It sounds like the u8n is better in almost everything but some highlights, and once the u9n comes out, it will be a clean sweep. We must try to get FOMO to use his elite/advanced contacts with Hisense to find out when that tv is coming.
Hey, Fomo. Greetings from Houston. I currently have a Samsung 85' QN90A. I want something bigger and better for a dark control room. I love OLED, but the G4 83' or 98' are too expensive. The Hisense 100' U8K is back to $3,000, and the 98' Sony X90L went down to $5,000. Is it worth the $2,000 difference? I also have a Sony OLED 77' X80J, so I know what Sony brings to the table in regards to processing and upscaling low content, but $2,000 is a lot. What would you recommend for size and price at these sizes ( 98-100). I don't do any gaming. I Just do streaming, OTA, and 4k UHD blu-ray movies. I'd appreciate any input. Thanks
FOMO the question is.. If you had to choose between the TCL and the U8N for your personal use which one would it be? Let's say that on Prime Day the U8N is $999 and the TCL $1199 which one would you purchase? 🤔
I picked up two weeks ago the 85 inch U8N, replacing a 77 inch Sony OLED A80J - So. I decided with the Hisense and got it for $1999. I was looking at the new TCLQM8 for 2024, but learned that the QD technology is not present in the 85 inch. So that was disappointing to me. Paris for the U8N over the OLED with my room application are bright HDR, low glare, and size for my application. Drawbacks are not as great at night, movies or very dark rooms, but still very acceptable. And not great at viewing angle, however, that’s not an issue for my set up an application.
Man, I can't calibrate my 85 for nothing. It's been a week and I'm thing of taking it back. It sucks because I was looking forward to this purchase but now I feel like I should have got the c4.
I just pulled the trigger on an A80CL 65" from Costco with a 5 year warranty for 1499. I know the LGs get a little brighter but I think the A80 will be plenty bright, it has an ATSC 3.0 tuner, and better processing. We use the antenna for local channels, all the majors are already 3.0 here and ABC & Fox both look substantially better in 1080P vs the 720 you get with 1.0. I could've done the C3 for $100 less but the tuner and superior audio alone were worth the spend. Now for the kiddie/surveillance I'm likely headed for the U7N. Thanks for so many fine & informative videos.
@@stopthefomo 77" S90C still 2200 euros in my country, though i would spend that little extra for the OLED easily. Our prices include vat though, something to keep in mind.
I own the 85", U8N and it's an excellent TV, it's not as good as an OLED but it's not far off and the Hisense is so much cheaper. As a budget TV it punches above it's class. either buy this Hisense or TCL, QM8 and you will be happy. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket go buy an OLED but for the rest of us on a smaller budget Hisense or TCL are perfect.
hey good for u. LED not as OLED is myth tho. Our Research 🔬 phd scientist professor De bunked OLED in class explain tV watching / movie/ oled vs LED. The BLACK does NOT exist. ANYTHIGN we see black are --processed by our BRAIN 🧠 when we see deep grey. True black is black hole in space lol. If u look at the Wall day time n sun set or evening . What color? Grey ? Yellow? Or white? Also true white doesnt exist. Brain tells u what is what. If u see grey wall think its WHITE because your BRAIN 🧠 tells u that the Grey is White. Lol. AS LONG LED so bright n rich in color BRAIN will- tell ANYTHING Near black as Black, n the brightness will Make medium grey even look more Black than WOLED or Dim QD-OLED like S90C s90D. A bright summer /spring morning ALWAYS look SIGNIFICANTLY more Clear than cloudy day or winter blue day. We walk in condo lobby of hi rise condo. Or hotel lobby, eveyrthing looks CLEAN 🧼 because its Bright n vibrant, NOT dim. It Matters the Brighness over Black. Brightness makes anything grey look Dark grey, anythign dark grey look Black. AS long as Color Density is VERY high, they look HIGH Contrast. WOLED look DIM - LOW color volume they are ultimate tinty. D Brighter of a TV, 📺 the High Density /color volume MAtters to make TV 3D 🥬 🐦🔥🍄🟫. VS 🧩 🌸🍉 tinty. S95C n U8N Qm8 have 3X color Density of G2 G3 G4. n they are Both Significantly brighter than S90C A90K Bravia 8, C2 C3 C4 S90D. lots image too dim 🧟♀️🧞🧞♀️ your 85” U8n will even look MUCH better than G4 for a lot of imagses since 85” so large all image stretched OUT. 💗 even that heart on 85” stretched out on 85” will look better on LED simply 3X color Density/color volume of U8N
@@christian6808 I took science . 🧬 our PhD scientist 🧑🔬 actually explained eyes 👀, image , tv watching . There is NO black black . No utter black unless in sealed BUNK . All dark grey sky any black couch , black coat ,🧥. Car 🚗 tire 🛞 r grey. But our brain 🧠 filter -- process it as BLACK . The same way any time our BRAIN 🧠 tells us the grey/beige indoor wall is white wall when there is NO true white . Because sun ☀️ white is always yellow tone. We do NOT need true Black , or Accurate color . We need warmth n brightness 🔆 :):) for eyes to recognize on Retina 👁️ nerve cells to see brightness n color to see things 3D. U8N U8K UX U9N will have extreme density of Color 3-X of Woled (including G3 G4) . So Mini LED can even look more CRISP on 77” n Larger panels . Being brighter n Utter Dense color volume alone ;):) 🥬 vs 🧩 :)🫶🏻
Honestly, I think the U9N will be more like the Bravia 9 because Hisense is taking Sony's approach to dimming zone control. At best its specular highlights will match the B9 but fall behind the QM8, however, its shadow detail and color volume/luminance should handily beat the U8N. In order to match QM851G specular highlights, U9N will have to deal with excessive brightness which is OK if they have a mode for it aka "Bright HDR Theater" which would be awesome!.
Oh dude they can turn it down at night . Like iPhone u turn it down at night take 5 seconds . Once u go to brighter phone (day time especially) u can not go back to dim . Just more clear 😊
I had the 55 u8n and definitely took it back before 30 days. I had black light issues, Blooming and halo, the back light would light up areas of the screen that should be dark . The youtube viewing was awful on dark RU-vid videos the dolby vision was bad bad with back lighting it was like a grey haze over the whole screen. Apparently the 55 is different from the 65.. I'd advise against the 55 u8n I ended up with the qm8 and its a way better tv... the u8n was so bad I went to my vizio p Quantum to check the difference watching the same content and the vizio was better than the 55 u8n and that's saying something sorry I'm just sharing my experience. Maybe the 65 is better but the 55 was a bust i even updated the firmware from hisense and the tv was still broken
@@jeffreyrodriguez9009 it’s out of box extremely bright. Don’t freak out . Just turn down black level , turn down brightness a bit , turn UP -“Color “ (density ) setting(most critical but ppl tend to skip ) , it will look 3D
The 75" version has an ADS Pro IPS panel which should have much better viewing angles than the VA panel across the other sizes. Not OLED level but a marked improvement.
The. U won’t like LG then . All LG LEDs n WOLEDs r green for decade even on vivid/standard mode . that Hisense Green is becusee in Theater /FMM mode has color filter .u can shed it in settings turn those off .
@@stopthefomosince I got your attention. I have one last question. I’m still torn between the U8N and an OLED. I’m trying to stay under $2,000 and that would more than likely land me with a 65” OLED. Any recommendations on an OLED around this price or go with the bigger U8N? I was initially set on the 65” S90D. But after all my research started to lean towards the bigger 75” U8N.
Are people constantly changing settings based on the content they watch? That would be so tedious and frustrating. Or do people find one setting and leave it alone?
I change all the time. Honeslty first time its confusing n like overwhelming. After like 3-4 weeks. U can do it with eyes shut. So fast. 💨 since all the U8 all tweak kinda similar so its like quite easy once u get 1 Hisense, d rest all similar. Kinda like Making pasta. Once u make 1 pasta all the time, u do NOT even measure just dump salt pepper butter etc. Every show takes like 5 seconds. NO joke, Once u have one u can NOT go back to “lack of setting” type of things.
This tv is about to be released here in Brazil. I want the 75" for the price. And this video was realeased in time, because I found out yesrerday that the 75" uses ips panel. Is that true? If so, ips panek usually has worst picture comparing to va panel. So is way worst comparing with the u8n va panel?
ADS pro has 2X contrast Ratio of ADS! It’s not IPS it’s not ADS.😊 it’s more premium than VA in my opinion . I have seen it (75” U8K ! Mind blown ) . I am getting 1.
Hey, I'm also from Brazil, and I'm really looking forward to the 75U8N, but the recent discount of the TCL 75C755 at R$7200 in 10x almost made me pull the trigger. Do you have any idea of when Hisense will launch the 75U8N here? Also, Rtings said they bought the 75U8N, I am waiting for their review.
@@leogradus_5186 nao, mano. Alguns caras dizem q é pra alum momento em agosto. Espero q ai caso nao apareca promocao fortr como a tcl c755, na black frirday aparece. Cara, a tcl c755 75" ja ta 6800/6900 no site magazine luiza é q ela é bem inferior a u8n e a tcl c855. Por tudo q vi a c855 é ate superior a u8n, mas a u8n tbm e top pelo preco. E como a c855 nao vem em 75" aqui no brasil infelizmente, q querem forcar a c755, vou dar preferencia. Mas como brasil e sempre fora da curva, se a u8n nao vier em promocao num preco bom q imagino uns 7/8, a c755 é uma opcao, pra mim. Agora, é esperar.
@@Yoga_Tv_buying thank you. Im hapoy to know that. Here in Brazil hisense will just release the u8n on 75" or bigger. And i can afford the 75" not bigger and i was thinking i was going to take something very inferior.
Do you have an analog audio setup? Might be a better normal reference than using another tv like the G4 (like using a vinyl record, or raw recorded audio or something)
55" Hisense 55U8N 672 VA 65" Hisense 65U8N 1,600 VA 75" Hisense 75U8N 2,000 ADS Pro 85" Hisense 85U8N 1,296 VA 100" Hisense 100U8N 1,620 VA Thats how many dimming zones dimming zones from Rtings. I would avoid the 55 inch version but above that its incredible.
@@CarsandCats From what I've read the response time of ADS Pro panels are better than VA panels so the motion should be handled better in theory. But given I have neither version of these TVs I can't assure you anything.
At this stage of the game, it's absolutely pointless to count dimming zones - it's more important to review how well those zones do their job: (1) tone mapping specular highlights (2) black levels (3) blooming/ghosting/halo. The whole point of local dimming is to improve performance of 1, 2, 3.
I have a script that runs on all my computers and streaming the blocks all NBA and NFL - ads, games, everything - will this keep the TV from working since they are a major sponsor of the hideous NBA?
The Dolby vision was so bad on the 85 that I returned it….it made grain go crazy on Batman v Superman and the crow, unwatchable. Also local channels looked worse then my old Samsung ? Nice otherwise, very bright , good motion
Hey just trying to help. Yes QN90C has amazing ADS-PRO panels. 75” Hisnsense 2023 U8K has the Exact ADS-PRO screen provided by same supplier as QN90C. Except Hisense U8KQ model will have better blooming control and significant better sound(with subwoofer n 4 extra speakers). YES. Samsung QN90C is great tv, I have seen it in person, significant better than X90L X93L Bravia7. Just with Hisense its yearly compared to QN95 Level. SO there might be some miss information here that ppl have confirmation bias.U8N is ABSOLUTELY better panel no doubt about it, U8N has Color Volume matching Samsung S95C. It’s Color Density/Volume, n incky black makes the tv looks like QD-OLED. It’s 😮🎉
You are officially banned from talking about the Bravia 9 until you spend time with the 85. Saw the B9 85 and the 77 A95L at Best Buy today and it's a true war.
@rkeith7766 except that is meaningless to me because I don't have ultrawide seating. I spent a part of my hour testing viewing angles and it's HEAVILY overrated. There's no spot in where you would normally watch TV that the view is substantially impaired. Have you seen one or are you just going off what other people have said?
Im curious about these since they r top tier quality and affordable, but i cannot get over any of these mini led’s being va panels. I just feel like va is whack as hell with weird ghosting, bad viewing angles, and most importantly a shitty, unpleasing white point compared to qd oled and quantum dot IPS. IPS feels more elegant. I just got the Innocn 32” mini led and it’s fantastic. I feel like it’s on the same level as my s95b as far as hdr is concerned.
Well u have not had the Those for of VA panels once u go VA it’s very Hard to go back to IPS. The ADS-PRO resolve the angle issue tho. 180 degree viewing angle 📐, 2X contrast of ADS , 600hz screen refresh rate . 75” U8N U7N , Then U9N , UX :) 😊
@@Yoga_Tv_buying i wanna see ads-pro and i’m hoping that once the dimming zones start climbing to the tens of thousands, blooming with ips won’t be as much of an issue. I’m sure the contrast for va will still be better at that point. Maybe i should just get every kind of display. Oled is the most elegant, but it most definitely doesn’t provide the same level of punch in bright scenes. So off angle viewing of ads-pro does better with blooming cause this Innocn display is have def struggles with that. What VA would u recommend? I have 55” qd oled, 32” qd oled, and 32” ips mini led.
Hey, Fomo. Greetings from Houston. I currently have a Samsung 85' QN90A. I want something bigger and better for a dark control room. I love OLED, but the G4 83' or 98' are too expensive. The Hisense 100' U8K is back to $3,000, and the 98' Sony X90L went down to $5,000. Is it worth the $2,000 difference? I also have a Sony OLED 77' X80J, so I know what Sony brings to the table in regards to processing and upscaling low content, but $2,000 is a lot. What would you recommend for size and price at these sizes ( 98-100). I don't do any gaming. I Just do streaming, OTA, and 4k UHD blu-ray movies. I'd appreciate any input. Thanks@@stopthefomo
@@stopthefomo Thanks I will be doing 100 inch U8K videos soon when I come back from vacation. Im debating on coming to the tv shootout too or ces this upcoming year. I would like to have a discussion with all the manufacturers to explain to them that the home theater enthusiasts like myself want 100 inch sets at a reasonable price. For this reason alone I purchased the 100 inch U8K for $2999. I have exclusive content coming soon on it.
Since you asked, I’m avoiding the U8N for the VRR bug RTINGs mentioned. It’s the same bug the U8K had that Hisense never bothered to address. Also, I’m very leery of Hisense support. Awful experience dealing with them last year. And then there’s the matter of buggy firmware updates lately according to recent forum posts. I’m just scared off of Hisense at this point.
That's good to hear. Thanks. U8K owners seem to be complaining about a recent update more than U8N owners this time around. Heck, even Sony burned X900H owners more than once with a questionable update. No brand is 100% safe.
I want to make a correction here; black bars are not lifted, they are as inky as OLED, zero light bleed into the black bars ever. The caveat is you must turn black level to -1 which makes almost zero difference as far as black crush. Virtually all high zone FLAD panels crushed blacks a little bit, it's inherent to the tech. The U8N is no exception but it is no worse than any of its competitors. Black level on this TV is OLED level - you will see zero difference.
U9N has…ADS-PRO (2 X contrast ratio of ADS) . It has the MOST Glossy (more glossy than OLED) Wet Black /red/green/ yellow paint type of look . I have seen pics from EU(they call it UX 65” 85”). I would AIM for U9N if i have Bravia9 budget.
Great review buddy! I tried keeping up with your settings changes but it all went a bit too quick for me at times. Lol 🎉 However, the 65” U8N has a VA panel and the 75” has the ads panel I believe. How much different do you think the 75/85” will be compared? 🎉 I have the Q90C and can tell there is a big deference with the Q90D having different panels. Also, love that you standardized your 65” size reviews, but imo the reason I would even consider the Hisense or tcl is specifically because their 75/85/98” sizes are more affordable. 🎉. I’d prefer to get the best quality 65” if restricted to that size. 🎉
@@dat1ytcomment262RTINGs is smart enough this year to review the 75” ADS Pro model separately from the VA model. That review will release in a month or so. Stay tuned.
Pick my 65 inch up on Saturday from BB. I returned last years U8K due to awful grey uniformity. Made sports unwatchable for me. How is the uniformity on yours?
@Yoga_Tv_buying Is that for the QM851G, or the U8N? Because I'm trying to compare dimming zones for both models of those sizes. TCL claims 5000 dimming zones, but I want to know if it is for only the 85-inch+ models, or also the 75-inch.
I rarely recommend these TVs for gaming only because firmware updates change things (good or bad LOL) and it depends on the game you play as well as your needs. It's fine in 4K60 HDR but true 120 VRR is always a crapshoot IMO.
I have my gaming PC connected via hdmi 2.1 to my new 85 inch U8N and game at 120Hz, 10 bit color, full RGB and HDR no problem. I did notice that when the TV is in gaming mode, it lowers the local dimming a bit so the contrast is not as high as watching movies but its really just trying to nitpick... Overall, looks great and I had no bugs with the VRR using my Nvidia RTX 4080.
X90L is def more crusty cuz it has 42000:1 contrast , U8N is 290000:1. X95L is 200000:1 . U8N will look very much QD-Oled . Becusee Its color Volum3/Density match Samsung S95C. X90L color volume is about X95K level , spend 8.5/10 (Rtings) d brighter the tv d Denser Color Volume make it more 3D/clean pop . 🥬 vs 🧩
@@aliazimi91 Lets put Apple Mac Pro with M4 chip with screen n blooming low contrast to see how that will upscale. Color accuracy is NOT important. U go outside of house, morning, sunset , evening u will see Grass/wall diff color. Whatever u are being TOLD SET this “this way” n U will see “THIS way” wont happen. Yes it is nice to have standard. But U will NOT watch 100% of your content with creator’s intent because simply eveyr house hold environment is diff, even same show watched diff time of day will be seen diff. Science babe. Told by PHD professor about TV watching. Actually “HOW our eyes see color”. SONY LEDS have Cool tone. Human biology 🧬 reacts to warm tone. During revolution, sun ☀️, grass, fruits, 🍎 animals., human skin all warm tone. We need to see MORE warm color to survive. A Warm tone spring morning always look MORE CLEAR than Cloudy day cool tone. Lack of Warmth , will cause Image/detail loss in your EYES. The Standard in Movie industry is nice to have, NOT most comfort in TV watching . Pale color or cool tone is never best. Im trying to help ppl like u. Thats sccience stuff taught in school no different what they teach in London Cambridge.
@@aliazimi91 Based on last year's Rtings measurements and reviews by Caleb from Digital Trends, I went with the X90L because I'm NOT willing to give up on color quality for brightness alone, especially for $1,300 for a 65-inch to $2,000 for an 85-inch. For now, the X90L still seems to excel in so many areas of performance at once, especially for its similar price. Only in the event Rtings's measurements suggest the TCL 2024 QM851G has equal pre-calibration color accuracy and PQ EOTF tracking would I EVER consider seeing if anyone would buy my X90L locally and replace it with the 2024 QM8 for that extra brightness. But until those numbers are in, don't rule out the X90L just yet.
My only goal is to save someone, anyone from the horrors that come along with owning a Hisense TV. For the full version of my story and many similar stories. Just Google ‘Hisense problems’ or ‘I hate Hisense’. Their TVs are horrible and unreliable. I believe they have the worst reliability rating of all major manufacturers. And the Customer Service is just as bad. So if you have any issues, even if under warranty, good luck getting them to address it. As I write this I’m ‘Hard Reseting’ my TV probably for the 12th or more time. That’s back to factory settings. It will not fix any issues, for more than a minute. So please take my / our advice and just don’t purchase a Hisense TV. No matter how good it looks or how cheap it is.
@@Yoga_Tv_buying 75U6H. They eventually sent someone out. They replaced the main board and that seemed to fix the issues. I still don’t plan to buy another Hisense.
Buying a Hisense is risky. Reports of models failing after a few years or with glitches and other problems. Maybe wait a few years for Hisense to get their QA under control.
That’s perception. Consumers r biased (they train us in Markrting , tier n pricing ). For example a few yr ago Apple so skechy that purposely send Firmware update to speed up kill battery in their flagship IPhone before new phone launch . Ppl paid $1480 n phone battery die fast , phone got slow . How skechy is that !!! 😮 why did ppl just forget about it ? Cuz ppl decided they don’t care , they still see it as “Good product “ . 😮 BUT if ppl have Large dogs , I anyone inform them :” small Yorkshire terrier (yorkie ) has Intellegence of Human 3 yr old child . Ranked smartest in small/ toy breed dog. Becusee they hunt vermins which r already smart/fast , they have to play strategy. Significantly higher EQ/IQ than Siberian Husky n number of large breeds survive in speed n endurance “ 😮 most Ppl have LARGE dogs that think small dogs r stupid or happy 😮will get OFFENDED 😅. Especially ppl own Husky because its GORGEOUS looks , wolf like face n Masculine features . “Yo u know all dogs r intelligent , Husky is average to lower side “ that will make them --- reject the TRuth , n seek ppl tell Them what they want to hear ! Human r 100% biased , if they feel towards the brand they will shred or bank/pile anything they want to hear , block anything don’t fit their narrative. 😊 what u hear Hisense fills your Narritive , n it creates an opinion which make us belive its truth. I have 2 U8 , 2.8 3.8 yr in $2500 USD later . Best money spent . My buddy’s parents have 2 BMW bought brand new , both have issues 😮brand new have to go back to shop. My friends swear will never buy BMW , kept telling me he hates BMWs cuz not good car in quality n road handling . I could NOT register lol at time listening 😮😂😅 but “I WISH I have 1 “
@@boom78 reports from where ???? Like others ppl Bad mouthing getting “reports from others bad mouthing “ from “reports from others bad nothing “….. when legit there 10% reports r legit . N the half of rest are known that Bestbuy order Employees calling HIseense bad quality breakdown . N d rest reach confirmation bias n just passing along as if it’s fact.
You will see more bad reports in mid range tvs vs OLEDs due to the amount of people buying mid range tvs , OLED is expensive for the average consumer so theirs less reports , OLEDs fail just as much , just don't see a bunch of bad reviews cause sales are lower as most of the average people are not buying thme
I don't trust the components inside Hisense or TCL, they are cheaper for a reason, if you change TV's every few years it doesn't really matter but I'd rather buy a high end model and keep it for at least 5 years.
@@thesecondcoming4425 There is something in English called “ We are How we Speak.” 🗣️ What do u describe your self with yr last comment ?? NO comment lol. 😝 i am sure u think U surely Sound like Adult lol.
Honestly playing the audio in the video is a waste of time. 90 percent of us are listening through a phone and RU-vid audio compression makes it totally pointless
@@stopthefomo Actually many of us will still listen on our home theatre speakers if there's an audio test section that warrants that. So keep doing what you're doing Fomo!
❤ X90L(contrast)- 42000:1 , U8N =290000:1. X95L- 200000:1 . ❤U8N will look very much QD-Oled . Becusee Its Color Volum3/Density match Samsung S95C. d brighter the tv d Denser Color Volume make it more contrast/3D/clean pop . 🥬 vs 🧩
