Here's WHY The 2024 Mustang Isn't SELLING!

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2024 Mustang GT has been out for almost a year but sales number shows that it isn't as successful as the S550 Mustang GT. Today we look at why the 2024 mustang gt isn't selling compared to the 2023 mustang GT.
While S650 Mustang GT is a next generation of the Mustang, it does not feel like much of an upgrade over the current S550 Mustang GT. I give my thoughts on 3 reasons why S650 Mustang GT isn't selling.
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@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

2025 Mustang Pricing Revealed! It’s Expensive! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jnpktjpNVik.htmlsi=5QTe3KlJg_TJ3jGi

@xrmerkur 4 месяца назад

pricing has to be the #1 reason. so many Mustang owners mention that they themselves couldn’t afford to re-buy their same trim level in the current year.

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

100%! My trim level is 8k more in msrp for a car that just hasn’t changed much. Do you plan to upgrade yours?

@Guy9998 4 месяца назад

So true. Here in Canada, to buy the same trim level and have it optioned similarly, it would cost around $73000 after tax. Mine's not even a premium GT.

@js_392 4 месяца назад

My dealership offered an upgrade, extra 40 bucks per month payment, but downgraded interior, I have a 401a, they were trying to sell me the 200a, which is crazy

@xrmerkur 4 месяца назад

@@Red5oh the only upgrade in store for me are better performance parts as the stock equipment wears. if anything unfortunate were to happen to my current s550, i would replace it with a 2023 Mach1.

@bigmixx 4 месяца назад

Definitely pricing. A base GT is nearly $45k MSRP before taxes! I paid $48k for my 2020 premium GT PP2 with every option.

@brandonjohnson5205 4 месяца назад

I miss the good ol days when you could get a used base gt with low mileage for around 25k

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Right?! I remember getting 27k for brand new base GT with stick shift back in2016

@grantwilks8706 4 месяца назад

I miss when I bought my first and only 90 model foxx off the lot. I graduated in 1987 and my Dad suprised me with a brand new Trans AM that was a white t-top with red interior. I loved that car but in the quarter mile the mustang guys would always put a minimum of 4 lengths on me and some would put as many as 6 or 7. Top end though I gave most of them all they wanted. Anyway in 1990 I wanted to get something else and I was working offshore for Pennzoil so money was good. I seen a grey/silver 5.0 that I couldn’t take my eyes off of. Long story short I came home in my new titanium 5.0 with the premium package and picked up a friend to go back out there to drive the Trans AM home for me. The total price for the mustang was 13,500 dollars , tax, title , dealership fees etc. That’s what I miss about mustangs the most.

@grantwilks8706 4 месяца назад

P.S. That Trans AM went a little over 500,000 miles when the last guy that bought it just pulled it out. He lived about 3 miles from me and thought I would want to see what he thought was the coolest thing. Instead, he ruined it. The motor didn’t even set in the car correctly. It was sitting crooked in the engine bay. Now it’s sitting out in a field where it’s been for almost 30 years burned to the ground.

@CahtzHD 4 месяца назад

I bought a 2019 mustang GT premium with the 401a package and ten speed for 31k back in November. Had 31k miles when I bought it. There’s still good deals out there. I’d never buy a new car. 2-3 years from now it’ll be much cheaper to buy a 2024 GT.

@brandonjohnson5205 4 месяца назад

@CahtzHD I been waiting 2-3 years to get a good deal kn a 2019-2023 but now I saw the 2024 and nkw think I'll have to wait another 2-3 years for the 2024 😂

@jrrogersstang4696 4 месяца назад

Cost of living has gone up..people are hurting

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Yeah wages never keep up! They need to increase our wages too

@ltsAnthony 4 месяца назад

@@Red5ohWork harder and stop complaining I got my dark horse at 20 years old. I sacrificed a lot and worked really hard.

@shanefowler9443 4 месяца назад

@@ltsAnthony righttt you're 20 you don't know anything about the real world soy boy

@jakewiththemark8 4 месяца назад

It's not wages or working hard it's the governments fault they don't know how to budget so life gets hard for its citizens.

@sammiches6859 4 месяца назад

@@ltsAnthonyYou sound like a trust fund baby. Plenty of people work plenty hard, but since you were born yesterday, you'll find that life is way more complicated than "work hard."

@analogguy5548 4 месяца назад

2018 GT Premium owner - iPad dash 🤢 - Will be hanging on to my S550, a great car🤠🇺🇸

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Yeah I personally don't mind the iPad dash having gotten extensive with 2 S650s but I see why it's not everyone's style

@devnull128 4 месяца назад

We all like the fact that Ford kept the V8, manual mustang. Ballsy and awesome but if you build it like dog crap and sell it like diamonds the villagers will not rejoice…

@b5audidoggie130 4 месяца назад

💯

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah I’m definitely happy the V8 still exists unlike the competition

@devnull128 3 месяца назад

@@Red5oh - it’s a huge saving grace for them. Now price it right and build it well and I’ll be in!

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

@@devnull128 yup! It’s a better problem to have than non V8 mustang lol

@midnight347 Месяц назад

Ppl need to stop giving them a pass simply because they still make a v8 manual. They didn't make it different enough from an s550 it rides on an s550 chassis and styling wise the only things that are significant are uglier and the tablets are ugly and it's locked down. Stock for stock they're not even faster and they have worse potential.

@jimsmith8797 4 месяца назад

Uhhh it’s the same car but cost 25-40% more

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah that’s the real problem here

@robertmunoz8039 4 месяца назад

Another reason they might not be selling is car insurance has doubled in the last couple of years. I was looking to buy a new gt until i got a insurance quote and decided not to buy.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

I didn’t realize until you said that lol. My premium has slowly gone up with over past 2 years without changes to drivers or cars

@1922BluePhoenix 2 месяца назад

same here it's outrageous ..and I have a good driving record... I just bought a corolla 😂..I need to save on gas anyways..it came down to what I need and what I want and the need won

@Tim99GT 3 месяца назад

I honestly think these car companies purposely push these prices up just to see what the absolute highest price they will pay before it starts hurting sales, then adjust if needed.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

100%. Profit is what motivates a company and if people will pay then they charge that. Same with dealer markup if people stopped paying the mark ups then dealers will have no choice but to drop the mark ups

@deney54 4 месяца назад

I wanted a GT California Special Convertible and the new 24's were going for around 70K. So, I waited and looked around for a s550 GT/CS and all the sudden a 2021 GT/CS white, convertible with only 6,400 miles showed up for 39K and it has all the goodies and a 6 speed, and I love my new/used Mustang. To me it's new, not a mark on it ... an old guy had it and he passed away.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

That’s pretty much brand new! Almost 30k off than new one for a relatively similar car. It’s a no brainer really

@subaruamazon 2 месяца назад

01 gt conv. saw new conv gt for 68k. u did great.

@Hammerback0 4 месяца назад

"The secrets out!" The economy is a dumpster fire, gasoline cost is not coming down anytime soon, the employment numbers in the US are in the dirt, many people are struggling. All that said, i genuinely think its great that there are still people in the world that are fortunate enough to be completely oblivious to reality. "It sure is cloudy in the kitchen." Those arent clouds, thats smoke, your house is burning down around you.

@crazypkm 4 месяца назад

It’s coming down in November 🇺🇸

@lampi5115 4 месяца назад

Gas is coming down now

@scottersandman6408 4 месяца назад

bidenomics...the biden wants to get re-elected

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah this economy doesn’t help. Many people don’t have enough disposable income to be buying a sports car

@johnrocksvold9105 3 месяца назад

I think it all is on the economy. The economy drove the prices up on the cars and the interest rates were driven up. It is not just Mustangs. It's food, houses, etc... The dealerships putting ADM on cars is the icing on the cake. I'd love to have a S650 based car, but now isn't the time to buy much of anything, let alone a Mustang.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

I remember when they first launched my dealer wanted $2k mark up on GT but now it’s 4k. Off without haggling

@tonyjohnson8937 3 месяца назад

I agree. I sold my 21 GT in 23 and purchased a 24 GT about a month ago. It's a great car, but so was my 21. Performance wise, I honestly can't tell the difference. It handles better but my 24 has the PP and my 21 didn't 🤷🏾‍♂️

@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

Yeah if the deal is good it makes sense otherwise coming from 2018+ GT you won't notice much difference in terms of performance.

@spacefreeze 4 месяца назад

I barely see 2024 mustangs around. Dealers are fully stocked on the lots. They are currently $7k to $10k off sticker.

@FrankFernandez-l8t 4 месяца назад

If you find a dealership discounting 2024 Mustang GT’s by $10,000, I would highly recommend you purchase a few of them. The maximum amount any Ford dealership can discount a base mustang GT is $5000. That is just to get it off their lot. They will hit you with $1000 dealer fee to make up the lost thousand dollars on that discount. There are no backend incentives right now for the dealership. If for any reason you find a dealership knocking off $10,000, please let me know immediately.

@michaelfrock2473 4 месяца назад

Are those the basic models or on the GT's as well.

@FrankFernandez-l8t 4 месяца назад

Please post names and locations of “verified” dealerships that are discounting mustang GT‘s by $10,000. If you’re gonna talk the talk, walk the walk. Names please

@strippingears9052 4 месяца назад

Seen only $3000 if your a ford employee..

@spacefreeze 4 месяца назад

@@michaelfrock2473 GT’s as well.

@ramcharger1978 4 месяца назад

The new Mustang may look good but the all digital cluster screen is something that I’m NOT interested in purchasing. I want the option of real gauges for a cluster. These screens have a tendency to wear out faster and Ford will stop making replacements at some point so I just do not want the headaches with that.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Not only that but it will be costly to repair. And since everything is controlled by it like for syncnscreen you can’t just not repair it or you’ll lose all the controls

@sdfth491 4 месяца назад

I got my 2024 last month, I had my eye on this particular car for months. The dealer was hurting to get rid of it and dropped it $7k below MSRP

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Was it Ourisman Ford?

@WayneStinson-m2u 2 месяца назад

Pay raises are not keeping up with inflation and hasn’t for 40 years

@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

Facts!

@bobbyjones2112 4 месяца назад

I don’t like the looks of the new one as much as the last one!

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Yeah looks are subjective. The new one has grown on me but still prefer S550

@Gtking616GamerX 4 месяца назад

Considering the change to the s650 wasn't really that big.. the inability to tune them is the nail in the coffin. Everything else is kinda wish wash, subject to change year to year, but until tuners can do their thing, these things will never be interesting.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah even without the fact there isn’t much change compared to s550 is what’s holding most buyers back. If they own s550 they aren’t tempted to upgrade. If they don’t then they can get s550 and save money and tune it too

@midnight347 Месяц назад

@@Red5ohs550 is far better for the money. I don't think they're gonna be tunable other than Ford approved stuff.

@PowerComboRS 3 месяца назад

i just bought a used 2019 ecoboost. The increase in price of these cars, increase of delivery fees, on top of everything else (more tax, fees, etc)... it just made sense for me to buy a used one and save $10k+. Had I financed the car I probably would've bought new because the interest rates I've seen from the dealership seem to be a lot better than what you could get on a used car (around 2.99% or maybe even lower). It's still a lot to pay for a new mustang though imo.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah great choice on getting the S550 as it is more or less the same car compared to S650 and of course you save ton of money getting the used one!

@Rskitalll 4 месяца назад

I have always wanted a Mustang and I liked the screens way better in this model. I got a good discount and didn’t go crazy with a premium. I am loving it so far. The strut brace makes a huge difference.

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Congrats on the new Mustang! Enjoy the car and ignore the haters. It's still a great car its just pricing is an issue.

@subaruamazon 2 месяца назад

01 gt conv. took me seven years to buy a stang. enjoy your car.

@JeepBully 4 месяца назад

I got a 22 CPO with 6k miles that was a garage queen with PP1, mag ride, recaro, active exhaust and more for 25k less than a 24 spec’d out the same. Is way too much money for a face change. And that newer front end doesn’t look as good. Gutted the charcoal filter stuff and add an H pipe and I’m making more power and torque that the 24. If you really want the look the headlights and tails are a direct swap

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Yeah used cpo are great deals given 2024 isn’t much of an upgrade and you save a lot of money. You can also tune it if you want to go crazy with hp

@mmf9765 2 месяца назад

Fully optioned premium gt’s are 60k-64k, the fully loaded convertible i optioned was 70k on the ford site 😮😮😮😮

@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

Yea 2025 saw even more of a price increase!

@subaruamazon 2 месяца назад

saw gt conv 68k

@RichGT350r 4 месяца назад

Nice review. I’ll keep my S550 GT350R Heritage. Thanks for sharing.

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

That car is truly special!! I wouldn’t trade it for any s650

@mardiecruz4850 3 месяца назад

No!, it's not the cost why it was not selling,. Their interior designer was in payroll of rival coompany. S650 dash sucks!, " tablets" was placed in dash like bill boards.😂. Place the s550 dash inside the s650 and it' s over. Can place a tablet with those graphics and tech in the middle and it' ll look fine. Cockpit is the problem of s650.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Lol 😂 unfortunately that’s all the cars now with tablet design and taking away all the buttons

@gixxer750r3 2 месяца назад

I agree with you. The TV screen dash violates every style trend for generations of Mustangs. Glad I bought a S550 just in time.

@midnight347 Месяц назад

There's alot more wrong than the cockpit but I agree.

@joseywales898 4 месяца назад

I've had both S550 and now S650 . The S650 is worth every cent it's that good, great driving car looks way better, price were about the same . ''last call'' for dodge and chevy so they lost some too them

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Interesting! Your experience seem to be complete opposite of mine lol. Enjoy the new Mustang!

@joseywales898 4 месяца назад

I have 18,000 miles on it. I am 6’3” And I can stretch my legs all the way out when driving.so that helps vs 550 I could not .I have the premium model with a355 rear gear fuel average is 22.2 per mile I ride alot of i95 in Florida witch is flat ground and I have no tract shocks witch helps with the ride. Rolling on 18”S with a little thicker tire for those long ride I make. I add a little E 85 and I'm good.

@israelvasquez9917 3 месяца назад

Idk, it kinda looks like a Camaro sometimes. I do like the The black horse. Looks bit different.

@joseywales898 3 месяца назад

Yes I agree on the looks, it ride a bit like the chevy, I think they were trying to pick up some camaro people also with having last call.

@shawnmcandrew6923 3 месяца назад

i agree. I had a 19 that got rear-ended by a semi. I just got an atlas blue base GT. It comes with alot more then i got on my mid optioned s550. Brembo 4 piston front brakes but they work great and much beefier 14 inch rotors front and rear and a larger caliper. Its got afaster steering rack and its more balanced then my 19 was from the factory. I also believe ford under rated these cars HP wise.

@timgenz2849 4 месяца назад

If your a Cars/Coffee , Car Show, or even a Track guy there is a spot for every year Mustang because all years are pretty cool so the upgrade aspect isn’t the greatest, I wouldn’t go from my Mach 1 HP to a Dark Horse because the money difference is too much so you really need people that don’t currently own a Mustang to buy a 2024 to get the sales up , I don’t know anyone getting rid of their current Mustang for a 2024

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Yeah going from M1 to DH doesn’t make sense since cars are very similar. If I had early 2015-2017 model then upgrade would make sense

@richharris9489 4 месяца назад

I have 1998 mustang gt and im keeping it

@darthleia2536 4 месяца назад

The tablet of dash ruined my waiting list for getting the s650 and next month I will search for a s550 instead and looks better in my opinion.

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Yeah used S550 is a much better deal for fraction of the cost compared to new s650

@darthleia2536 4 месяца назад

@Red5oh yes car prices are still crazy high Lol

@darknessislight3689 4 месяца назад

I think the previous generation looked better 🙂‍↔️ and prices is also a problem for a lot of people

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Prices and interest rates are a huge problem for new Mustang or I guess really any new car

@beamingsloth2732 4 дня назад

Now is an s650 worth it when the prices go down for end of year discounts? Say if you could get GT premium for $45,000 or less

@Red5oh 3 дня назад

That’s not bad especially if you want s650. S550 is a good deal if you can get a discount otherwise year end discounts are good on s650 I’ve seen up to $7k off

@jacobnunn7923 4 месяца назад

I got the s650 GT January 4th, paid under MSRP for it, have about 15,000 miles on it now. Initially just didn’t like the headlights, but they’ve grown on me. To me it’s the subtle touches that add up to the difference from the last gen. It feels like the right balance between modernization and that classic American v8. I really enjoy the screens but still got the warranty in case something happened to them so I definitely agree there should be some more actual buttons. 😂

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah it’s not a bad car but price is an issue. If you got a good deal then it makes sense. Were you coming from S550 GT?

@jacobnunn7923 3 месяца назад

@@Red5oh Yeah, and my buddy still has his ecoboost s550. I look online every now and then at prices and on average I got mine around 8-10,000 less than the others so far

@Unkown-1226 2 месяца назад

I was getting ready to upgrade my 2017 v6 mustang but the prices on the 2024 mustang gt 😢

@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

Looking at 2025 mustang prices the 2024 seems like a steal!

@subaruamazon 2 месяца назад

01 gt conv. how is the six?

@midnight347 Месяц назад

Just get you a 2017 5.0 and mod that. Way better than the new ones especially for the money. Way better potential.

@commanderbacon777 2 месяца назад

I dont like the headlights, taillights, and the black plastic they throw on the bumber when i get the dark horse version just looks like some guy from the ev section was in the wrong board room

@Red5oh Месяц назад

Dark horse styling actually looms pretty aggressive in person

@JayyAnuu5.0 2 месяца назад

Honestly at first I wanted a dark horse than I thought about the regular s650 GT and than eventually I started watching gt500 reviews for the years 2020-2022 and I felt as if that was a option I’d rather go for , I really like the s650 design and would absolutely love one but since a kid I dreamt of a gt500 and I’ve decided to go for that .. I was thinking of supercharging a s650 but decided I’ll just cop a 2021-2022 gt500 and tune it myself and go on from there just my take on it..

@Red5oh Месяц назад

Yeah gt500 is definitely a better option compared to all the others you mentioned. If you can afford I’d go for it! It will hold the value a lot better as well

@subaruamazon 2 месяца назад

01 gt conv auto. here. i bought this in 2022 and am happy. I say 24's for $47k with manual tranny. think u could snag one for 40k maybe? i ll stick with what i have. keeps me out of the poor house

@Red5oh Месяц назад

Yeah I’d wait it out and maybe a get used 2024 one. Or even get the S550

@subaruamazon Месяц назад

@@Red5oh next one 05-09 gt hard top and after that 11-14 gt manual. now if i get a sweet deal on auto, i will take it. this is years to come.

@austoncly3714 Месяц назад

Like the s650 in my opinion price and like the red mustang hear the face never really grew on me early s550 like mine I like, s650 in vapor blue is so sweet

@Red5oh Месяц назад

Yeah most people are ok with looks now but pricing is an issue especially 2025 that saw a big increase

@mmf9765 2 месяца назад

The mustang gt like the Nissan z and supra and m240i are niche cars that not alot of people will buy sadly. All great cars, just get the one you like the most !

@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

Yeah haven’t seen Nissan Z much but other 2 are solid options

@midnight347 Месяц назад

Dude mustang has always sold great until this turd came out smh. They aren't "niche cars'.

@CarStory 4 месяца назад

They have a ton of these on the lots in central Florida. They are priced way too high but most dealers are discounting them a few thousand and there is a finance incentive. Even with a discount they are very slow to sell. After owning a 2016 Mustang GT premium, I'm done with Mustang. I have a 2022 Camaro SS 1LE now and it cost less than the 2024 Mustang GT which is no where near as good.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah 1LE is in a league of its own. You need a dark horse or Mach 1 to compete but to your point prices are ridiculous on those trim levels

@johnfer98 2 месяца назад

if only the s650 interior had the s550 digital dash and the chrome switches

@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

Yeah I wish we still had toggle switches on S650

@jamestorregrossa1185 4 месяца назад

When you take the value component out of the mustang, accompanied by dealerships, not budging on price you’re going to get stagnant sales

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Yes! Mustang has always been a value proposition once you start charging near C8 corvette and M4 money, it will result in less sales for obvious reasons

@FlatPlaneCranky 4 месяца назад

The cost to upgrade from s550 to s650 doesn’t fit the minimal model changes made. I like the s650 a lot and the fact that ford continues the v8 makes me love the Mustang more and I want to support the v8 more than ever. Ford needs to reduce the prices 10-15% to help us help them and keep the v8 alive and well.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah that’s exactly. It’s a good car but diff it to justify when s550 exists with fraction of the price

@GREASEs550 4 месяца назад

RU-vidrs are showcasing all that can be done with the 24s and it is limited.

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Yeah until tuning is unlocked it will be like that

@panglingaow 4 месяца назад

Anyone know when the tuning will be unlocked

@DerekSouthland-rv1ze 4 месяца назад

@@panglingaowNever if people keep fucking buying them

@Michael-pi8ps 4 месяца назад

Most mustang buyers aren’t modding it

@midnight347 Месяц назад

@@Michael-pi8pss650 owners ain't because they can't lmao. Mustangs are made for modifying bro wtf r u on? Up until this overpriced turd anyways lol

@marcasswellbmd6922 4 месяца назад

It was the same thing when they went from 2017's to 18's too, the power went up slightly and so did the weight and the only real gain was they started putting the 10 speeds in them.. And people who know, Know the Gen 2's were better than the Gen 3's as far as looks and less headaches.. This is what the 2018 and up guy's do they minimize the 24's and the 17's to make themselves feel better about having a 20, 22, or 23..

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

But at least that was a refresh this is a new generation where the difference should’ve been big enough to justify the increased cost

@midnight347 Месяц назад

The gen 3 was faster. The manual was quicker than gen 2 stock the 10 speed was alot quicker. They had way more power than gen 2 on the dyno the new car doesn't show any more on the dyno than gen 3 you're making excuses for the trash s650 and failing miserably. The gen 2 is just as good modified as gen 3 but stock for stock it's slower and makes less power. That's a very bad comparison.

@midnight347 Месяц назад

Also the 18 was a refreshed s550 this is supposedly an all new mustang sure don't look all new to me. It's a huge disappointment.

@NoContext414 2 месяца назад

I would buy one new if the prices weren’t so high. Even with a few thousand off a 401a PP is hard pass.

@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

Yeah the price increase is about $8-10k for similarly spec S550

@MariusGlare 3 месяца назад

I have 2019GT and now in Europe 2024GT costs 50% more which is crazy not to mention that awful interior. I will only change my 2019GT to S650 if after face lift it will be better in that interior and backlights, also price should drop.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah prices are crazy on the new 2024s. I’m hoping a refresh will at least bring out changes to justify price hike

@rubbertracksolutionsinc.9059 3 месяца назад

I got my S650 in September of 2023. So how about people like me who ordered when order banks opened in March and got their cars early. How is that effecting some of the 1st quarter sales numbers? Many people ordered them early since they were new body style and year model.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

That’s a good point! Those aren’t factored in so I’d be curious to see what the yearly sales number look like once 2024 is being cycled out for 2025.

@jlynnbikes2206 3 месяца назад

You are absolutely right. A loaded 2024 S650 GT Premium was going to cost me $64,000 in August 2023. Instead I bought a 2023 Mach 1 for $57,000, about $7000 off sticker.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

That Mach 1 is a much better deal and will holds its value better as well

@peterprimes497 4 месяца назад

New C8 vettes are now listed for roughly 10% off here in new england area. Ford needs to atleast match 10% off to sell these things

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah especially with DH with mark ups around the same price. No wat in picking that over a c8

@markcostanzo5662 4 месяца назад

Dark horse in Australia can cost upto $140k with a few options ticked bit too much really. And we're still waiting for them to be released it's all pre orders for now

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Geez that’s expensive! Are dealers marking up as well?

@markcostanzo5662 3 месяца назад

@Red5oh nope standard price they start at $115k add options it goes up fast! Carbon wheels are $20k option. Also they're only releasing 1000 of them here in the first year though we still havnt seen them yet haha

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

@@markcostanzo5662 at least no mark ups! Here in the Us it’s crazy with all the mark ups on DH

@turbotheamericanstaffy 3 месяца назад

Aussie Ford dealers have been snorting crack for a long time. But die hard Ford fans keep drinking the kool aid

@RigoCortes 4 месяца назад

I have a 2015 S550 assembled on the first full day of production. I've taken that car autocrossing regularly and it's withstood the punishment. I'm keeping that car for a long, long time

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah mustangs generally are really reliable. Glad your car is holding up fine!

@subaruamazon 2 месяца назад

01 gt conv. those are great cars.

@midnight347 Месяц назад

Very smart that is far better than an s650. It isn't far behind stock and has way better potential.

@subaruamazon Месяц назад

what is under the hood?

@RigoCortes Месяц назад

@@subaruamazon A stock 5.0 Coyote. No engine mods.

@fortheloveofnoise 3 месяца назад

I think it was dumb not offering the manual on the S550 New Edge Ecoboost (the 2024 Mustang). Some people who want the honor of being able to buy a brand new Mustang, but can not afford the GT may be manual lovers....not offering it on the ecoboost even though it sold under 10% is still wrong and will alienate some fans and push some Mustang fans to get something like a GR86 instead.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yup 100% agree with you especially this generation is pretty similar to s550 so it’s not like it would’ve cost extra to add the manual on s550. It just allows the option to keep buyers in Mustang family rather going to competition

@DrKreiger 4 месяца назад

Cost is #1. Then interest rates. I personally think the new body style is ugly. Too angular and chunky. Almost like they started trying to copy the camaro. I much prefer the sleek lines of the outgoing style..

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

I don't mind the new body style but agree on pricing and interest rates that is keeping most buyers at bay

@michaelreitz6838 4 месяца назад

I own 3 Mustangs. A 2014 S197, 2023 S550, and a 2024 S650. The price increase is justified because of all the new technology in the 2024 and it isn't as much as people make it out to be. Roughly about $2800 increase for the base Ecoboost and GT. If a $2800 increase is keeping you from buying a car you probably can't afford it anyway. And the biggest reason the 2024s arent selling as wellis because the locked ECU. If you can't tune the car a lot of car enthusiasts don't want it because upgrading and tuning is part of the Mustang car culture.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Agreed on tuning. But for pricing it’s because wages haven’t kept up. Everything is gone up it’s not just the car price. The insurance and gas related to your car has gone up and of course your other household expenses. However wages are still going up 3-4% for most individuals

@1922BluePhoenix 2 месяца назад

55k for a mustang ?? HELL NO

@Red5oh Месяц назад

lol tell me about it! 2025 is even more

@aymanlockhartable 4 месяца назад

Differently seen more New Mustangs on the road compared to Nissan Z.

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Nissan Z doesn’t exist. It was an alternate reality when they announced the car 😂but so true!

@viziocamaro 4 месяца назад

40 to 50k for a weekend car is crazy. I had a 2024 lt1 Camaro I loved the car but I traded it in for a truck that I can do a lot more things with.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah disposable income is a lot limited these past few years with everything going up

@midnight347 Месяц назад

It don't have to be a weekend car it can be a daily if you want it to be. Not defending tbe s650 I don't even like them I'm just saying.

@jimsmith8797 4 месяца назад

And those screens are disgusting

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

I don’t mind the screens actually. I didn’t like it at first but now don’t mind them

@turbotheamericanstaffy 3 месяца назад

They kept the MT82 and 10R80. Both dog boxes. Both have had well documented failures. Should've went with Tremec manual in all V8 models standard, and a proven ZF or strong DCT auto. No point having 485hp mated to weak transmissions. Ford promised the world and delivered an atlas as usual.

@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

Yeah ZF and Tremec would've been better. 10 speed isn't terrible but agree MT82 needs to go

@hardhitter5099 4 месяца назад

I personally just like the s550s better but that’s just me. Also I think the dark horse looks super cool but I’m not paying 70-85k for an NA mustang making 500 which is more like 450 or so to the wheels just because it “looks cooler”. That’s outrageous. I got my c7 zo6 built car for about that I just can’t justify it in my head. I wish they threw a SC on the dark horse that would’ve made it worth it for me

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

There’s a lot of cars for $70k that I’d buy before dark horse despite being a Mustang fan. Heck 2020 gt500 msrp was $70k

@EJK36 2 месяца назад

I have a 2015...the 15-17 S550 is gorgeous IMHO and I hated the 2018 refresh plus digital gages and front/rear changes. With that in mind, do you think I would like the S650 when I saw it😂? I've been saying all along that this would happen, as Ford misguidedly copied Chevy's Gen 5 to Gen 6 Camaro strategy...which bombed badly. And in that case, despite the similar looks and price hike, they at least upgraded the performance by a tenfold unlike the S650. Ford is moronic for not looking at the Gen 6 Camaro as a cautionary tale...they did the same idiotic thing. My number one problem is the pricing/trim...number two is that the S650 interior is horrible, and the outside styling is just a hard no to me. It's a more aggressive version of my car...literally...but it's cartoony and without anything that stands out among all that black/dark gray plastic everywhere on it. I like the hockey stick making a comeback...but that's it. I'd buy an S650 if I didn't have my car...but I have a 50th Anniversary year vehicle that is approaching 10 years old that still looks better to me and simply gets me more excited than the Unreal Engine Mustang ever could with its cheesy gamer graphics and tablet interior... ...hard pass until Gen 8.

@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

Yeah I think a lot of people are in the same camp. Even if you like the interior and exterior. The car is pretty much same as S550 post refresh so it makes little sense to upgrade. Or if you're buying one then it makes sense to get s550 over s650 due to being similar cars but with lower price

@1922BluePhoenix 2 месяца назад

insurance is too much for something so non practical ..i went with a corolla ...need and want is 2 different things

@Red5oh Месяц назад

Yeah better to save money now and hopefully prices will come down

@ms3ben 4 месяца назад

Does the s650gt a10 actually feel any slower than a stock s550 18-23 gt a10 to you?

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

No having driven both they feel more or less the same

@normanbecker5096 4 месяца назад

I drove a standard today, they told me to drive it like it was mine to feel the power and hear that mustang sound. Went 1 mile with the salesman, my 2018 GT is still better.

@midnight347 Месяц назад

@normanbecker5096 The 18-20 gt is faster they went faster stock than s650s do and they can actually be modified. Ppl are crazy for buying these s650s the s550 is better by miles for the money spent.

@nathansummerville3972 3 месяца назад

If they replace the screens with gauges back in the dash and put tactile controls for AC and radio back I will buy one.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

I would like hvac controls to be physical but don’t mind the interior screens. It’s modern and has good customization

@nathansummerville3972 3 месяца назад

@@Red5oh I don’t mind a screen in the center of the dash above the AC controls, however, I want real guages setback into the dash behind the steering wheel. The current setup is just lazy and out of place.

@midnight347 Месяц назад

So you want this car without the ugly screens and actual ac buttons? Go buy a 15-17 s550 for half the price lol. It starts out slightly behind but has far more potential modified. They're essentially the same fn car.

@nathansummerville3972 Месяц назад

@@midnight347 I actually like the exterior better on the 2024. To be honest, I want the 23 interior, 24 exterior and a 7.3l Godzilla under the hood!😂

@davidtennien39 3 месяца назад

I had a GT on order and the pricing started hitting the price a BMW M2. I got the M2.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah bmw M2 is definitely a nicer for same price as mustang GT. It’s more special so will hold its value better

@patriot1751 4 месяца назад

Compared to the 15-23 it’s pretty darn ugly

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

I think they look good but I prefer 18-23 as well

@offroadboy333 2 месяца назад

The rear bumper is terrible I’m waiting for the update

@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

With these current 2025 prices idk if mustang can survive that long!

@McHenryFamily-qe9cu 4 месяца назад

You can get about $8500 off here in OKC on all Mustangs, tons of them sitting. You can almost get the whipple package here and pay right at MSRP for the mustang with the discounts.

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

What dealer is that? I need to know 👀

@JohnSmith-fi2ck 4 месяца назад

@@Red5oh looks like Metro Ford in OKC is running discounts of 6k plus, I pulled up a GT Premium with 8200 off

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

@@JohnSmith-fi2ck maybe in person. Their website barely has discounts

@ethanemp97 2 месяца назад

I just don't like how the 2024 looks. i want a 2023 race red with red interior

@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

That’s an awesome combination! Not biased at all lol.

@brettp5543 Месяц назад

Here is a hint ... They are having serious issues..! Have you surfed You Tube for Mustang owners complaints? The softwear running the gadgets n graphics are defective. Mechanically they are not doing well either. Some are not even making it home on the first day...LOOK at the Videos..!!!

@Red5oh 29 дней назад

Yeah that’s the downside of tech that everything is controlled by it and if something goes wrong then entire car has issues

@smurfeco2.358 4 месяца назад

I've only seen 2 650s since they came out . There 50k now . I bought my premium 2016 for 31k . And it's the same car

@jacobnunn7923 4 месяца назад

I have the only one in my tri county area so the cops definitely see me… but I paid 40k for mine, and they definitely are not the same car

@smurfeco2.358 4 месяца назад

@jacobnunn7923 well of course you own one. Your not gonna say it's a overpriced s550 . Same interior buttons same doors but with honda screens in the dash . Same gaps the s550 had . They obviously tweeked it . But they had to its a 10 years difference. Same thing with the dark horse. Used gt350 trans and parts and a gt500 block and up a little power . Nothing you couldn't do with a gen 3 gt

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah if i was to spec similar to my 2019 it’s $8k more which is crazy

@midnight347 Месяц назад

@jacobnunn7923 it rides on an s550 chassis the majority of the interior is almost identical outside the dash and tablets which most people including myself don't even like. It is literally a rehashed s550 with a locked ecu. Glad you feel good about your s550 2.0 lol ..keep lying to yourself.

@robertriegel5000 4 месяца назад

Dont foget the insane interest rates

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Yup! Typically around 6% for new cars which is crazy

@TTTmustang 4 месяца назад

Ford offers 1.9 for 48 months and 3.9 for 60.. they have one of the best if not the best apr available for any gasoline car

@boostjunkie27 4 месяца назад

Let's go Brandon!

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Lol 😂

@ordiebox9903 2 месяца назад

For me it was the dash. The tablet looks terrible.

@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

Yeah seems an afterthought like most car interiors these days

@fredmoucatel2058 4 месяца назад

Sales are down everywhere ! The economy sucks people don't have money especially 50 grand for a new sports car that gets 19 mpg combined !!!

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah not much disposable income going around to be spending on a sports car

@coyote5.046 4 месяца назад

I think the other issue is there’s no time yet for the s650 you can pretty much deck that car and run lows all day long

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Yeah once tuning is unlocked it will change things and hopefully better sales

@car-diologist 3 месяца назад

The S650 is way overpriced and overrated, as are all vehicles in this class with trucks and suv's as well. People are absolute idiots who are willing to pay $50k plus for any Ford, GM, Stellantic, Hyundai, Kia, BMW and the list goes on. Hate this world

@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

Yeah car prices have gone up significantly unfortunately

@davidallison976 3 месяца назад

Actually, they haven’t broken into the computer yet!! 18-23 can be tuned 100+ hp! Until they crack the computer. They will be down!

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yes tuning will help sales as most mustang buyers get the mustang for performance.

@JorgeMoren0 Месяц назад

Lines are ugly, they softened all the caracter lines. And it’s 95% what my S550 GT is and of course the generic interior with the ipad thing…

@Red5oh Месяц назад

Yeah I’m hoping they make the refresh a bit better

@MisterMikeTexas 4 месяца назад

Extreme inflation is probably one of several reasons. FJB!

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Lol

@scottamy6496 3 месяца назад

I was looking at the new 2024 Mustang GT and the new 2024 ND3 Mazda Miata…guess which one I bought? I am the proud owner of a 2024 Mazda Miata Club in Snowflake white pearl and it was easily over $10k cheaper than the base Mustang GT! Yes these two cars are quite different, but for the price I feel the Miata is a fantastic drivers car and for the money it’s the best fun and exiting car you can get and in my position and where I live I can easily daily drive the Miata and man is it so much pure fun to drive and I get well into the high 30’s mpg! I love the fact that Ford is the last holdout with the V8 and manual transmission, but the pricing and packaging just puts it out of the reach of so many people!

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

As thy way say Miata is always the answer! It’s a great little car with focus on driving dynamics. I always considered picking up an NA or NB to track it. Maybe I’ll eventually pull the trigger

@1194video 4 месяца назад

#1 reason…. Too expensive

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Bingo! It’s too much for a car that didn’t improve as much as

@1194video 4 месяца назад

@@Red5oh I like the 15-up but not the new ones rear end

@dad2817 2 месяца назад

First and obvious is the freaking economy and the hyperinflation

@Red5oh Месяц назад

Yeah price isn’t helping it at all! Way too expensive. Have you seen 2025 pricing? I don’t even know what sales number would look like with that kinda pricing on 2025s

@israelvasquez9917 3 месяца назад

For me is the price and sometimes the 2024 looks like a camero. Lol that’s my personal opinion haha

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah I don’t mine the looks but price is a big one

@ksich8142 3 месяца назад

The new one finally has a premium interior which the mustang has failed to offer…. A Corolla and Camry can come with leather powered seats NO the premium pack never felt like a luxurious car. It now has way more tech, a digital dash which is so 2017 … only took Ford 7 yrs, and now they got color changing ambient lighting

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah the interior is a huge upgrade in terms of tech, there's no denying that. Of course it comes at a good price, but I have been saying that even the base mustang is a great deal for tech

@highrzr 4 месяца назад

For me, it's way over priced. Too much plastic with a crappy looking interior.

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

Yeah price is a major contributor

@ChrisPBacon198 4 месяца назад

People's Rent is Constantly increasing

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Yes the economy has been one of the reasons too

@Contreras-z4e 4 месяца назад

And you can’t tune the 5.0 2024🚨

@Red5oh 4 месяца назад

Yes once tuning is uncooked it will get better

@HDR20 3 месяца назад

The price and the hideous computer screen as a dash will keep me from buying one

@Red5oh 3 месяца назад

The interior is actually not that bad

@aggee10 2 месяца назад

The s650 is overpriced plain and simple. Even the Darkhorse is overpriced. 40 more hp than a S550 doesn't equal 60k... But Ford's logic is 1. The added technology (no one cares about) and 2. There's no competition (the Mustang is the only gas-powered v8 muscle car in the market) is the reason for the prices. It's a bad strategy on Ford's part. There are plenty of better options for the price they're asking for.

@Red5oh 2 месяца назад

Yeah the s650 feels like a refresh than true new generation. Hoping the refresh in few years will bring exciting things

@aggee10 2 месяца назад

@Red5oh And a lower MSRP. I was so ready to trade my 18 gt in for one, until I saw the interior (in person) and price. The dealership was acting like I was obligated to get a new one. 🤣