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In this episode I provide the history of the Chevrolet Cavalier, how it differed so much from today's cars by having so many body styles, but also how it shared almost the exact same look with four other cars in the GM lineup across the Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Buick, and Cadillac brands.
Contact me at pomeara1234@gmail.com if you used to own a car from the 80s to early 2000s that you rarely see on the road today and would like me to devote a future episode to that car.

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@loutruckmd
@loutruckmd 3 года назад
I remember, I was a mechanic for chevrolet in 1985. We received a truck load of cavaliers, that were Buick in the back and chevrolet in the front. That was a complete mess. There were six of them. I don't know what happened to them. One by one they all disappeared. I am not sure if they were sold, I never saw one come in for service. Believe me, I looked, every time.
@mikegabler5124
@mikegabler5124 3 года назад
Not quite as bad, but when I purchased a new S-10 in 1990 it literally had 2 different style side mirrors. One bigger truck mirror and one smaller car-style mirror. I told the dealership I wanted it replaced under warranty after purchase, then they didn't want to do it. I had to force them. Little did I know that the brand new 1990 Cavalier we purchased new and that new S-10 were so full of problems I have never purchased a GM vehicle since.
@hotrodmercury3941
@hotrodmercury3941 3 года назад
Rare cars now!
@mtndew78ss
@mtndew78ss 3 года назад
My dad is retired from a state run power plant. He once told me one of the fleet vans, a Chevy Astro had a grill that was meant for a GMC Safari. That's the way it got delivered. It was a work van so nobody cared.
@szilardtoth8814
@szilardtoth8814 2 года назад
😁 When I purchased my 1997 Chevrolet Trans Sport in 2010, It had a Pontiac badged steering wheel inside. Basicly this minivan is a mixture of Chevy Venture and Pontiac Trans Sport... By the way Oldsmobile Alero of Europe is/was Chevrolet Alero. Some of them wore Chevy badges on the outside but on the steering wheel the Olds badge appeared. Any combination was/is possible... Whatever kinda parts available They [GM] had on their shelves, they had installed it into... By the way I also saw a 1978 Caprice 4 door sedan equiped with an Electra front. It looked well!
@moyo6606
@moyo6606 2 года назад
I definitely saw one of these about 15 years ago!! I was like wtf is this?
@LowSpecActionSquad
@LowSpecActionSquad 3 года назад
I just pulled an 87 sunbird from a junkyard with only 62,000 miles, I got it back on the road and now it's my daily driver
@McVaio
@McVaio 3 года назад
That's awesome! Props for saving that car.
@littlejohnny47
@littlejohnny47 3 года назад
You should have left it where it was! I hope after you drive it a while you learn why most of them belong in a junkyard!
@LowSpecActionSquad
@LowSpecActionSquad 3 года назад
@@littlejohnny47 so far it's been amazing lol, great gas mileage too! I'm averaging about 36 mpg, but to be fair most of my driving is on the highway
@jedahn
@jedahn 5 месяцев назад
Wow
@patrickracer43
@patrickracer43 3 года назад
No one: GM: "screw it, put ALL our badges on this car"
@andysaunders3708
@andysaunders3708 2 года назад
Also sold as the Holden Camira, the Isuzu Aska and only God knows what else around the globe. I had a JJ Camira, and it was great, but it died of terminal corrosion. Have only ever seen one for sale in NZ over the last 5 years.
@blank7652
@blank7652 3 года назад
The year is 2021. I still drive a Chevy Cavalier from 2001. Damn thing won't die.
@dantebrytant5285
@dantebrytant5285 3 года назад
My cavalier couldn't stand up to my feet with baby 4 cycinder engine
@raytiger3707
@raytiger3707 3 года назад
i love my 2005 cavalier coupe....it is a perfect car for me.
@hzreviews9910
@hzreviews9910 3 года назад
@Snake Plissken must not be kept up on. My dads was at 280k until totaled and mines at 189k and runs strongs
@rexjolles
@rexjolles 3 года назад
@Snake Plissken these things are all over my city lmao they go like champs. all rusted out and peeling clear coat
@rexjolles
@rexjolles 3 года назад
@Snake Plissken they're literally everywhere here. and pontiac gran prix's as well. lots of the late 90's ones and the 80's wagons.
@m1k3l1f3
@m1k3l1f3 3 года назад
In my small prairie town, Sunfires are still on the road today. In fact, my friend just recently in 2020 bought one and daily's it.
@mattiemadison1234
@mattiemadison1234 3 года назад
Kansas has a lot of sunfires still on the road
@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts
@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts 3 года назад
I'm not surprised. Small towns aren't flooded with dealerships and "I need a new car every year" kind of people so you'll find all sorts of older used cars for sale
@WavveBoi
@WavveBoi 3 года назад
There's a z24 cavalier just down the road from me. I checked it out pretty hard lol
@electricpunch9530
@electricpunch9530 3 года назад
In New Mexico the sunbirds are common, there’s a guy I went to high school with that drove it for dominos delivery 🤪
@12pawsinn
@12pawsinn 3 года назад
I miss my 90 sunbird gt turbo... surprised alot of people back in 98
@rickiehathaway8649
@rickiehathaway8649 3 года назад
I'm shocked you didn't mention the Toyota Cavalier, it was a literal badge swap
@EternalLatias
@EternalLatias 3 года назад
I was waiting for him to mention that. I was disappointed.
@bricegraham8256
@bricegraham8256 3 года назад
@@EternalLatias Oh yeah weren't those sold in Japan only?
@Lando-kx6so
@Lando-kx6so 3 года назад
@@bricegraham8256 yup but ended up all over the world with 2nd hand imports of jdm vehicles. You can find a few of them in New Zealand, Kenya, Jamaica & other big markets for used Japanese imports (but their really rare now)
@kxngearner698
@kxngearner698 3 года назад
toyota is GARBAGE
@RickyGuterson
@RickyGuterson 3 года назад
@@kxngearner698 My 1985 Toyota 4runner that will probably outlive you, disagrees with you. Lol
@stevenramrodd1226
@stevenramrodd1226 3 года назад
The only compact that made you feel like you're dragging a boat anchor right off the lot!
@trillamannwinters6963
@trillamannwinters6963 3 года назад
😆😆😆
@askadad7355
@askadad7355 3 года назад
At least they looked good
@pgtmr2713
@pgtmr2713 3 года назад
If you use the throttle pedal to control the transmission shift points, it will be faster and you'll easily destroy the car. 84 Buick Skyhawk.
@hilaireb795
@hilaireb795 3 года назад
😭😂😂
@negativeindustrial
@negativeindustrial 3 года назад
@@askadad7355 What? 🤣
@gimmefuel7268
@gimmefuel7268 3 года назад
I just recently sold my 2004 cavalier. I am telling you, that car was bulletproof. It had almost 400,000 miles on it when I sold it. It had to be probably the most dependable car I have ever owned.
@sdmurphy20
@sdmurphy20 2 года назад
My friend had a 98. That thing lasted longer than what it should. She had to junk it because it was completely rusted away around the muffler area.
@aviatorsdream4686
@aviatorsdream4686 3 года назад
My mom had a Sunfire. The final body style in red. She loved that car. She's in an Acura now but I still reminisce about the many roadtrips that jbody gave my sister and I.
@smashingstuff09
@smashingstuff09 3 года назад
I've had 23 Cavaliers, mostly derby cars and parts. But I still drive an old 98 5speed once and awhile. Sure takes you back when things were simple. Love the old Cavaliers
@tomaszproblem2684
@tomaszproblem2684 2 года назад
Wait a minute...
@cardtrix1970
@cardtrix1970 2 года назад
They were pathetically built cars!
@calsand6
@calsand6 2 года назад
@@cardtrix1970 actually you are wrong, the cavalier was so simple yet so unique
@l.m652
@l.m652 3 года назад
First car was a 89 Chevy Cavalier RS coup. Man I drove it everywhere. Loved that car
@manthony225
@manthony225 3 года назад
GM's late 80's Bonneville, Delta 88 and Lesabre too. At a distance, it was almost impossible to tell them apart in profile.
@rigorousrangel6394
@rigorousrangel6394 3 года назад
And Cutlass Ciera or something like that by Oldsmobile
@erikbunty2016
@erikbunty2016 3 года назад
I think the 88, 98, LeSabre, Bonneville, Park Avenue, Electra, and Seville all had the same underpinnings.
@JCtechwizard
@JCtechwizard 2 года назад
@@erikbunty2016 yes, body by Fisher
@christopheryanoski6899
@christopheryanoski6899 2 года назад
@@rigorousrangel6394 the A body cars....Chevrolet Celebrity Pontiac 6000 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera(and Cutlass Cruiser) and Buick Century.
@zackc.8015
@zackc.8015 Год назад
@@erikbunty2016 Actually the 98 was on the DeVille platform.
@wesleydeng71
@wesleydeng71 3 года назад
I've owned a '99 Pontiac Sunfire for 22 years. It still runs very well! They say US cars don't last long but...
@carolleking4047
@carolleking4047 3 года назад
Where do you find replacement parts? Looking for window weather stripping for a 1999 Chevy cavalier convertible.
@tasmith1969
@tasmith1969 3 года назад
No other car screams the '80s like the Pontiac Fiero! Bought a new one in 1985 and later in the 1990's acquired many more for cheap or free. One got a V8 swap and three others got a 3800 swap.
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 3 года назад
And what’s amazing about that car is how absolutely creative Pontiac was with making a car with a completely different configuration to anything GM made after the Corvair with off the shelf parts. The drivetrain was straight off GM front wheel drive X bodies but with the tie rods fixed in place, and the front suspension was borrowed from the Chevette. Unfortunately the 2.5L Iron Duke didn’t have enough ground clearance... so they made the oil pan shallower which resulted in several fires.
@thereedbreed
@thereedbreed 3 года назад
I own 94' Cavalier 2-door Z24, my mom bought it brand new in 1994. Amazingly fun car to drive, you can have a lot of fun without worrying about tickets.
@jacobharnish4241
@jacobharnish4241 3 года назад
GM also had 6 almost identical vehicles on the trailblazer platform, envoy, ranier, bravada, 9-7, Ascender 7 if you include the chevy SS-R which shared the same platform
@sdrape4964
@sdrape4964 2 года назад
Yes, I remember that. I thought at the time that there was no way in hell GM was sustainable if badges were their only differentiation between such economically different brands. The only thing is that I don't think all 7 were concurrently in production together. (I.E. the Bravada was gone in 2004, the Ascender started in 2005, and possibly the Rainier, and the 9-7 didn't come out until 06 or 07, as I remember). And I didn't know the SS-R was part of that casserole of nonsense. ☺
@michaelvachon1334
@michaelvachon1334 3 года назад
I worked for a company that provided urethane bumpers to Ford and Chevrolet. We also supplied instrument panels we called dashboards for a number of different vehicles. Car designs eventually switched to the flexible fascias, and I remember when we landed the Cavalier front end. Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
@zackc.8015
@zackc.8015 Год назад
Body by Fisher?
@brianandrews7099
@brianandrews7099 3 года назад
My family owned one of each of the three generations (technically, since one was the Oldsmobile version). All were unexciting cars although the styling of the ‘89 Cavalier RS Coupe has held up really well and still looks good today IMHO. All of them gave very little trouble and represented good used car values back in the day. Only good Cavalier memories here.
@sburns015
@sburns015 2 года назад
My first car was a 2 door 97 cavalier with the 2.2l, I loved that car, great on gas mileage, reliable and one of the easiest cars to work on
@969thewhip
@969thewhip 3 года назад
I had a 94 Sunbird LE with 5 speed and 3.1v6. It was fairly reliable, cheap to own and fun to drive. Had 230,000 miles when it got totaled and I daily drove it for over 10 years. One of the best cars I ever owned.
@jaysmith179
@jaysmith179 3 года назад
I bought a new 1994 Cavalier RS 3.1L V6 5 speed new. Wish I had it today. Never seen another one like it.
@brt987train
@brt987train 2 года назад
I own a 1994 Pontiac Sunbird convertible with a 3.1 V6 engine and a 5-speed stick. It has everything power windows power door locks powertop bucket seats that match my 89 Chevrolet Beretta an analog Dash looks like my 88 Beretta. I guess I'm a sucker for GM I've been a GM Advocate since the sixties my father and mother owned I found them be fun reliable unfixable by somebody that doesn't have to be a rocket scientist. My 94 is probably one of my favorites but then I love convertibles and this is my first. If they came out with a new one and Pontiac came back I'd buy another in a heartbeat brand new. It's plenty quick good on gas. Great fun to drive when the weather is good and it's fine in the rain but I don't take it out too often in bad weather. For just plain fun it's a great car
@BewareofDarkness44
@BewareofDarkness44 3 года назад
I had an '89 Cavalier sedan when I was in high school. I remember how cool I thought the thing looked at the time, I don't know what was wrong with me. I had the 4 cylinder, which wasn't as fuel efficient as you'd expect for something with such low horsepower. It was fairly reliable though, I only replaced an alternator, egr valve, and sway bar links aside from the normal tires/brakes.
@gerardskowronski3774
@gerardskowronski3774 3 года назад
Great video - I've owned two Cavaliers, A 1987 Z-24 Hatchback and more recently a 1986 Z24 Convertible. The 1986 Z24 Convertible is not listed on any manufacturers production sheets. It was a pilot program for American Sunroof Company (ASC) Fewer than 300 fully optioned Z24's were made into convertibles, these cars were given to the top selling dealers in California. These were known internally in GM as "California Specials" I found mine in Arizona, almost flawless condition with over 100K on the odometer. Fun, rare car for the summer!
@richardnottelmann58
@richardnottelmann58 3 года назад
My grandmother had a 94 Cavalier RS 2.2L. My mom had a 94 Sunbird 2.2L convertible LE. Both great cars.
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile Год назад
My mother bought a new GM 1997 sedan, Cavalier. She passed in 2005 & the car only had around 10500mi on it. She rarely drove it.
@haydenkallemeyn8035
@haydenkallemeyn8035 3 года назад
my first car was a 1993 honda accord. I had so much fun in that thing. you could just whip it around tight corners and that little 4 cylinder made just the right amount of power for 16 year old me.
@mikegabler5124
@mikegabler5124 3 года назад
Between the new 1990 Chevy S-10 and the new 1990 Chevy Cavalier we had, the Chevy service department knew me on a first name basis. "hey Mike, long time no see, what's it been, 2 weeks?", ME; "Well, technically, 10 days, we almost made it 2 weeks!"
@petera5221
@petera5221 3 года назад
Had alot of fun in those z24s. Fun peppy little car back in the day. Enjoyed the video. Had a 92 lumina z34 5spd..loved it..wished I'd kept it. Rare car.
@paxhumana2015
@paxhumana2015 3 года назад
In South Africa, that particular division of GM had its own separate vehicle of the Chevrolet Lumina that had an SS badge, but I think that it was just a badge swapped Holden of some sort, but then again, the USA has had badge swapped Holden vehicles in the last generation of the Pontiac Grand Prix, the Pontiac G8, the last generation of the Pontiac GTO, and the Chevrolet SS.
@UniqueBreakfastTaco
@UniqueBreakfastTaco 3 года назад
Had the 86 Z24 hatchback, 4 speed. Loved that car.
@bponthemove-photography3012
@bponthemove-photography3012 3 года назад
My first car was an 87 Z24. 5spd what a fun first car
@petera5221
@petera5221 3 года назад
@@paxhumana2015 the grand prix wasn't part of holden division..at least not in NA...but the rest named certainly were awesome cars...too little too late to save pontiac. It's a shame.
@MJorgy5
@MJorgy5 2 года назад
Was that a 3800 V6 car?
@robertvance1873
@robertvance1873 3 года назад
I loved my 90 Pontiac Sunbird 4 cylinder, at the time I was to busy with work and I didn't know it had a timing belt and that ended up being it's demise. It was so cool. Loved the interior I would buy another one if I find one.
@mattiemadison1234
@mattiemadison1234 3 года назад
I always envy the kids at my school that had the 86 z24 cavalier. I wanted one so bad. Never got it.
@jebjeep1088
@jebjeep1088 3 года назад
I had a 91 Cavalier. I puchased it new and drove it 20 years and put 180,000 miles on it. It still drove and ran like new when I sold it.
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile Год назад
A few of my family bought, drove Cavs 4drs in the 1980s 1990s. My mom bought a new 1997 GM Cavalier, a wierd orange-red color.
@atomsmash100
@atomsmash100 3 года назад
I'm old enough to remember when the J bodies launched. There seemed no end to the number of body styles and badge engineering at work, but they were definitely popular throughout the 80s and into the 90s. Great video with tons of detail!
@VanquishMediaDE
@VanquishMediaDE 2 года назад
I had the Opel model of this car as my first car that my parents bought me for Christmas. It was a blue sedan, I drove all around West Germany in that car!
@MyerShift7
@MyerShift7 3 года назад
I was gifted by my Grandmother her 1987 Buick Skyhawk Custom Coupe. My first car. It had the 2.0L OHV TBI I4, 4-speed manual, manual steering, the covered headlights, no a/c equip, no rear defrost, AM/FM Stereo radio with blue-green display and 4-speakers (two options above the standard according to owner's manual). Rosewood paint. I couldn't believe Grandma drove manual steering for so many years. I love and miss her, and that "good little car". And it was.
@nineislandshuffle6599
@nineislandshuffle6599 3 года назад
Cavs were all over the place in late 80s and early 90s. I owned a new 98 Cav 5 speed manual in red. Loved that car. It was surprisingly roomy for hauling stuff when you kicked the back seat down.
@TheGramophoneGirl
@TheGramophoneGirl 3 года назад
I had the UK version, a 1986 Vauxhall Cavalier. It looked so similar to the 80s US version but with different front and rear ends. Even the base steel wheels looked the same. Vauxhall was a GM owned UK subsidiary.
@325xitgrocgetter
@325xitgrocgetter 3 года назад
You should do the first gen Dodge Dakota. You had some interesting variants with the 1989 Convertible and the Shelby editions and updates in the 90s as it completed a 9 year model run.
@starmc26
@starmc26 3 года назад
I had a '91 2-door Cavalier in 1999 with 212,000 miles on it.... It was an amazing car.
@rbikidportland
@rbikidportland 3 года назад
I love the old GMs. My first car was a 2000 Buick LeSabre and my grandma and dad had a few LeSabres over the years. I’d love to see one about the LeSabre
@jpinney4
@jpinney4 3 года назад
Would love to see the Chevrolet Lumina, Chevrolet Celebrity, Pontiac Bonneville, and Pontiac 6000 covered!
@cardtrix1970
@cardtrix1970 3 года назад
What? Another batch of badly made cars???
@christopheryanoski6899
@christopheryanoski6899 2 года назад
@@cardtrix1970 they're not badly made cars. Idiots that don't know how to take care of them usually are what kills them off.
@cardtrix1970
@cardtrix1970 2 года назад
@@christopheryanoski6899 Hmmm...Yes-to a certain degree-ir's in the care-but these cars weren't just bad, they were...horribly built prices of crap! Every person tthat bought one new should have received a "rebate" for the crap that they were. Inexcusable!
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile Год назад
We, US Army MPs had 6000 sedans in early 1990s. 🇵🇦 Fort Clayton. The sedans were decent for the era. The USAF SPs rolled around in top end police GM Caprice Classics.
@buddy8225
@buddy8225 3 года назад
Owned an 84 Skyhawk wagon, a 93 Sunbird convertible and an 01 Cavalier. ❤️
@padroooo
@padroooo 3 года назад
Great video Pat. I can't imagine the work that goes into putting this together. Very informative.
@chrisfortin4251
@chrisfortin4251 3 года назад
Another excellent video! I had an 88 Cavalier 4door in dark blue. Was pretty fast actually. Really loved it. Thanks for the memories! 😀👍🏻
@paulfromcleveland5871
@paulfromcleveland5871 3 года назад
I loved my Cavalier. Here’s one for you - Chevy Malibu. I had the 77 Malibu Classic.
@thomasofone
@thomasofone 3 года назад
Malibu was once a badass classic, the Cavalier, nothing more than a small car for big girls.
@paulfromcleveland5871
@paulfromcleveland5871 3 года назад
@@thomasofone Is that the best you can come up with?
@thomasofone
@thomasofone 3 года назад
@@paulfromcleveland5871 Here's one for you- I never in my life as a man drove a Cavalier. BOOM!
@paulfromcleveland5871
@paulfromcleveland5871 3 года назад
@@thomasofone That’s because never once in your life were you ever a man. Double Boom
@thomasofone
@thomasofone 3 года назад
@@paulfromcleveland5871 dont be jealous. Stay in the closet, youll be fine.
@jeremys5513
@jeremys5513 3 года назад
Made me remember my childhood, Dad had 2 Cavaliers a blue 92 sedan and a green 99 sedan. The 2.2L 4 bangers in those ran forever it seemed like but everything around was not built to last
@raymondperry52
@raymondperry52 3 года назад
My brother bought a new one of these in 1984. It was totally indestructible and was a blast to drive in the snow.
@FiregemGaming
@FiregemGaming 3 года назад
I love how GM calls it “badge engineering.” I call it cheap
@MrInternFTL
@MrInternFTL 3 года назад
It’s literally what it’s called
@6484373
@6484373 3 года назад
Every single manufacturer does the exact same thing. It'd be a ridiculously stupid decision to not do it. The same thing is done with literally any product you can think of, not just cars. People seem to struggle with the fact that what is cheaper for a manufacturer is also cheaper for the customer, that's the whole point. Would you really spend an extra 10k on a car just because it didn't share parts with another car from a sister company?
@kennethsouthard6042
@kennethsouthard6042 2 года назад
@@6484373 True, but back when GM was carrying 5 car divisions, badge engineering across all of them made them lose their differentiation and made their purpose questionable.
@upeedinalamb5297
@upeedinalamb5297 2 года назад
This lamb concurs.
@adaamdavis5434
@adaamdavis5434 Год назад
Maybe stick to gaming genius
@the66volks
@the66volks 3 года назад
Awesome video! My wife an I own two cavalier wagons an 1985 an 1992 we also own 4 Chevy celebrity wagons as well
@80fordmustang6
@80fordmustang6 3 года назад
Buddy back in high school had a 1991 Pontiac sunbird convertible had some good times in that car
@mcarlkv53
@mcarlkv53 26 дней назад
My first car 1990 chevy cavalier 2.2 liter 99 hp… rack and pinion steering, no radio, no air conditioner, package 8600$ brand new…loved it no problems ever
@earthdog7900
@earthdog7900 3 года назад
I remember the Z24 being sneaky fast.
@cardtrix1970
@cardtrix1970 3 года назад
Well, it was an empty pop-can with no weight; what did people exoect?
@elizabethcherry920
@elizabethcherry920 3 года назад
My 3d car was a high mileage 85 type 10 cavalier coupe , just like the blue one shown at the beginning of this video
@davidsherrick2804
@davidsherrick2804 2 года назад
My dad bought a 1986 Cavalier RS 2 door new. He special ordered one with the pop-up glass sunroof, it was red with red interior, cruise control, 5 speed manual, he babied it. It was only in the rain and snow 1 time in its life. I wish I had it today. It was sharp looking. This brings back memories. Unfortunately it was totalled.
@ScrawnyRonnie89
@ScrawnyRonnie89 2 года назад
I love this channel. Thank you for all the hard work and info. True car guys/ladies love this.
@jlang8213
@jlang8213 3 года назад
Ok, you hooked me. Consider me subscribed! I had a 1984 Ford Tempo as my first car (given to me in about 1998-99) then the first car I bought was a 1988 Lincoln Towncar a year or 2 so later. I'd like to see you do videos on those, especially the Lincoln.
@warrenny
@warrenny 3 года назад
Decent video. The Cavalier really comes from GM's European Opel and Vauxhall. The Cavalier was probably seen as GM's way to sell in the Euro-look space of the early 80s. It worked. They were everywhere. Even though I wasn't fond of American brands at the time, I actually thought the Cavalier design was at least modern, clean and attractive.
@e28forever30
@e28forever30 3 года назад
There’s a lot of Opel/Vauxhall DNA in these cars. You see it clearly in the side profile.
@megaangelic
@megaangelic 2 года назад
But the J car Cavalier only lasted 1981-1988 in Europe, being replaced with the Cavalier Mk3 and Vectra A in 1988. The Americans kept the J cars until 2005.
@warrenny
@warrenny 2 года назад
@@megaangelic yes. In America, the compact size era was waning going into the late 80s/early 90s. So building a new platform wasn't as attractive to the US market. Also, the compact car duties at GM were taken over by Saturn. Chevy was looking to expand more into the mid and full size where profit could be made
@megaangelic
@megaangelic 2 года назад
@@warrenny The US did eventually use the new vectra platforms. But they skipped the 1988-1995 platform. Starting in 2000 they used the 1995 platform while Europe moved on to Epsilion at the same time, but Epsilion didn't make it to the US until 2004/5. So it's not like they stopped making them, they just skipped a generation then kept 5 years behind for some reason.
@warrenny
@warrenny 2 года назад
@@megaangelic good point! I had forgotten about that. I am no expert on GM, so it's good to make that point about the vectra platform. I had been thinking that gm just borrowed an existing American platform from maybe Pontiac or Olds
@PatrickDunn13078
@PatrickDunn13078 2 года назад
My 97 that was my first new car lasted 176,000+ miles 5 speed stick, abs and no radio or AC. Great car and I saw it driving around town for another couple of years as someone bought it used. Good car, solid engine.
@Oddman1980
@Oddman1980 3 года назад
When I was a kid, my dad had a coworker who had a Cavalier Type-10. Later on in life I had a four door Sunfire with the 2.4 liter twin cam engine.
@joshjlmgproductions3313
@joshjlmgproductions3313 3 года назад
The Geo Metro also had a ton of nameplates. It didn't sell as well as the Cavalier, but it had probably twice as many badges (if not more).
@Zaprozhan
@Zaprozhan 3 года назад
Firefly, Sprint, just off the top of my head. I always wanted to give one a spin. Looked like fun.
@fosterfuchs
@fosterfuchs 9 месяцев назад
Geo Metro itself was a clone of the Suzuki Swift.
@joshjlmgproductions3313
@joshjlmgproductions3313 9 месяцев назад
@@fosterfuchs The Swift was a rebranded Suzuki Cultus.
@keithnewton8981
@keithnewton8981 3 года назад
This was the vauxhall cavalier in the uk and the opel Ascona in Europe. In the uk the inline 4 2.0 made 130hp We had 4 door saloon 5door hatch 2door saloon 2dr convertible 5 door estate
@1dollarHat
@1dollarHat 3 года назад
That's interesting probably helped sales there since it had a little more oomph
@e28forever30
@e28forever30 3 года назад
I remember that 2.0 litre 8 valve engine as quite nippy.
@Foxonian
@Foxonian 3 года назад
My dad had an '84 Olds Firenza wagon that he bought new. Had it well into the 90's and racked up 150,000 miles on it before he got rid of it due to the body rusting out. Only did regular servicing on it the whole time he owned it. Never had any problems with it, which always amazed me.
@OGK_Show
@OGK_Show Год назад
The 1986 model year put me in two Sunbirds. First was my wife's 2 dr coupe which replaced her 81 Chevette 4-dr. The car impressed me. Considering that I was driving a 1984 2-dr Chevette just about anything was an upgrade. I came home with a flashier two toned red and silver hatchback. You already know about that engine, but I drove it fast anyway. It looked sporty and I loved the way it looked. It got me through 6 years of pizza delivery and might have gotten more if I hadn't allowed a mechanic swindle me out of it on the pretense that the front axel boots couldn't be fixed. Still one of my favorite cars.
@patdthomas
@patdthomas 3 года назад
Back in 1983, I ordered a brand new Cavalier Type 10 hatchback as a surprise wedding gift for my soon to be bride. She had no idea I was doing this. After years of abuse, her old 1975 Camaro was on it's last leg. As fate would have it, the day I brought home the Cavalier, Valentine's Day 1983 (perfect, right?), she was stranded at the store because the Camaro had once again shit the bed. Our neighbor had already gone to pick her up and I thought she would be thrilled to death to come home to a brand new car after dealing with that old clunker for so long. I was wrong. Not only did she bitch about it being only a 4 cylinder engine, she wouldn't even drive it for the first week. Once she did, she beat the shit out of it and used it as her own personal trash receptacle as she would just fling empty fast-food containers over her shoulder into the wayback. I don't know how, but that car lasted through 17 years of this shit! Sure it had it's share of mechanical issues throughout it's lifetime, but somehow it survived the entire length of the marriage.
@geoben1810
@geoben1810 3 года назад
@ patchthomas Dude, I honestly don't know how you stayed with the b***h all that time. I'd have gotten rid of her and kept the car with all of it's issues. They couldn't be any worse than the issues that b***h had. 🤤🤣
@bradleybprentice1497
@bradleybprentice1497 3 года назад
Great channel you have. An interesting history on the Cavalier. I came close to buying a Z24 once.
@timmythompson2186
@timmythompson2186 3 года назад
Be glad that you didn't. While quad 4s were powerful and efficient for what they were and the era 2.4s were one of the worst engines around
@andrewdonohue1853
@andrewdonohue1853 3 года назад
@@timmythompson2186 NOT all Z24s had that crappy 2.4, perhaps he was talking about the 94 and older which would have had the 2.8 or 3.1 V6s, which were much more reliable. the 2.4 was junk
@timmythompson2186
@timmythompson2186 3 года назад
@@andrewdonohue1853 I thought those would have been beretta or lumina and a z28 or z 31. I could easily be wrong. That was just my memory of it
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 3 года назад
@ Timmy Thompson The Quad 4 and later Twin Cam engines were only on the 1995 to 2002 Z24s. The 2.8L V6 was used from 1986 until 1989 and the 3.1L V6 from 1990 to 1994 on the Cavalier Z24.
@BMMEC2009
@BMMEC2009 3 года назад
My 1993 Z24 has a 3.1 with 201k and it still runs great. Granted it only gets driven 150 miles a year. It's a Convertible and sits in the garage.
@willdogg01
@willdogg01 2 года назад
I had a 2000 Cavalier Z24; manual transmission, 2.4L. I wish I still had that car! The most fun vehicle I've had.
@RichieRouge206
@RichieRouge206 3 года назад
The J body was one of the sales chart toppers here in the UK in the 1980s as the (almost identical to the Chevy) Vauxhall Cavalier (known as the Opel Ascona) in the rest of Europe. We had 1.3, 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 engines which were a little more powerful than the US counterparts - we never had the Iron Duke here, instead a range of advanced OHC alloy engines. There was also a rare convertible model too and we got the wagon later on which was pretty much a Pontiac 6000, also sold in Australia with a Holden badge. So GM definitely was the badge engineering king back then. Great video too
@punchy207
@punchy207 3 года назад
could you perhaps do a review on maybe like the chevy s10 blazer or k5 blazer?
@christheimprezive2866
@christheimprezive2866 3 года назад
There was also the fairly unknown (and righteously so) Toyota Cavalier, which was a RHD version of the second generation of Cavalier that was sold in Japan. I guess the Corolla, Corona, Chaser, and Carina weren't enough sedans starting with C to satisfy Toyota.
@MJorgy5
@MJorgy5 2 года назад
Century, Crown
@OddTimeMan
@OddTimeMan 2 года назад
My very first new car purchase was a 1999 Pontiac Sunfire SE. I had it for 14 years and it was a great car. No issues at all.
@mattb2382
@mattb2382 2 года назад
My mom had a 1993 Pontiac Sunbird SE with the 3.1L V6. I loved the way it sounded. I miss that car.
@jeromebarry1741
@jeromebarry1741 3 года назад
Dad bought a red 83 Cavalier the day one of my children was born. It was the red car Mom always wanted, but she died a few months later. He retired and kept it. Many years later he gave it to my daughter. He had been a professional mechanic, but that old Cavalier was the most unreliable car I've ever owned. I and all the king's horses and men never figured out how to make that car run again.
@starmc26
@starmc26 3 года назад
Dumb made up story... The cavalier was one of the most reliable cars ever produced... The car was a workhorse.
@generalzod7959
@generalzod7959 3 года назад
@@starmc26 talk about a made up story... one of the most reliable cars ever produced? definitely no. i had one and it was the biggest p.o.s. ever! at just over 60k, it was on it's 3rd timing belt, was leaking every fluid it had. had wiper blades that didn't go to the bottom of the windshield when turned off but would stop in the middle of the windshield unless you turned it off at the right moment. it also needed a new water pump and was hanging by a thread. and this car hadn't even been driven hard. i got it from my grandmother when it had about 32k on it.
@RyanFordFJB
@RyanFordFJB 3 года назад
@@generalzod7959 got a 94 cavalier rs 2.2L with 223k miles on it. Same motor and trans. Was very well taken car of before I got it (mechanic papers from the original owner in 94) owned it for a year and I've not had any major mechanical issues besides regular maintenance. Love my car and is my daily. Has never once let me down
@starmc26
@starmc26 3 года назад
@@generalzod7959 Numbers don't lie dude. It's not an opinion. Do some research. Just because YOU had an issue with one doesn't reflect on the entire model of the course of its years. Are you really that ignorant?
@generalzod7959
@generalzod7959 3 года назад
@@starmc26 well, i'll tell ya what... you claim the cavalier was one of the most reliable cars ever produced. i call b.s. on that. the real test of a vehicle's reliability is in it's resale value. and the cavalier had a terrible resale value .just because YOU got one that bucked the trend just means YOU got lucky. most of us though, didn't get so lucky. for a person who buys a lottery ticket and wins, the lottery was a great value. for the rest though... not so much.
@TheMaboubeh
@TheMaboubeh 3 года назад
I remember as a kid, we had a car similar to the Cavalier called the Celebrity. It was a nice little car!
@scherzva
@scherzva 3 года назад
My parents had two. My dad had an ‘85, my mom had an ‘86. I remember most of my friends’ parents had a variation of that car.
@969thewhip
@969thewhip 3 года назад
Three of my four grandparents had them. 84 Celebrity, 87 Cutlass and 93 Century.
@jeffarmusik9115
@jeffarmusik9115 2 года назад
Thank you for making this video. I'm a big j body fan. My family had quite a few growing up in the 80's. I owned an 87 Cavalier CS Sedan, 87 Z-24, and a 94 Z-24. My parents owned an 85 Cavalier Wagon, 95 Cavalier coupe, 2000 Cavalier coupe and my sister owned an 87 Cavalier Sedan and a 2000 Z-24. Love all these cars and miss mine all the time!
@anthonyintawiwat3215
@anthonyintawiwat3215 3 года назад
my 98' Z24 automatic had 250k before I let it go, best car I've ever had. Wish is could buy another one.
@MrRipper
@MrRipper 3 года назад
Big car USA :) i iike!
@orangecayman520
@orangecayman520 3 года назад
these things are super tiny, think slightly larger than a new mini or roughly the size of a VW Golf
@mikloskedves1444
@mikloskedves1444 3 года назад
Buick Skyhawk Cadillac Cimarron Oldsmobile Firenza Pontiac Sunbird Opel Ascona Vauxhall Cavalier Isuzu Aska Holden Camira
@chrismunro3624
@chrismunro3624 3 года назад
The first Cavaliers had an engine and that sounded like a sewing machine. My first new car was a 1984 Pontiac Sunbird that I special ordered and paid cash for in my senior year of high school. I picked it up at the Pontiac dealership in Pontiac, Michigan.
@FXFBS540
@FXFBS540 2 года назад
Used to work for a salvage yard as an inventory/parts puller/delivery driver. I spent many a day disassembling. Grading, and listing parts for the vehicles you feature on your channel. Good content man.
@therealsnoop7497
@therealsnoop7497 3 года назад
Forgot to mention that they sold cavaliers as Toyotas in japan
@dantebrytant5285
@dantebrytant5285 3 года назад
Geo metro that what they were called
@therealsnoop7497
@therealsnoop7497 3 года назад
@@dantebrytant5285 geo metros were Suzuki’s sold as geos in the U.S. the geo metro was not a Toyota, I will say the geo metro headlights look like the cavalier headlights
@pushmyredbutton
@pushmyredbutton 3 года назад
There was also the Toyota Cavalier which was a rebadged version that sold poorly in the Japanese market
@dantebrytant5285
@dantebrytant5285 3 года назад
Geo metro
@donaldramsey6222
@donaldramsey6222 3 года назад
my first and only new car i bought was a 98 z24. i loved that car, the 2.4 dohc engine was quick and it could handle like a champ. had it 22 years with 168k miles on it, one morning it decided not to turn over anymore. 3 mechanics couldnt figure it out, replaced so much stuff to try to fix it but no go. parked it behind a relatives house and someone shot it up and stole everything from inside of it, needless to say state farm totaled it and sent it to the scrapyard in the sky.
@DanaBlack
@DanaBlack 3 года назад
Very cool channel, great to hear some history on "older" cars that aren't your typical muscle car that is still desirable.
@geoben1810
@geoben1810 3 года назад
Wow, GM's entire lineup of garbage for the 80s. PATHETIC American engineering. No pride, no business ethics, No wonder GM went begging for a government handout in 2008/09. They had been going in the hole for years.
@Wheresthepepsibismol
@Wheresthepepsibismol 3 года назад
People Praise the 88 to 98 Chevrolet trucks they look good but are piece of shits that are always rusting. I'd take a a squarebody anyday over an 88 to 98. 80's and 90's America was making pathetic cars and trucks except the squarebody. The 4th gen Corvette is pathetic no wonder they are dirt cheap and beginners can afford them.
@daniellaubsch1605
@daniellaubsch1605 3 года назад
Miss my 1987 Z24 coupe. White exterior blue cloth interior. 2.8 automatic factory air. Loved it! Wish I had it now. Great car to enter cruiseins/shows. Even found the brochure for that model year!
@chadlawson4405
@chadlawson4405 2 года назад
Your channel is so addictive! Pushing 50. and living in Flint Mi Me and my friends have had most of all the GM cars from the 80s-90s….great memories of changing alternators and starters in the middle of the winter..that’s always when things went out
@brianporter4352
@brianporter4352 Год назад
I have watched a bunch of your GM cars videos, and I'm surprised that GM survived that era. Anyway, I live in NC and see a lot of old GM cars still on the road. I see a lot of old Pontiac's, Cavalier's, and other models from GM. I guess it is the simple engineering that keeps them going. My sister had an 88' Cavalier coupe, she loved that car. Keep em coming.
@jayf6806
@jayf6806 3 года назад
This is great....my wife and I had a 1995 Z24 in red. It was our first new car together. But, as we grew as a family, had to move on....we did have fun with that car! Thanks for the video!
@thomascantwell4821
@thomascantwell4821 2 года назад
I had a 2 door 1988 Chevy Cavalier. It was definitely one of the best cars that I'd ever owned. I loved it. I even cried when I got rid of it.
@troybarnes502
@troybarnes502 3 года назад
My 1987 Z24 was pretty fast. It was so light it would scoot off the line super quick. Fell flat after that but, boy was it fun! I sold it after 225,000 miles and still miss it. Was still running really good. If you get a V6 today in a GM vehicle it is most likely the same one based on the Z24 engine. Originally a 2.8 liter in the Z24, it consistently received upgrades and an upgrade in displacement. After the 2.8 liter there was the 3.1, the 3.4, and currently the 3.6 liter. Great engines.
@xekret
@xekret 2 года назад
I learned how to properly drive stick shift with an 85 Cavalier Type10 just like the one in the pictures you showed and owned. Thank you for the memories.
@calsand6
@calsand6 2 года назад
My grandma had a 2002 chevy cavalier, it was a base model with only 2 doors, the dash would crack so easily due to the huge amounts or uv rays but it was a fun car to drive. We still have the cavalier, my grandma passed it on to my dad and the car still runs like it just came off the lot back in 2002. I love this car, but I wish chevrolet made it so the plastic was protected from uv rays to provent cracks, but other than that it drives super smoothly if you keep up with mantinence.
@deadfishparty
@deadfishparty 3 года назад
If one thing comes of the current CUV craze, it’s that it makes you nostalgic for a car that has no business being nostalgic. Great doc!
@felixwankel3989
@felixwankel3989 3 года назад
The first gen is sexy imo
@pasta-eo5mt
@pasta-eo5mt 3 года назад
I had a 1983 cavalier for my first car. The floorboards rusted all the way through so that the only thing between my feet and the road was carpet. My feet would get went when it rained. Still loved the car. Gave it back to the original owner for his 16 year old daughter with 160,000 miles on it. Later bought a 1994 Z24 convertible. Loved that one too.
@dhomer495
@dhomer495 3 года назад
The car at 2:31 time in the video is EXACTLY what my first car looked like down to the color . It was a 1985 Cavalier type 10 with 2.0 fuel injection. Hey keep up the good work on your videos . When I saw this video it brought so many memories back. Before I got this car I was driving my grandparents 1982 Chevy chevette . I love that video too
@BethanyB86
@BethanyB86 3 года назад
I just found your channel and I’m definitely subscribing. I had a 94 Sunbird as my first car back in 2005. My parents had a 2004 Sunfire. They were good cars, well my Sunbird was falling apart but it was a fun ride.
@farangatang
@farangatang 2 года назад
The 1988/1989 Cavalier Z24 was by far the best version of any J body during its entire run!!
@whynotagain3639
@whynotagain3639 3 года назад
Don't forget it was sold as the Vauxhall Cavalier in the UK too. Just different head lights
@trentryan27
@trentryan27 3 года назад
They were also sold as the Toyota cavalier in Japan for a short while, those cars can now be found in NZ
@whynotagain3639
@whynotagain3639 3 года назад
@@trentryan27 and probably the UK, there's a huge 2ndhand Japanese car import industry in the UK, I've not seen a Toyota Cavalier yet though.
@anibaldiaz7433
@anibaldiaz7433 3 года назад
WoW i remember i had a Z24 Cavalier 3.1 Standard, with only a little tunning on the computer, that car was a beast. Every car that try to run agaist me just bite the dust. I loved that car.
@optimaprime8970
@optimaprime8970 3 года назад
I want so many of these. Good memories. Great vid
@sillyme8302
@sillyme8302 2 года назад
I had a little red cavalier hatchback my sister gifted to me when she got a new car I loved that little car even though it didn't have any power and was running on 3 cylinders lol. lucky for me I only drove it around my town where there aren't any big hills :D
@erinfreize4717
@erinfreize4717 2 года назад
5:25 my first car was an '89 Grand Am SE with that turbo and a stick. Loved that thing!
@1dollarHat
@1dollarHat 3 года назад
This is a neat channel, I'm excited to follow ya along as ya grow
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