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Hertz Sued for Not Turning Over Alibi Receipt - Ep. 7.350 

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After the man spent almost 5 years in jail, the receipt proved he couldn't have done it.
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@Vytor01
@Vytor01 3 года назад
This man's lawyers were stupid and he should be suing them! If he used a Credit Card, the CC company should also have a record of him using it. Every transaction is a mini loan. You have a start of that loan and payments on it until its paid off. You payment is broken up and a little is paid on each mini loan.
@stevelehto
@stevelehto 3 года назад
The credit card does not record the minute THE CAR WAS RENTED. It shows the day when the card was processed. Go check your own statements. How many time stamps (down to the minute) do they show?
@ytcommentor
@ytcommentor 3 года назад
I bet the bank has the exact timestamp even if it doesn't appear where the customer can see it.
@stevelehto
@stevelehto 3 года назад
The bank wasn't there. It would be hearsay coming from them.
@Donkypunchrr
@Donkypunchrr 3 года назад
I think what steve meant to say is that the recorded transaction time with the credit card company doesn't exactly prove what time the card was swiped, just what time the transaction actually went through on their end. It takes time for the processing to go through before the CC company has record of it. Hertz would have an exact time stamp of the physical card swipe in their system. I would bet the CC company records show the time stamp late enough that the crime could still be committed in time to make it to hertz.
@tarakhenight6185
@tarakhenight6185 3 года назад
@@ytcommentor Your wrong, credit card transactions are date stamped but not time stamped except at the point of purchase. Which, in this case, was Hertz.
@_Half-A-Beas.T333
@_Half-A-Beas.T333 3 года назад
And now there's a murder case that hasn't been actively pursued for 5 years.
@russlehman2070
@russlehman2070 3 года назад
Yes. It's now very likely that the actual murderer will not be convicted, or even charged.
@phlodel
@phlodel 3 года назад
That's OK with the injustice system. Criminal investigations are a waste of resources and interfere with the real business of revenue harvesting.
@Gifted-Mister
@Gifted-Mister 3 года назад
@@russlehman2070 Killer is probably already locked up for something else
@robertm3951
@robertm3951 3 года назад
@@Gifted-Mister Or out here still killing people.
@thenormalyears
@thenormalyears 2 года назад
@@Gifted-Mister damn you live in a nice fantasy land
@shekharmoona544
@shekharmoona544 3 года назад
How is Hertz not criminally liable at this point?
@shanegillespie6014
@shanegillespie6014 3 года назад
And the court, too!
@clarkclarke
@clarkclarke 3 года назад
Well In guess it's easy when it's not you or one of your family members right????
@KayFabe87
@KayFabe87 3 года назад
Hertz has no criminal liability at all. You can argue that Hertz could easily have provided the receipt, but they are not criminally liable in any way. The plaintiff’s attorney will attempt to argue that Hertz has some civil liability and this will be decided by a judge or jury. Hertz has no more criminal liability than a witness who refuses to testify would have. Additionally; it is not up to the defense to prove innocence. It is up to the prosecution to prove guilt. We don’t know what other evidence they presented at the trial, or how competent the defendant’s legal counsel was. There is also no indication that the presentation of the receipt would have been the difference between a guilty verdict and an acquittal. The receipt only proves evidence that the credit card was used. It doesn’t prove who used it.
@rocketfamilykml2528
@rocketfamilykml2528 3 года назад
@@KayFabe87 they defied multiple court orders to produce or show reason why they cannot produce said documents. They ignored the courts order thus they, the courts and his original attorneys all hold culpability in this.
@paulj4178
@paulj4178 3 года назад
@@KayFabe87 is love to see you try and tent a car without matching photo id for the payment card, then or now.
@p.doetsch6209
@p.doetsch6209 3 года назад
If a cop will perjure himself in front of an attorney, imagine what kind of criminality he has committed throughout his " civil service".
@yinyangja
@yinyangja 3 года назад
And he knows the judge/jury will believe his lies. Like he said, he's a cop.
@p.doetsch6209
@p.doetsch6209 3 года назад
@@yinyangja That's why they call it testilying.
@3rdFloorblog
@3rdFloorblog 3 года назад
Another example of some of the fine folks wearing badges. Worst part is that these jerks make others look bad, even if exemplary service record.
@crjcrj8443
@crjcrj8443 2 года назад
Do you realize he told Steve that, doesn’t mean he was going to do it. He wasn’t going to show up period. He would take the lumps with the judge if it really came to it but it motivated Steve to get the case resolved or get the case adjourned. Vacations for cops are usually scheduled months or even a year in advance. Hence why he was going on vacation despite Steve’s case. Their vacation does not get automatically rescheduled because of a BS civil court case. Nor does the cop get the money back he spent on tickets , hotels . Nor does help with their domestic situation when they tell their spouse Steve’s BS case canceled their vacation .
@youtubehatesfreedom1870
@youtubehatesfreedom1870 2 года назад
@@jenniferv618 not all just the vast majority
@steveniemyer9288
@steveniemyer9288 3 года назад
The prosecutor didn’t drop the charges for ten months after the receipt was produced. They tried to make a case for ten months after the receipt was produced and could not do it.
@robertm3951
@robertm3951 3 года назад
That is what they do. They obviously had enough other evidence to convict him without the receipt.
@stijnvandamme76
@stijnvandamme76 2 года назад
@@robertm3951 How good is the evidence if it proves nothing against a simple receipt?
@robertm3951
@robertm3951 2 года назад
@@stijnvandamme76 Juries tend to believe police "experts". Being innocent is not enough.
@pcfrog
@pcfrog 2 года назад
This might be one of those situations where they wanted him to be guilty so they refute anything other than what they want.
@GARDENER42
@GARDENER42 2 года назад
@@robertm3951 Utter, fact free drivel, as if they did, they'd have continued with the retrial.
@tayzonday
@tayzonday 3 года назад
If you or I failed to provide subpoenaed records, it would not take the judge three years to lock us up for contempt. It Hertz to see the double-standard.
@lizcollinson2692
@lizcollinson2692 3 года назад
😁 keep Dad Jokes coming
@dumbassdriversofdenver9113
@dumbassdriversofdenver9113 3 года назад
How do you lock up a company?
@lizcollinson2692
@lizcollinson2692 3 года назад
@@dumbassdriversofdenver9113 he's seeing them its us who get locked up, but it would have been interesting if the judge had locked up the management of that legal team.
@muninrob
@muninrob 3 года назад
@@dumbassdriversofdenver9113 Lock up the majority shareholder(s) - I bet the board suddenly either cares about following the law (or gets replaced even more suddenly) Distributed profits = distributed responsibility.
@erica1957
@erica1957 3 года назад
@@dumbassdriversofdenver9113 hold their attorney in contempt and lock him 9
@blaakrose
@blaakrose 3 года назад
The people at hertz who were responsible for not releasing the receipt should be made to sit in prison for the amount of time they caused this man to sit on prison. This would be justice.
@Shiro_Amada
@Shiro_Amada 3 года назад
An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
@wulfmans
@wulfmans 3 года назад
@@Shiro_Amada Justice is supposed to be blind.
@paulfrank8738
@paulfrank8738 3 года назад
Did you know that an eye for an eye is the concept that the punishment should match the crime? Prior to the eye for an eye concept punishment was much, much more harsh. Cut off a hand for taking an apple; kill a whole family for single murder, etc.
@Shiro_Amada
@Shiro_Amada 3 года назад
@@paulfrank8738 And much like how it replaced barbarism worse then it, we have long ago replaced it's barbarism with something better. So on and so forth untill we get to now. It's not 1280 any more.
@paulfrank8738
@paulfrank8738 3 года назад
​@@Shiro_Amada I agree with you in the sense that I personally think that literally taking someones eye for an eye is an excessive (barbaric) punishment. But, I do believe in the concept of having punishments determined based on the crime, which is still the (non-literal) "eye for an eye" concept. In this specific case, it seems to me that the actual crime would be related to not complying with the subpoenas and court orders. In my opinion, 5 years in jail would be an excessive punishment for that crime. As far as the civil lawsuit goes, I understand that to be more about compensation for damages caused by someone's misdeeds. That's a totally different concept. It will be interesting to hear what the parties come up with in this case.
@lisagrafton2529
@lisagrafton2529 3 года назад
If that cop was so willing to lie about that, think about the many cases he's testified in and possibly lied about what happened. I hope you filed a complaint with his supervisor. They needed to know that they have an officer who is willing to lie to get what he wants!
@kaliban4758
@kaliban4758 3 года назад
when a cop lies in court it is never a lie, it is"the cop was mistaken"
@kirkthiets2771
@kirkthiets2771 3 года назад
If I spent almost 5 years in jail and I was not guilty, every single person in a position of power at Hertz should fear for their lives. I'd burn it down.
@troyevitt2437
@troyevitt2437 3 года назад
Yep. They should have realized they were putting the gun to their own head thinking they didn't have to participate in that court case.
@yinyangja
@yinyangja 3 года назад
At the least there would be a lot of broken windshields.
@robertm3951
@robertm3951 3 года назад
Then you would go directly back to jail
@mr.robinson1982
@mr.robinson1982 2 года назад
If you take revenge on someone, you need to wait @ least 5 years. When they go looking for people who could have done this, you won't even be on the radar....REVENGE IS A DISH BEST SERVED COLD.
@kirkthiets2771
@kirkthiets2771 2 года назад
@@mr.robinson1982 Bah... Shoot em from 1,000 yards away with a 5.56 NATO. You can be packed away and driving comfortably with a sound mind before anyone hears the report of a firearm being discharged.
@johngrisum
@johngrisum 3 года назад
They will find a 1cm microscratch on a bumper that you return to them 2 minutes earlier but they take 7 years to produce a receipt they were required to produce by a court order.
@DarthLoki182
@DarthLoki182 3 года назад
They tried to bill me for damage I didn't do, and said I never told them the car had damage. I had saved the copy of the notes I wrote about the damge. That doesn't hold a candle to this poor guy, of course, just point damn evil company. They will lie about anything
@tyree9055
@tyree9055 3 года назад
Enterprise is no better... I stopped into one of their stores to rent a truck to haul asphalt shingles to the dump with. I told them I wanted one with a bedliner because the shingles might scratch their paint job. They didn't have one but said it was okay... I rented it and upon returning it, the same Enterprise manager from before now wanted me to sign a damages claim so they could charge my credit card for the damages... I told him I'm not signing anything, left, and went straight to my insurance company. My insurance company told me that by not signing their form that I made their job easier and they dealt with it. My insurance rates didn't change but when I asked them about it later, I was told that Enterprise tacked on every type of damage except the kitchen sink! 🤣
@molonlabe9602
@molonlabe9602 3 года назад
I avoid renting if at all possible. Where I'm living, scooters are used a lot. To avoid the usual scams/leaving my passport with the scooter rental company, I take my own scooter in the back of my pick up. 5-10 minutes to load or unload...less time than actually renting and then no hassles with the rental companies, even if I cause damage...it's my own scooter.
@johnll1693
@johnll1693 3 года назад
@@tyree9055 Enterprise did something similar to me. Told me anything under the size of a dollar bill for scratches and under the size of a quarter for dings did not matter. When returning the vehicle, they find a few small scratches on the rear underside of the bumper. Not fresh. Old. Less than a dollar bill. I took photos and told them to f off! Nothing ever happened.
@tyree9055
@tyree9055 3 года назад
@@johnll1693 Yeah, my advice is to take before & after photos whenever you rent something from them. I do the same thing now for automotive work as well (except I make sure to get multiple pictures of the engine compartment and the undercarriage too).
@olddognewtricks9694
@olddognewtricks9694 3 года назад
The most scary thing is: If the records would have been purged like the lady said was possible due to age. This man would have spent the rest of his life in prison being innocent! All because they dragged their feet and violated the law.
@sczygiel
@sczygiel 3 года назад
The bank should also have that record. As well as the CC company. Strange case...
@PsRohrbaugh
@PsRohrbaugh 3 года назад
@@sczygiel those records might not include the exact time of the card swipe. This was a situation where minutes mattered. I run a small business, and download credit card transactions into quickbooks. I've had an employee go on a work trip, make purchases, and when I'm reviewing the statement the expenses are dated several DAYS after the employee returned from their trip. I have no idea why. All I know is that I'm going through a stack of receipts to see if the $18 charge at "Mike's Sub Shop" from 3 days after the employee got back matches a receipt in the pile, or is fraudulent activity.
@lq7777
@lq7777 3 года назад
That happened to a man down here some years back. The only difference was the prosecution didn’t tell him about a 911 call (from a prepaid cell) until it was too late to identify the caller because the call records had been deleted.
@clmhK5
@clmhK5 3 года назад
I don't think it's a good idea for companies like that to get rid of their receipts in less than five years. An IRS audit can go 6 years back.
@TheRealScooterGuy
@TheRealScooterGuy 2 года назад
@@PsRohrbaugh -- What you are seeing is the date and time the batch was processed. For many banks, it is M-F excluding holidays. (This relates to the old days when these things were all processed by hand by employees who worked "bankers" hours.) Despite other opinions, the credit card company has a record of the exact moment the card was swiped or the chip read or the information was otherwise transmitted to the financial institution. The reason the car rental transaction mattered so much was because the credit card company records don't prove WHO used the card, but the car rental company would have verified the identification of the person renting the vehicle -- this is much stronger alibi evidence.
@markc2643
@markc2643 3 года назад
Moral of the story: Always keep your receipts! My receipt story: Sheetz has a policy now to not print a receipt unless you ask for one. About a month ago, I went to Sheetz and bought several things that added up to $30+. I was charged $40+. As I was walking out, It stuck in my mind that the total seemed too high, so I put on my reading glasses and read the receipt (which I had to ask for) and it had a $10 charge for pre-paid gas on pump 11. I went back and talked to the manager and got my money back. She passed it off a a probable mistake. I think I accidentally discovered a new scam that store employees at gas stations can pull on you when they routinely don't give receipts. Add $5 or $10 in pre-paid gas to a transaction, and have your friend or family member put that free gas in their car when you leave. ALWAYS ask for a receipt and check it!
@brad885
@brad885 3 года назад
Very common one at gas stations and fast food places.
@amcconnell6730
@amcconnell6730 3 года назад
9:30 "Steve, why didn't you tape that conversation?" ... Laywer finds out that you should ALWAYS film your interactions with the police.
@cobracommander9138
@cobracommander9138 2 года назад
@@Milesco Always record the police because they will just lie and they are relying on who are you going to believe a police officer or someone else,
@reformcongress
@reformcongress 2 года назад
If I was Steve I would have pulled out my phone, put the subpoena up in front of the cop and take a picture. Then the cop could be charged with contempt at the very least for perjury.
@crataegus125
@crataegus125 2 года назад
@@reformcongress You would piss off a crooked cop? I admire your courage.
@jsivco3sivco785
@jsivco3sivco785 2 года назад
Because he had neither a video tape camera nor a film movie camera with him! However, possibly he carried a cell phone that can record videos digitally. He should have had that handy.
@daytona1445
@daytona1445 3 года назад
In a case like this where a company ignores a court order the court should issue a warrant for the CEO, I guarantee that will instantly get the company to comply.
@chasingsunsets87
@chasingsunsets87 3 года назад
I heard the CEO likes to watch horse races in Canada...
@joek0617
@joek0617 3 года назад
@@chasingsunsets87 Canada would probably extradite
@ruthannjones5873
@ruthannjones5873 3 года назад
Hertz should have been criminally charged for failing to produce those records.
@crataegus125
@crataegus125 2 года назад
I am surprised that the Judge, having ordered them to produce the document, didn't fine them for contempt when they failed to do so, especially since it was so critical to the trial.
@barkere51
@barkere51 3 года назад
serving on a jury is one of the most wonderful things that can happen. A country that was founded on the idea we will select members of our society to hold that level of immense responsibility, it amazes me. I have never been called to serve, but if I was called I would go with bells on. To get the honor to serve society in a deep and meaningful way is nothing to shy away from.
@ALRIGHTYTHEN.
@ALRIGHTYTHEN. 3 года назад
Cable companies everywhere are saying "See, we're not THAT bad".
@ebr-fan1117
@ebr-fan1117 3 года назад
The people employed by Hertze should also be held accountable.
@TheLemzia
@TheLemzia 3 года назад
They recently declared Bankruptcy....I would put them under PERMANENTLY!!!! They would need a Loan from the Fed when I'm done with them!!!
@mpmansell
@mpmansell 3 года назад
So should the officials who ignored their duty in enforcing the subpoena and court orders and then jailing an innocent guy.
@oscarsusan3834
@oscarsusan3834 3 года назад
Hertz also
@johannesnoneoftheabove9957
@johannesnoneoftheabove9957 Год назад
On holding Hertz accountable; I am reminded of the scene from the movie Valkyrie where they attempt to arrest Goebbels. Do this with Hertz and make it stick. Hertz has wronged too many people with false charges and delays by their management.
@avariciousberserker3479
@avariciousberserker3479 3 года назад
Hertz is now on my personal black list.
@jimkirby9959
@jimkirby9959 3 года назад
How could it take you so long?
@molonlabe9602
@molonlabe9602 3 года назад
Be careful...the SJW snowflakes might call you out for using "black list".
@kevindahlberg7753
@kevindahlberg7753 3 года назад
Black list? So to you black is a bad thing? RACIST!
@xtbum3339
@xtbum3339 3 года назад
Hertz went bankrupt and is out of business now.
@avariciousberserker3479
@avariciousberserker3479 3 года назад
@@xtbum3339 Even better.
@Jay-ln1co
@Jay-ln1co 3 года назад
The moment you brought up the cop saying he'd deny getting it, I just thought about pulling out my phone, holding the subpoena up with him visible, and snapping a photo.
@zazuch
@zazuch 2 года назад
and this is why so many people who give summons do exactly that! But then again police have boldly lied about what happened knowing there was video/photo proof to show otherwise. This is why I have an issue with trusting police.
@klaatubob
@klaatubob 2 года назад
I'd love to see the judge throw the CEO and the entire legal department in jail for 5 years for contempt of court and obstruction of justice.
@roguecthulhu6002
@roguecthulhu6002 3 года назад
I want to know why Officers from Hertz didn't go to jail for contempt of court.
@proteus404
@proteus404 3 года назад
Because they have money.
@katiekane5247
@katiekane5247 3 года назад
@@proteus404 🎯 Corporations own every sector of society. I'm always amazed at how many folks haven't figured this out by now.
@PsRohrbaugh
@PsRohrbaugh 3 года назад
Also, corporations have a "revolving door" of officers. They're constantly getting transferred, promoted, hired by other companies, and so on - so they often only ever see the "big picture" of what's going on in their department. Not only is this part of the cause of these problems, but it can shield them from liability.
@Balibaliadashi
@Balibaliadashi 3 года назад
We tend to avoid locking up the wealthy in America unless public relations force the hands of prosecutors.
@Carahan
@Carahan 3 года назад
@@PsRohrbaugh See also PG&E for the Paradise fire. 83 counts of plead guilty for murder. But how do you imprison a corporation? So all they had to do was pay the maximum fine set by law for the murder at $3 million per murder. The executives who might have been responsible for pocketing the money instead of maintaining their lines? Nothing.
@syzygysyzygy8332
@syzygysyzygy8332 3 года назад
I'm Gold Plus member but they will never see another cent of my business.
@pulynanyalikibitz1301
@pulynanyalikibitz1301 3 года назад
Make sure they know why
@williegallagher2124
@williegallagher2124 3 года назад
Good for you respect from Ireland my friend
@machintelligence
@machintelligence 3 года назад
Better work fast. Someone might buy them out of bankruptcy.
@syzygysyzygy8332
@syzygysyzygy8332 3 года назад
@@machintelligence it's looking to be a cheap buy of a well known name for a corporate resurrection, don't be surprised if the name is in use for years ro come.
@chromolitho
@chromolitho 3 года назад
I now have a reason to choose someone other than Hertz.
@marcocastillo2754
@marcocastillo2754 3 года назад
"there are skeptics in my audience" yeah and the guy must have fired into the air and it landed 17 miles away. 😂🤣😁
@mototacularlife5267
@mototacularlife5267 3 года назад
How can they ignore court orders and not be held accountable
@sittingindetroit9204
@sittingindetroit9204 3 года назад
I would like to hear the justification from the court in allowing this to go forward with Hertz refusing to honor multiple subpoenas and/or warrants. What did the court do to Hertz?
@phillipsusi1791
@phillipsusi1791 3 года назад
Indeed.. normally judges will delay the case to wait for a subpoena and hold the person in jail for contempt if they refuse to comply with a subpoena.
@chuckthebull
@chuckthebull 3 года назад
corporations get special treatment.. you don't
@jenniferwhitewolf3784
@jenniferwhitewolf3784 3 года назад
The worst part is that once a false conviction has been nullified, like this, or an accused is proven not-guilty at trial, the police never, or rarely, go back to the case and try to find the real criminal. They 'get their accused' and if they wrong, they give up, leaving the criminal or killer go scott free.
@livinginvancouverbc2247
@livinginvancouverbc2247 3 года назад
You are right. In every false conviction that has been overturned story I never hear of any efforts or even a mention of looking for the actual perpetrator of the crime. And it's often a horrible crime.
@CptColumbo
@CptColumbo 3 года назад
This is one of the reasons I obsesively save my receipts.
@brylyth6029
@brylyth6029 2 года назад
What bothers me is that, had he went and loaned that car a couple hours later, even with a cooperitave Hertz, he wouldn't have an Alibi despite not having done it
@mef9327
@mef9327 3 года назад
Holy sh*t. Well, Hertz will never get my business again.
@tosifaliyev3554
@tosifaliyev3554 3 года назад
I believe they have filed bankruptcy :)
@mef9327
@mef9327 3 года назад
@@tosifaliyev3554 Unfortunately, it's Chapter 11. I think they can even continue operations during the proceedings and will be fully operational after the reorg/discharge. But, I guess it's better than nothing.
@tosifaliyev3554
@tosifaliyev3554 3 года назад
@@mef9327 I see. I wont give them even a penny from now on:)
@mjengel84
@mjengel84 3 года назад
It certainly is food for thought to wonder about his conviction and the evidence. Also, the man literally had to prove his innocence instead of the government proving his guilt.
@robertbelluchi1151
@robertbelluchi1151 3 года назад
Lots of documentaries that show this problem. Plus the 48 hours type of shows.
@clmhK5
@clmhK5 3 года назад
The way the system is the prosecution has burden of proof that he did it. But the defendant has to prove that he didn't do it.
@ronporinsky
@ronporinsky 3 года назад
@@clmhK5 the defendant does not have to prove that he didn't do it. The defendant has to find a way to refute the evidence that the prosecution is presenting. Guilty people with good lawyers and money do this all the time.
@hansbaeker9769
@hansbaeker9769 2 года назад
There was a case around here a few years ago with an even more perfect alibi. The defendant in a burglary case insisted that he was innocent, but he couldn't remember what he was doing on the day in question. During the trial someone said something that reminded me of where he was at the time. He told his lawyer and the lawyer talked to the judge and the prosecutor, and court was dismissed for the day. The next morning, the sheriff of a nearby county was in the courtroom along with his jail records. He was called to testify and to have his records admitted as evidence that the defendant was in his jail 80 miles away at the time of the burglary. Obviously, the case was dismissed.
@rdnowlin1206
@rdnowlin1206 3 года назад
Based on this story, I will never ever, ever never patronize Hertz for their service - total BOYCOTTED!!!
@George4943
@George4943 3 года назад
Regarding "weird results, this is one of them." My dad, the lawyer, said, "You do not go to court for justice, you go to court for a decision."
@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679
@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679 3 года назад
and if you are male, in family court, you go to walk back the amount of money you need to pay. If you are white, male, straight and Christian, and have overwhelming evidence, you aren't going to win, ever. Welcome to American Court System.
@pauldermilio3084
@pauldermilio3084 3 года назад
" Let Hertz put YOU in the defendant's seat"
@George4943
@George4943 3 года назад
@@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679 The judge in my divorce decree began this way: "The opinion of the Amicus's psychiatrist that the father is the more nurturing parent is only advisory...."
@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679
@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679 3 года назад
@@George4943 mine took an 8K custody evaluation that was over 200 pages long that said "don't take the kid from dad" and he threw it aside and said "that's nice".
@ebr-fan1117
@ebr-fan1117 3 года назад
Good for the plaintiff. Hopefully they have to pay million's.
@PsRohrbaugh
@PsRohrbaugh 3 года назад
Not millions, but billions. He lost 5 years of his ability to work - Hertz should lose 5 years of their annual revenue. That's between $8 BILLION and $9 BILLION per year. If corporations aren't given punishments that hurt, they will continue to ignore the little guy in the name of cutting costs and increasing profits.
@GordonWaiteJr
@GordonWaiteJr 3 года назад
@@PsRohrbaugh Really? Billions? What world do you live in? Even if they were fined (which they never will be) who would pay the fine? Their insurers and every customer of theirs in the future. Do you think the insurance company eats it? No, of course not. Everyone who buys insurance pays for it.
@StreetPeter
@StreetPeter 3 года назад
@@GordonWaiteJr well, if everyone pays for it. Everyone should blame Hertz.
@PsRohrbaugh
@PsRohrbaugh 3 года назад
@@GordonWaiteJr The idea would be to bankrupt Hertz, or have similar catastrophic effect on the "corporate person" of Hertz. They'll have to sell assets, close branches - the same way a person who receives a large judgment in a lawsuit might have to sell cars, maybe even their house. There HAVE to be consequences that affect them. If they can just pass the cost on to insurance and continue with business as usual, there's no incentive for them (or other companies) to do the right thing in the future. "it's not about money, it's about sending a message"
@ebr-fan1117
@ebr-fan1117 3 года назад
@@StreetPeter Everyone should blame the individual's who work for Hertz, who neglected or refused to get this man his alibi. Those were individual people who decided for themselves not to act. They should be held liable for that as well as the company for fostering that type of behavior.
@satguy
@satguy 3 года назад
And here's another example of investigators and prosecutors not doing their due diligence.
@closer02001
@closer02001 3 года назад
Wonderful that you are sharing this with your viewers. Hertz needs to suffer significant financial consequences since the law/authorities can't seem to hold corporations responsible AND ensure that they follow the law. How did this country get to this place?
@darnation8650
@darnation8650 3 года назад
Hertz just didn't want to help their customer. Such an easy request. Unbelievable.
@tallskinnygeek
@tallskinnygeek 3 года назад
My head canon is that Hertz had the murder victim killed, and wanted the wrong guy to go down for it so they get away with it.
@GeorgeWMays
@GeorgeWMays 3 года назад
The lesson, big companies can be villainous and cops can be lying SOBs.
@TheGuruStud
@TheGuruStud 3 года назад
wrong, they ARE
@sombojoe
@sombojoe 2 года назад
Love the “Puddles Pity Party” reference at the end. Saw him perform in his terrific ome man show in Orlando, and at the end he stood outside in the lobby and greeted every single fan that was waiting in line to say hello to him. Even more talented that the Colt Clark Family Collective!
@danoberste8146
@danoberste8146 3 года назад
Re: cop admitting intention to commit perjury... You'd have to resort to destroying the credibility of your own witness!!! Yikes, talk about a catch 22.
@williampeebles3218
@williampeebles3218 2 года назад
Makes you wonder how many times that officer has lied in official matters before just because it was convenient to do so.
@GARDENER42
@GARDENER42 2 года назад
Should have called the judge there & then & tell him in front of the cop what the cop just said.
@MusikCassette
@MusikCassette 2 года назад
@@GARDENER42 or just hand the phone to the cop (with the judges office on the line) telling him to do the resceduling himself.
@dougreimer2912
@dougreimer2912 3 года назад
Great story..It's supprising to hear that in some cases a subpoena can be ignored without any legal consequence and that a court action can proceed without that courts order being fulfilled. Why wasn't Hertz found in contempt.
@ryanmcnair3451
@ryanmcnair3451 3 года назад
Ouch, almost 5 years in prison for a crime you didn't commit, that hurts!
@xenaguy01
@xenaguy01 3 года назад
4:14 I always thought "procure" meant "buy." Turns out it actually means to "obtain." 6:00 The most likely reason no one could find the receipt is that no one told anyone to look.
@JedidiahStolzfus
@JedidiahStolzfus 3 года назад
If I were to ignore a subpoena or other court order my ass would be in jail.
@timm1583
@timm1583 3 года назад
And we are supposed to believe corporations are people right
@pauldermilio3084
@pauldermilio3084 3 года назад
"Let Hertz put YOU in the defendant's seat"
@machintelligence
@machintelligence 3 года назад
Let Hertz leave you in the slammer!
@philpatterson7085
@philpatterson7085 3 года назад
@@machintelligence Let Hertz go rot before I ever rent a car from them.
@keithe2150
@keithe2150 3 года назад
Not that it’s worth anything but by far the best comment here thanks
@pauldermilio3084
@pauldermilio3084 3 года назад
@@keithe2150 😊
@skaterlover1999
@skaterlover1999 2 года назад
Thank you sir, I love your content thus far!
@mattnesbitt6633
@mattnesbitt6633 3 года назад
So my question to you Steve, how did that cop make you feel when he blatantly told you his word is more important than yours in the eyes of the courts? Just curious if it changed how you felt about cops in general. It would have changed my mind to a certain degree, and even hearing it now does. If they’ll say that to an attorney’s face, what do you think they’ll do to us citizens?
@Jabberwockybird
@Jabberwockybird 2 года назад
Maybe Steve is smart enough not to generalize based on a single interaction
@christopherf8160
@christopherf8160 3 года назад
"That receipt may not prove his innocence." Even if the prosecuting attorney or jury doesn't agree, the defendant certainly has the right to present his defense.
@christopherf8160
@christopherf8160 3 года назад
@@BohemianGnostic I agree the prosecution must prove guilt. But the defendant has the right to present a defense. And in this case, the prosecution's evidence found him guilty.
@q.t.gamingfamily
@q.t.gamingfamily 3 года назад
Exactly so I'd have been reporting my attorney to the bar.
@q.t.gamingfamily
@q.t.gamingfamily 3 года назад
@@BohemianGnostic in THIS case the man was clearly innocent yet he was required to prove that he did NOT murder someone so what happened to his innocent until proven guilty? That has NEVER been the concept for us.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 3 года назад
@@christopherf8160 wrong, the court chose to ignore the reasonable doubt inferred by the inconclusive evidence as a third party witheld evidence they were ordered to release to the court. This is a gross misscarriage of justice at ALL levels.
@q.t.gamingfamily
@q.t.gamingfamily 3 года назад
@@Milesco If my attorney new for a fact that I did not commit this murder, knew for a fact that there was irrefutable proof and he dared not once to raise the objection in open court, yes, I'd report him for exactly that and those would be the words I'd use. Basically, he helped the states so the state had two lawyers to his none, it's no wonder he lost.
@RaineStudio
@RaineStudio 3 года назад
"Weird"? Try unjust, malicious, negligent, wrong.
@tomnoyb8301
@tomnoyb8301 2 года назад
Convicting innocents leads to civil-unrest. Hiding those improper convictions leads to more civil-unrest. Exposing corruption (such as this video) is the beginning of healing those wounds and despite the pain and anger of exposing injustice, actually helps reduce unrest. Keep up the good work.
@xpusostomos
@xpusostomos 3 года назад
If I was the judge I would have put out a warrant for the arrest of the CEO of hertz, way back near the beginning.
@davidcohen12345
@davidcohen12345 3 года назад
Why didn’t they get the records from the credit card company? Thank God he’s free!!!
@orakkus
@orakkus 3 года назад
Yeah, that is what I was thinking too. But, it might be that the credit card company only saved the regarding the time and vendor.. but maybe not the location of the actual transaction.
@Vykk_Draygo
@Vykk_Draygo 3 года назад
Anyone can use your credit card. Presumably Hertz has his identity on file as well. Have to show ID and proof of insurance to rent a car.
@someguy2948
@someguy2948 3 года назад
Credit card use does not show you were there. The receipt probably has his signature and a copy of his ID
@BigMike67
@BigMike67 3 года назад
Was thinking same thing . Credit card company . As stated. If anyone can use your credit card. But have to show ID also. How could someone else rent the car, if it wasnt their credit card ??
@FrancisBeanBlades
@FrancisBeanBlades 3 года назад
I suspect Hertz could have found it very quickly if he'd disputed the CC charge.
@cjohn8531
@cjohn8531 3 года назад
Does the airport not have security cameras in the area where he was
@CED99
@CED99 3 года назад
Or could his credit card company not report the date and time of the payment?
@cwalenta656
@cwalenta656 3 года назад
Indeed there would seem to be a triad of evidence that this would produce. The video, the Hertz receipt and some kind of credit card /debt card transaction. The failure to get one begets the question of the other two, or perhaps somebody was renting a car in his name? I dunno, I wasn't there...........it very well could be a travesty of justice. Hertz should obviously comply with the subpoena
@muddobber6863
@muddobber6863 3 года назад
Murder happened in Lansing.
@jamesahern9864
@jamesahern9864 3 года назад
The environment in Michigan is full of subhuman morons
@davisrs1
@davisrs1 3 года назад
Not sure they did, then!
@rustusandroid
@rustusandroid 3 года назад
Wow. Fair and speedy trial, huh. Even after the judge ordered the release, it took TEN months to comply.
@commoncents456
@commoncents456 3 года назад
I hope it hurts Hertz hard. Any company that would let an innocent person sit in jail should be severely inpacted. Maybe billions.
@greenvilleobserver9431
@greenvilleobserver9431 3 года назад
Makes me wonder what evidence they had to convict him to begin with.
@TheGuruStud
@TheGuruStud 3 года назад
nothing, the DA's fabricate their evidence and bribe "witnesses". DA's are bigger criminals than the ones in prison. Look at Kamala.
@BoxStudioExecutive
@BoxStudioExecutive Год назад
the evidence was that he was black
@MrCoxmic
@MrCoxmic 3 года назад
the jail will now sue for room and board for those years
@jimkirby9959
@jimkirby9959 3 года назад
And what about those victims the real perpetrator went on to harm?
@Gureiseion
@Gureiseion 3 года назад
I can imagine an alternate world where that "officer's word" vs "attorney's word" situation came down to whether or not said officer was wearing gloves on the day he took and passed back that subpoena.
@annasdad8008
@annasdad8008 2 года назад
Why haven’t the responsible people from Hertz been sent to prison for ignoring court orders?
@decur8
@decur8 3 года назад
I will never take a police officer at his word again.
@tomw8647
@tomw8647 3 года назад
you did before? Cops have always perjured themselves to meet 'metrics'.
@decur8
@decur8 3 года назад
@@tomw8647 let’s just say I was not as wise as I am today when I last sat on a jury and the only witness was a cop.
@davidbenner2289
@davidbenner2289 3 года назад
I have seen law officers lie in court. Fact! In my work I was feared because the one place I would never lie was was under oath in a court of law. I'm retired fire & rescue.
@jimkirby9959
@jimkirby9959 3 года назад
@@tomw8647 Especially when a fellow cop is charged. Extra specially when the dead man was Black.
@texhunter1820
@texhunter1820 3 года назад
The United States Supreme Court Justices said that cops are liars and you should not talk to them.
@brandonburnham822
@brandonburnham822 3 года назад
If you disobey a court order you get jail time, if a large company does it? Multiple chances and eventually no punishment it seems
@CED99
@CED99 3 года назад
Yes it's weird that a company can be a person when it suits them in the eyes of the law, but when it goes against them, they are just a nebulous entity...
@GeorgeVCohea-dw7ou
@GeorgeVCohea-dw7ou 3 года назад
Get records for everyone who was working in Hertz legal dept. at the time and turn this incident info over to every bar association that those people are members of. Let those people defend or throw the responsible parties under the bus. Hertz was mismanaged through and through and could not provide good customer service in one's time of need. I hope Hertz goes away forever!
@dabuya
@dabuya 3 года назад
I had an attorney friend in seminary who spoke of the frustrations of trying to get behind the wall of a corporation. This story fits what he described to me. Tragic!
@newsnowportangeles6220
@newsnowportangeles6220 3 года назад
Great vid!!! I can't believe that they couldn't come up with the receipt!!! I am glad that he is suing the car rental company!!!
@Thoringer
@Thoringer 3 года назад
"...there are sceptics in my audience. I just discovered this!" That made me laugh!
@jimkirby9959
@jimkirby9959 3 года назад
As we used to say in law school, "He was convicted by twelve persons too dumb to avoid jury duty."
@alansmith4734
@alansmith4734 3 года назад
Hertz filed for Bankruptcy! Good luck!
@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679
@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679 3 года назад
smells like "karma in action", but we know that they have been losing money for years.
@brianwest2775
@brianwest2775 3 года назад
Any of us could spend 60 years in jail if we can't prove where we were at a certain critical time. Today our phones could also place us at the scene of a crime that we are completely unaware of. I wonder what evidence made the jury believe that he was guilty.
@garyschreiber8776
@garyschreiber8776 3 года назад
I can vaguely remember a case that my father told me about. He's an Attorney in NYS, specializing in Tax Law. He was consulted in a case where he was called as an Expert Witness for the Defense. The client had pled guilty, and he was called in to detail how much the Defendant owed. He literally said, depending on how one interpreted the law (without stretching or breaking the truth, he could have proven everything from the Defendant owing over 1 MILLION DOLLARS, the the government owing the Defendant the same ($1m). Since the Defendant had pled guilty, he couldn't legitimately prove the latter (that would require a not-guilty plea), so he used the law to demonstrate that the Defendant owed a significantly lower amount then the government claimed, all by using the laws that the government had quoted... It's the vagueness of some laws, that make them subject to radical interpretations (poorly written laws), that really drives me nuts and explicitly drove me away from even considering the study of law...
@seanrhone5306
@seanrhone5306 3 года назад
Sounds like Hertz needs to be held accountable for their inaction.
@Xershade
@Xershade 3 года назад
What about his bank, the airport, or any and everyone else who saw him there? It seems off that a receipt was a make or break alibi when his own credit card company can produce the exact same date, time, amount, and location. In fact the receipt doesn't prove his alibi, ANYONE could be using his card.
@seanrhone5306
@seanrhone5306 3 года назад
@@Xershade While I agree the receipt does not prove his innocence the fact Hertz was ordered to produce the document and didn't.
@keithe2150
@keithe2150 3 года назад
@@Xershade I have worked in the hotel business for 40 years. Credit cards are pre-authorized when you arrive at the desk the same at a rental card counter and I do not believe that they hold these pre-authorizations. You do not pay for your hotel room or your rental car until it’s done and returned so the date that he checked in at the rental car counter has no impact on when the credit card would be processed. So this really doesn’t hold water for me even though it would make sense that it should. But I know for a fact and maybe you’ve seen it in the past that it’s pre-authorized I think in this case hertz can present the time the guest arrived at the rental car counter but the credit card transaction would just be the ending of the deal if that makes sense again I’m sorry I’m not criticizing your statement I’m just trying to explain how things could happen
@dennisberman4640
@dennisberman4640 3 года назад
Ben - Found ya. Behind Steve's head, just behind Tucker.
@b.arborio2404
@b.arborio2404 3 года назад
Please clue me in on what the "Ben" game is? Thanks
@rsmith3062
@rsmith3062 3 года назад
@@b.arborio2404 Watch the video, what's behind the tucker car model that could be called Ben? It's in every video. Good view at 9:44.
@RockitFX1
@RockitFX1 3 года назад
@@b.arborio2404 $100 bill that goes to anyone that can prove that SCOTUS has ruled that a driver's license is not needed to operate a motor vehicle. Or so I recall.
@yadayada752
@yadayada752 3 года назад
1st 🏆🤩🎈
@annasdad8008
@annasdad8008 2 года назад
That police officer you dealt with should have been fired and banned from ever working for the government in any capacity.
@dupplinmuir113
@dupplinmuir113 3 года назад
In my job I sometimes have to arrange hire-cars, so after this I'll never use Hertz again.
@lohphat
@lohphat 3 года назад
Why aren't CEO's held in contempt for their company's lack of obeying a subpoena?
@eaglewhitefeather0183
@eaglewhitefeather0183 3 года назад
Mornin Steve! Love seeing you on Vinwiki.
@MadMonk67
@MadMonk67 2 года назад
To paraphrase, never attribute to malice what could be explained by incompetence. As a former Hertz IT employee I can tell you that incompetence is most likely the reason they couldn't find the data they were asked for, at least at first. They have gone through a lot of personnel changes as a result of outsourcing much of their IT infrastructure and support. Replacing intelligent, competent, and very experienced IT personnel with people from overseas that couldn't care less about being good employees has consequences. Hertz should pay through the nose for this guy's loss of time and reputation
@comcastjohn
@comcastjohn 3 года назад
The Federal government has subpoenas ignored all of the time by federal employees, the house the senate, other agencies and no one is held accountable. Accountability is the biggest thing that our local, state and federal governments need! Until they are held accountable and I mean really accountable for their actions, all will continue to be lost.
@Tomasu82
@Tomasu82 3 года назад
Jesus. They shouldn't be able to convict a person if all it takes is a receipt to invalidate all other evidence in the case.
@nocalsteve
@nocalsteve 3 года назад
Think about what you just said.
@johnnybravo1399
@johnnybravo1399 3 года назад
I wonder why they didn't go after his credit card records, I have never been able to rent a car from Hertz without one.
@TheCheshireMadcat
@TheCheshireMadcat 3 года назад
The receipt would of had his signature and they require you to show ID when renting, these added actions would be proof he didn't have someone else using his card.
@anonnymouse2402
@anonnymouse2402 3 года назад
I cannot understand how he could be convicted without evidence of guilt. In most countries, you are considered innocent until proven guilty.
@norvelcurtis3542
@norvelcurtis3542 2 года назад
I ignored several court orders for jury duty until one specifically stated that since their records indicated several "failures to appear", a failure to appear on (specific date, time and place) " will result in a warrant for my arrest and a charge of contempt.". I didn't ignore that one. I was surprised to learn that they do keep track of a person's response to jury duty notices and they will enforce them if they go unanswered. When I informed my employer, he told me that he needed me at work and started to explain to me that nothing would happen from ignoring it. He had never seen the information on the back of the notices explaining the law for "employers" either. They don't have to pay employees that have jury duty, but they must allow the time off or be liable. Now this was an about jury duty and I was released by noon and never assigned to a jury. Ignoring a court order resulting in a man being convicted and going to jail might have someone serving time on their own case.
@danlewis6157
@danlewis6157 3 года назад
Steve, if you ever get another cop who says he won’t show up, pay the sheriffs office to serve him. If he’s in the sheriffs dept, have his supervisor serve him. Ya gotta be tricky!
@robertm3951
@robertm3951 3 года назад
He would probably say, "Serve it yourself." Cops do not pretend to love defense attorneys.
@mattf49006
@mattf49006 3 года назад
Hertz documents aside...what about his credit card billing records?...security camera footage?
@CED99
@CED99 3 года назад
Yes you would have though if his lawyer was good he would have explored these other avenues of enquiry
@yumatom
@yumatom 3 года назад
I doubt the credit card record would show a definitive time stamp like Herz could. The processing latency between the systems may be significant.
@RoseKindred
@RoseKindred 3 года назад
@@yumatom This. You are one of the few people I have seen that comment about latency. It could take hours to days for a payment to show. And when this case was + or - like 10 minutes, it matters.
@TheCheshireMadcat
@TheCheshireMadcat 3 года назад
The receipt would of had his signature and they require you to show ID when renting, these added actions would be proof he didn't have someone else using his card. Also most places don't keep camera footage to long, by the time the lawyer requested it, it might of been recorded over. I'm thinking older tech that doesn't hold more than a day or two and if nothing obvious happened on the day in question they didn't see a reason to back it up. I worked a a car dealer back then and they deleted everything on Sundays and only kept footage of incidents on the lot.
@mattf49006
@mattf49006 3 года назад
@@TheCheshireMadcat ...good points...i forgot about older data storage caps on video
@davidlinehat4657
@davidlinehat4657 3 года назад
Hi Steve! I'm surprised the airport didnt have surviellance cameras that could have corroborated his story. Thanks for the video!
@bobjones4427
@bobjones4427 3 года назад
This story just reminds me of a story from this area where I live about a man who was able to foreclose on a bank because the bank failed to give the man information he was seeking.
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 3 года назад
Why did the judge allow this trial to go to a jury. You clearly have a company hiding evidence that raised a shadow of doubt.
@admthrawnuru
@admthrawnuru 3 года назад
"Reasonable doubt" fyi. And yes, you're completely correct, though I'll point out that the possibility of the evidence existing should have sufficed as a reasonable doubt, it should have been incumbent on the DA to prove it did not exist. I'm wondering if there is more to this and Hertz said it didn't exist at some point, but it's not like juries don't often use preponderance of the evidence standards when they are supposed to use reasonable doubt standards... some courts seem to encourage it, in fact (which is why I basically never vote for a judge who was a former prosecutor or cop).
@TheCheshireMadcat
@TheCheshireMadcat 3 года назад
Our laws are not setup for justice but for putting butts in a cell. Once prisons because a business, we became product.
@jackovoltraids5937
@jackovoltraids5937 3 года назад
This video Hertz
@tomrussell2291
@tomrussell2291 3 года назад
a friend of mine who is a retired detective said that "eye witness" are some of the least reliable witnesses available. He ALWAYS would do what was necessary to verify the eye witnesses account. He ended our discussion with the comment "if you don't verify the eye witness, you are a lazy detective"
@jcota2003
@jcota2003 3 года назад
Steve, as a former officer, I actually got to serve a Bench Warrant, on an individual who skipped Jury Duty. My trainer and I were working a beat area that includes the city, district and federal district courts buildings. The district court called the station and requested an officer to come down to the courtroom and provided us with the bench warrant, and his location... (he didn't return after lunch), he was on the board of directors for a large corporation and was in a board meeting when we arrived. He was placed in handcuffs in the boardroom and transported directly before the court... The judge ripped him a new one because his excuse was that he had a board meeting, blah, blah blah, and he was an important person Yada, Yada, Yada... It really didn't go well for him. We were excused pretty quickly, so I don't know what happened... But the walls of the courthouse told us he was held in contempt for a few hours because he decided to get a huge attitude with the judge. I honestly wish I could have seen it. The guy was a massive entitled prick, and I almost thought we were going to have to fight him into cuffs because he didn't seem to understand he didn't have a choice.
@Upgradeo8
@Upgradeo8 3 года назад
Judge told a guy in a courtroom “You should always save your receipts, you’ll never know when you might need an alibi.” 👀
@stephenhunter70
@stephenhunter70 3 года назад
Here once you have been served that's it, you have been served. He could try to hand it back but he's been served! Even if he drops it on the ground!
@timmyhipbird7543
@timmyhipbird7543 2 года назад
years ago I served on jury duty and the people that were called that did not show up were issued warrants that day and the sheriffs were sent out to get them. the county clerk and the judges didn't f around... lot of potential jurors were held in contempt.
@hamrad645
@hamrad645 3 года назад
That's a despicable thing for a corporation to do. The accused man deserves anything he can get.
@hamrad645
@hamrad645 3 года назад
The only possible way he could have committed the crime is if he were sent by "transporter" (such as in Star Trek)! LOL!
@klong9269
@klong9269 3 года назад
Prosecutor should be ashamed. This prosecution should haunt him/her for the rest of his/her life.
@robertlee9395
@robertlee9395 3 года назад
He performed his job. He Prosecuted a man.
@klong9269
@klong9269 3 года назад
@@robertlee9395 By convincingly "proving" false accusations to a jury, preying on their gullibility. Just because you have the power to do evil doesn't mean you should exercise it.
@robertlee9395
@robertlee9395 3 года назад
@@klong9269 Steve has pointed out in the past there are Prosecutors that brag about having a 100% conviction rate. They are not concerned with such minor details of whether a defendant is guilty or innocent. They just want to get reelected by showing how effective they are.
@kieberg
@kieberg 3 года назад
You would think the credit card company could provide the same info....
@TheLoiteringKid
@TheLoiteringKid 3 года назад
For sure that card A was used at location B, at C time. Maybe not the itemized recite that hertz would have (which being a rental I believe would also have his state issued id linked to the transaction).
@TheCheshireMadcat
@TheCheshireMadcat 3 года назад
The receipt would of had his signature and they require you to show ID when renting, these added actions would be proof he didn't have someone else using his card.
@TheLoiteringKid
@TheLoiteringKid 3 года назад
Defendant produces the CC transaction receat(IE not the hertz one). The prosecutor will state that it could be someone else that used it. Now if the defendant's lawyer is doing his job, he will establish that the transaction report lines up with his client''s alibi under oath, and the prosecutor's claim that someone else could have made the transaction is an unsubstantiated speculation. Now as someone who occasionally sees a jury duty notice, I'd consider that a shift of the burden of proof back to the prosecutor where it always belongs to produce something more then a speculative "what if?" statement.
@TheCheshireMadcat
@TheCheshireMadcat 3 года назад
@@TheLoiteringKid In a fair just system, this is how it should work, but in a country that has for profit prisons, we have become product and the ways things work have changed a lot. I use to do IT for a town's police department and this would also cover the courts. I've seen and heard some things that scare me, even 8 years later. I would often have to sit in court while waiting for a open time to fix an issue with the judges computer. (nothing like porn, just really old software.) I also worked on computers for the prosecutor and of course the officers. I would hear things from them as well. Now mind you the officers in the department were great, the standards the town had for hiring was top notch. But they would still talk about cases when we were around, we were often like background noise, there but ignored.
@TheLoiteringKid
@TheLoiteringKid 3 года назад
@@TheCheshireMadcat A local county sheriff department had to get there own ISP contract after it was discovered one of the deputy's enjoyed, some flamboyant, fireman, explicit material on his in-cruiser computer, when the countie's Head IT asked his more competent assistant where was all the 27 gigs of the county's bandwidth was going. Head IT "so we have a 27 gig connection, and things seem slow can you tell me where its all going?" IT assistant "Sure, seems about 17 gig is going to the sheriffs department right now" Head It "realy?, can yo show me something high bandwidth they are accessing?" IT assistant "lets see, here is page cruiser 28 just accessed." PC "Quick plug the hose in!" Head It sighs, "Now I have to explain this at the next meeting." Yes, the system is rotten to the core at this point, the only light I see in it is the jury trial, even that they try to silence the rights of.
@rjnation5042
@rjnation5042 3 года назад
Holly crap, poor guy, I worked for an Avis agent we had to keep copies of every contract for 7yrs, Rj in Oz
@cmd4630
@cmd4630 3 года назад
The justice system failed him. The judge that sentenced the innocent man to jail along with the police department that pinned him for the murder should be sued as well!
@MikeMalkowski
@MikeMalkowski 3 года назад
The cop willing to lie and his assertion "who is he going to believe " isn't uncommon.
@KoJo-qh9od
@KoJo-qh9od 3 года назад
How do you know? Are you intimately involved with law enforcement or are you just going along with the current public perception?
@TatManToo57
@TatManToo57 3 года назад
happens more often when you live on this side of the tracks
@daleschultz6077
@daleschultz6077 Год назад
When they find the actual killer, five years of his sentence has already been served. The ceo of hertz should have to serve the same number of days in prison to send a message about honoring the courts requests.
@craigiefconcert6493
@craigiefconcert6493 2 года назад
Steve please give an update on this story when it’s resolved. I hope they have to pay him millions
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