People like booze. Now. But there was a time alcohol was a matter of debate and was made illegal. Here is why it failed. Music by No Sustain • Awaiting Wednesday (El... Written and Edited by Tyler Franklin
Supreme Solaire Opium was the first banned drug (1870s-1890s iirc) and it was intended to be anti-Chinese more than anti-drug. Other drugs were slowly banned over the years.
Unbearable Pain Drugs are a hot issue in general- the best solutions are either ban drugs outright, or set up a safe and secure treatment infrastructure which would includes public rehab services. And very few people want to pay for rehab with their taxes T_T Not to mention, many drugs have more damaging effects from repeated use, including painful withdrawal symptoms. It's not like alcohol where you can take an aspirin and recover from a hangover. I'm generally against drug use, while legalizing drugs would be interesting, I wouldn't trust myself or others to just take an addictive substance in moderation all the time.
Some effects of Prohibition: Skid-marks on the Constitution. Giving jazz a big boost. Giving organized crime a big boost. Letting women into bars. Discrediting Prohibition.
@@rokkfel4999 the OP wasnt saying it was a problem. Just a byproudct of prohibition. Had prohibition not happened. Jazz might not have gotten as big as it did. And women would have had to wait longer to get into bars.
Prohibitionists: "We've banned alcohol to increase sobriety and to crack down on the crime lords!" Crime Lords: "Thanks! Our sales of illegal alcohol from this year alone have outstripped all previous sales from the past ten years combined! We practically have more guns and influence than the National Guard now!" Prohibitionists: "Wait, that wasn't what was supposed to happen..." Crime Lords: "Ha ha! Life's funny that way! Here, let me buy you a drink."
I fairness to the Prohibitionists, part of the reason the Crime Lords were so successful is because they were supplying alcohol to the local police forces...
@Jeremy Backman If you had the same experience I did, you noticed that you could get cocaine or heroin or whatever at any age with an unknown purity and unknown additives. In relation to opiates/opioids, the only real danger is the fact that they're cut with dangerous drugs or additives and the purity is unknown. It's been shown someone can inject heroin for decades without any damage to the mind or body if it's pure diamorphine aka heroin. The only risk would come from the potential of improper syringe use. Not saying it's the perfect solution, unfortunately I don't see a perfect solution existing but all we have to go on is information from places like Portugal that have decriminalized all drugs or other European countries that decriminalized all drugs or give out pharmaceutical grade heroin to addicts to inject. They've managed to drastically reduce overdose rates, the spread of HIV/AIDS and hepatitis c, use amongst minors, theft and other property crimes and reduce addiction rates in general. That information tells me that the only solution is to stop treating it as a criminal issue. Unfortunately I have yet to see laws do anything except make drugs more dangerous, if they made hard drugs almost impossible or impossible to access, I'd be on board but that's just not the case. Anybody with $10 can get a little bag of dope, crack or meth if they know where to look. Hell, there's open air drug markets all over the country, especially on the east coast! Where there's a demand, someone will always risk everything to supply it, problem is they don't care about the user and only care about the money...
@Jeremy Backman Well in my experience from over 10 years ago, my first time being offered heroin was at the age of 15 and the town was nowhere near what someone could call a big city.
The difference is that one is addictive and it almost forces people to use it, the other is not that addictive,many people sell furniture and even sometimes kill people just to get their hands on drugs,thats why drugs cant be liberated,people would just do the same as if it was banned
+SpektralJo All prohibited drugs are highly addivtive(Besides marjuana that is just slightly addictive,a little more than cigarret),alchol isnt addictive,no one feels like achol is an living condition
True Story: Up until 2008, gun ownership was banned in D.C. However, in the case _District of Columbia v. Heller,_ the Supreme Court ruled that this law was unconstitutional, as it blatantly violated the 2nd Amendment (which, yes, is still relevant.) If the Supreme Court ruled that outlawing guns was illegal in one city, I'd love to see Clinton outlaw them nationwide and see how that goes. (Still, better Clinton than Trump. At least she has experience.)
+bencatzilla I do not know what universe you call home buddy, but people are not going around committing mass murder for shits and giggles. Vietnam was a war no one wanted and the massacres were a mistake that should not be pinned on all veterans from that time. Go back to your bridge troll.
Imagine being stuck in a WWI trench for 5 years, you dodged every bullet, avoided getting trench foot, and came home considered a hero, only to find your favorite bar got shut down. If I were this guy, I'd be Al Capone's bf.
Mine too @Waxee . Charlie Crabtree was his name. I never got to know em, but he got out of the war, everyone I know that knew him said he was a solid guy, but he made moonshine for a small town in the middle of nowhere. Feds came by and the folks told him, he posted up in the trees and shot one in the head. Was on the fringes of society, so no more came out for him.
My father used to tell me stories about how he and his father would cook and run whiskey all over Mississippi, back in the 50s and 60s. It seemed odd to me, because prohibition had ended years before. It wasn't until this video that I learned about Mississippi's prohibition laws lasting until 1966. Thanks, Cody! Keep up the good work!
Mississippi still has "blue laws" restricting the sale of "Jesus Juice." Most counties have some ordinance or three restricting the sale of alcohol. It's mostly "no Devil's Nectar on the Holy Day!" but there are variations. Carve outs for "resort towns" and differing restrictions for liquor stores/bars/restaurants/gas stations/grocery stores. Stores can sell beer and tobacco together but you can't sell hard liquor and smokes... which means most liquor stores have a "beer and tobacco" store run by the same owners directly next door, but they are technically separate shops. Because that makes sweet baby Jesus less offended somehow? Fucking Baptists. Hell, it was barely 5 years ago my county passed a law letting us buy beer after noon on a Sunday. You know, after you get out of church, or at least should be you godless heathen! Liquor stores must remain closed and hard liquor still can't be sold at all on Sundays... but just being able to buy a beer at the gas station on a Sunday afternoon is a new thing in recent memory for my county of Mississippi. It really is more righteous to buy your liquor on a Saturday night, so that you don't have to drive anywhere to get your booze on Sunday! Just as God intended.
I have read sources that check what you're saying. It's a university paper called "That 70s Show". The harshness of Wisconsin's authorities is clearly depicted in such paper.
I think you missed a big one- the National Firearms Act of 1934 was passed in response to gang violence related to booze. It had HUGE implications for that unique aspect of American law, history, and culture.
postmachine Noooo that'd be RU-vid suicide, it's such a recent and controversial issue even saying something with a . quadrillionth of a fraction of bias will get autistic screeching and mass unsubs. I think it's fucking stupid and it's objectively done nothing but bad and even still a shitload of people believe it's a-ok
Fun fact: the prohibition movement was also very strong here in New Zealand. In fact, the primary goal of Kate Shepard and the Women's Christian Temperance Union was to ban alcohol. Though they are now remembered for achieving women's suffrage- making NZ the first country in the world to give women the right to vote, this was actually just a tactic intended to enable Prohibition. In fact a majority of Kiwis voted for Prohibition in 3 separate referenda, but they fell just shy of the 2/3rds majority needed to make it law.
My Father turned me off alcohol. He was an "out of control Alcoholic" going through multiple packs a week. Put my mother, my siblings and I through Absolute Hell. I''ve also had alot of bad experiences with drunks and Ultimately it's caused me to develop a prejudice. I tend to have less sympathy for co-workers who show up late because they were "out drinking" the night before. How they are constantly complaining how they don't feel good/are tired because of it. I feel like it isn't anyone elses fault and they should just shut up. My brother started drinking when he came of age despite what happened when we were younger and I've never understood why. It honestly feels like a betrayal. I understand that it's something I gotta live with but, I don't think I'll ever fully be able to get over the anger I feel towards it. I don't go around bashing people for Drinking. But it bothers me when I see it/hear about it. 😔
Ah, finally someone who knows the pain of a torn home from drugs, my dad was a drinker, smoker, I don't even want to know what else he's done, and he was very abusive, my uncle and several of my cousins have died from drug abuse, and I am very aggravated when I see beer ads because I know the pain people go through.
This actually reminds me of a conversation I had some weeks ago wherein I learned that most of the world does not regulate alcohol with strict classes like America does. For example, spirits are 35% or higher alcohol content, which ends up prohibiting the sale of certain form of alcohol that fall outside these mandated parameters despite the fact that wine is still made with grapes, and vodka with potatoes. It seems likely to me that these draconian and irrelevant regulations are a result of the culture and societal mindset that prohibition left behind.
Yup. And that's why it's so terrible. Not only does it deny people the basic right to put what they want into their own bodies, but it also creates drug lords, which fuel immense crime and violence. If all drugs were at least decriminalized, crime would plummet as the fall of drug gangs would happen almost immediately. There'd be no more justification for high drug costs and thus their entire enterprise would either have to go legitimate, with all the legal protections involved; or dissipate. Very few legal mandates cause more violence than the war on drugs. You'd think the days of Prohibition would have taught us a thing or two, but apparently not. Doomed to repeat our mistakes.
UnknownXV If drugs is legalized and not prohibited crimes will not plummet because drugs destroyed the brain and thus make humans behave more like an animal therefore innocent and law abiding citizen will get rape and killed.
Ian Ang They already are. If you decriminalize drugs, their use drops. Look at Portugal for evidence. If they aren't illegal, they become cheaper, thus require less crime to fuel that addiction, they're safer in of themselves because of legitimate business selling it; and drug gangs would dissipate, reducing violent crime and homicide by huge margins.
i think you are talking long term abuse of substance. everything in moderation. besides if someone is dumb enough to use that much where it could do damage like that they most likely would have died from an overdose. any substance that affects our dopamine production has the risk of causing a person to be over dependent on it, things like alcohol, pain killers even chocolate can be harmful. what needs to be studied it how to spot and treat someone who is more likely to be an addict. i would rather have drugs legalized than have drug like items show up and be used as a substitute with no regulation ie Bath salts.
UnknownXV I respectfully disagree with you sir, legalizing makes it more deadly and will make human life shorter because drugs are made to be addictive and this legalizebdrug business will be easily destroyed, lose of jobs because they don't do it well therfore no job, no money to buy drugs, no drugs equals robbery of the business and finally robbery sometimes result to homicide. I have concluded that if drug is legalize human will be reduce to a mere animals due to the fact that human being is particularly curious and will always taste what is new but legal, drugs is addictive as what I've said, and the addicts will want to taste more and more, destroying whats left of their brain.
Extra Credits history of prohibition: law trying to stop or discourage use of alcohol was passed, riot like drunken mob, law repealed, drink in victory! law trying to ban alcohol, riot, law passes anyway, create underground business, cause violence because of that businesses, law repealed, get hammered in victory!
US soldiers: fight in Europe in WW1, unlimited alcohol for winning war and praised as heroes. Comes home to USA: Local bars all shut down, alcohol illegal everywhere, crippling trench warfare PTSD with no coping mechanisms.
Shawn Mallon that would be an alternate world without pottery or liquid storage vessels. Seems alcohol has been around as long as carbohydrates have been stored and spoiled in those containers. Yeast spores have been around for longer than humans. I guess some Native American tribes didn't traditionally ferment alcohol, so I would suppose society would be like America before Europeans arrived (hunter/gatherer style).
+sharkfinbite The real question is, are guns illegal? No, and they will probably never be. there are teenagers getting arrested for having marijuana on them and people that are addicted to opiates are treated like animals and get arrested instead of getting the help they need, and we also have drug lords who are getting billions of dollars because the drugs are illegal. We spend billions of dollars on this drug war and nothing has been accomplished. The alcohol prohibition was a lot more similar to the current drug war
There's no war on guns. Some people think they should be banned outright, but most people calling for gun control want just that--gun CONTROL. They don't want sociopaths, terrorists, and gangsters to be able to get guns on the fly. There are some gun control laws in place, but they still allow for dangerous people to easily access them. There's nobody going to your house, arresting you, and throwing you in prison for having a completely legal gun, but there IS someone doing that if you have a little bit of pot. It's a false equivalency to say that prohibition is more like gun control than the war on drugs.
Took people 10 years to realize alcohol prohibition was a bad idea. It's been 60 years since weed was made illegal. Shows how stupid society has truly become.
Whenever he talks about America he always makes sure to not put the sunglasses on unless he is talking about WWII or later. If you look at his other videos I think you will see a similar trend
Always had a bit of a conflicting view towards the sunglasses. On the one hand, they're unique and make the US look like a terrorist destroying machine, stopping at nothing if it was for a good cause. On the other hand, it makes the US look emotionless and ignorant.
@@khalilyepez5938 Note that goodness is in quotation marks. When someone places quotation marks around a singular word within a sentence it's usually meant as sarcasm.
Without prohibition, I actually might not exist. My great-Grandfathers family sold moonshine, and some of the consequences of that and the sort of romantic 'forbidden aspect to that is part of what made my great-grandmother fall for him. It also led to him joining the army and later converting to Christianity and becoming a pastor, which definitely greatly improved that part of the family's social status(they we're from a couple different American Indian tribes). Also a story that side of family loved to tell is that they made moonshine so strong it could power cars(albeit it was hard to control and was like 80% certain to explode/catch on fire). So prohibition has always really interested me.
I love how we look back on prohibition as some crazy law that never worked. Meanwhile the exact same thing is happening with weed and other non harmful drugs right now
Right lol well the government cant control and get most the money if its not illegal tho, thats the only real reason government wants it because its obvious that prohibition does nothing to help the people and in most cases does the opposite
ThePooper3000 that's a very good description but it's important to remember how the world watched and laughed as a young nation who defeated the world's strongest power struggled to put down a small rebellion. This caused addition of a federal military, not state run militias in the new us constitution
@@bcnkng I agree with you. It's a shame prohibition is partisan driven. Generally the left goes after firearms and the right, drugs. Divide and conquer.
That is the reason the war on drugs failed so miserably too. Apparently, people don't care for a government telling them what they can't put in their bodies, even if its poison.
Herpeslip Herpeslip The irony of gun control or rumours of that there is going to be is that people will go buy lots of guns, skyrocketing the sales of gun conpanies.
"What are you here for?" "I'm a serial killer. What about you?" "Oh, me? I accidentally stabbed a guy while drunk and now he's part of the Anti-Saloon League." *scoots away*
***** You are getting things mixed. The vietnamese were fighting since the end of japanese occupation for independence against the french searching any help they could find (yes, even japanese companys which still havent surrenderd) but as they were turned down by the west they turned to the only ones providing them supplies, the commuists. Ho Chi Minh was not anti american at that point. As the independence was declared, the communists continued the fight on trying to subdue the entirety of the country, just like in China or Korea. The CIA action in '56 was sadly very unfortunate in many points such as him being catholic.
FortuneZero To mention a comment above you said, the war was lost. The Viet Cong were so sneaky and careful if we continued to fight we'd only be continuing to run in circles.
Prohibition in my neighbourhood (The Junction, Toronto) lasted until the 80's and Jesus it screwed up the whole place, crime was big, and restaurant's were screwed. Thankfully they repealed it.
The consumption of alcohol was not illegal. It was just the transportation, manufacturing, and sale of alcohol that was prohibited under the 18th amendment. So, if your church had barrels of wine stashed before the law was passed, you'd be fine.
Thanks for the video, Cody. As someone who is opposed to alcohol because of others under the influence of it, I've wondered what things would be like when it was illegal and if it could still be illegal if handled differently. As you pointed out though, the ban did more harm than good. Hopefully people will just learn to be responsible.
here in brazil, counter strike was banned for 3 years (2008-2011) after that ban, the popularity of that game skyrocket and in 2012 (after the ban) it sold legally 10 million units oficialy. its unknown how many did piracy just to play that game.
Yes, and then the state can invest in education about the risks and how to safely use various drugs. Many people get hurt, addicted or even Die because they dont know what theyre doing or when they get sold crap disguised as something else. With state surveillance over the drug trade their would be a 100% genuine product everytime you buy something and you can adjust your safety profile according to this. Drugs dont do harm to people, stupid people do harm to themselves. The substance doesnt matter.
Roter Gutmensch. I think schools should teach more about the harmfulness of addictive substances. I also think selling drugs should be illegal and should get people convicted of it a prison sentense. And what comes to using drugs, I think it shouldn't be legal but should still be decriminalized because in in a lot of cases prison only makes things worse for the drug users. Everyone who gets caught using drugs should be offered free treatment for the addiction.
Jami Rahkonen I was taught PLENTY about the harmfulness of illegal substances in school. Hell, my sixth-grade health class (an extension of PE) spent an entire month on talking about drugs and addictive substances. It’s just that people think it’s “cool” to rebel and go against their superiors. And the terrible anti-drug posters don’t help.
Bookhead714. Yea. Some "Remember kids, drugs are bad"-posters aren't really effective. But I know what might be. Showing some good traumatizing material from real life. Like when I was in middle school, our class was shown a picture of smoker's lungs that had been removed after the person's death for scientific research and educational purposes. If I ever had thoughts of starting smoking, they were long gone after that. I will always remember the disgusting looking, disfigured, black blobs that used to be someone's lungs. One of my classmates even stopped smoking some later in the same year or a year after that. I think the photo was at least part of the reason.
Alright, you failed to mention just how epidemic the alcohol problem was in the late 1800s. We have not returned to the absolute permeation of drunkenness and cheap booze that proliferated the last part of the 19th century. I don’t think prohibition was the right response but the general populace was desperate. I have heard that as many as 80% of males were drinking excessively each day. In studying the old west I discovered that the Saloon, what the ASL was protesting, was a serious problem as each one was trying to outdo the other with cheaper and cheaper alcohol with stranger kicker ingredients. They would add opioids or snake venom or other dangerous ingredients to their unique drink and sell it for 10-25¢. Talking about Prohibition without discussing the seriousness of the alcohol problem of that time period is irresponsible journalism and playing on people’s preconceived notions of how culture works instead of giving them the complex nature of how major things happen. It is convenient to blame one thing, like religion or other social institution instead of discussing all the factors involved. Why was the nation so open to the prohibition of alcohol. The opioid crisis we are facing right now is probably the first time America has faced something of similar seriousness since the alcohol problems of the late 1800s and it really hasn’t yet reached the epidemic proportions of that time.
Good point. And yes, in those days, without all the pesky government regulations we have now, you never knew what was in your booze. Tobacco juice, which is supposed to be spat out if you chew tobacco, was sometimes added to barroom brews. There was so much drinking in those days that a book about that period is called "The alcoholic republic."
Daniel: like how some folks in Appalachia now drink Mountain dew because of lack of untoxified water. But neither is a real solution, both dehydrate you further, giving you only a brief illusion of quenched thirst. Granted, sailors have used a small amount of alcohol to keep water safe, figuring out the right amount via trial and error. But just drinking booze instead of water won't keep you alive for long. Small amounts of flat beer, maybe, for a while.
Drinking helped laborers live without wanting to put a bullet in their skulls. It was common for wives to serve liquor to their husbands during work, breaks and after work. All work and no play makes Herpeslip...
herpes: well, for a while. But after a while, heavy drinking makes you more depressed Of course it contributed to domestic violence and the abuse and/or neglect of children, and of work, which is why women were so against it. And then it messes up your health, making you unable to work, and, finally, kills you just as dead as if you had put a bullet in your brain.
Depends on the religion For most Protestants and the Catholics, alcohol is fine. Even Jesus drank wine and check out Ireland with a lot of Catholics. Puritans and Evangelicals are very hostile to alcohol for some theological reason. They have grape juice for wine lol. America is the only Christian nation to prohibit the sell of alcohol and production.
Religious people, let's leave the church's influence and create a new country where religion in government isn't allowed Their descendants: Let's use religious reasoning to create laws in that same government
It’s one of the reasons Welch’s grape juice is a thing. You had a leftover vineyards with grape crops that needed to be used. In addition some parishioners refrain even from ceremonial wine so grape juice is used as a subsitute.
@Fluffynator How do you validate such a claim? If you're going to correlate statistics that don't show causality or cherry-pick a few Eurocentric western countries where gun ownership is heavily restricted but have low homicide rates (see earlier claim about how correlation =/= causation), don't even bother.
@Fluffynator I'm just trying to save you time and not use evidence that I can easily debunk... but if we're going that route, then so be it. No - as hard as it is for you to believe, access to guns really doesn't *cause* violent crime. Poor social systems, an unbalanced economic model in favor of the rich, and an abundance of people with an abundance conflicting cultures are far more likely to have an impact on that. Why? Because as many places you can cite that restrict gun ownership but enjoy a low murder rate, I can just as easily cherry-pick communities within the US with extremely loose gun laws but also low homicide rates. There's really no defining argument you can make using statistics that show without any sort of doubt that guns increase violent crime since there are an even amount of examples, even within the first world, that do and don't - and all within the "first world". Go outside of the first world and such an argument only degrades, especially comparing countries with the highest populations and their degree of gun restriction on civilians. And that's not even getting into the statistical frequency of defensive gun use in violent crimes or how gun control advocates often push for laws that have little to no impact on actual gun violence, such as assault weapons bans and magazine capacity limits.
My great grandfather used to brew beer in his basement. All his friends met up at Friday to play poker while drinking. Even the local sheriff showed up to play.
