Hermitcraft 10: Episode 8 - RANKING HERMITS 

And we still love your face

sorry buddy that's kinda weird

hey at least you get front row seats to one hell of a show. 😂

HE'S A FREAK

@@tociartWas funny

How nonchalant she is about it is so funny 🤣

@@mingrat8866 it's especially funny because I don't think it's even that weird. Everything she described is like, "So the weird thing she does is lounge on a couch, everything else just falls into place in the most convenient way." Like if the staircase is there, why not prop it there. The only extra weird thing is the cans, but in the end it's just a solid object, that is replaceable and was probably the first thing she found that worked. TL:DR I think Cleo does only like 1 weird thing, and everything else is just fit into place

​@@flameduelit's not that "weird" to do something like Cleo's setup when you're sitting down to play casually, but the fact that Cleo is a full time content creator who spends hours behind a screen is using such a haphazard setup is pretty surprising for sure

​@@flameduelyeah i can totally see the viewer ranking going the way it did no matter how much information the audience got. their setup is really just lounging

@@george43to01 and what makes it even worse is that she was a teacher for so many years. How on earth did she manage to do all that schoolwork without a desk ???

it's as old as me and that's scary

...yeah...

​@@Barrel550 same here 😭

So true! It's at sweet sixteen

Not older than me. Got that headset by 2 years

Best line of the entire video. Absolutely elite.

This is my fav moment from the entire episode🤣

15:30 timestamp

His only crime

SAME xD I actually had to stop the video for a bit to calm down and stop laughing so I wouldn't miss anything 😂

Mumbo's thumb doesn't know which way is up. It's contorted into such odd positions that there is no up or down. There is just thumb.

That is my head cannon from now on too

His favorite movie characters are definitely thumb thumbs.

​@@mitchib1440in the grim dark world that is mumbo's hand, there is only thumb

​@@Nicholas-ze5vv They're his least favorite because they remind him that he's a freak.

Absolutely. Etho's setup was ergonomics focused, it at least makes sense to prioritize comfort. Whereas mumbo has an ergonomically nightmarish control scheme.

...wait what finger are you supposed to use wasd with

I do that too, and also thumb shift AND I'm also left handed.

​@@datechboiring finger on the A, middle finger on W and S, index finger on D?

@@sosukelele yh, when i play mech arena or roblox, my middle goes down and up from w to s whilst the ring is on a and index on d. course thumb in on space and pinky on shift.

I feel like Empires 1 & 2 were more lore heavy than Hermitcraft, it doesn't even feel like hermitcraft itself is a server where they roleplay but more just pick a theme and stick with it.

​@@Thai8521Exactly! I love the empires peeps but i just dont like heavy roleplay smps thats why hermitcraft fits perfectly on my preference

I also like the name Foot-Pedal-Joe

@@jonistan9268 It's like the modern day descendant of Cotton-Eyed Joe

I wanna know what pedal he has though! That sounds SO useful for recording purposes!

@@Shenorai I would imagine any of the electric foot pedals that drummers use for their electronic kits

Secret drummer Joe

Xisuma!

Thank you for being normal and awesome alike!

No wayyyy 3rd :3

Fr! It was so funny!!

yes

Real XD

Agree

Well at least Etho has only ONE can, Cleo has a whole BUNCH of 'em

​@@huscarlkt2335 yeah, I already had her in the lower 4 for just the "crosslegged on the couch, with the laptop on my knees". The "I use a tray of cans as a mousepad, and my mic was hanging from a staircase banister behind me" are just extra weird.

@@DyslecticAttack Honestly, the mic stand isn’t weird. It’s a very practical setup considering what their station must look like. The banister is a nice, solid, elevated base from which to hang a mic. Better than trying to set up a tripod or c-stand sorta thing for it. Got nothing for the soda cans though. That’s weird.

@@iout nah, the mic set up is weird. It's functional, inventive, and practical, but it's also weird.

I have just now rebinded Q to U as I also sometimes throw my sword away when jump scared!

I have to do the same thing as gem. My pinkie physically cannot reach the ctrl key. It sucks when games don’t allow rebinding

Yeah I don’t blame gem at all, I too have small hands. And Keralis has good reason for his weirdness too because he’s left handed.

@@nicksavage567I do that not only when I’m jump scared, but pretty much all the time. I have lost count on how many times I’ve accidentally thrown away a good sword or pickaxe without noticing and lost it forever. I’m seriously considering doing the same thing now after watching this video.

Some keyboards have a hw switch to swap control and caps lock. Surprised so many of them didn't know about using a pedal for work/streaming. You could tell who cared about their setup.

Man i play the same as mumbo and i thought it was normal and it seems normal even now

Honestly so do i, but thats cuz im missing my midle finger, sooooooo....yeah :)

I’d like to argue that Ethos is TOO Etho-

I think Ren is actually onto something. He just moved his middle and index fingers 1 button right and got like 3 additional buttons to use without moving his hand + that's actually more comfortable than WASD. I might switch to that as well.

@@shap_po Yeah, you're right. And knowing Ren's raw skill, this worries me - new server king incoming??? (this is joke 😁)

As a thumbshifter myself, it is *not* break dancing on the keyboard. It is actually quite comfortable. The only problem is crouch jumping.

Love this comment!

I would like this but it's at 69 likes

​@@strombreakrnot anymore!

I quoted the exact same thing in a comment just now and found this I laughed so freaking hard at that. It had been building the whole episode and I just lost it at them all eagerly waiting for her hopefully normal explanation and then just starting it with the stairs was the funniest thing I have heard in a long time.

lololololololol

@@oz_jones Thanks broham

its somewhat due to Etho on a stream with Tango and Scar went around the server finding left handed people.

I love their quest to find the lefties in the server xD

@@saruwatarisa what's the current tally?

@@mel-burnes so far team lefties are: Keralis, Ren and Mumbo... not sure who said it but I believe it was Etho that said there's bound to be two or THREE lefties

Comfort and habit are hard to shift away from, even when you can afford to -- it's like Grian's 20-year-old headphones... I'm sure he can afford the latest and greatest, but he prefers that specific model because he's comfortable with them ^_^

When you find something the works the best for you and it becomes a habit, it's hard to break.

At 14:30 they ask if she has a desk, she said she didn’t used to but she does now, so she eventually did upgrade

@@olencone4005Not only that, but I *totally* get the fear of newer headphone models being downgrades. I feel like a lot of us have that feeling about something. Like, me, I'm very particular about my keyboard and my chair. Not any random gamer-chair will do just because it's made by some cool brand or because it has flashy colors. I've got a backup 'Oversteel' chair that looks super dope, but is as comfortable as a smooth rock, while my old black IKEA desk chair is the comfiest thing I've laid my butt on. And it's really sad when that model you liked gets discontinued. Like, dude, I wish I could order 5 of those IKEA chairs as backup somewhere 'just in case'. 🤣

Cleo also mentioned that she didn’t get a desk until after she moved into her new place. From what she’s said about her old apartment, it did seem like it was a smaller space, and having a desk would take up a ton of space. Also, people point out she has money from minecraft videos and had enough to make a vtuber model, but I feel like that’s very unfair to Cleo to say that. She has mentioned in the past that she was working as a teacher at the same time as being a content creator until somewhat recently. It wasn’t until the last couple of years that she’s gotten her new apartment and got her vtuber model, and has made content creation her only source of income. Just because someone is able to make money from content creation doesn’t mean they’re rich, and often time it’s not enough to live off of. If I’m being honest, I think her set up was actually really smart because it utilized her probably limited space well and was comfortable on top of that.

he still does this

They didn't mention this on the video, I think it may have bumped him and Joe at least a spot lower in weirdness

Impulse is so wholesome sometimes

You will not believe how many people either A: Don't realize we are left handed, or B: forget that we are left handed.

as a left-handed person, I knew i was about to hear something completely normal and the right handers were going to lose their minds

@@Stormfighter715 Doesn't help that a lot of left handed people conform to right-hand norms because stuff is always made with right-handedness in mind. By now I basically only write with my left hand, and even that is uncomfortable with ring-blocks and messy with fountain pens. I was so glad when we were allowed to use ballpoint pens in school.

@@Heresorikr being left handed is just being ambidextrous except writing I can basically do everything with both hands except write. Use a keyboard and mouse normally.

I mean I am left handed but Keyboard and Mouse is extremely ergonomic even as a lefty and what Keralis does is confusing to me

where can i see this clip?

Underrated part of the video lmao

really witty response

@@mrfahrenheit677frfr

i love joe lmao

The cleverness of Joe Hills!!!💖🌟💖

Timestamp?

@@jdotleaf4:19

etho actually said "that's almost older than you" referring to the headset grian's been using, meant as a joke lol bc it's def not

​​@@moonyy24683 yeah i think he was making fun of gem for being younger than him lol

That completely sent me while editing

Joe is a true delight.

This hahahahahaha

I feel like Mumbos replying more often to comments- nice that he is engaging with the community a bit

A must watch is a video from season 9 right before Christmas during the cross over. When he’s hang out with oli from the empires smp lol.

where was the video/context for the ranking?

@@whiteclaww4423twitter, I think

​@@whiteclaww4423I'd also like to know, somehow completely missed it

@@whiteclaww4423 Mumbo came back to Twitter in order to do this poll but it wasn't advertised anywhere on RU-vid

@@whiteclaww4423 Mumbo hosted a poll on twitter. It didn't mention the cans or the stairs.

It's also a little morbid, given how lefties used to literally be beaten and chained for writing with the "wrong" hand.

@@stan8479yeah I’m a lefty and as I was learning how to write, my mom would constantly switch my hands trying to make me right handed

I'm a lefty, and one that my parents gave a semi-hearted attempted at changing. The stark reality is that (barring a load of money for a wide range of unique products) lefties are just required to be somewhat ambidextrous in society. Growing up ('90s), it never even occurred to me that I could be using the mouse with my left hand because you just didn't see that as a possibility. As funny as what Mumbo said was, it's actually kinda accurate.

As a lefty I can confirm that it's true.

Scar was indeed correct😂

HEY! That podium didn't build itself!

No not even close

@@glueguntabletop I'm saying It's funny with out even trying to be this funny, Just like X's Professional Minecrafters

That's just Mumbo for ya

Huge amount of effort behind the scenes to schedule hermits who live in multiple time zones. Plus, he did a Twitter poll or something before the episode.

The headset thing just sounds like all my neurodivergent friends with sensory issues. “Yeah I can only wear this specific face mask so I got in contact with the manufacturer in India to buy 1000 of them so I never run out”

​@@NumbabuAdditionally, I don't think that it has anything to do with the way he plays Minecraft. It's just his headset, it's a general thing about him. The only thing I'd factor in for Minecraft-weirdness is the keybinds he mentioned and they're not that strange. Also at this point I think it's weird to have drop item on Q and sprint on Ctrl because both are super inconveniently placed. I haven't played Minecraft for quite some time myself but I'd place sprint on CapsLock too I think. The only annoying thing about that it's the CapsLock key and not a key that doesn't do anything. A friend of mine thought this to be a problem too, so he put sneaking on the still unused F (this was before dual-wielding) so he could put sprinting on Shift. I don't know which button he uses to swap hands now, but I do know that his in-game character is left-handed (he isn't in real life), I think his reasoning was that this makes the game easier to see for a right-eye-dominant person. I tried this once too, really weirded me out, turns out I'm left-eye-dominant.

@Numbabu It's also pretty standard for gamers with limited funds to use older, cheaper equipment instead of constantly upgrading. I mean, I still use a pair of the original SkullCandy Hesh wired headphones from nearly 15 years ago that still work fine, while three different replacement models have broken down after just a few months of use -- it really doesn't seem strange to me to be using outmoded equipment when it works fine, and having backups seems reasonable when the items aren't made anymore.

@@NitrinoxusSmart! I used to use cheap skullcandy wireless headphones, but I got marginally more expensive ones after I realized I would need to replace those all the time. The increase in quality is probably still worth it even if the lifespan is the same and I can totally see myself replacing these with an identical pair XD

​@Numbabu What's _mad_ is, one of the replacement headphones was the _new_ version of the SC Hesh headset I have, the one they started selling when they discontinued the original Hesh 1.0. Lasted a little over four months before the casing connecting the left earphone to the headband snapped clean through. The other two were pricey, studio-grade wireless ANC headphones, and neither lasted three months -- one cracked open, the other just lost all audio in one side. So either there's a range of newer models that aren't built to the same standards as a decade ago, or the manufacturers _really_ don't expect you to use their products every day.

He's tall tho

His new ep included a real life photo

@@ionmeth2031 Yeah I saw, the chair and desk position didn't look very strange there. If anything, it looked like it might be a pretty low desk. Maybe I misunderstood what he meant.

As a short person where the desk height naturally put my elbow and entire forearm straight on the desk, it also naturally put my keyboard and mouse exactly where etho describe his simply because ergonomically it is the most comfortable for my wrist for a prolonged use 😂 so honestly etho isnt that weird to me but mumbo, who sacrifice his thumb sounds weirder

Honestly the more I think about Etho's setup it kinda seems comfy and something I may try out due to my neck pain

What happened?

@@delvinmichaels7987 I could try to explain, but it's probably faster to just watch his videos this season if you want to understand his slide into madness.

@@delvinmichaels7987 two words. "Mending Book"

@@namikkouThat’s not exactly weird. He was trying to get the book through one method only. He was self limiting. This is no different than trying to get every achievement. It’s simply a goal.

@@Bob_Smith19Yeah, but he was so over odds it is insane.

“Well the staircase behind me” caught me off guard. It was hilarious.

RIGHT? LIKE SHE HAS A WHOLEPODCAST MIC RIG STRAPPED TO THE STAIRCASE SO SHE CAN PLAY COMFY 😂 what an icon lmao

I came to hermitcraft on season 8 because I was bored at the time and knew little about it and saw that it was a new season and i gave it a try, now i'm watching more and more hermit (especially while i'm eating) and it leaded me to watch some of theirs other videos too... So I think Mumbo interacting in some weird way with the other is making me want to watch their prospective (or then there are pranks happening to see the reaction) and I tend to linger on their channel a little longer xD (currently behind in Stress' episodes) So I hope the futur is full of other weird/funny interactions xD

@@DeadsTBD that's kinda how we all fall into the hermitcraft hole. We find one hermit then they interact with someone, we like them so we watch their episodes and series and youllend up watching 27 hermits in no time 😂

@@crunchevo8974 haha that's also how i ended up from watching another youtuber to having a steamer that put the VOD on RU-vid and now having a video playing at all time as they stream quite a lot (still skip some content as its not for me)

Same. I also play this a lot to help sleep after work.

In fairness, audio products that are very good tend to age extremely well, it sounds like they wear out rather quickly(once a year.) Its not like clothes that he might grow out of.

in all fairness, the weirdest thing is justifiable. comfort

A

A

I see nothing weird with that tbh, if they're comfy why order anything else? It's like Tom Scott's batch of red t-shirts he orders

Correction: gem has sprint on caps lock. Also with cleo I think she was saying her couch is under the staircase and so her mic hangs down from the stairs above her

I'm assuming Cleo has a folding mic arm with a clamp, and has it clamped to the stairs behind her. At least that's how I interpreted that. (I'm almost positive she said, "The staircase is behind me," at 21:48.) It actually makes a lot of sense to have the mic clamped to something you won't shake while playing.

My order: NOT WEIRD AT ALL AND BORDERING ON GENIUS, EVEN - Joe: That's just genius. Like, seriously. I think I'm gonna try to get something like a footpedal or streamdeck now. It just sounds so convenient. - Grian: When he said those words, I died a little inside at the fact I didn't buy myself a whole crate of Roccat Kova mice. I loved that mouse to death and I will never forgive Roccat for discontinuing it. Though I should move on at this point. The accident really wasn't my fault. - False: I for Inventory is my old MMO bind. It's definitely not an uncommon MMO bind, because you need the space around WASD (or ctrl/shift/alt/zxc if you're a Maplestory player). That space is at a premium and it's hard to break that old habit. - Gem: In the quest for ergonomics, forgivable. Small hands suck. - Keralis: Yeah, he really is just left handed. That's still a pretty bad setup, man. He should try using the num pad. - Impulse: Very specific gamer setup. Forgivable. Would destroy anyone else who tried to play on his PC though. - Cleo: Just seems like she had a period where she couldn't get a desk/normal PC setup and just never got out of it. Please break the habit. - Mumbo: Atrocity. Other people exist with big hands and they do it the normal person way. - Rendog: If his binds were something like RDFG instead of WASD, forgivable. There's some MMO nuts out there who do those binds. What he does, unforgivable. - Etho: What THE WORST EVER Everyone Cleo and below, I can see why they do the things they do. Mumbo and up are the only ones that are properly weird.

​@META_mahn I don't even have big hands but thumb shifting is basically the only thing on this list that I do

I do the impulse sprint

Season 4: Logfellas (Xisuma & Rendog) Court Trial

Perfect

Covering Doc's hole (or Doc's reaction) has a good argument

What even happened before season 6 besides 15 new members coming and going per season because they never posted a video? Lol.

​@@mattyiceeThat really only applies to season 1 and 2

I do the same thing it’s good

Well he’s a hermit… hermit are not that sain…😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

He is a redstoner. What sanity 😂

Nah, it makes perfect sense if you have had carpal tunnel. Your arm gets burning pain after using a mouse too much so if you can reduce that discomfort even a little bit it's a life saver

He plays Minecraft, of course he isn’t sane 💀

While also thinking that you've done nothing wrong yourself

@@jakko_ exactly, it really makes you look inwards.

Joe: same Cleo: I also currently play from my couch. Laptop on my knees and use my mouse (without a mousepad, and the mouse is an ergonomic one so my hand is basically on it's side) on the arm Impulse and skizz was strange until I found out it was because they used to play helicopter games or something and got used to those controls Keralis: makes sense because he's left handed Ren: kinda weird but also makes sense and if I tried it, I'd probably get used to it All the other key remapping is fine, I remapped a lot of my keys, including the use and attack which I changed to keys for a while and only recently changed them back to mouse clicks. Oh, and I've swapped sprint and crouch so sprint is shift and crouch is cntl. I would have used caps lock for sprint if I could disable caps lock, Mumbo: I still don't really get why he started doing that Etho: I don't know what's going on (although I do appreciate wanting to keep the elbows on the desk. I try to do that when I do use a desk, it is very comfortable)

​@@lisahenry20Yeah, inverted controls just makes sense if you come from flight sims. I use the _Do A Barrel Roll_ mod and have pitch inverted. I also have seen WASD macro pads explicitly for lefties and people with big hands, so literally no judgement there.

You use a TRACKBALL????

Cleo was alright until the mic hanging from the stairs came in the picture :p

​@@MaidenOfAirKensington Expert. *Massive* ball. Not only can I do super precise movements, but I can spin the ball to do a 360. Plus: no need to worry about even surfaces, mousepads or anything like that.

Nah i get it, for the longest time, i use to play using the arrow-keys instead of WASD. I an also left handed, i never understood

Yeah I seldom laugh out loud on RU-vid vids but gosh darnit they got me 🤣

Also no desk. You do what you can.

I use an old hoodie folded up underneath my elbows. So comfortable.

Me too, I play sitting in a big armchair, no desk it's very comfy

Yeah, Cleo's setup sounds pretty comfy -- a friend of mine uses a super-soft LazyBoy recliner as his gaming chair and does something similar. I tried it once, and yeah, I can totally see gaming like that... well, till I fall asleep mid-game cause it's so comfy haha! ^_^

There's a story of someone using a left pedal to push to talk, going to talk to someone whilst driving and axcellerating and crashing their car.

Still weirder than just being left handed.

Honestly Joe has the right idea here, especially using foot pedals for OBS controls, it makes sense

@@andrewwebb917 the right thing to do is just never, ever use your computer pedals on the right foot. Ideally 😂

So you're saying you'll die on Joe's Hill

100% weird

the only weird thing about impulse is that it carries over to mouse controls, I have inverted controls only for controllers

@@DragN_H3art him and skizz used to be big into CoD back in the day (on pc i think) and the helicopter controls were inverted and that just carried over to everything else. Its all explained in one of their early podcast episodes

I think having a foot pedal to sprint (like you're accelerating a car) is super clever. It would take some time getting used to, but it would be good for your legs too!

I unironically wish we would start incorporating feet into our setups. It kind of feels like Joe is just 10-20 years too early.

Exactly 😭😭😭

this! i think because they're content creators and play with (usually, mumbo doesn't count lol) pc's, they don't realize the majority of people who DO play for fun play on laptops :p i've been playing like cleo since i was in elementary - on the couch or in bed, using a book or lapboard for my mouse. i still do! i actually bought a gaming laptop solely so i could move around w it for comfort (:

But most of us don't play as much as they do. It compares more to a work setup so it is really weird. Imagine working 8 hours a day sitting on the couch with your keyboard on your knees and your mouse on a bunch of cans.

I think most people missed the part where she sits cross-legged with the keyboard on top.

Not to like shame yall but, isn’t a desk like maybe 50 dollars? And it’s good for your back and stuff

lowkey funny

How is that possible? Wasnt he taught to hold the brake down while stopping at a light? Thought that was normal.

@@tobiasbayer4866holding the brake down is actually wrong, you should apply the handbrake as to not dazzle drivers with your brake lights or hold it with the clutch if you won’t be waiting long and on a small hill

@@Insertnamehere662 How bright are your brake lights? Idk I was taught to do it that way in driving school and everyone I see at a red light has their brake lights, so it cant be that wrong. Also handbrakes are only for inclines but I guess you could also do it additonaly. But yes, putting it in neutral while stopped is obviously the safest.

@@tobiasbayer4866 But 99% of people are driving automatics nowadays, which do put you in neutral when you're stopped anyways.

"Like he swallowed a megaphone from an East German train station" is perhaps the best metaphor I've ever heard

I don't think he uses the mic on his headset when recording. And if he does, that's even weirder. Cause external mics are really useful.

I'd have thought he would have had a separate mic like on a boom stand, he just has old headphones for comfort reasons

@@sugeypopplanetI think he does, going by the amount of times we've heard him move away from the mic while laughing

@@sugeypopplanet when Grian finally fished up his first mending book, he did sound like he was able to hop away from his mic without taking it off

yes! i am all the same. my partner needed a few years to understand but got there :D

genuinely yeah, as an autistic person with sensory issues i understand completely

Its crazy cause even his headset's older than alot of Grian's viewers haha

As an autistic person, I completely get his viewpoint. If I wasn’t forced to change stuff I would never change anything good.

i need a pic of that, just to get an idea.

I do both of those things, my thumb is just generally the most comfortable thing to press shift

Impulses result surprised me, almost all games have an "invert mouse" setting. If it's built in the game and a click away it's not weird.

@@ImDepressedLol Muscle memory takes over a lot. I can switch between controls fairly easily but after a while its extremely difficult lol

@@Sawyernilsson it's comfy for me too

If your shifting with your thumb is because of an injury that formed a habit then that makes sense

This was the line of the season so far.

that and "thats what the mute pedal is for"

Southpaws ftw

You are breaking the car Samir, we will not finish.

@@arianheight750 Shaddap. Don't tell me how to drive.

doing the lords work!

thank you time stamp andy

Never underestimate joe ❤

From what little we heard about the mic setup, I'd imagine her couch back is against the side of the staircase, and the mic is strapped to the staircase railing. Probably with some kind of rod thing so that the mic is in front of her mouth and can be rotated out of the way. As for the entire setup, she said she doesn't have a desk. This makes me think that she actually plays on a large TV that's across the room, with possibly another smaller screen somewhere closer. So it doesn't need to be crammed, in the middle of the room, or a boom mic.

For real that sounds comfortable to me. Depending on what kind of chair you have at a desk it sounds like it would be way better

Couches are designed for lounging/comfort. You can change positions naturally over hours without the strains building up in any specific muscle group or joints; normal, cross-legged at knees or ankles, feet elevated or reclined (my couch has two recliners, one at either end), leaning left or right with legs akimbo, or even laying on your back or side horizontally. All super comfy. Don't believe big desk's marketing/propaganda.

I know 3 people (myself included) who would rather play on a couch or bed then at a desk. Although tbf the desk options suck at college

Lapboard keyboard and mouse pad in my recliner. With a backup wooden mouse pad base that sits on the arm of the chair if I need to swap positions.

No, it sounds horrible😭😭?! Wouldn't you have to balance the keyboard on your crisscrossed knees, is that even stable?? And where exacting is her sodacan mouse area! Like, to the side of her keyboard??? What? And the whole mic and stairs? what is happening there??

Honestly not having to use your hand at all to sprint is clever.

It feels perfectly natural for him though imo.

Honestly! As an autistic, if I knew something I use and really like is being changed or discontinued, I would definitely buy a whole bunch of it to last me 😭 So I really relate. Doesn’t stop a whole box of headsets from being wired tho lol