Somehow the Prime Minister and ex-Chancellor had just one day of scrutiny at the Covid Inquiry. Despite the time constraints, he still got tied up in knots. Subscribe to our new podcast now, or you're a silly goose: linktr.ee/pubcast
I know how the biggest accounting (Arthur Andersen) has fallen just because they destroyed the evidence of their corruption. Sunak should be punished been on the basis that he deleted evidence. But he is a billionaire and nothing will happen to him
@@AOK342 Dom actually handpicked him. He couldn't control Sajid as Chancellor, so he forced him out and chose the unknown Sunak instead so he could bend him to his will.
Another Whitewashing just like the Chilcott Enquiry for Tony Blair. Look how well he's doing out of all that. This lot will be just the same. This is just another way of funneling taxpayers' money into all these pockets. We are just total fannies taken a loan of by these lying thieving charlatans at every single step and turn in the road. We need a complete change of the system.
Yes I agree with you 100% I thought at the time it would have made perfect sense to to close the airport's and the sea port's I think that would have been more practical. I wonder what's the point in the covid inquiry if no-one is going to be held accountable.
Tbf its an inquiry not a criminal trial, I think a lot of people are missing that point. It's a fact finding mission to find out if something went wrong and where and why so it can be prevented in the future. Ive got no love for these wankstains but being an irredeemable cunt or a gargantuan idiot are not criminal offences, no matter how grievous the consequences.
All its done is rubbed everyone's noses in the dirt,knowing they are not accountable for any of their crimes against humanity, just like Nuremberg did.
So every time he changed phone he backed up NOTHING for use on the next phone I take it? All devices should be seized and examined to prove this. Or did he conveniently choose to back up only the things he didn’t want to ‘lose’?
It's the schooling system and upbringing a lot of them were exposed to. Never apologise, never take accountability and never show empathy or kindness as that's seen as "weak". That, coupled with the ingrained belief that they're somehow better because they're richer, and their education was expensive is the perfect recipe for the confidence and arrogance that they can run governments and large organisations. That alleged pig head shagger and spam faced waste of skin David Cameron said he wanted to be PM as he'd "Be quite good at it". Priceless.
Right Jim, so basically we should have just put you in charge of the country and Covid would have disappeared over night and no one would have died. Do you mind if I refer to you as Jesus given your power.
@@M3UMHyeah exactly. What is Jim’s amazing plan? HOTEA actually was trying to get the country going…it’s bonkers they are trying to argue it was a bad idea. If anything it didn’t go far enough. If you felt you were vulnerable to go out to eat then why go out?
"I don't remember. I didn't write these e-mails.There was a whole month for people to object." I keep having flashbacks to the Watergate Investigation and Richard Nixon trying to defend himself.
Another expensive charade which will result in not even a slap on the wrist for those who were tasked with protecting our lives and came up so catastrophically short.
The true slap will be the further reputational damage that this inquiry has caused. We now know they were discussing allowing everyone to just die from the virus, they were scienticially and logically out of their depth and they aimed to save money and not lives despite advice. This inquiry is for gathering information rather than actually punishing them. I am hoping there is punishment to come.
Spot on.Johnson,Sunak,Hancock, Cummings,they should have been hauled into a high court in front of a judge and jury.This public enquiry will cost shedloads of money and in the end they’ll get away with it.Those that lost loved ones to Covid because of their incompetence and negligence will never get closure.
Would be nice if the committee could find ANYTHING that he was "Actively involved in" because from his testimony it sounds like he wasn't there at all for any of it and didn't speak to anyone or read ANY emails for the entirety of covid!
Under the Internet connection act, yes all WhatsApp messages are recorded by your vpn and ISP provider. The backups of the messages can be requested without requiring a warrant like the actual messages do. Any WhatsApp group would show when he left a group giving an indication of when the phone was reset. The IMEI number issuance is part of record so its change would be in logs.
@@NLPexperts in addition to that I wouldn't mind taking a bet that sunak personally visited nick clegg at META on one of his visits to California. In order to have him cover this up.
His opening statements, or rather omissions from his opening statements summed it up neatly for me. To paraphrase; "He's here so lessons can be learnt for the future (but definitely not to take responsibility for the past)." I guess he'll leave that to the people who due to his actions are dead. Those WhatsApps that I lost a case at the high court over handing them over? Oh I accidently still lost them. Nobody told me going to restaurants during a pandemic was a *BAD* idea, just like no one told me filming myself ridding around in a car without a seat belt was a bad idea. My focus was on protecting the poorest communities... despite the fact there's that film of me bragging about taking money away from poorer areas during my membership bid and giving it to those who are already too rich to notice it. At least he didn't mention his 5 pledges.
People died due to Covid…. Not HOTEA… If you felt vulnerable then it was pretty damn obvious you might not want to go to a restaurant with lots of people. It’s called common sense
I thought Little Rishi was a tech bro! And he says he can't retrieve his messages when he changed his phone?? Seriously I've changed my phone and never lost any messages and I'm definitely no techie! 😮
"Yes sir I forgot my homework that the dog ate that I didn't do because my dog died....sir" Sunak's excuses haven't improved since his private school day
@@nimzgaz7049 He constantly denies remembering any kind of decision making. Worst of all not being able to retrieve WhatsApps something most teenagers would do in minutes.Both Sunak and Johnson need to be prosecuted.
he doesn't recall some of it because most decision were made by former PM Boris. Rishi was to advise on economic and financial side. And regards to whatsapp, I have lost my messages recently when I got a new phone. His not a teenager. Now back to my original questions, when did he say it was everybodies fault?
The people at the enquiry must really be pissing themselves laughing when they go for a tea break at the shear stupidity of these politicians.Wonder how many have said "My dog has more brains than Bozo/Hancock/Sunak"
When the Police go to a wanted criminals home, getting the suspects phone in tact is even more important than arresting the suspect himself. This is because they can retrieve anything from that phone (and gain a full understanding of what has really gone on), then question the suspect and can compare what he says with what they have found on the phone. If they find out the suspect is lying, this can then be used as a `Provable lie` in court, in which case the suspect will be absolutely screwed over by the court. They can get those messages off their phones, but they are choosing not too. This is simply a show of strength from the establishment to show us its one rule for them and one rule for us. Parliamentary Privelage should not exist.
Surely a Chancellor at such a high ranking level should have been aware of the importance of safe keeping safe of contemporaneous records of all communication during such a critical period of national health crisis.
Just what this country needs a squirming PM. I can’t believe that he doesn’t know that when you get a new phone all the WhatsApp conversations are carried over from the cloud unless you change your number.
@@ashleystyles6888 it’s 100% in the public interest to get a warrant for that info for Cleggy to hand over the info. It could set a worrying precedent for Data and its use, but I think if it’s part of a Government Inquiry then it’s a good argument to use.
The man spent half his time wittering and the other half simply defending himself rather than giving clear simple answers to the questions. It must have been unbearable frustrating!!
So what can we learn from this.......politicians should be using an internal messaging app that records everything and not one that clearly has an issue with losing messages
We have an unelected Prime Minister who cannot tell the truth and closed ranks with Johnson and co to worm themselves out the hole! How disrspectful to all those who have suffered and those no longer with us!
Yes we believe every word you say i trust you so much 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 best thing about it this is costing us millions and they will walk away with there pockets full and thr British public will do nothing about it
Being in my eighties and not good with technology I was always under the impression that when you changed your mobile, you still used the same SIM Card for each mobile, which retains messages on it.
Not really. That was the case in the early days with SMS, but WhatsApp messages wouldn't fit on a SIM card. They're typically stored on the phone or the SD card (if you have one). They can be auto backed up to somewhere like Google drive, too. His argument that he lost the messages when he changed his phone is, sadly, feasible. It illustrates the need for these devices to be tightly controlled by the Civil Service.
Official messages should be on official phones which should have records of when they were changed. Private phones should have the info from the network. The inquiry is doing its job in telling the police they should be doing theirs.
I'm not a doctor, but I do have eyes and ears and am confidently prepared to diagnose Rishi Sunak as suffering from incipient dementia. I mean , to be able to speak with such fluency and recall of detail when wishing to take the credit for something, but then to meet a wall of darkness where fundamental errors of judgement need to be accounted for. FFS, he's had more coaching than the National Express.
I've sussed it out now: Police Officer: well Sir, your breath sample shows you are three times over the legal alcohol limit for driving. Driver: But Officer, I simply don't recall having a drink Police Officer: Sir, I've pulled you over outside that pub Driver: But Officer, I don't recall if I was in that pub before I got in the car. Police Officer: Sir, there is an empty whisky bottle in your lap Driver: But Officer, I can't recall how that bottle got there or how it became empty. Police Officer: Ok, you're free to go. ...... News bulletin: a drunk driver has killed a group of children by driving into them outside a pub, while the police watched on. The police officer has been suspended whilst the driver has been taken to the garage to buy another car. That's how it works now isn't it?
If he has changed his phone where are his old 1s? Where they not government property or even a national security risk what did he do with them swap them at cash converters for a new 1
What a bunch of criminals, conveniently losing all the important txt, if it was the public, I’m sure they would be retrieved or we would be in serious trouble
They should sit all these cabinet minsters in a mexican circle and put the questions to them again so when they distance themselves, lie and generally misdirect they face each over because they are all pointing the finger at each other with no acknowledgment of own responsibilities. And they are accountable for the ‘lost’ WhatsApp messages…. This is obviously a deliberate act agreed jointly to protect themselves… this is criminal.
I agree with one thing he said. If the scientists were so worried about the eat out to help out scheme, howcome they didnt tell him as soon as they knew? They are all just pointing fingers at each other.
It was presented as a fait accompli. They first heard about it when it was announced to the public. I can, just about, being in the building when that happened. Thinking "oh God no". Then "well, if I speak up about the dangers, Rishi or Boris or who-knows-who might leak my name to the public, get me raked over the coals by the Mail and then the right-wing broadsheets commentating on that, I lose my job, and am hated by half the country - but they'll still go ahead and do the scheme." "I'm not a power player here, I can't change the policy. It's been announced; millions of people are looking forward to it, and no-one seems to care, at all, how it might interact with the pandemic we happen to be slap-bang in the middle of. I can't make them care, I can't make them listen, I have to choose my battles every day to try to save what lives I can, and disappointing the wrong over-privileged 'good chap' and they'll politely show me the door and find someone slightly more compliant for the job."
another one losing the information on his phone. i would imagine that his number didn't changed several time. Wonder why we don't have such problems when we change phones?
The only purpose for this inquiry seems to have been to enable Johnson to kick the cam of accountability down the road. The only real question that needs answering is what’s on Rishi Sunak and Bozzer’s phones. Their excuses are along the lines of the dog eating my homework or driving to Barnard Castle to check my eyesight. Rishi’s a tech whiz and doesn’t know how to download stuff onto a new phone? Give us a break
So Sunak wasn't paying much attention to Whatsapps, emails or anyone's advice. That means all the economic decisions during the period are entirely his responsibility. He was also in a unique position to influence the PM. Just making notes for future reference.
These lawyers are incompetent. Even puttingvwords in Sunak's mouth. He knows it is a blatantnlie that WhatsApp messages were lost by changing phones. Admiting having further Bbq's at Downing Street shows the contempt these guys hold for the general public.
Rishi, we're talking about things *you wrote down*. You made a record, by your own admission - then you destroyed the record, also by your own admission. He thinks we're as thick as mince.
I absolutely did not participate. I work in social care and we were already insisting on staff who had to travel together in cars with each other and a person supported to be as far apart in the cars as possible PPE worn in full and all car windows down, and anyone caught not doing this was undergoing disciplinary action and some people were suspended from work or lost their jobs. There was no way eating out made any kind of sense to me on any level regardless of the financial incentivization by the Chancellor or PM.
Wow whats app for me moves all message across I have never lost any and I dont back up my messages and yet somehow in the Tory party both him and Borris have somehow lost messages... I mean seriously do they really think everyone is that thick?
