Mark and Luke to get the best verbage to use or you may use your own. My church uses the little juice and crackers that are packaged together so they let me have some for personal use. My pastor thought it was a great idea. I pray that you talk it over with God and that would be my only suggestion for you..pray about it. Know also it is not offensive to God. And I am quite sure you will feel and be blessed by this amazing and beautiful decision that you have made. And I will go one step further and say that I truly believe God already laid that on your heart, soul and mind. May the God of all Glory overrun you with His blessings of love, joy, abundance, patience and peace. May He chase you down with goodness and kindness. In the Mighty the Powerful and the Holy name of Jesus, Amen 🙏🙏🙏

Amen! Thank you for sharing!

Steven Furtick is very bad news. He is Elevation, Charlotte, NC Rebellion

I have. Nice to meet you.

Can you think of one instance in the New Testament when Jesus healed a person that was after his death? So he was healing before he died. Ergo his death didn't pay for healing. He died for our sins so we could have eternal life. And when he did his healing ministry he quoted the verse in Isaiah 53 before the one that says by his stripes we are healed. It's probably worded slightly differently when you read the Old Testament because he is quoting from the septuagent version

@michaelnewzealand1888 So in Whose Name was the crippled at the beautiful gate of the temple healed? And what will you say about "they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover" Mark 16:18.

You’re right brother! Cause at the end of the day can we at least believe the word of God ???!!! Yes men are deceiving but what does the word of God say ? “Let every man be a liar and let God be true”

It's that simple brother

In the case of 120 disciples speaking in tongues, it is clear that these were actual human languages. This is why the people gathered there could understand what was being spoken. But today we don't see this kind of an experience. Everyone simply speaks gibberish which no one can understand. If they are speaking to God, Paul has clearly stated restraints, especially in a church setting. In 1 Corinthians Paul says: “If the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and some who do not understand or some some unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind? (14:23). Besides, he says two or at the most three should speak, one at a time, and what is spoken must be interpreted.

​@@kriticallyIf 3 people speak different things to you at the same time can you understand what any of them is saying? Won't you ask one person to speak at a time? How much more 120 people speaking different languages all at the same time. That's a mater for another day. As long as Paul said that whoever speaks in tongues speaks not to men but to God (1 Cor 14:2), it means we can pray in tongues. Why should my personal prayer be interpreted for everyone to understand? If you don't have a problem with many people praying to God at the same time, why should you have a problem with many people praying in tongues to God at the same time. In 1 Cor 14:6 Paul says "Now brethren, if I come to YOU speaking in tongues, how shall I benefit you..." In the Church, multiple people were speaking in tongues at the same time, not as a prayer to God, but to fellow men as a conversation. First of all, multple people speaking different things at the same time is noise to the human ear that's why Paul said 2 or at most 3 people should speak turn by turn. Secondly, since people cannot understand what they're saying, Paul said let one person interpret.

Very sad. So sorry. May the Lord comfort you.