Best bits: Chris Whitty throws Rishi Sunak and Boris Johnson under the bus at Covid Inquiry 

Yep....integrity is in very short supply amongst MPs and ministers

That’s the point, even the experts hadn’t a clue what to do, they had no experience of anything like this in their professional lives, and most was over reaction and alarmingly wrong, and the government is more than politicians..Chris whitty was incredibly wishy washy, without any gravitas or imagination

If we make a serious error we pay heavily for it - will Whitless pay? Admitting to a crime does not make you less guilty. No excuses.

So what would you prefer... Nobody put themselves forward to try and do the right thing in case they get it wrong?? It was a far more complex issue than any of us could ever hope to imagine. Typical of some of the public.... Blame the government for doing nothing... Then blame the government for doing something they don't agree with.

No-one called Bozo gave him a knighthood.Will Twatty return it? Do me a favour!

@@prideofdurham4776Tory boy fan…back under the bridge.

@@Lynnefromlyntaking a bath under a waterfall of shit again, aren’t we Britannia?

So refreshing to gear a scientist talk. Honest about where he felt he could have done better, knowledgeable and reflective, clear about how policy was being set

I found it refreshing to hear someone say 'that was my fault' - when they weren't being accused of anything. Man made an error, owned it. You know for a fact that when Bojo and Richie take the stand it'll just be 'none of this was my fault!' 😭

Still too difficult for Boris to understand! He’s denser than cement!

@@markunger1098 You are totally right.

I'm sure he can talk at length about ancient greece which is all you need to pass yourself off as intelligent in certain elite circles. God what happened to Britain, even our posh lot are thicker than jam.

Whity should have explain it in Latin, then BJ may have taken him seriously

I wonder if they considered flashcards?

Is he f*k

There is something hugely refreshing in someone taking responsibility for their actions in 2023…

he's a scientist, its impossible to become one without a sufficient level of humility

@@xwize and honesty. You cannot lie to real things, only to people.

You mean the tory politicians don’t you ?

@@VirtuaDrummer how would his resignation have helped? By making a statement? The British press would've swept that under the rug with barely a peep & the majority would hardly notice. By remaining in post he could at least try to have some positive influence by persisting in trying to get something through those thick toff skulls to stop public policy being as bad as it might've otherwise been, there's no guarantee that his replacement would be any better.

Next time: “This is a new situation”

🤔 more like a criminal on trial thats had a lot of time to prepare his narrative.

Admitting to crime does not make you less guilty. Whitless' actions led to people dying. Whitless' manipulative reflections will not bring my relatives back to life.

That would be cowardly to walk away at the time when the country was in crisis. He stayed to do his best to steer the correct direction. I doubt anyone could have done any better with Boris and the number 10 team

@@ragdollkid1338 That back room photo of him leaning forward with fist clenched while Johnson, Cummings and Hancock look on with "wtf?" faces painted a picture.

@@VirtuaDrummer How would his resignation been a benefit? You know the media would've swept that under the rug with as little fanfare as they possibly could. In post he could potentially at least try to have some positive influence & get something through the thick toff skulls.

Whitty and Vallance did not even challenge Johnson’s appalling statement that he shook hands with virus sufferers - they merely both responded to it by by chorusing ‘wash your hands.’ When the public were being informed as to the latest developments in daily press conferences surely they had a duty to interrupt the person recently referred to as a ‘certified halfwit’ with a swift rebuttal.

Gota say he did look uncomfortable every night on t.v, like he didnt want to be there

Thankyou for being an Australian who said the words New Zealand without following them with an insult.

Nah just the money

I'm afraid the Tories really don't care about the ordinary people and are only concerned about the rich. They didn't give a toss about us and hoped we'd all die. They're still the same now Sunak is no better than Johnson and Truss. However Blowjob took no notice of the science and claimed the credit for the vaccinations when in reality it was the NHS who gave the vaccinations not Blowjob and his rotten crew. They never got anything right. They were far too slow to lock down, failed to close our borders and the apps weren't fit for purpose.

I was screaming this from the rooftops, but the idiots around me were lapping up all the shite the government were spouting. Getting the big calls right?!? Bollox indeed.

No.

Pleased that Johnson's attempt to minimise its impact didn't pay off. Imagine, if he was still prime minister what he would be saying to make the evidence appear silly, mistaken or irrelevant. I would rather that some heads rolled but as this is unlikely to happen, I shall be content with people who know their stuff and can reflect on their own behaviour with harsh honesty. It is dizzying as it is so rarely seen in public and for such extended periods.

Politicians were taking advice from people who didn’t have the knowledge in the first place..

Sage were not scientific it was full of nudge behavioral social science and the epidemiologist. All sadly left wing activists Susan mitchie and the idiot Neil Fergusion who historically has never ever got any previous of models re.otely correct. Look at data of numbers rarely difference to normal corona( cold). Year. Lockdown exacerbated condition. It a white wash nobsence inquiry.

This is genocide, wake up!!

Come the General Election they will be I hope.

@burger408 please press the edit button to make your comment coherent

What about holding the people to account for their idiocy? Since I started double checking the math I realized the general public is far too stupid to comprehend the fact that money doesn't exist...

True but at least the lunatics cant keep pretending "We got all the big call right" kind of shit, having the truth out in the open is beneficial

​@@Thor110 What?! The general public weren't making the rules and giving out advice. Also, currencies have existed for all of recorded history, whether it be coinage or goods. The oldest ever recording of human writing is a bill.

Yes litlle emgland meanwhile the Scots r still innovative. Remember do not get the 2 countries mixed up.

Legal sector and financial sector say no, we quite liked feudalism...

@@annemoncrieff3875 Exactly!

@@annemoncrieff3875 i dont think he mentioned scotland fella

School ceilings falling through must put extra pressure on a growing mind.

Perhaps they should have had it explained it in terms of how exponential growth in votes for labour would affect their chances of staying in power - they would have understood then

Johnson couldn't even get the idea of the case fatality rate of 0.04 (i.e. 1 in 25) and he was convinced that it meant 0.04% (i.e. 1 in 2500)

Exponential growth in the number of infected people is nonsense that assumes nobody has been exposed to the virus without being infected and that everyone is equally susceptible. In reality the most susceptible tend to be infected early, and as the number of infections rises, the proportion of people with immunity among the uninfected and recovered group increases and the infection rate slows down. The entire approach to Covid was disastrous authoritarianism and a reversal of everything that was known about how such a virus should be tackled - lockdown, masks, social distancing, furlough, school and shop closures, ventilation of patients, vaccination, vaccine mandates, vaccine passes, suppression of off-label prescribing, censorship of dissent and true information, the whole lot. Freedom was sacrificed to a minor respiratory infection with a 99+% survival rate. The real problem was not the virus but the overreaction to it. The way we should have dealt with Covid was the way we dealt with flu every winter before 2020. Search for "Not 14M Lives Saved, But Over 17M Dead from the mRNA COVID vax" on Substack.

RU-vid seems to be censoring. I wrote a comment explaining why exponential growth is a myth and the interventionist approach to dealing with the virus was wrong but you are not allowed to read it. I will try the first part again. Exponential growth in the number of infected people is nonsense that assumes nobody has been exposed to the virus without being infected and that everyone is equally susceptible. In reality the most susceptible tend to be infected early; as the number of infections rises the proportion of people with immunity among the uninfected and recovered group increases, the proportion of vulnerable uninfected people decreases, and the infection rate slows down.

It doesnt instil trust in the govt when it comes to economic matters does it?

Hardly "eat out to die out" the Covid bedwetteers rebranded it though was it? 🙄 The hospitality industry would be a thing of the past if it wasn't for Sunak's financial input

“Eat out to spread it about.” Is a more accurate description.

Clearly you wouldn't understand it if you think the modelling was wrong. If the politicians couldn't grasp exponential growth its unlikely the general public would understand 1% of the data SAGE produced

Opticians?

@@mck2021LOL politicians.

How many in SAGE had any epidemiology background ?

@jardinekelso SAGE isn't a fixed group. Depending on what the current issue is they chose the relevant experts for the task. So in a pandemic there would have been an appropriate mix of health and epidemiology experts

So, he could have 'phoned Dr Chetty (number on the internet) to compare Boris's approach with the approach of Dr Chetty in S Africa.....he treated each and every 'covid symptoms patient' immediately the patient came to him according to the severity of illness etc (not like lovely Boris...'go home, isolate, see how it goes, we don't know how to treat it..GO TO HOSPITAL IF IT GETS TOO BAD ETC ..A DANGEROUS APPROACH FOR SOME FOLK FOR FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS.). ALL PATIENTS RECOVERED WITHIN A WEEK, 100% SUCCESS, NO NEED FOR HOSPITALISATION/OXYGEN......AND THEREFORE WHEN ASKED WHAT HE THOUGHT OF COVID JABS, GAVE THE OBVIOUS ANSWER THAT HE DIDN'T NEED THEM!! When he contacted medical journals to publish his methods, they refused to publish!! FOLLOW THE MONEY, LUCRATIVE UNSAFE, rushed, FRAUDULENT JABS .....NOT TO MENTION REDICULOUS PCR TEST KITS ETC.....FACE MASKS......ETC . Now we have excess deaths of around 20% per annum in all age groups....YES, ALL AGE GROUPS....draw your own conclusions! See the many you tube interviews Dr Chetty has given......and here's a recent post re excess deaths.....I wonder if this post will be still up in the morning!! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zOeLIE7EAzM.html&ab_channel=TheJimmyDoreShow

Exactly, he could only advise

Except we now basically have Herd Immunity, which itself is a normal process and not unreasonable at all. Even the vaccine program is ultimately aimed at Herd Immunity. It's the natural end to any disease, barring eradication of the species involved. TOTAL immunity is in fact, the unreasonable aim which the government chose via OVER-vaccination. Children were never in any reasonable danger. Vaccinating them was criminal and only done because of this POLITICAL aversion to acknowledging Herd Immunity as legitimate. Politicians were just routinely weaponizing the term for political aims. And even seasoned Scientists were being misguided on this topic, giving all kinds of (eventually proven inaccurate) assumptions.

you have to weigh the severity against the likelihood its easy to be captain hindsight

Yes, but the thing is, most people don't think clearly. Most people are incapable of forecasting past the next few days, especially when they can't see it with their own eyes within their immediate vicinity. An early lockdown would have been ignored by more people, leading to later attempts at a lockdown being less effective.

There speaks someone who does understand some mathematics.

They mention further in the parts from yesterdays stuff that a quick early lockdown often promotes a massively severe second wave, which would have hit peak in winter. As well as some other significant reasoning. I personally think an early lockdown would have been better, but he made some good points

You still can't see the wood through the trees. Incredible ignorance.

They can't just put out measures that violate people's rights based on hypothetical risk they have to be absolutely sure the risk is going to be realised before interfering in people's liberties and businesses/livelihoods etc.

The virus was first spotted on or the day before New Years Eve, when I Chinese doctor note to colleagues in a whatsapp group that patients had been arriving at hospital displaying symptoms of SARS. Asia was very familiar with SARS, took it very seriously and locked down quickly, but we had not been exposed to SARS, so were somewhat lackadaisical in our response. I'm convinced that conservative governments in the Anglosphere sat on their hands precisely because they didn't want to impede the money machine, which almost certainly included their own share profits.

​@@ryanfraser167 99.8%+ survival rate you don't close down society for such a miniscule risk to the healthy working age population I don't give a fuck what anyone tries to argue to the contrary.

​@ryanfraser167 ,better to act earlier to minimise the damage than wait and say " oops, it has gone bad ".

@@anthony64632 it depends what you mean by "act", if it means violating people's rights and freedoms than there are obstacles to doing it.

I agree he was anything but authoritative in briefings …

probably because of the issues surrounding the political barriers he was witnessing and lack of leadership and organisation .. he's had time to review and process the choices he made

No more politicians tying his hands....

Maybe because it’s his own words as opposed to being told what to say in his “performances” , previously.

He was clearly constrained by government policy in the briefings and all the experts looked uncomfortable at times because they had to be careful not to answer questions in a way that wouldn't confuse

Simplistic solutions appeal to simple minds. 😊

@@carlharding5311 hey Carl did you take any vaccines?

@@filthydrainman6824 Ah vaccine conspiracy theory, that figures. You can get tin hats by post, you know. That way you can make sure you don’t fall off the edge of the earth while your out! 🤪

@@carlharding5311 so you did take the vaccines…. Well I might be simple, but your the silly sausage that took the bait. Its not a conspiracy theory, It’s a fact. And aaaaalllll the people now making up the figures for “excess deaths” probably regret not buying a tin foil hat 👍🏻 Bet you have a “iv been vaccinated” on your social media profile pic 🤣💉💉💉👍🏻 you champ!!

@@carlharding5311 it isn’t complicated really. PM’s and MP’s got richer in the years over COVID and vaccinations than any other year prior. MP’s and PM’s invested in companies that conveniently made more billionaires in those years than ever before. And muppets like you think it’s simply a conspiracy 💯💉💉 book yourself in for your next booster mate your well over due 👍🏻

How could keeping people apart be negative from a health perspective? And he’s not a financial or psychological expert so he can’t answer the question. Nobody can. It’s done. Get over it.

@@buzzinbites8962 mental health ? ..and the nation has not recovered in many areas , a lot of businesses already suffering from the knock on effects of inflation/austerity went to the wall. A stroll through the retail or commercial district of almost any town reveals that

@@bobjary9382 I said a health perspective. If you have a contagious pandemic then keeping people apart is quite obviously the correct response purely from a health point of view but I completely agree there’s a trade off and who knows where the net benefit actually lies.

Matt I think you have to ask another question namely " How many pensioner deaths are you prepared to tolerate ".

@buzzinbites8962 youre quite right you did say 'from a health perspective'

It probably is for a feckless, reckless baffoon who's education amounted to conjugating Latin verbs.

You are right, it was them

I think he’s given Whitty a really hard time unnecessarily. I liked that barrister but I lost respect for him today.

He is asking prepared questions for the enquiry and seeking clarification where he thinks it is needed. He is pushing Whitty who is being very professional and tactful in not calling the PM a liar or being blunt about the capabilities of the team in number 10

You're absolutely right!

if you've still got the shits 3 years later best see the doc mate

Nervous ? Knew he had to say what he thought he should say as "bosses" were watching

Where do you think the EU money came from? Which countries were net contributors to the EU?

Covering up * you mean..

​@@TonyToning-ne7uqhow are JOE covering anything up?

Av a day off love! i meant the clip@@terryhaircastle5702

And Van Tam has taken up a job at Moderna. These people are doing exactly what the tin foil hat brigade said they would.

You’re acting like 200 grand a year is insane for the chief medical officer of England… come on lad these are big boy jobs. He’s literally laid out his own mistakes here in an unprecedented situation where he was frankly dealing with idiots in government, who ultimately make the decisions. Not on him, on the government. Edit: He could go make half a million in private industry easily if it was about money 😂 look at what Vallance made at GSK

Very easy to explain just go, 2, 4, 16, 256 most people should grasp the concept of really really fast by then.

It is a public inquiry ... But yes. As it should be.

It is the system that the people of Great Britain prefer!

China builds whole cities with zero residents just to save face that their economy is stalling and unemployment is high. They are very trustworthy and our good friends

Matt the British have long relied on being an island for protection.

You , of course , don’t mean the independent scientists………….do you ?

He shouldn't need to pass the buck. The PM was in charge. The buck always stops with him.

Buck stops at Johnson

At one point he literally says “ I should have done this better” - he is owning his self assessed failings in a very public forum. Watch the bit about behavioural fatigue

@@jellslixcy6168 It was Johnson ignoring the experts and his arrogance that killed people, not Whitty conveying information in a less than perfect fashion.

@@buntyjoy1800yes I know- my comment was a reply to the original comment saying that everyone is passing the buck - Whitty isn’t passing the buck

Teeheeheehee…hahahaha….hilarious. Not.

as a man i didnt adhere to lockdown and led a normal life for the 2 + years great britian was illegally imprisoned. i feel sorry for sheep who lost 2+ years of there lifes for NOTHING.

@@MontyCantsin5Ah. The overwhelming, cynical confidence of someone not trying to heighten the mood criticizing someone who does. What a fun person you must be.

@@LeoRikimaruheighten the mood or lighten the mood? I think you mean lighten? Heightening the mood with a sexual innuendo joke would be hard. Like I was after eating out.

@@LeoRikimaru: I'm sorry, that made no sense. Try again.

I know the right answer. We locked down too late.

Why would he not be? He is just doing his job with no political bias.

​@@1inchPunchBowlAhem he has shares in the Gates Foundation

@@adamknight7041 Jesus Christ man. Honestly, scientists just cannot win. If they align with government, they're part of "the elite", but when one has a neutral opinion, oh no, can't listen to him because "he's part of the globalists". Not everything is a conspiracy jfc

@@adamknight7041 How can you have shares in a private charitable foundation?

​@@adamknight7041and?